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Posted: 6/4/2016 12:58:25 PM EST
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Seriously, $2-4 or even $5 for a box that doesn't even have a pound of flavored corn, wheat or oats. What I'm guessing are the most plentiful grains in the US. I'll stick to eggs.  ORGANIC boxed cereal. /thread |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 1:03:19 PM EST
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I get it. But that doesn't mean bottled water is some kind of special elixir that cures your ails. It's just better tasting municipal water. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Actually, I think that boutique bottled water is the biggest scam. Morons spending ridiculous amounts of money on stuff that covers 75% of the world. Bingo. Most of that shit comes from municipal water supplies anyway. Come taste the water out of my tap. It tastes like swimming pool water. Filters do help, but I buy bottled. It's that bad. Same here. My local water tastes like shit. I get it. But that doesn't mean bottled water is some kind of special elixir that cures your ails. It's just better tasting municipal water. Never thought it was. I just can't stand to drink my cities tap water. When I go to work the water there tastes fine and I drink it all day, this is a half hour north of where I live, in another city. |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 1:04:53 PM EST
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You think carbs are somehow magically bad for you don't you? No. I know they are. Ah ok. So let's throw science out the window. Makes sense. |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 1:07:10 PM EST
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Ah ok. So let's throw science out the window. Makes sense. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You think carbs are somehow magically bad for you don't you? No. I know they are. Ah ok. So let's throw science out the window. Makes sense. 
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Posted: 6/4/2016 1:19:20 PM EST
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If you pay full price for cereal then yes, its not a terribly good deal. I suppose I'll have to give you the same advice I give my children. Look for cereal thats on sale. Compare the price per ounce (Listed in very small print in the lower right on most price tags). You can find good cereal on sale at prices that often match the generic cheap shit cereal. Which makes it a very good value. This. And boxed cereal? Bagged. My rule of thumb is "dime an ounce". The math isn't even math, it's literally just inserting a decimal point in between the ounce size numbers on the cereal box/bag. "Oh, that's a 20oz box/bag of Raisin Bran, should be $2.00... more than $2.00? Too much. Less than $2.00? Do I like it? Goes in cart. 12oz? $1.20 28oz? $2.80 32oz? $3.20 Coupons are a bonus, especially the ~$1 off 3 bags/boxes, + a free gallon of milk (~$3.50 which I buy anyways). Plus, it always seems like there's some brand/type/kind of cereal where the store seems to have gotten it very a super cheap wholesale price, and then marked it up without checking similar cereal types/sizes. MOM 'Cinnamon Toast Crunch' in a 24oz bag for $2.19 Kellog's Frosted Flakes in a 28oz box for $1.99 Post Raisin Bran in a 20oz box for $1.89 Etc. |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 1:25:56 PM EST
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If nobody has said it....Aldi
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Posted: 6/4/2016 1:29:54 PM EST
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Honey Bunches of Oats with Almonds tho 
Try it with almond milk.
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Posted: 6/4/2016 7:48:06 PM EST
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No. I know they are. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You think carbs are somehow magically bad for you don't you? No. I know they are. Carbs are bad for most of us. They are great to mix with protein and fat for those people with high activity levels. |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 8:39:54 PM EST
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I'm saying it's not. Longer lower insulin spikes are still insulin spikes, shorter higher insulin spikes are still spikes. Insulin makes you turn carbs into fat. You can have that. I'll keep undoing it and keep losing weight. You don't seem to be aware that you are consistently in a state of either anabolism or catabolism. Storing fat is normal. You do it with or without carbohydrates. I won't argue sugar being bad for you. One could argue moderation is key with sugar and be correct but the upper limit of what should be considered moderate compared to what we actually consume on average is so different we might as well just say sugar is bad for you and accept that we are exaggerating the truth and encourage people to change their ways. I can't do that with carbohydrates though. If you can you should probably do more research on how the body metabolizes different macro nutrients. |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 8:53:19 PM EST
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Potato Chips. Two or three potatoes, sliced and fried. $3 I'd go with this, besides bottled water |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 8:55:43 PM EST
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ORGANIC boxed cereal. /thread Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seriously, $2-4 or even $5 for a box that doesn't even have a pound of flavored corn, wheat or oats. What I'm guessing are the most plentiful grains in the US. I'll stick to eggs. ORGANIC boxed cereal. /thread I was thinking ORGANIC anything but you nailed it. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 9:10:22 PM EST
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Cereal sucks anyway. A proper breakfast is last night's leftovers. Spaggetti and meatballs, steak and veggies, chinese carryour...all taste better at 5:30. 
