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Posted: 7/8/2019 11:21:03 PM EDT
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Manufacturers cannot make a 2-door SUV profitable. Jeep only keeps the 2 doors because of "muh heritage". As a die hard for guy, you think Ford is going to reuse parts from the F series and pull it off? LOL Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More Gladiators are selling right now than Broncos will sell. As a die hard for guy, you think Ford is going to reuse parts from the F series and pull it off? LOL When I last talked to a salesman, he told me that he couldn't give away a 2 door truck. That was before the Gladiator came out. Why in the hell would Jeep even bother with the 2 door style for the Gladiator? |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 12:38:48 AM EDT
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As of, (I think) 2016, 2 doors were selling just under 30% of the JK sales. I expect that's dropped a tiny bit. When I last talked to a salesman, he told me that he couldn't give away a 2 door truck. That was before the Gladiator came out. Why in the hell would Jeep even bother with the 2 door style for the Gladiator? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More Gladiators are selling right now than Broncos will sell. As a die hard for guy, you think Ford is going to reuse parts from the F series and pull it off? LOL When I last talked to a salesman, he told me that he couldn't give away a 2 door truck. That was before the Gladiator came out. Why in the hell would Jeep even bother with the 2 door style for the Gladiator? |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 12:41:43 AM EDT
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I can’t remember the exact words used but one of the bigwigs for this project basically said the two doors accounted for nothing and it wasn’t even worth considering for them. 
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Posted: 7/9/2019 7:23:36 AM EDT
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We went full circle from Jeep Gladiator to Astro Van. Everyone stop swinging your dicks and admit that you’ve never driven a Rubicon off-road or up a hill that would make your boyfriend scream, therefore your vehicle expertise from articles and your comparisons to the Ranger, Tacoma, and Astro can are null and void. The Gladiator is so far from being a Tacoma or Ranger or Astro can. My F150 is more like a Raptor than a Gladiator is similar to any other kid sized truck on the market. Your Tacoma TRD 4x4 SLE Z71 FX4 doesn’t come close in capability. Read all the articles you want, compare cup holders, sound systems, and steering wheel stitch patterns, then go drive the two. They have the same number of wheels and doors, therefore they are "roughly comparable". Just like a Corvette Z06 and a Toyota FRS are "roughly comparable". |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 7:26:01 AM EDT
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WSJ had an article about SUVs and Crossovers being down in general yesterday with lots more vehicles with higher times on lot than usual.
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Posted: 7/9/2019 11:27:04 AM EDT
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We went full circle from Jeep Gladiator to Astro Van. Everyone stop swinging your dicks and admit that you’ve never driven a Rubicon off-road or up a hill that would make your boyfriend scream, therefore your vehicle expertise from articles and your comparisons to the Ranger, Tacoma, and Astro can are null and void. The Gladiator is so far from being a Tacoma or Ranger or Astro can. My F150 is more like a Raptor than a Gladiator is similar to any other kid sized truck on the market. Your Tacoma TRD 4x4 SLE Z71 FX4 doesn’t come close in capability. Read all the articles you want, compare cup holders, sound systems, and steering wheel stitch patterns, then go drive the two. Offroad worktruck? 3/4 ton would tear it apart. Offroad race truck? Raptor would tear it apart. Tight trail truck? Wrangler Rubicon would tear it apart. Jack of all trades master of none that also seats 4 with a 5' bed? Midsize looks pretty good for a lot less coin. My offroading is using my old Ranger like a UTV around the farm, a Gladiator would struggle due to maneuverability and short bed. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 9:12:19 PM EDT
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As of, (I think) 2016, 2 doors were selling just under 30% of the JK sales. I expect that's dropped a tiny bit. When I last talked to a salesman, he told me that he couldn't give away a 2 door truck. That was before the Gladiator came out. Why in the hell would Jeep even bother with the 2 door style for the Gladiator? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More Gladiators are selling right now than Broncos will sell. As a die hard for guy, you think Ford is going to reuse parts from the F series and pull it off? LOL When I last talked to a salesman, he told me that he couldn't give away a 2 door truck. That was before the Gladiator came out. Why in the hell would Jeep even bother with the 2 door style for the Gladiator? Ford will learn a painful lesson with the Bronco. If an Astro can had 4 inches of lift and Fox shocks there would be a 9 page thread ranking it with TRD and Rubicon 
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Posted: 7/9/2019 9:21:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They won't bother. Ford will learn a painful lesson with the Bronco. If an Astro can had 4 inches of lift and Fox shocks there would be a 9 page thread ranking it with TRD and Rubicon I'm pretty sure this is the point where I suspend my disbelief, if this is the case. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 9:30:20 PM EDT
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Not selling because even by Jeep standards they're ugly as fuck.
