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Posted: 6/28/2022 8:17:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't own a Jeep. 200 series Land Cruiser master race member. 
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Posted: 6/28/2022 8:19:35 AM EDT
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  I got a Sport for a work rental. I'm not a car guy, but I drove it for over 600 miles and I found it pretty decent. ride was decent, fairly quiet, liked the simplicity of the dashboard. had decent get up and go power. I owned a Ford Ranger for 14 years. Loved that truck. Ford makes decent vehicles. I would take a serious look at one for driving in WI winters and some light trails during the hunting season. |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 8:19:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In this thread 87% of the people bitching about the new Bronco don't know the difference between the bronco sport and the bronco. One is a sport and one isn’t?  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 8:21:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't and will never own a Bronco. I'm a member of the Land Cruiser master race.
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Posted: 6/28/2022 8:23:49 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I want one. 
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Posted: 6/28/2022 8:26:46 AM EDT
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I drove one yesterday at a lot that had a bunch of "used" ones all with under 1k miles lol. I don't remember the trim level of it but it had the 4cyl, leather interior, soft top, 360 degree camera etc.
It was $78k  Drove home in my 18 F150 instead lol Here's a pic of the lot with my kid who loves these things.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 8:42:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Came to post this. The IFS vs SFA is purely subjective. Even IF ifs is superior one way, SFA beats it another so its a wash. Far as the other things he's list, Jeep finally stepped up to the plate on those offerings. The main reason I was excited for the Bronco was the competition jeep has gone so long without. Jeep turbo engine seems a tad anemic compared to the fords turbo though. Not really. The Wrangler and it’s SFA is a better pure off-roader. But the majority of these vehicles will spend 99% of their lives on road - and the Bronco is significantly better on road while only being slightly worse off road. |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 8:42:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Bronco looks both kinda cool and kinda weird. I can see why some don’t care for the looks. I like the 2 Door with the Sasquatch. I would consider one in the future only… once they are somewhat debugged. 
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Posted: 6/28/2022 8:56:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I own the real Bronco, the frame off is almost finished on my 1977 The only real Bronco! 
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Posted: 6/28/2022 9:00:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It can be had new for under 40K so it’s not expensive and certainly does not show status or flex on poors. Ford Flex 
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Posted: 6/28/2022 9:05:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Land Cruiser was never intended to be a rock crawler. It's an overlander. What vehicle would you trust to drive through the African bush or the outback in Australia, a Land Cruiser or Bronco???  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 9:09:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/28/2022 9:09:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quite a few bronco owners at my place of work. Not one complaint. All of them are happy with their purchase. The issue with new vehicle releases is that it takes a few years to find out what the problems are. Chevy Vega owners loved their vehicles for the first year or two, then not so much. |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 9:14:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2022 Ford Bronco 4 door with 2.3 auto here. One of the best new Vehicles Ive owned. Base model with Sasquatch and Aux switches. Technically its the wifes and she loves it. It went on a 3 out of 10 trail near us and laughed at it. Awesome approach, breakover and departure angles, and its the 4 door long wheelbase. Vaughn Gitten Jr took a Crush Bronco to Moab and killed the Hardest trail there with essentially a stock Sasquatch 2.7 4 door. Its unfortunate that the shortages have hit a launch like the Bronco very hard, as well as a certain run of 2.7TT V6s having valves causing catastrophic engine failure. But, with a sample size of 1, our Bronco is fucking awesome. Unless you need other shit in the higher trim levels, Base with Sasquatch is all you need. Hardest trail in Moab....No,not by a long shot. Kia Tellurides and Subarus have completed that trail.Rental Jeep Wranglers with first time drivers complete that trail weekly. |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 9:15:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:40+ years as the most reliable vehicle ever made, serving people around the globe and the UN’s official vehicle and he’s worse than a Jeep? I thought that was the subaru. 
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Posted: 6/28/2022 9:16:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d rather have a Ford than a Nissan What about a Datsun? |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 9:21:56 AM EDT
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So I decided to trade my bronco in. Was thinking about a Pontiac Aztec?
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Posted: 6/28/2022 9:24:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But it has GOAT mode guys As in GOAT rope or GOAT f**k? 