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yep. Dinner foods for all meals. |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 10:53:51 PM EST
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Seriously, $2-4 or even $5 for a box that doesn't even have a pound of flavored corn, wheat or oats. What I'm guessing are the most plentiful grains in the US. I'll stick to eggs. And unlike any cereal, eggs are actually healthy. What's unhealthy about cereal? Everything. That's no answer!
You're going to have to be a lot more specific than some vague blanket condemnation. Let's hear some real facts, preferably with cites so we know its not just someone's bullshit opinion. |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 10:58:09 PM EST
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When you reach your 50's, you begin to view boxed cereal (raisin bran, grape nuts, kashi, ezekiel, etc.. ) as a "medicinal investment" as part of your regimen to keep things... ummm.... regulated. Post-50, cereal is what's for dinner, because who wants to cook? Blending flavors for pleasure is so First World. |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 11:02:48 PM EST
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Yep. Dinner foods for all meals. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cereal sucks anyway. A proper breakfast is last night's leftovers. Spaggetti and meatballs, steak and veggies, chinese carryour...all taste better at 5:30.
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yep. Dinner foods for all meals. You got that backwards, Ace!!! Breakfast foods for all meals |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 11:08:06 PM EST
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I'd go with this, besides bottled water Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Potato Chips. Two or three potatoes, sliced and fried. $3 I'd go with this, besides bottled water To be fair, have you ever *tried* recreating 8 cooked ounces of perfectly cooked and perfectly seasoned potato chips? |
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Posted: 6/4/2016 11:16:50 PM EST
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Part of the problem is your prob buying the name brand. Get the stuff in the bags along the ground for a fraction of a price.
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Posted: 6/5/2016 4:47:13 AM EST
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You don't seem to be aware that you are consistently in a state of either anabolism or catabolism. Storing fat is normal. You do it with or without carbohydrates. I won't argue sugar being bad for you. One could argue moderation is key with sugar and be correct but the upper limit of what should be considered moderate compared to what we actually consume on average is so different we might as well just say sugar is bad for you and accept that we are exaggerating the truth and encourage people to change their ways. I can't do that with carbohydrates though. If you can you should probably do more research on how the body metabolizes different macro nutrients. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm saying it's not. Longer lower insulin spikes are still insulin spikes, shorter higher insulin spikes are still spikes. Insulin makes you turn carbs into fat. You can have that. I'll keep undoing it and keep losing weight. You don't seem to be aware that you are consistently in a state of either anabolism or catabolism. Storing fat is normal. You do it with or without carbohydrates. I won't argue sugar being bad for you. One could argue moderation is key with sugar and be correct but the upper limit of what should be considered moderate compared to what we actually consume on average is so different we might as well just say sugar is bad for you and accept that we are exaggerating the truth and encourage people to change their ways. I can't do that with carbohydrates though. If you can you should probably do more research on how the body metabolizes different macro nutrients. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 4:50:01 AM EST
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That's no answer!
You're going to have to be a lot more specific than some vague blanket condemnation. Let's hear some real facts, preferably with cites so we know its not just someone's bullshit opinion. Look up "oxidative stress". Then look up how many calories a gram of glucose and a gram of fat contain, then compare the the storage ability of each, at any body fat level you choose. Then look up the effects of insulin on the body, and what each of the macros do it. You'll have your answer. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 5:40:49 AM EST
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I've done more than most doctors will ever consider. It's how I've lost over 100 lbs of fat. All the information is out there, in medical texts, but it's ignored. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm saying it's not. Longer lower insulin spikes are still insulin spikes, shorter higher insulin spikes are still spikes. Insulin makes you turn carbs into fat. You can have that. I'll keep undoing it and keep losing weight. You don't seem to be aware that you are consistently in a state of either anabolism or catabolism. Storing fat is normal. You do it with or without carbohydrates. I won't argue sugar being bad for you. One could argue moderation is key with sugar and be correct but the upper limit of what should be considered moderate compared to what we actually consume on average is so different we might as well just say sugar is bad for you and accept that we are exaggerating the truth and encourage people to change their ways. I can't do that with carbohydrates though. If you can you should probably do more research on how the body metabolizes different macro nutrients. anybody who does this deserves an "attaboy". I salute you. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 6:17:53 AM EST
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The price is high for what you get. I get 2 1/4 servings out of a box that costs nearly $5.00. Add the cost of fruit to top it off and it ain't cheap.