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Posted: 7/9/2019 9:33:37 PM EDT
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Will they ever come with a 2 door/larger bed option?
I'm not a jeep guy but I may consider one if that was offered. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 9:51:25 PM EDT
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Will they ever come with a 2 door/larger bed option? I'm not a jeep guy but I may consider one if that was offered. As the current owner of a JK, there is no fucking way I would buy a vehicle with less than half of the interior room. |
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Posted: 7/9/2019 11:16:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They won’t bother. Ford will learn a painful lesson with the Bronco. If an Astro can had 4 inches of lift and Fox shocks there would be a 9 page thread ranking it with TRD and Rubicon |
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Posted: 7/10/2019 2:29:31 AM EDT
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Manufacturers cannot make a 2-door SUV profitable. Jeep only keeps the 2 doors because of “muh heritage”. As a die hard for guy, you think Ford is going to reuse parts from the F series and pull it off? LOL Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More Gladiators are selling right now than Broncos will sell. As a die hard for guy, you think Ford is going to reuse parts from the F series and pull it off? LOL And when did I become a die hard Ford guy? I've only ever owned one. I'm very much a brand agnostic sort of guy that likes variety. |
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Posted: 7/10/2019 3:08:10 AM EDT
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Capability requirements vary and the Gladiator's price point throws it into a big pile. Offroad worktruck? 3/4 ton would tear it apart. Offroad race truck? Raptor would tear it apart. Tight trail truck? Wrangler Rubicon would tear it apart. Jack of all trades master of none that also seats 4 with a 5' bed? Midsize looks pretty good for a lot less coin. My offroading is using my old Ranger like a UTV around the farm, a Gladiator would struggle due to maneuverability and short bed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We went full circle from Jeep Gladiator to Astro Van. Everyone stop swinging your dicks and admit that you’ve never driven a Rubicon off-road or up a hill that would make your boyfriend scream, therefore your vehicle expertise from articles and your comparisons to the Ranger, Tacoma, and Astro can are null and void. The Gladiator is so far from being a Tacoma or Ranger or Astro can. My F150 is more like a Raptor than a Gladiator is similar to any other kid sized truck on the market. Your Tacoma TRD 4x4 SLE Z71 FX4 doesn’t come close in capability. Read all the articles you want, compare cup holders, sound systems, and steering wheel stitch patterns, then go drive the two. Offroad worktruck? 3/4 ton would tear it apart. Offroad race truck? Raptor would tear it apart. Tight trail truck? Wrangler Rubicon would tear it apart. Jack of all trades master of none that also seats 4 with a 5' bed? Midsize looks pretty good for a lot less coin. My offroading is using my old Ranger like a UTV around the farm, a Gladiator would struggle due to maneuverability and short bed. And for another amusing observation, the Gladiator Rubicon and the Ram 2500 Power Wagon are priced almost exactly the same. AutoTrader 
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Posted: 7/10/2019 8:52:55 AM EDT
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Pretty much. And for another amusing observation, the Gladiator Rubicon and the Ram 2500 Power Wagon are priced almost exactly the same. AutoTrader Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We went full circle from Jeep Gladiator to Astro Van. Everyone stop swinging your dicks and admit that you’ve never driven a Rubicon off-road or up a hill that would make your boyfriend scream, therefore your vehicle expertise from articles and your comparisons to the Ranger, Tacoma, and Astro can are null and void. The Gladiator is so far from being a Tacoma or Ranger or Astro can. My F150 is more like a Raptor than a Gladiator is similar to any other kid sized truck on the market. Your Tacoma TRD 4x4 SLE Z71 FX4 doesn’t come close in capability. Read all the articles you want, compare cup holders, sound systems, and steering wheel stitch patterns, then go drive the two. Offroad worktruck? 3/4 ton would tear it apart. Offroad race truck? Raptor would tear it apart. Tight trail truck? Wrangler Rubicon would tear it apart. Jack of all trades master of none that also seats 4 with a 5' bed? Midsize looks pretty good for a lot less coin. My offroading is using my old Ranger like a UTV around the farm, a Gladiator would struggle due to maneuverability and short bed. And for another amusing observation, the Gladiator Rubicon and the Ram 2500 Power Wagon are priced almost exactly the same. AutoTrader 
