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Link Posted: 7/15/2020 4:05:03 PM EST
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Lol.  There is nothing wrong with anything in that picture.
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You haven't a clue what you're looking at
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 4:34:16 PM EST
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Can’t give up that death wobble huh?
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Front End Wobble - GMC Yukon / Chevy Tahoe - 1992 - 1999 - Outer Tie Rod End fix
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 4:37:46 PM EST
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You haven't a clue what you're looking at
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Lol.  There is nothing wrong with anything in that picture.

You haven't a clue what you're looking at
I think I do.  Why don't you regale us again with how the only way to lift an IFS front end without changing CV angle is with longer control arms.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 4:40:14 PM EST
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Ford has already released the Jeep owners transition kit for the Bronco:

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Choke yourself!
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 4:41:27 PM EST
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I think I do.  Why don't you regale us again with how the only way to lift an IFS front end without changing CV angle is with longer control arms.
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Holy shit, you're serious

You probably believe lifting IFS is just increasing ride height with taller springs or spring adjustment, don't you?

ETA: I can lay it out for you if you really want to know.

Here's a hint: Imagine if her arms where suspension arms and she had tires connected to her hands-

Link Posted: 7/15/2020 4:52:51 PM EST
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Why can someone not have an opinion, and it be just a opinion? Why do you think I'm sitting here screaming at my phone because of some bullshit on the internet?

Here's the deal, jeep isn't going anywhere, will they lose some sales to the knock off harbor freight version of a jeep? Sure. Will i ever buy one? No. Will this spur jeep to come up with bigger and better? If they want to continue selling Jeeps, absolutley. Competition is great, but don't pretend that ford didn't do some serious copying of jeep, they did, it's blatantly obvious. I particularly don't care, my wife drives a jl, it's a lifted mall crawler. I drive a one owner tj Rubicon on 35s with 85k original miles, it's not a mall crawler. I'm not in the market for anything new until i can get a jt Rubicon, with 6sp manual, and a real diesel, that's not going to happen. So I'll stick to my tj, until i decide to sell it and build my 3rd cj7. You boys can have that knock off shit Ford is building, i really don't care. That's my opinion, its worth what you paid for it...... and i wrote all of that without screaming, or shedding a single tear, no emotion at all.
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I don't think anyone seriously thinks Jeep is going anywhere anytime soon. You are acting though as if Ford is attacking or moving in on Jeeps area with the Bronco. Especially when you claim Ford copied Jeep. It's just pure derp. You Jeep guys should be excited. As a Toyota bro I'm pretty stoked. My hope is Toyota realizes the overlanding/off-roading segment is a huge market and that encourages them to bring some of their stripped down LCs and other similar vehicles that they sell in Australia and other parts of the world to America. If they don't, fine. My plan is by 2022 if Toyota doesn't announce something like that, then I am going to either get a 2-door Bronco or buy a Jeep Gladiator. I'm looking at things like a V8 Jeep, Bronco, and Ram Charger, as a good thing. I've said it before competion drives innovation. No matter what tribe you belong to more options on the market is a good thing for all of us. As consumers we win.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 4:57:29 PM EST
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17 year old rich girl, Casey Currie, Jeep JL forklift flex test
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And the only component on that entire vehicle made by Jeep at that point is the body most likely, maybe the back seat too.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 5:01:06 PM EST
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And the only component on that entire vehicle made by Jeep at that point is the body most likely, maybe the back seat too.
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I don't if anyone has ever told you this before, but, nothing gets past you
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 5:07:31 PM EST
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Sorry.

Looks exactly like a Toyota.


No one who doesn’t care about a “bronco” will ever give a shit
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 5:15:00 PM EST
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I am very jealous
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Costa Rica is worth going to just for the rental mini SUVs and the endless miles of dirt roads.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 5:16:12 PM EST
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Sorry.

Looks exactly like a Toyota.