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Posted: 6/5/2016 6:21:55 AM EST
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Actually, I think that boutique bottled water is the biggest scam. Morons spending ridiculous amounts of money on stuff that covers 75% of the world. Spell "Evian" backwards. eta HKUSP45C beat me to it. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 7:10:36 AM EST
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Seriously, $2-4 or even $5 for a box that doesn't even have a pound of flavored corn, wheat or oats. What I'm guessing are the most plentiful grains in the US. I'll stick to eggs. I remember reading a while ago about how it cost less than 25 cents to produce a box of wheaties and put it on the shelf less than 10 cents for a 12 once can of coke 16 once plastic bottle of coke was even less due to plastic being cheaper than aluminum same with things like potato chips, box of mac & cheese etc... They have quite the profit margin with many products. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 7:13:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll agree with bottled water. What a joke  |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 7:19:55 AM EST
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Get on a low carb diet. Then its not an issue.
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Posted: 6/5/2016 7:54:30 AM EST
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Exactly. I know a guy that is in local management at the coke plant. Bottled water is by far their highest profit per investment product. They were already purifying water for their products and bottling it their and that made for a cheap transition, too. It doesn't "expire" either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Actually, I think that boutique bottled water is the biggest scam. Morons spending ridiculous amounts of money on stuff that covers 75% of the world. Exactly. I know a guy that is in local management at the coke plant. Bottled water is by far their highest profit per investment product. They were already purifying water for their products and bottling it their and that made for a cheap transition, too. It doesn't "expire" either. You have to defer to the opinion of a bottling expert to find out that water is cheap as hell and lasts a long time? 
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Posted: 6/5/2016 7:57:01 AM EST
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Oatmeal is best.
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Posted: 6/5/2016 8:00:29 AM EST
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You got that backwards, Ace!!! Breakfast foods for all meals Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cereal sucks anyway. A proper breakfast is last night's leftovers. Spaggetti and meatballs, steak and veggies, chinese carryour...all taste better at 5:30.
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yep. Dinner foods for all meals. You got that backwards, Ace!!! Breakfast foods for all meals Ewwwww Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 8:03:22 AM EST
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poor people thread No it's a cheap bastard thread. Way too many of these here on ARFCOM. At least if you are too cheap to buy decent brand named boxed cereal no one knows when you leave the house. Unlike all those cheap fucks over in the Flobee thread. Thier fucked up, canted, Quasimodo looking haircuts can be seen from three isles away at Walmarts all across the country. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 8:11:24 AM EST
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Quit bitching about the price of water. For about $70 you can make this and have about 10 gallons of better water than you can buy per day. Two food grade buckets from Lowes. Two Doulton Candle filters from Amazon. One spigot from Amazon. I made a stand for mine out of scrap iron.
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Posted: 6/5/2016 8:12:55 AM EST
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OP, you're buying it wrong. Wait for the $1.69 per box sale
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Posted: 6/5/2016 8:14:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just eat my store brand corn flakes. A lot of times I find them on sale for a dollar. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 8:21:03 AM EST
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Worse, it's all carbs and sugar. Cereal is a big contributor to America's obesity and diabetes epidemic.
There is no "reasonable daily portion" of cereal for kids. It's still garbage. Give it to them as rarely as dessert, or candy bars. The food pyramid is dangerously wrong. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 8:32:01 AM EST
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Way too many of these here on ARFCOM. At least if you are too cheap to buy decent brand named boxed cereal no one knows when you leave the house. Unlike all those cheap fucks over in the Flobee thread. Thier fucked up, canted, Quasimodo looking haircuts can be seen from three isles away at Walmarts all across the country. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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poor people thread No it's a cheap bastard thread. Way too many of these here on ARFCOM. At least if you are too cheap to buy decent brand named boxed cereal no one knows when you leave the house. Unlike all those cheap fucks over in the Flobee thread. Thier fucked up, canted, Quasimodo looking haircuts can be seen from three isles away at Walmarts all across the country. FFS this.....plus the fact that some of yall are ARGUING OVER CEREAL.....