Is this that moment of clarity when you finally ask yourself "What is so different about these two vehicles that the same manufacturer builds both?" |
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Posted: 7/10/2019 12:09:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who says the Bronco is going to be a 2 door? The only thing we've seen official from Ford is a silhouette under a sheet. And when did I become a die hard Ford guy? I've only ever owned one. I'm very much a brand agnostic sort of guy that likes variety. 
Rumored to be built on the next gen Ranger chassis rather than the current gen. |
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Posted: 7/10/2019 1:22:28 PM EDT
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Is this that moment of clarity when you finally ask yourself "What is so different about these two vehicles that the same manufacturer builds both?" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We went full circle from Jeep Gladiator to Astro Van. Everyone stop swinging your dicks and admit that you’ve never driven a Rubicon off-road or up a hill that would make your boyfriend scream, therefore your vehicle expertise from articles and your comparisons to the Ranger, Tacoma, and Astro can are null and void. The Gladiator is so far from being a Tacoma or Ranger or Astro can. My F150 is more like a Raptor than a Gladiator is similar to any other kid sized truck on the market. Your Tacoma TRD 4x4 SLE Z71 FX4 doesn’t come close in capability. Read all the articles you want, compare cup holders, sound systems, and steering wheel stitch patterns, then go drive the two. Offroad worktruck? 3/4 ton would tear it apart. Offroad race truck? Raptor would tear it apart. Tight trail truck? Wrangler Rubicon would tear it apart. Jack of all trades master of none that also seats 4 with a 5' bed? Midsize looks pretty good for a lot less coin. My offroading is using my old Ranger like a UTV around the farm, a Gladiator would struggle due to maneuverability and short bed. And for another amusing observation, the Gladiator Rubicon and the Ram 2500 Power Wagon are priced almost exactly the same. AutoTrader
Is this that moment of clarity when you finally ask yourself "What is so different about these two vehicles that the same manufacturer builds both?" The little truck with the cramped interior and the passenger car V6 making 285 hp and 260 ft-lbs costs just as much as the big truck with a spacious interior, a V8 with 410 hp and 429 ft-lbs, and heavy duty everything. As a bonus, while the Gladiator has an optional winch bumper, the Power Wagon actually gets a 12k pound Warn winch from the factory that's standard for the trim. The Power Wagon also has lockers and the sway bar disconnect, but I would assume those components are beefier (and therefore more expensive) than those found on the Gladiator. I do understand that the Power Wagon has an economy of scale advantage due to the total volume of the Ram 2500. But the pricing of the Gladiator, for what you get relative to other trucks on the market, just isn't good. |
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Posted: 7/10/2019 2:11:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My criticism this entire time has been one of value. The little truck with the cramped interior and the passenger car V6 making 285 hp and 260 ft-lbs costs just as much as the big truck with a spacious interior, a V8 with 410 hp and 429 ft-lbs, and heavy duty everything. As a bonus, while the Gladiator has an optional winch bumper, the Power Wagon actually gets a 12k pound Warn winch from the factory that's standard for the trim. The Power Wagon also has lockers and the sway bar disconnect, but I would assume those components are beefier (and therefore more expensive) than those found on the Gladiator. I do understand that the Power Wagon has an economy of scale advantage due to the total volume of the Ram 2500. But the pricing of the Gladiator, for what you get relative to other trucks on the market, just isn't good. One of the reasons they make so many vehicles is different people have different requirements. 
