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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:22:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryGator never been about that, never been about playing no shit. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:23:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At this point I'm quite sure Russian troops invaded Ukrainian soil. Everything else, I am leery to believe, and unwilling to make any particular claims abut what has or has not happened. Ask me again in 20 years. Maybe we'll know then. Fog of War is real, and in full effect right now. +1 |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:23:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:25:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, a large segment of this place is largely pro Russia and would love for us to be more like Russia. Did you miss the last year where so many were saying they would love to have Putin as president? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So we are pushing the official Russian media propaganda in GD now?  Yes, a large segment of this place is largely pro Russia and would love for us to be more like Russia. Did you miss the last year where so many were saying they would love to have Putin as president? I want the great Ukrainian patriot Samo Hydesky as my president. 
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:27:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its a free for all over there. the avg criminal gangs could be commiting rapes and murders, and everything could be blamed on the russians 
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:27:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: +1 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: At this point I'm quite sure Russian troops invaded Ukrainian soil. Everything else, I am leery to believe, and unwilling to make any particular claims abut what has or has not happened. Ask me again in 20 years. Maybe we'll know then. Fog of War is real, and in full effect right now. +1 Sounds smart until you consider the actual intel available in the form of sat imagery, video, pictures, and 1st hand accounts from people on the ground. We certainly don't know everything, but we know a hell of a lot more than you guys are pretending. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:32:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds smart until you consider the actual intel available in the form of sat imagery, video, pictures, and 1st hand accounts from people on the ground. We certainly don't know everything, but we know a hell of a lot more than you guys are pretending. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: At this point I'm quite sure Russian troops invaded Ukrainian soil. Everything else, I am leery to believe, and unwilling to make any particular claims abut what has or has not happened. Ask me again in 20 years. Maybe we'll know then. Fog of War is real, and in full effect right now. +1 Sounds smart until you consider the actual intel available in the form of sat imagery, video, pictures, and 1st hand accounts from people on the ground. We certainly don't know everything, but we know a hell of a lot more than you guys are pretending. 
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:33:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: At this point I'm quite sure Russian troops invaded Ukrainian soil. Everything else, I am leery to believe, and unwilling to make any particular claims abut what has or has not happened. Ask me again in 20 years. Maybe we'll know then. Fog of War is real, and in full effect right now. +1 Sounds smart until you consider the actual intel available in the form of sat imagery, video, pictures, and 1st hand accounts from people on the ground. We certainly don't know everything, but we know a hell of a lot more than you guys are pretending. https://i.imgflip.com/6bibp8.jpg So? Doesn't prove anything I said wrong, which is that we know a lot more than you guys claim. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:35:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So? Doesn't prove anything I said wrong, which is that we know a lot more than you guys claim. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: At this point I'm quite sure Russian troops invaded Ukrainian soil. Everything else, I am leery to believe, and unwilling to make any particular claims abut what has or has not happened. Ask me again in 20 years. Maybe we'll know then. Fog of War is real, and in full effect right now. +1 Sounds smart until you consider the actual intel available in the form of sat imagery, video, pictures, and 1st hand accounts from people on the ground. We certainly don't know everything, but we know a hell of a lot more than you guys are pretending. https://i.imgflip.com/6bibp8.jpg So? Doesn't prove anything I said wrong, which is that we know a lot more than you guys claim. 
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:36:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: At this point I'm quite sure Russian troops invaded Ukrainian soil. Everything else, I am leery to believe, and unwilling to make any particular claims abut what has or has not happened. Ask me again in 20 years. Maybe we'll know then. Fog of War is real, and in full effect right now. +1 Sounds smart until you consider the actual intel available in the form of sat imagery, video, pictures, and 1st hand accounts from people on the ground. We certainly don't know everything, but we know a hell of a lot more than you guys are pretending. https://i.imgflip.com/6bibp8.jpg So? Doesn't prove anything I said wrong, which is that we know a lot more than you guys claim. https://i.imgflip.com/6bic7s.jpg So? Doesn't prove anything I said wrong, which is that we know a lot more than you guys claim. Try using your words. I believe in you. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:38:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So? Doesn't prove anything I said wrong, which is that we know a lot more than you guys claim. Try using your words. I believe in you. 