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Posted: 6/28/2022 9:25:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Everyone at work "I have a Bronco" "I have a Jeep" /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/deOINby-52.gif You have a car with Bronco written on it or Jeep written on it, save for the 5 Wranglers in the lot. No new real Broncos yet at my work yet. That means they have a Bronco or a Jeep. lol |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 9:25:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Owning a Land Cruiser is an understated display of wealth. Understated??  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 9:27:43 AM EDT
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And then there’s the ICE part of the company that will disappear.
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Posted: 6/28/2022 9:29:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/28/2022 9:30:51 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: (Bronco is not made by Chrysler) 
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Posted: 6/28/2022 9:38:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/28/2022 10:03:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Owning a Land Cruiser is an understated display of wealth. Understated?? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/vladimir-putin-laughing_zpsov82lsef_GIF-129.gif Yes, understated. An in your face display of wealth would be driving an LX570 or LX600. |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 10:07:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, understated. An in your face display of wealth would be driving an LX570 or LX600. Pathetic. G wagon or gtfo. |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 11:17:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I decided to trade my bronco in. Was thinking about a Pontiac Aztec? The Aztecs rear tent you could buy as an accessory was pretty sweet. |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 11:35:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: -more hp/torque with similar mpg -better on road manners and smoother ride due to ifs. -better tech such as 360 degree cameras, 12 inch screen, trail turn assist, electronic sta bar disc. -Sasquatch package with 35s, improved suspension and gearing available for ALL trim levels. good enough so far? Meh I can live without all of that junk. But I do hope that bronco sales eat into jeeps profits enough to hurt. I’d like to see Jeep offer the rubicon as an option and not a trim level, it should have been that way since 2003 I’d be happy with either a Jeep or bronco 2 dr factory stripped down off-roader - 35s and lockers f+r and appropriate gear ratio, I’m fine with t case gearing from 2.7-4.3, but a factory 4 speed t case would be amazing. Manual transmission, base model engine is fine. No carpet maybe factory bed liner, rear seat delete, spare tire carrier delete, marine grade vinyl seats, half doors, soft top. The only real luxury things I want would be a simple radio, heat, ac, and factory upfitter switches |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 11:53:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pathetic. G wagon or gtfo. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes, understated. An in your face display of wealth would be driving an LX570 or LX600. Pathetic. G wagon or gtfo. Agreed, but we are talking Toyota/Lexus. |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 12:04:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Aztecs rear tent you could buy as an accessory was pretty sweet. Very handy when it broke down or when ya never got laid because you drive an Aztec. |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 12:30:19 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The only real Bronco! https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/cimg/www.ford-trucks.com/1600x900_85-1/354/1-367354.png Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I own the real Bronco, the frame off is almost finished on my 1977 The only real Bronco! https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/cimg/www.ford-trucks.com/1600x900_85-1/354/1-367354.png Very nice. My '81 302 Bronco was similar. |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 2:56:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  The primary target market for the Bronco Sport is the granola munching active lifestyle crowd. Next in line is rural people who need a vehicle that's somewhat capable without having all the compromises of a 15 MPG BOF 4x4. The ghetto crowd isn't lining up for a $30k+ crossover with no street cred. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: In this thread 87% of the people bitching about the new Bronco don't know the difference between the bronco sport and the bronco. Isn’t the sport model the non-sporty one! The sport model is the hood rat version. Just like polo sport, hilfiger sport, anything sport. It’s for the poors. So you think the bronco sport is the good one? I would quit while you’re ahead. You are already looking pretty dumb right now. The bronco sport is the neutered, Ford Escape based mini Ute. I’d hate to be a “man” who can’t tell the difference. The primary target market for the Bronco Sport is the granola munching active lifestyle crowd. Next in line is rural people who need a vehicle that's somewhat capable without having all the compromises of a 15 MPG BOF 4x4. The ghetto crowd isn't lining up for a $30k+ crossover with no street cred. Aaaannd it’s now official. You can’t read and in your haste to post the “this guy is dumb” emoji, you completely missed the entire point of my post. I’m sorry that you can’t figure anything out on your own. I’m also sorry I even bothered engaging with someone like you. I hope things improve for you someday. |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 3:08:56 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Aaaannd it’s now official. You can’t read and in your haste to post the “this guy is dumb” emoji, you completely missed the entire point of my post. I’m sorry that you can’t figure anything out on your own. I’m also sorry I even bothered engaging with someone like you. I hope things improve for you someday. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: In this thread 87% of the people bitching about the new Bronco don't know the difference between the bronco sport and the bronco. Isn’t the sport model the non-sporty one! The sport model is the hood rat version. Just like polo sport, hilfiger sport, anything sport. It’s for the poors. So you think the bronco sport is the good one? I would quit while you’re ahead. You are already looking pretty dumb right now. The bronco sport is the neutered, Ford Escape based mini Ute. I’d hate to be a “man” who can’t tell the difference. The primary target market for the Bronco Sport is the granola munching active lifestyle crowd. Next in line is rural people who need a vehicle that's somewhat capable without having all the compromises of a 15 MPG BOF 4x4. The ghetto crowd isn't lining up for a $30k+ crossover with no street cred. Aaaannd it’s now official. You can’t read and in your haste to post the “this guy is dumb” emoji, you completely missed the entire point of my post. I’m sorry that you can’t figure anything out on your own. I’m also sorry I even bothered engaging with someone like you. I hope things improve for you someday. You said "The sport model is the hood rat version." Those are your words. There's really only one way to interpret that unless you are misusing terms you don't understand. Let me help you out: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hoodrat |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 3:12:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aaaannd it’s now official. You can’t read and in your haste to post the “this guy is dumb” emoji, you completely missed the entire point of my post. I’m sorry that you can’t figure anything out on your own. I’m also sorry I even bothered engaging with someone like you. I hope things improve for you someday. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: In this thread 87% of the people bitching about the new Bronco don't know the difference between the bronco sport and the bronco. Isn’t the sport model the non-sporty one! The sport model is the hood rat version. Just like polo sport, hilfiger sport, anything sport. It’s for the poors. So you think the bronco sport is the good one? I would quit while you’re ahead. You are already looking pretty dumb right now. The bronco sport is the neutered, Ford Escape based mini Ute. I’d hate to be a “man” who can’t tell the difference. The primary target market for the Bronco Sport is the granola munching active lifestyle crowd. Next in line is rural people who need a vehicle that's somewhat capable without having all the compromises of a 15 MPG BOF 4x4. The ghetto crowd isn't lining up for a $30k+ crossover with no street cred. Aaaannd it’s now official. You can’t read and in your haste to post the “this guy is dumb” emoji, you completely missed the entire point of my post. I’m sorry that you can’t figure anything out on your own. I’m also sorry I even bothered engaging with someone like you. I hope things improve for you someday. Nice - ignorance, arrogance AND persistence. Hat trick! |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 3:12:36 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, understated. An in your face display of wealth would be driving an LX570 or LX600. Literally the same vehicle, just a little uglier. And not much more in price |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 3:24:06 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Aaaannd it’s now official. You can’t read and in your haste to post the “this guy is dumb” emoji, you completely missed the entire point of my post. I’m sorry that you can’t figure anything out on your own. I’m also sorry I even bothered engaging with someone like you. I hope things improve for you someday. 