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Posted: 7/10/2019 2:53:33 PM EDT
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My criticism this entire time has been one of value. The little truck with the cramped interior and the passenger car V6 making 285 hp and 260 ft-lbs costs just as much as the big truck with a spacious interior, a V8 with 410 hp and 429 ft-lbs, and heavy duty everything. As a bonus, while the Gladiator has an optional winch bumper, the Power Wagon actually gets a 12k pound Warn winch from the factory that's standard for the trim. The Power Wagon also has lockers and the sway bar disconnect, but I would assume those components are beefier (and therefore more expensive) than those found on the Gladiator. I do understand that the Power Wagon has an economy of scale advantage due to the total volume of the Ram 2500. But the pricing of the Gladiator, for what you get relative to other trucks on the market, just isn't good. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We went full circle from Jeep Gladiator to Astro Van. Everyone stop swinging your dicks and admit that you’ve never driven a Rubicon off-road or up a hill that would make your boyfriend scream, therefore your vehicle expertise from articles and your comparisons to the Ranger, Tacoma, and Astro can are null and void. The Gladiator is so far from being a Tacoma or Ranger or Astro can. My F150 is more like a Raptor than a Gladiator is similar to any other kid sized truck on the market. Your Tacoma TRD 4x4 SLE Z71 FX4 doesn’t come close in capability. Read all the articles you want, compare cup holders, sound systems, and steering wheel stitch patterns, then go drive the two. Offroad worktruck? 3/4 ton would tear it apart. Offroad race truck? Raptor would tear it apart. Tight trail truck? Wrangler Rubicon would tear it apart. Jack of all trades master of none that also seats 4 with a 5' bed? Midsize looks pretty good for a lot less coin. My offroading is using my old Ranger like a UTV around the farm, a Gladiator would struggle due to maneuverability and short bed. And for another amusing observation, the Gladiator Rubicon and the Ram 2500 Power Wagon are priced almost exactly the same. AutoTrader
Is this that moment of clarity when you finally ask yourself "What is so different about these two vehicles that the same manufacturer builds both?" The little truck with the cramped interior and the passenger car V6 making 285 hp and 260 ft-lbs costs just as much as the big truck with a spacious interior, a V8 with 410 hp and 429 ft-lbs, and heavy duty everything. As a bonus, while the Gladiator has an optional winch bumper, the Power Wagon actually gets a 12k pound Warn winch from the factory that's standard for the trim. The Power Wagon also has lockers and the sway bar disconnect, but I would assume those components are beefier (and therefore more expensive) than those found on the Gladiator. I do understand that the Power Wagon has an economy of scale advantage due to the total volume of the Ram 2500. But the pricing of the Gladiator, for what you get relative to other trucks on the market, just isn't good. |
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Posted: 7/10/2019 2:57:19 PM EDT
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Mine just came in today...i already own a half ton https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/326156/received_392121424763216_jpeg-1005549.JPG Bash away  |
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Posted: 7/10/2019 3:29:35 PM EDT
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Not like Jeep hasn't tried this a couple of times in the past...expecting different results this time...