No one who doesn’t care about a “bronco” will ever give a shit
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Link Posted: 7/15/2020 5:32:13 PM EST
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I have owned 2 04 Rubicons both on 35s, 2012 jk on 35s, 1983 grand wagoneer on 38s, 1985 cj7 on 33s (my avatar), 79 cj7 on 35s, 81 cj7 on 31s, 99 xj on 33s, 01 xj on 33s, 2003 grand Cherokee stock, the wife's current 18 jl on 33s, all 4x4, all lifted, all mud tires, almost all of them wheeled, and not once have i ever experienced death wobble. Wanna know why? It's because i maintain my shit, i don't do half ass lifts in the cheapest way i can do it, i take shit and have it properly aligned after it's correctly modified. Gtfo with the death wobble argument.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 5:34:06 PM EST
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I have owned 2 04 Rubicons both on 35s, 2012 jk on 35s, 1983 grand wagoneer on 38s, 1985 cj7 on 33s (my avatar), 79 cj7 on 35s, 81 cj7 on 31s, 99 xj on 33s, 01 xj on 33s, 2003 grand Cherokee stock, the wife's current 18 jl on 33s, all 4x4, all lifted, all mud tires, almost all of them wheeled, and not once have i ever experienced death wobble. Wanna know why? It's because i maintain my shit, i don't do half ass lifts in the cheapest way i can do it, i take shit and have it properly aligned after it's correctly modified. Gtfo with the death wobble argument.
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Same here. 9 times out of 10 it's the trackbar that needs to be torqued.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 5:36:56 PM EST
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I don't think anyone seriously thinks Jeep is going anywhere anytime soon. You are acting though as if Ford is attacking or moving in on Jeeps area with the Bronco. Especially when you claim Ford copied Jeep. It's just pure derp. You Jeep guys should be excited. As a Toyota bro I'm pretty stoked. My hope is Toyota realizes the overlanding/off-roading segment is a huge market and that encourages them to bring some of their stripped down LCs and other similar vehicles that they sell in Australia and other parts of the world to America. If they don't, fine. My plan is by 2022 if Toyota doesn't announce something like that, then I am going to either get a 2-door Bronco or buy a Jeep Gladiator. I'm looking at things like a V8 Jeep, Bronco, and Ram Charger, as a good thing. I've said it before competion drives innovation. No matter what tribe you belong to more options on the market is a good thing for all of us. As consumers we win.
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Go back and read the first line of my second paragraph, we agree home boy.

Doesn't change the fact ferd took a shit ton of "inspiration" from Jeep, especially with the four for model.
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 6:03:36 PM EST
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Does this one trigger you too
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No, looks like a Jeep owner with a decent amount of cash to spend to try and get other Jeep owners jealous and himself noticed.

Punisher sticker somewhere on there ?
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 6:13:33 PM EST
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Oooohhh...can I play?




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Link Posted: 7/15/2020 6:23:44 PM EST
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:like:
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 6:34:18 PM EST
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You win
Link Posted: 7/15/2020 7:06:49 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/15/2020 7:11:15 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/15/2020 7:36:06 PM EST
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And the only component on that entire vehicle made by Jeep at that point is the body most likely, maybe the back seat too.
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And the only component on that entire vehicle made by Jeep at that point is the body most likely, maybe the back seat too.


Actually, jeep doesn’t make components. Jeep assembles components.
Link Posted: 7/16/2020 11:17:52 AM EST
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No, looks like a Jeep owner with a decent amount of cash to spend to try and get other Jeep owners jealous and himself noticed.

Punisher sticker somewhere on there ?
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Well, there it is

You're definitely not familiar with off road.



Link Posted: 7/16/2020 11:18:11 AM EST
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REEEEEEE
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Another triggered
Link Posted: 7/16/2020 2:22:45 PM EST
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I don't think anyone seriously thinks Jeep is going anywhere anytime soon. You are acting though as if Ford is attacking or moving in on Jeeps area with the Bronco. Especially when you claim Ford copied Jeep. It's just pure derp. You Jeep guys should be excited. As a Toyota bro I'm pretty stoked. My hope is Toyota realizes the overlanding/off-roading segment is a huge market and that encourages them to bring some of their stripped down LCs and other similar vehicles that they sell in Australia and other parts of the world to America. If they don't, fine. My plan is by 2022 if Toyota doesn't announce something like that, then I am going to either get a 2-door Bronco or buy a Jeep Gladiator. I'm looking at things like a V8 Jeep, Bronco, and Ram Charger, as a good thing. I've said it before competion drives innovation. No matter what tribe you belong to more options on the market is a good thing for all of us. As consumers we win.
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Why can someone not have an opinion, and it be just a opinion? Why do you think I'm sitting here screaming at my phone because of some bullshit on the internet?

Here's the deal, jeep isn't going anywhere, will they lose some sales to the knock off harbor freight version of a jeep? Sure. Will i ever buy one? No. Will this spur jeep to come up with bigger and better? If they want to continue selling Jeeps, absolutley. Competition is great, but don't pretend that ford didn't do some serious copying of jeep, they did, it's blatantly obvious. I particularly don't care, my wife drives a jl, it's a lifted mall crawler. I drive a one owner tj Rubicon on 35s with 85k original miles, it's not a mall crawler. I'm not in the market for anything new until i can get a jt Rubicon, with 6sp manual, and a real diesel, that's not going to happen. So I'll stick to my tj, until i decide to sell it and build my 3rd cj7. You boys can have that knock off shit Ford is building, i really don't care. That's my opinion, its worth what you paid for it...... and i wrote all of that without screaming, or shedding a single tear, no emotion at all.