And Captain Crunch Berries FTMFW
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Posted: 6/5/2016 8:38:12 AM EST
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Stupid people buy name brand cereal. Walmart doest own a cereal company, they pay general mill to put their stuff in a Greatvalue box. Same with all other big chains. Bottled water is the biggest rip off. Kids and grand kids leave the empties around my house. I clean them, fill with tap water and put in fridge. Morons cant tell the difference. ( I DO HAVE A ONE MICRON FILTER) Sarbucks is another bullshit rip off . $5 coffee my ass, 99 cents at 7-11 and 2 days a week mine throws in a free donut. A latte is an easy $5-7 I bought an espresso machine, $200. syrup $3.00 on Amazon, espresso beans or pre-ground $10.00 and cream $4.00, I am at about $1-2.00 per latte and mine is always the same, no barista dicking with it. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 8:40:11 AM EST
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Actually, I think that boutique bottled water is the biggest scam. Morons spending ridiculous amounts of money on stuff that covers 75% of the world. It is. Without question. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 8:40:32 AM EST
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Actually, I think that boutique bottled water is the biggest scam. Morons spending ridiculous amounts of money on stuff that covers 75% of the world. Evian spelled backwards is Naive. Love it!
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Posted: 6/5/2016 8:45:03 AM EST
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Plain oatmeal +whatever I'm feeling like that day. Bulk oats are cheap
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Posted: 6/5/2016 8:49:18 AM EST
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Cereal sucks anyway. A proper breakfast is last night's leftovers. Spaggetti and meatballs, steak and veggies, chinese carryour...all taste better at 5:30.
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Funny you say that because I also just eat food when im hungry. In fact I probably eat more "breakfast foods" for dinner than actual breakfast lol |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 8:51:38 AM EST
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Quit bitching about the price of water. For about $70 you can make this and have about 19 gallons of better water than you can buy per day. Two food grade buckets from Lowes. Two Doulton Candle filters from Amazon. One spigot from Amazon. I made a stand for mine out of scrap iron. http://<a href=http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx328/Beauacadian/Water1.jpeg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx328/Beauacadian/water2.jpeg</a>" /> Pangea - With exception of using Berkey filters, that's exactly the same setup I've seen in Guatemala. Back on topic: you can make your own cereal with oatmeal, honey, brown sugar, nuts (your choice). You mix it up, bake it and then allow to cool. Throw in raisins or craisins and store it in a jar until ready to use. It's cheaper and better than store bought cereal. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 10:10:23 AM EST
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Printer ink is about the same price as gold. A good set 4 color process long molecular chain (Excellent rub resistance) packaging specific ink is currently around $17.50. A priced set consists of one pound each of Black, Cyan, Magenta and Yellow. I just checked out the color bars on my box of Raisin Bran and it is 4 color process plus 2 spot colors. One spot color is obviously a Florescent ink. This one ink could easily be over $10 a pound. By the time you run a sheet of 14 Pt C1S substrate through a six color press with inline aqueous coating. Then separate handling and a pass through a Die cutter to cut and score it. Then more handling and another pass down a folding/gluing line. When finally handled the last time to be boxed or palletized for shipping you definitively have produced the most expensive component of a box of cereal. The eye catching packaging. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 11:02:04 AM EST
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I've done more than most doctors will ever consider. It's how I've lost over 100 lbs of fat. All the information is out there, in medical texts, but it's ignored. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm saying it's not. Longer lower insulin spikes are still insulin spikes, shorter higher insulin spikes are still spikes. Insulin makes you turn carbs into fat. You can have that. I'll keep undoing it and keep losing weight. You don't seem to be aware that you are consistently in a state of either anabolism or catabolism. Storing fat is normal. You do it with or without carbohydrates. I won't argue sugar being bad for you. One could argue moderation is key with sugar and be correct but the upper limit of what should be considered moderate compared to what we actually consume on average is so different we might as well just say sugar is bad for you and accept that we are exaggerating the truth and encourage people to change their ways. I can't do that with carbohydrates though. If you can you should probably do more research on how the body metabolizes different macro nutrients. As have I. I also lost over 100 pounds of fat. Experimented with ketosis in the process but it wasn't necessary. Much easier to just eat whatever I wanted. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 11:07:37 AM EST
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A good set 4 color process long molecular chain (Excellent rub resistance) packaging specific ink is currently around $17.50. A priced set consists of one pound each of Black, Cyan, Magenta and Yellow. I just checked out the color bars on my box of Raisin Bran and it is 4 color process plus 2 spot colors. One spot color is obviously a Florescent ink. This one ink could easily be over $10 a pound. By the time you run a sheet of 14 Pt C1S substrate through a six color press with inline aqueous coating. Then separate handling and a pass through a Die cutter to cut and score it. Then more handling and another pass down a folding/gluing line. When finally handled the last time to be boxed or palletized for shipping you definitively have produced the most expensive component of a box of cereal. The eye catching packaging. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Printer ink is about the same price as gold. A good set 4 color process long molecular chain (Excellent rub resistance) packaging specific ink is currently around $17.50. A priced set consists of one pound each of Black, Cyan, Magenta and Yellow. I just checked out the color bars on my box of Raisin Bran and it is 4 color process plus 2 spot colors. One spot color is obviously a Florescent ink. This one ink could easily be over $10 a pound. By the time you run a sheet of 14 Pt C1S substrate through a six color press with inline aqueous coating. Then separate handling and a pass through a Die cutter to cut and score it. Then more handling and another pass down a folding/gluing line. When finally handled the last time to be boxed or palletized for shipping you definitively have produced the most expensive component of a box of cereal. The eye catching packaging. And eating the box with some sliced strawberrys and some milk is better than eating most of the cereals sold in that box. /cinnamon toast crunch ftw |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 11:28:37 AM EST
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Potato chips are a rip off unless you get a deal on store brands.