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Posted: 7/10/2019 3:44:46 PM EDT
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The Power Wagon is a stock mass produced 2500 with some accessories added on. The Gladiator is a one off vehicle line. "Economy of scale" is literally everything in that comparison. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We went full circle from Jeep Gladiator to Astro Van. Everyone stop swinging your dicks and admit that you’ve never driven a Rubicon off-road or up a hill that would make your boyfriend scream, therefore your vehicle expertise from articles and your comparisons to the Ranger, Tacoma, and Astro can are null and void. The Gladiator is so far from being a Tacoma or Ranger or Astro can. My F150 is more like a Raptor than a Gladiator is similar to any other kid sized truck on the market. Your Tacoma TRD 4x4 SLE Z71 FX4 doesn’t come close in capability. Read all the articles you want, compare cup holders, sound systems, and steering wheel stitch patterns, then go drive the two. Offroad worktruck? 3/4 ton would tear it apart. Offroad race truck? Raptor would tear it apart. Tight trail truck? Wrangler Rubicon would tear it apart. Jack of all trades master of none that also seats 4 with a 5' bed? Midsize looks pretty good for a lot less coin. My offroading is using my old Ranger like a UTV around the farm, a Gladiator would struggle due to maneuverability and short bed. And for another amusing observation, the Gladiator Rubicon and the Ram 2500 Power Wagon are priced almost exactly the same. AutoTrader
Is this that moment of clarity when you finally ask yourself "What is so different about these two vehicles that the same manufacturer builds both?" The little truck with the cramped interior and the passenger car V6 making 285 hp and 260 ft-lbs costs just as much as the big truck with a spacious interior, a V8 with 410 hp and 429 ft-lbs, and heavy duty everything. As a bonus, while the Gladiator has an optional winch bumper, the Power Wagon actually gets a 12k pound Warn winch from the factory that's standard for the trim. The Power Wagon also has lockers and the sway bar disconnect, but I would assume those components are beefier (and therefore more expensive) than those found on the Gladiator. I do understand that the Power Wagon has an economy of scale advantage due to the total volume of the Ram 2500. But the pricing of the Gladiator, for what you get relative to other trucks on the market, just isn't good. |
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Posted: 7/10/2019 4:18:48 PM EDT
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The two vehicles I’ve been looking at have been a TRD Pro 4Runner and the Rubicon Gladiator. I’m not sure whether I’ll be able to personally justify the additional $10k for the jeep, even though I really like it
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Posted: 7/10/2019 4:23:46 PM EDT
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My criticism this entire time has been one of value. The little truck with the cramped interior and the passenger car V6 making 285 hp and 260 ft-lbs costs just as much as the big truck with a spacious interior, a V8 with 410 hp and 429 ft-lbs, and heavy duty everything. As a bonus, while the Gladiator has an optional winch bumper, the Power Wagon actually gets a 12k pound Warn winch from the factory that's standard for the trim. The Power Wagon also has lockers and the sway bar disconnect, but I would assume those components are beefier (and therefore more expensive) than those found on the Gladiator. I do understand that the Power Wagon has an economy of scale advantage due to the total volume of the Ram 2500. But the pricing of the Gladiator, for what you get relative to other trucks on the market, just isn't good. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We went full circle from Jeep Gladiator to Astro Van. Everyone stop swinging your dicks and admit that you’ve never driven a Rubicon off-road or up a hill that would make your boyfriend scream, therefore your vehicle expertise from articles and your comparisons to the Ranger, Tacoma, and Astro can are null and void. The Gladiator is so far from being a Tacoma or Ranger or Astro can. My F150 is more like a Raptor than a Gladiator is similar to any other kid sized truck on the market. Your Tacoma TRD 4x4 SLE Z71 FX4 doesn’t come close in capability. Read all the articles you want, compare cup holders, sound systems, and steering wheel stitch patterns, then go drive the two. Offroad worktruck? 3/4 ton would tear it apart. Offroad race truck? Raptor would tear it apart. Tight trail truck? Wrangler Rubicon would tear it apart. Jack of all trades master of none that also seats 4 with a 5' bed? Midsize looks pretty good for a lot less coin. My offroading is using my old Ranger like a UTV around the farm, a Gladiator would struggle due to maneuverability and short bed. And for another amusing observation, the Gladiator Rubicon and the Ram 2500 Power Wagon are priced almost exactly the same. AutoTrader
Is this that moment of clarity when you finally ask yourself "What is so different about these two vehicles that the same manufacturer builds both?" The little truck with the cramped interior and the passenger car V6 making 285 hp and 260 ft-lbs costs just as much as the big truck with a spacious interior, a V8 with 410 hp and 429 ft-lbs, and heavy duty everything. As a bonus, while the Gladiator has an optional winch bumper, the Power Wagon actually gets a 12k pound Warn winch from the factory that's standard for the trim. The Power Wagon also has lockers and the sway bar disconnect, but I would assume those components are beefier (and therefore more expensive) than those found on the Gladiator. I do understand that the Power Wagon has an economy of scale advantage due to the total volume of the Ram 2500. But the pricing of the Gladiator, for what you get relative to other trucks on the market, just isn't good. I'll quit trying to explain it to you. |
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Posted: 7/10/2019 4:35:19 PM EDT
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I'd buy a two door gladiator. standard one is too long.