I don't think anyone seriously thinks Jeep is going anywhere anytime soon. You are acting though as if Ford is attacking or moving in on Jeeps area with the Bronco. Especially when you claim Ford copied Jeep. It's just pure derp. You Jeep guys should be excited. As a Toyota bro I'm pretty stoked. My hope is Toyota realizes the overlanding/off-roading segment is a huge market and that encourages them to bring some of their stripped down LCs and other similar vehicles that they sell in Australia and other parts of the world to America. If they don't, fine. My plan is by 2022 if Toyota doesn't announce something like that, then I am going to either get a 2-door Bronco or buy a Jeep Gladiator. I'm looking at things like a V8 Jeep, Bronco, and Ram Charger, as a good thing. I've said it before competion drives innovation. No matter what tribe you belong to more options on the market is a good thing for all of us. As consumers we win.


70 series for the win.

Would take a Workmate or GXL over my TRDP today!
Link Posted: 7/16/2020 2:25:05 PM EST
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Another triggered
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REEEEEEE

Another triggered

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Link Posted: 7/16/2020 2:29:08 PM EST
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That gif is so good
Link Posted: 7/16/2020 4:29:12 PM EST
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Are you citing videos of two 30+ year old vehicles with admittedly worn out suspensions as justification for why it’s okay for POS Wranglers to have death wobble straight off the dealership lot?  I know that can’t be the case, because that’s real retarded, Sir.
Link Posted: 7/16/2020 4:38:13 PM EST
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Meh...like he said...it’s easy to make something what you want it to be if you throw enough money at it. Here’s an old coworkers supercharged 4Runner is take any day over a Joops.

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Link Posted: 7/16/2020 5:22:05 PM EST
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Meh...like he said...it’s easy to make something what you want it to be if you throw enough money at it. Here’s an old coworkers supercharged 4Runner is take any day over a Joops.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2980/F5CF410E-4E1D-40DA-8D03-F2EA47DF4F42_jpe-1506589.JPG

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The thing about 4 runners is they need a ton of lift to clear average sized Jeep jk/Jl tires of 35-37”. Just look at the 4Runner, probably 8” of lift and it’s super top heavy. And it has a solid axle swap. A lightly modified rubicon 4dr would destroy that thing off road.
Link Posted: 7/16/2020 5:37:54 PM EST
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The thing about 4 runners is they need a ton of lift to clear average sized Jeep jk/Jl tires of 35-37”. Just look at the 4Runner, probably 8” of lift and it’s super top heavy. And it has a solid axle swap. A lightly modified rubicon 4dr would destroy that thing off road.
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Meh...like he said...it’s easy to make something what you want it to be if you throw enough money at it. Here’s an old coworkers supercharged 4Runner is take any day over a Joops.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2980/F5CF410E-4E1D-40DA-8D03-F2EA47DF4F42_jpe-1506589.JPG

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The thing about 4 runners is they need a ton of lift to clear average sized Jeep jk/Jl tires of 35-37”. Just look at the 4Runner, probably 8” of lift and it’s super top heavy. And it has a solid axle swap. A lightly modified rubicon 4dr would destroy that thing off road.


Yeah but muh 4runner
Link Posted: 7/16/2020 5:46:04 PM EST
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This thread got extra retarded...even by GD standards.
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Are you citing videos of two 30+ year old vehicles with admittedly worn out suspensions as justification for why it’s okay for POS Wranglers to have death wobble straight off the dealership lot?  I know that can’t be the case, because that’s real retarded, Sir.
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What's real retarded is you couldn't see what I posted.
Link Posted: 7/16/2020 6:49:46 PM EST
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Meh...like he said...it’s easy to make something what you want it to be if you throw enough money at it. Here’s an old coworkers supercharged 4Runner is take any day over a Joops.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2980/F5CF410E-4E1D-40DA-8D03-F2EA47DF4F42_jpe-1506589.JPG

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That 4Runner isn't even close to the performance of the Jeep I posted and there wasn't no ton of money thrown at the Jeep.
That 4Runner is heavily modified with a solid axle to boot
And "Joops" haha so funny
Link Posted: 7/16/2020 6:51:07 PM EST
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The thing about 4 runners is they need a ton of lift to clear average sized Jeep jk/Jl tires of 35-37”. Just look at the 4Runner, probably 8” of lift and it’s super top heavy. And it has a solid axle swap. A lightly modified rubicon 4dr would destroy that thing off road.
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The dude's condescending reply only shows he hasn't a clue about shit
Link Posted: 7/16/2020 7:10:22 PM EST
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Damn. Jeep bro, you still at it?