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:39:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So? Doesn't prove anything I said wrong, which is that we know a lot more than you guys claim. Try using your words. I believe in you. https://i.imgflip.com/6bicuj.jpg Still not proving anything wrong. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:41:47 PM EDT
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Make that link cold sucka!
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:43:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Soros funded Nazis like Soros funded Antifa,BLM,& prosecutors... But what about the satanic luciferian juggling midgets? |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:43:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still not proving anything wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So? Doesn't prove anything I said wrong, which is that we know a lot more than you guys claim. Try using your words. I believe in you. https://i.imgflip.com/6bicuj.jpg Still not proving anything wrong. I’ll give you that. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:43:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But what about the satanic luciferian juggling midgets? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Soros funded Nazis like Soros funded Antifa,BLM,& prosecutors... But what about the satanic luciferian juggling midgets? I bet they're Masons too |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:45:59 PM EDT
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Dear Russian trolls I just want you to know two things.
1) you are getting paid in roubles 2) after this is all over your daughters will be shoving carrots up their ass for 5 Euros on Pornhub to put food on the table |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:47:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, a large segment of this place is largely pro Russia and would love for us to be more like Russia. Did you miss the last year where so many were saying they would love to have Putin as president? "At least he loves his country!" 
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:48:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ll give you that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So? Doesn't prove anything I said wrong, which is that we know a lot more than you guys claim. Try using your words. I believe in you. https://i.imgflip.com/6bicuj.jpg Still not proving anything wrong. I’ll give you that. Your point, I suppose is that intel can be wrong. I fully agree. However, the posters above said they don't believe ANYTHING beyond the fact that Russia is invading. Again, it sounds smart, but it's not. What we have: -drone imagery -satellite imagery -1st hand account -pictures -videos -captured SIGINT -HUMINT from POWs -HUMINT from civilians -Intel from various governments In and of itself, those things ALONE should be treated with skepticism. However, when you put it all together, and it's all saying the same thing- which is the case with certain things- then you'd have to be an idiot to compare that to previous intel failures where the government was simply saying "trust us bro". With all that info we have above, we can make quite a few determinations with a fair degree of certainty. But not-so smart guys that want to look smart will not be able to grasp that. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:53:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your point, I suppose is that intel can be wrong. I fully agree. However, the posters above said they don't believe ANYTHING beyond the fact that Russia is invading. Again, it sounds smart, but it's not. What we have: -drone imagery -satellite imagery -1st hand account -pictures -videos -captured SIGINT -HUMINT from POWs -HUMINT from civilians -Intel from various governments In and of itself, those things ALONE should be treated with skepticism. However, when you put it all together, and it's all saying the same thing- which is the case with certain things- then you'd have to be an idiot to compare that to previous intel failures where the government was simply saying "trust us bro". With all that info we have above, we can make quite a few determinations with a fair degree of certainty. But not-so smart guys that want to look smart will not be able to grasp that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So? Doesn't prove anything I said wrong, which is that we know a lot more than you guys claim. Try using your words. I believe in you. https://i.imgflip.com/6bicuj.jpg Still not proving anything wrong. I’ll give you that. Your point, I suppose is that intel can be wrong. I fully agree. However, the posters above said they don't believe ANYTHING beyond the fact that Russia is invading. Again, it sounds smart, but it's not. What we have: -drone imagery -satellite imagery -1st hand account -pictures -videos -captured SIGINT -HUMINT from POWs -HUMINT from civilians -Intel from various governments In and of itself, those things ALONE should be treated with skepticism. However, when you put it all together, and it's all saying the same thing- which is the case with certain things- then you'd have to be an idiot to compare that to previous intel failures where the government was simply saying "trust us bro". With all that info we have above, we can make quite a few determinations with a fair degree of certainty. But not-so smart guys that want to look smart will not be able to grasp that. Who is this “we”? You personally have access to the intel? Or are we taking Vicky Nuland’s word for it? |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:54:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who is this “we”? You personally have access to the intel? Or are we taking Vicky Nuland’s word for it? Its 2022 the images are avaliable from commercial satelites. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:54:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who is this “we”? You personally have access to the intel? Or are we taking Vicky Nuland’s word for it? Yes it’s all publicly available. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:54:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your point, I suppose is that intel can be wrong. I fully agree. "wrong intel" propped up by our own state run media apparatus. Why should one trust any position the msm unilaterally espouses as truth? |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:55:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who is this “we”? You personally have access to the intel? Or are we taking Vicky Nuland’s word for it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So? Doesn't prove anything I said wrong, which is that we know a lot more than you guys claim. Try using your words. I believe in you. https://i.imgflip.com/6bicuj.jpg Still not proving anything wrong. I’ll give you that. Your point, I suppose is that intel can be wrong. I fully agree. However, the posters above said they don't believe ANYTHING beyond the fact that Russia is invading. Again, it sounds smart, but it's not. What we have: -drone imagery -satellite imagery -1st hand account -pictures -videos -captured SIGINT -HUMINT from POWs -HUMINT from civilians -Intel from various governments In and of itself, those things ALONE should be treated with skepticism. However, when you put it all together, and it's all saying the same thing- which is the case with certain things- then you'd have to be an idiot to compare that to previous intel failures where the government was simply saying "trust us bro". With all that info we have above, we can make quite a few determinations with a fair degree of certainty. But not-so smart guys that want to look smart will not be able to grasp that. Who is this “we”? You personally have access to the intel? Or are we taking Vicky Nuland’s word for it? We, as in the world that has an internet connection. You can find all these things. They're even posted on this very website. There's about 1,500 pages worth. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:55:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who is this “we”? You personally have access to the intel? Or are we taking Vicky Nuland’s word for it? It's all over twitter bro!! |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:55:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "wrong intel" propped up by our own state run media apparatus. Why should one trust any position the msm unilaterally espouses as truth? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Your point, I suppose is that intel can be wrong. I fully agree. "wrong intel" propped up by our own state run media apparatus. Why should one trust any position the msm unilaterally espouses as truth? You edited the part of my post that answers your question. Why would you do that? |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:56:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "wrong intel" propped up by our own state run media apparatus. Why should one trust any position the msm unilaterally espouses as truth? Us media isn’t state run its state aligned. RT is state run, they say that Russia didn’t do this. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:56:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes it’s all publicly available. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Who is this “we”? You personally have access to the intel? Or are we taking Vicky Nuland’s word for it? Yes it’s all publicly available. Well, you better get to Ukraine then. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:56:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, you better get to Ukraine then. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Who is this “we”? You personally have access to the intel? Or are we taking Vicky Nuland’s word for it? Yes it’s all publicly available. Well, you better get to Ukraine then. Weak logic, weak argument, and irrelevant. You're better than that. Aren't you? |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:57:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weak logic, weak argument, and irrelevant. You're better than that. Aren't you? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Who is this “we”? You personally have access to the intel? Or are we taking Vicky Nuland’s word for it? Yes it’s all publicly available. Well, you better get to Ukraine then. Weak logic, weak argument, and irrelevant. You're better than that. Aren't you? Nope. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:57:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You edited the part of my post that answers your question. Why would you do that? You can't verify the authenticity of any of that "intel." |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:59:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your point, I suppose is that However, the posters above said they don't believe ANYTHING beyond the fact that What we have: - - - - - - - - - In and of itself, those things ALONE should be treated with skepticism. However, when you put it all together, and it's all saying the same thing- which is the case with certain things- then you'd have to be an idiot to compare that to previous intel failures where the government was simply saying "trust us bro". With all that info we have above, we can make quite a few determinations with a fair degree of certainty. But not-so smart guys that want to look smart will not be able to grasp that. I'm trying to figure out where i stand on this. Its hard to think logically when there are dead kids. "they" are trying really hard. they lied to us about covid, about trump, about biden, about literally everything in the last few years. but here we are lapping it all with, and if there is any skepticism its met with fire any fury. GD posts a picture of a 10 year old ukranian girl "i only know what its like to kill communists" and says wow bad ass but the enemy always gets a vote |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 3:59:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Us media isn’t state run its state aligned. RT is state run, they say that Russia didn’t do this. Pretty sure the church committee debooonked that. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:00:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't verify the authenticity of any of that "intel." Terabytes of satelite feeds abd videos is all a CIA hoax. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:01:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Who is this “we”? You personally have access to the intel? Or are we taking Vicky Nuland’s word for it? Yes it’s all publicly available. Well, you better get to Ukraine then. Weak logic, weak argument, and irrelevant. You're better than that. Aren't you? Nope. Fair. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:01:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Terabytes of satelite feeds abd videos is all a CIA hoax. "muh terabytes" |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:02:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't verify the authenticity of any of that "intel." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You edited the part of my post that answers your question. Why would you do that? You can't verify the authenticity of any of that "intel." facepalm. If that's what you think then NO amount of proof is going to convince you. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:02:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fair. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Who is this “we”? You personally have access to the intel? Or are we taking Vicky Nuland’s word for it? Yes it’s all publicly available. Well, you better get to Ukraine then. Weak logic, weak argument, and irrelevant. You're better than that. Aren't you? Nope. Fair. Glad we could work that out. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:03:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm trying to figure out where i stand on this. Its hard to think logically when there are dead kids. "they" are trying really hard. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Your point, I suppose is that However, the posters above said they don't believe ANYTHING beyond the fact that What we have: - - - - - - - - - In and of itself, those things ALONE should be treated with skepticism. However, when you put it all together, and it's all saying the same thing- which is the case with certain things- then you'd have to be an idiot to compare that to previous intel failures where the government was simply saying "trust us bro". With all that info we have above, we can make quite a few determinations with a fair degree of certainty. But not-so smart guys that want to look smart will not be able to grasp that. I'm trying to figure out where i stand on this. Its hard to think logically when there are dead kids. "they" are trying really hard. I forgot to add common sense, which clearly is in short supply. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:05:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty sure the church committee debooonked that. The Church committee did a lot of things, most of them bad. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:06:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I forgot to add common sense, which clearly is in short supply. i'd imagine that waterglass is saying the same thing about common sense. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:06:10 PM EDT
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(Removed, bamned from thread, CoC-6~guns762)
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:08:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i'd imagine that waterglass is saying the same thing about common sense. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I forgot to add common sense, which clearly is in short supply. i'd imagine that waterglass is saying the same thing about common sense. Probably, too bad he's yet to provide anything close to a convincing argument. Also, as far as Covid, it was clear by week 2 that things were not adding up. Government overreach was obvious, and "rules" put in place didn't make sense. There's nothing like that here. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:09:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Church committee did a lot of things, most of them bad. Big fan of the CIA eh? |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:16:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i'd imagine that waterglass is saying the same thing about common sense. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I forgot to add common sense, which clearly is in short supply. i'd imagine that waterglass is saying the same thing about common sense. 
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:19:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Big fan of the CIA eh? Not particularly. But I dislike Democrats and communists even more. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:20:26 PM EDT
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99% of what is getting out is propagandized and exaggerated or just straight up BS. This obviously makes the other 1% pretty suspect as well. Just because RT isn't foaming at the mouth retarded like MSNBC and CNN doesn't mean they aren't full of shit, just that they're better at it.
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:21:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not particularly. But I dislike Democrats and communists even more. So people who like russians and would rather have us roll over and take it in the ass from russia... |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:22:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 99% of what is getting out is propagandized and exaggerated or just straight up BS. This obviously makes the other 1% pretty suspect as well. Just because RT isn't foaming at the mouth retarded like MSNBC and CNN doesn't mean they aren't full of shit, just that they're better at it. If you vpn from russian server into RT it is basically infowars weaponzied autism. |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 4:25:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I forgot to add common sense, which clearly is in short supply. i'd imagine that waterglass is saying the same thing about common sense. https://i.imgflip.com/6biipz.jpg Then make a logical argument. So far the best arguments are "covid was wrong so this is wrong" and "I haven't seen the bodies myself so it's false" Weak. |
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