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Posted: 7/10/2019 5:15:45 PM EDT
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Wheres the comanche!
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Posted: 7/10/2019 8:52:30 PM EDT
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I'm being told here that a truck with locking front a rear diffs and electronic disco sway bars is just as good as your standard 4wd Ranger. I'm pretty sure this is the point where I suspend my disbelief, if this is the case. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: They won't bother. Ford will learn a painful lesson with the Bronco. If an Astro can had 4 inches of lift and Fox shocks there would be a 9 page thread ranking it with TRD and Rubicon I'm pretty sure this is the point where I suspend my disbelief, if this is the case. |
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Posted: 7/10/2019 8:55:00 PM EDT
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The only ones I've seen are on car carriers, and only a handful at that.
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Posted: 7/10/2019 9:11:12 PM EDT
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I would like to replace my 4WD 2000 Dodge Dakota that has 360k miles on it. It's a 4 door short bed truck that has lockers and 32" tires. Mileage is crap (13 city, 17 highway, 15 combined). And, it's 19 years old. It doesn't owe me anything. I've used it well beyond the life I expected to get out of it years ago.
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Posted: 7/10/2019 9:30:49 PM EDT
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Well there’s already a few going to the junk yard after the train wreck today
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Posted: 7/10/2019 9:51:26 PM EDT
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Well there’s already a few going to the junk yard after the train wreck today I'd be sad if my glad was on that train. I love driving this thing! https://fox13now.com/2019/07/10/dozens-of-brand-new-cars-destroyed-in-spectacular-nevada-train-derailment/  Attached FileETA: Looks to be a couple launch editions there...that sucks! |
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Posted: 7/10/2019 10:03:04 PM EDT
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chrysler != quality
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Posted: 7/10/2019 11:29:26 PM EDT
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Not like Jeep hasn't tried this a couple of times in the past...expecting different results this time... |
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Posted: 7/11/2019 12:26:05 AM EDT
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I thought about stealing the early prototype one I drove today.
Seats and brakes already wore out from test miles.
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Posted: 7/12/2019 2:49:36 PM EDT
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I'd kill to have a real jeep again.
 Attached FileThe gladiator looks like ass. I loved my Scrambler. 1982 with 3" lift. Like the one above, but red and orange stripes and letters |
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Posted: 7/12/2019 3:18:07 PM EDT
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The last real truck Jeep made was in continuous production for 25 years until Chrysler killed it off for fear of harming Ram sales after acquiring Jeep. So, not sure of your point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The last real truck Jeep made was in continuous production for 25 years until Chrysler killed it off for fear of harming Ram sales after acquiring Jeep. So, not sure of your point. I root for the one on TFL's videos, owning a similar '80's compact although from a different brand it is fun to watch. Quoted:
I'd kill to have a real jeep again. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/80601/maxresdefault_jpg-1013338.JPG The gladiator looks like ass. I loved my Scrambler. 1982 with 3" lift. Like the one above, but red and orange stripes and letters |
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Posted: 7/12/2019 3:27:01 PM EDT
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The Comanche looks like a fun little truck, pretty few and far between though. I root for the one on TFL's videos, owning a similar '80's compact although from a different brand it is fun to watch. I parked a CJ-5 at a car show a couple weeks ago. It was so crude and simple... looked like it would be a blast. Event still had a 304 in it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The last real truck Jeep made was in continuous production for 25 years until Chrysler killed it off for fear of harming Ram sales after acquiring Jeep. So, not sure of your point. I root for the one on TFL's videos, owning a similar '80's compact although from a different brand it is fun to watch. Quoted:
I'd kill to have a real jeep again. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/80601/maxresdefault_jpg-1013338.JPG The gladiator looks like ass. I loved my Scrambler. 1982 with 3" lift. Like the one above, but red and orange stripes and letters Always wanted another one, but a V6, and a better lift kit |
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Posted: 7/12/2019 3:30:42 PM EDT
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If they put a v8 hemi in it it would be great. I’m not impressed with the current engine at all