My big grip, at least around here, are the price of nuts. Fucking insane. $10 bag of almonds? $8 bag of cashews? Fuuuuuuuuuuuck yyyyyooouuuuu! |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 11:35:39 AM EST
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Worse, it's all carbs and sugar. Cereal is a big contributor to America's obesity and diabetes epidemic. There is no "reasonable daily portion" of cereal for kids. It's still garbage. Give it to them as rarely as dessert, or candy bars. The food pyramid is dangerously wrong. Try looking at a food label I agree that you shouldn't feed kids shit cereals that are pure sugars. However, stuff that is under 10g of sugar per serving is fine. The biggest contributor to the obesity epidemic is a huge decrease in activity levels of youth and adults due to phones, computers, tv etc. In my experience fat kids are eating stuff way worse than cereal for breakfast (pop tarts, cinnamon rolls) or not eating breakfast at all and gorging for lunch and dinner.
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Posted: 6/5/2016 11:53:18 AM EST
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As have I. I also lost over 100 pounds of fat. Experimented with ketosis in the process but it wasn't necessary. Much easier to just eat whatever I wanted. I eat whatever I want too. Which excludes junk. No need to eat things that work against weightloss. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 12:35:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stupid people buy name brand cereal. Walmart doest own a cereal company, they pay general mill to put their stuff in a Greatvalue box. Same with all other big chains. Bottled water is the biggest rip off. Kids and grand kids leave the empties around my house. I clean them, fill with tap water and put in fridge. Morons cant tell the difference. ( I DO HAVE A ONE MICRON FILTER) Sarbucks is another bullshit rip off . $5 coffee my ass, 99 cents at 7-11 and 2 days a week mine throws in a free donut. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 12:37:54 PM EST
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Actually, I think that boutique bottled water is the biggest scam. Morons spending ridiculous amounts of money on stuff that covers 75% of the world. Fiji is significantly less than 75% of the world. |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 12:41:36 PM EST
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The bigger problem with cereal is that it's about the worst thing you could possibly eat for breakfast. 
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Seriously, $2-4 or even $5 for a box that doesn't even have a pound of flavored corn, wheat or oats. What I'm guessing are the most plentiful grains in the US. I'll stick to eggs. The bigger problem with cereal is that it's about the worst thing you could possibly eat for breakfast.
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Posted: 6/5/2016 12:43:08 PM EST
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Try looking at a food label I agree that you shouldn't feed kids shit cereals that are pure sugars. However, stuff that is under 10g of sugar per serving is fine. The biggest contributor to the obesity epidemic is a huge decrease in activity levels of youth and adults due to phones, computers, tv etc. In my experience fat kids are eating stuff way worse than cereal for breakfast (pop tarts, cinnamon rolls) or not eating breakfast at all and gorging for lunch and dinner.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Worse, it's all carbs and sugar. Cereal is a big contributor to America's obesity and diabetes epidemic. There is no "reasonable daily portion" of cereal for kids. It's still garbage. Give it to them as rarely as dessert, or candy bars. The food pyramid is dangerously wrong. Try looking at a food label I agree that you shouldn't feed kids shit cereals that are pure sugars. However, stuff that is under 10g of sugar per serving is fine. The biggest contributor to the obesity epidemic is a huge decrease in activity levels of youth and adults due to phones, computers, tv etc. In my experience fat kids are eating stuff way worse than cereal for breakfast (pop tarts, cinnamon rolls) or not eating breakfast at all and gorging for lunch and dinner.No one sits down to breakfast as a family anymore. Fucking shame. |
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