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Link Posted: 7/16/2020 7:23:02 PM EST
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Damn the Jeep tards in this thread are as bad if not worse than the Tundra tards were a couple years ago on here. I say that as someone considering buying a 4 door Rubicon after the 2021's come out in August
Link Posted: 7/16/2020 7:26:55 PM EST
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Damn the Jeep tards in this thread are as bad if not worse than the Tundra tards were a couple years ago on here. I say that as someone considering buying a 4 door Rubicon after the 2021's come out in August
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Seriously. I like my Jeep. My second one. But damn do I hate some Jeep tards.

"Ooohhh. Look at all my cool bolt on crap, bra."
Link Posted: 7/16/2020 7:33:06 PM EST
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Whenever you guys are done, I will commence the 4Runner crying room since this one went over so well. We can probably go 20 plus on that one.
Link Posted: 7/16/2020 7:33:40 PM EST
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For those that have bought recently, what kind of deals were you able to pull? I see the 4 door Rubi's auto V6's anywhere from right at 60k to 55k dealer price with the usual "contact us for todays or our best price" schtick.

What's the average anyone has been able to get them down especially if were walking in with no trade and financing pre approved unless they can beat it before the games start?
Link Posted: 7/16/2020 7:34:15 PM EST
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Whenever you guys are done, I will commence the 4Runner crying room since this one went over so well. We can probably go 20 plus on that one.
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Link Posted: 7/16/2020 7:36:04 PM EST
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For those that have bought recently, what kind of deals were you able to pull? I see the 4 door Rubi's auto V6's anywhere from right at 60k to 55k dealer price with the usual "contact us for todays or our best price" schtick.

What's the average anyone has been able to get them down especially if were walking in with no trade and financing pre approved before the games start?
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Volume dealers typically list theirs around 10% under whatever you Price out on the jeep page. If you go to the Jl forums there is a list of dealers in various states.
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For those that have bought recently, what kind of deals were you able to pull? I see the 4 door Rubi's auto V6's anywhere from right at 60k to 55k dealer price with the usual "contact us for todays or our best price" schtick.

What's the average anyone has been able to get them down especially if were walking in with no trade and financing pre approved unless they can beat it before the games start?
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We bought a bone stock 2016 JKU two years ago with 8k miles for $36k.

It however is not stock now. We do however go to Moab quite often. So it actually does jeep type stuff.

Never had death wobble either.
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Great photo op, they are all lined up waiting !!!

If a Jeep had a dick, a Jeepbro would suck it lol
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Great photo op, they are all lined up waiting !!!

If a Jeep had a dick, a Jeepbro would suck it lol
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Great photo op, they are all lined up waiting !!!

If a Jeep had a dick, a Jeepbro would suck it lol

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We’re already here.

Most of us are excited as it should put pressure on Toyota.

Link Posted: 7/16/2020 9:05:30 PM EST
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For those that have bought recently, what kind of deals were you able to pull? I see the 4 door Rubi's auto V6's anywhere from right at 60k to 55k dealer price with the usual "contact us for todays or our best price" schtick.

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They we’re making deals in April.

54k was the best I could find.

Not sure if today.
Link Posted: 7/16/2020 9:29:13 PM EST
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I have a 2005 Wrangler Unlimited (one of the last of the long two 2 doors).  Less than 50K miles.  Never has a top on.  I only take it out on nice days in the summer.  I don't believe I have ever needed 4WD (Engage it twice a year to be sure it still works).  

This vehicle brings me joy!

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Yep. Toyota bro here. I'm stoked for the new Bronco. I hope Ford sells the shit out of them to the point Toyota, Nissan, Suzuki and Mitsubishi jump into the segment. All four of those manufactures make some bad ass vehicles that they sell all over the world but don't sell here. I'd love to see more options in this market segment.

Hell I'd like to see GM offer something like 2 door Tahoe again. By all accounts their ZR2 Colorado is a solid performer off road. Make a "Jimmy" under the GMC name with the same ZR2 set up.
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Is this where I insert the crown vic at MOAB video?
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I have a 2005 Wrangler Unlimited (one of the last of the long two 2 doors).  Less than 50K miles.  Never has a top on.  I only take it out on nice days in the summer.  I don't believe I have ever needed 4WD (Engage it twice a year to be sure it still works).  

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You should sell it to someone more deserving.
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