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Posted: 6/28/2022 3:28:28 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted: Would you buy a first year vehicle from any manufacturer, especially a US car company? Not Bronco, not US. but I bought a first year Honda Pilot and have been happy with it. |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 6:59:05 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Very nice. My '81 302 Bronco was similar. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I own the real Bronco, the frame off is almost finished on my 1977 The only real Bronco! https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/cimg/www.ford-trucks.com/1600x900_85-1/354/1-367354.png Very nice. My '81 302 Bronco was similar. NM looked it up 135. Wow but mu V8  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 11:33:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What was the HP for a 81' 302? NM looked it up 135. Wow but mu V8 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/108486/3FAC7E8C-18EE-433F-A862-473F9CD82240_jpe-2434216.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I own the real Bronco, the frame off is almost finished on my 1977 The only real Bronco! https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/cimg/www.ford-trucks.com/1600x900_85-1/354/1-367354.png Very nice. My '81 302 Bronco was similar. NM looked it up 135. Wow but mu V8 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/108486/3FAC7E8C-18EE-433F-A862-473F9CD82240_jpe-2434216.JPG Yeah it was just the 2 barrel carb. But it got the job done. Fuel economy was pretty good for a V8. |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 11:46:20 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh I can live without all of that junk. But I do hope that bronco sales eat into jeeps profits enough to hurt. I’d like to see Jeep offer the rubicon as an option and not a trim level, it should have been that way since 2003 I’d be happy with either a Jeep or bronco 2 dr factory stripped down off-roader - 35s and lockers f+r and appropriate gear ratio, I’m fine with t case gearing from 2.7-4.3, but a factory 4 speed t case would be amazing. Manual transmission, base model engine is fine. No carpet maybe factory bed liner, rear seat delete, spare tire carrier delete, marine grade vinyl seats, half doors, soft top. The only real luxury things I want would be a simple radio, heat, ac, and factory upfitter switches This. Every Wrangler sold should have (at least) D44s front and rear. They should all have rear lockers standard. a new Rubicon option should maybe have something a little beefier that's in between a D44 and a wonton. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 4:47:35 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The contrary- I wanted one. Bad. I’ll probably wait for the next 4Runner now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So many people seem to want it to suck. I'm just over here driving the shit out of mine. The contrary- I wanted one. Bad. I’ll probably wait for the next 4Runner now. I want both, then I'll turn my 4th gen runner into a dedicated trail rig. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 4:56:01 PM EDT
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LOL Bronco 2 at best, where IS the full sized Bronco anyways? and while were at it who conjured up that slab of shit they are calling a Grand Wagoneer?
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Posted: 6/29/2022 5:01:50 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So I decided to trade my bronco in. Was thinking about a Pontiac Aztec? Aztec is Honda elements gay cousin |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 5:07:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only real Bronco! https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/cimg/www.ford-trucks.com/1600x900_85-1/354/1-367354.png Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I own the real Bronco, the frame off is almost finished on my 1977 The only real Bronco! https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/cimg/www.ford-trucks.com/1600x900_85-1/354/1-367354.png 
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Posted: 6/29/2022 5:08:31 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: (Bronco is not made by Chrysler) If it were it would probably be less problematic. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 5:14:14 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The issue with new vehicle releases is that it takes a few years to find out what the problems are. Chevy Vega owners loved their vehicles for the first year or two, then not so much. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quite a few bronco owners at my place of work. Not one complaint. All of them are happy with their purchase. The issue with new vehicle releases is that it takes a few years to find out what the problems are. Chevy Vega owners loved their vehicles for the first year or two, then not so much.  I wonder how long it will be before I can buy a used one of these with a blown motor (really cheap) so I can stuff a 460 in it
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Posted: 6/29/2022 9:00:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2022 9:16:37 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL Bronco 2 at best, where IS the full sized Bronco anyways? and while were at it who conjured up that slab of shit they are calling a Grand Wagoneer? What you're looking for is an Expedition.. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 9:19:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I drove one yesterday at a lot that had a bunch of "used" ones all with under 1k miles lol. I don't remember the trim level of it but it had the 4cyl, leather interior, soft top, 360 degree camera etc. It was $78k Drove home in my 18 F150 instead lol Here's a pic of the lot with my kid who loves these things. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/64854/20220627_155933_jpg-2433631.JPG My 2022 f150 Raptor just came in and dealer offered me $81k for my first edition. |
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Posted: 6/29/2022 10:09:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How are the cam phasers and timing chains on those? I would never buy another Ecoboost anything after my last experience. Watching the dealership clowns pretend that it wasn’t actually happening was also amusing. Similar experience with my Ecoboost Flex It was faster than anything it’s size had a right to be but had an intermittent drivability issue they couldn’t figure out until it went out of warranty. Imagine that, 3K outside of warranty they figured out it was a timing chain issue and wanted $1400 to fix it. Called Ford and told them this had been an ongoing issue that the dealer couldn’t figure out while it was still under warranty. They said tough shit. Had they offered to even split the cost with me I would have been happy but they said nope, not our problem. I told them that after owning Fords for over 30 years I would never own another. They didn’t care so I fixed it and traded it on an Acura that while boring was reliable as hell. Traded that on my Gladiator and never looked back. Fuck Ford |
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