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Posted: 7/12/2019 3:33:04 PM EDT
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If they put a v8 hemi in it it would be great. I'm not impressed with the current engine at all The given unofficial reason is that it would not pass crash testing. |
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Posted: 7/12/2019 3:35:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/12/2019 3:36:29 PM EDT
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That has already been addressed in multiple previous threads, and earlier in this one. The given unofficial reason is that it would not pass crash testing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If they put a v8 hemi in it it would be great. I'm not impressed with the current engine at all The given unofficial reason is that it would not pass crash testing. My guess is it has a lot more to do with epa and projected sales. |
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Posted: 7/12/2019 3:37:39 PM EDT
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I'd kill to have a real jeep again. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/80601/maxresdefault_jpg-1013338.JPG The gladiator looks like ass. I loved my Scrambler. 1982 with 3" lift. Like the one above, but red and orange stripes and letters |
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Posted: 7/12/2019 3:39:52 PM EDT
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That's a reason why they don't put it in the existing platform not a reason why it couldn't be designed in. It could be easily addressed at the manufacturer level if they wanted to. They could have rolled it in to one of the bigger updates. My guess is it has a lot more to do with epa and projected sales. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If they put a v8 hemi in it it would be great. I'm not impressed with the current engine at all The given unofficial reason is that it would not pass crash testing. My guess is it has a lot more to do with epa and projected sales. |
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Posted: 7/12/2019 3:40:24 PM EDT
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Can you still get a 2 door unlimited? I thought those were pretty damn close to scrambler sized. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd kill to have a real jeep again. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/80601/maxresdefault_jpg-1013338.JPG The gladiator looks like ass. I loved my Scrambler. 1982 with 3" lift. Like the one above, but red and orange stripes and letters |
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Posted: 7/12/2019 3:41:17 PM EDT
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Can you still get a 2 door unlimited? I thought those were pretty damn close to scrambler sized. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd kill to have a real jeep again. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/80601/maxresdefault_jpg-1013338.JPG The gladiator looks like ass. I loved my Scrambler. 1982 with 3" lift. Like the one above, but red and orange stripes and letters CJ was the last of the Jeeps |
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Posted: 7/12/2019 3:47:30 PM EDT
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Eww. get out of here with that thought. CJ was the last of the Jeeps Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd kill to have a real jeep again. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/80601/maxresdefault_jpg-1013338.JPG The gladiator looks like ass. I loved my Scrambler. 1982 with 3" lift. Like the one above, but red and orange stripes and letters CJ was the last of the Jeeps 
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Posted: 7/12/2019 4:49:12 PM EDT
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I'd kill to have a real jeep again. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/80601/maxresdefault_jpg-1013338.JPG The gladiator looks like ass. I loved my Scrambler. 1982 with 3" lift. Like the one above, but red and orange stripes and letters
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Posted: 7/12/2019 5:10:50 PM EDT
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2 door Unlimited models were 2005 and 2006, known as the LJ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd kill to have a real jeep again. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/80601/maxresdefault_jpg-1013338.JPG The gladiator looks like ass. I loved my Scrambler. 1982 with 3" lift. Like the one above, but red and orange stripes and letters 
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Posted: 7/12/2019 5:59:25 PM EDT
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Lengthening the front end to fit the extra length would probably cause a rift in the Jeep universe. |
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Posted: 7/12/2019 6:22:38 PM EDT
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They fit as-is. See Litebrite on youtube, where they are currently doing a Hemi swap. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lengthening the front end to fit the extra length would probably cause a rift in the Jeep universe. I'm familiar with several channels who have done Hemi swaps. |
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