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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:41:10 PM EST
[#1]
Chess bitches
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:41:26 PM EST
[#2]
In no way is that constitutional. At all.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:42:55 PM EST
[#3]
Ohhhhh Canada
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:45:13 PM EST
[#4]
That needs to be appealed.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:47:45 PM EST
[#5]
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Scariest ruling I've seen in a long time. Shocked no one cares about this. This has implications far beyond guns. The Judge doesnt even cite SCOTUS ruling in Horne v. Dept of Agriculture from 2015 that says private property cant be physically taken for any reason. If the government can take any property they deem dangerous, we have no property rights. This is the first time the federal government has really made people destroy or turn in property. I hope this is appealed or we are all screwed. https://www.newsweek.com/bump-stock-ban-lawsuit-dismissed-1467834 
Shirley the dems won't abuse that when they get back in power someday............... |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:48:10 PM EST
[#6]
WOW! That's a stunning decision.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:49:16 PM EST
[#7]
Then don’t give the government your property.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:50:43 PM EST
[#8]
THIS is what really starts a civil war.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:50:46 PM EST
[#9]
I find this unsurprising.....
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:50:54 PM EST
[#10]
Our constitution is nothing but a piece of paper. Gov does what they want. Oh, they throw us a bone sometimes (as in winning our case), but it's all show. Eventually, we'll wind up like Cuba, or China. It takes time, another hundred years perhaps, but the handwriting is on the wall.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:51:11 PM EST
[#11]
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Then don’t give the government your property. “Bumpstock? What’s a bumpstock, Ossifer?” |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:51:34 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep,scary part wasn't the Bumpstocks,but they way they were banned.
Shirley the dems won't abuse that when they get back in power someday............... |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:51:56 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. "Bumpstock? What's a bumpstock, Ossifer?" |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:53:27 PM EST
[#14]
However, Senior Circuit Judge Loren A. Smith found that the government's rule fell within a common exception to the Fifth Amendment: property that is confiscated to advance the government's interest in promoting public safety.
"The law is different in this case because the government, as the sovereign, has the power to take property that is dangerous, diseased, or used in criminal activities without compensation," Smith wrote. "Here, ATF acted properly within the confines of the limited federal police power." A hole so big you could drive a truck through. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:54:04 PM EST
[#15]
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Our constitution is nothing but a piece of paper. Gov does what they want. Oh, they throw us a bone sometimes (as in winning our case), but it's all show. Eventually, we'll wind up like Cuba, or China. It takes time, another hundred years perhaps, but the handwriting is on the wall. Seems to be accelerating,so I think it will be much sooner than 100 yrs.............. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:54:38 PM EST
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"[Senior Circuit Judge] Loren A. Smith was appointed a judge of the United States Court of Federal Claims by President Ronald Reagan on July 11, 1985, and entered duty on September 12, 1985. He was designated Chief Judge on January 14, 1986, also by President Reagan. After serving 15 years as Chief Judge, Judge Smith took senior status on July 10, 2000. "
I guess the Hughs Amendment wasn't sufficient. I was fully expecting him to be an Obama appointee. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:55:26 PM EST
[#17]
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However, Senior Circuit Judge Loren A. Smith found that the government's rule fell within a common exception to the Fifth Amendment: property that is confiscated to advance the government's interest in promoting public safety. "The law is different in this case because the government, as the sovereign, has the power to take property that is dangerous, diseased, or used in criminal activities without compensation," Smith wrote. "Here, ATF acted properly within the confines of the limited federal police power." A hole so big you could drive a truck through. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:56:07 PM EST
[#18]
Insurance paid me off on my boating accident
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:58:21 PM EST
[#19]
It was just a range toy.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 9:59:04 PM EST
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Then don’t give the government your property.
No ticky, no laundry |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 10:04:01 PM EST
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Posted: 10/25/2019 10:11:02 PM EST
[#22]
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Shirley the Supreme Court will save us.............. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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However, Senior Circuit Judge Loren A. Smith found that the government's rule fell within a common exception to the Fifth Amendment: property that is confiscated to advance the government's interest in promoting public safety. "The law is different in this case because the government, as the sovereign, has the power to take property that is dangerous, diseased, or used in criminal activities without compensation," Smith wrote. "Here, ATF acted properly within the confines of the limited federal police power." A hole so big you could drive a truck through. 
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Posted: 10/25/2019 10:12:19 PM EST
[#23]
"Cold, dead, hands" comes to mind.
Motion Love bitches |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 10:14:26 PM EST
[#24]
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In no way is that constitutional. At all. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 10:16:19 PM EST
[#25]
Don’t give up shit , no need for compensation. See how easy this is ?
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Posted: 10/25/2019 10:28:47 PM EST
[#26]
It's the law. I will abide by it. And I will be thankful for those who will enforce it.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 10:32:16 PM EST
[#27]
Throw your bumpstock away and just make your AR legit full auto. Might as well. Same charge.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 10:32:19 PM EST
[#28]
What about gold in the early 1930's?
I would imagine that the fed govt calling in all the gold in circulation would've been a little more alarming than not reimbursing for bump stocks. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 10:34:36 PM EST
[#29]
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It would be better to keep a DIAS or swiftlink.... |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 10:38:56 PM EST
[#30]
Something something COC something something
MBracken......COC Liberty Tree Water |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 10:42:12 PM EST
[#31]
So where are we on the CoC?
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Posted: 10/25/2019 10:43:11 PM EST
[#32]
Same ruling will be applied if Betacuck Fake Messican Bobby O'Rourke or any Demmunist gets into Congress and passes the mandatory gun buy back laws, the law will still stand, weapons will be required to be turned in for destruction, but no compensation will be given.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 10:52:22 PM EST
[#33]
Quote History |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:02:22 PM EST
[#34]
It's going to be awkward someday when they push too far and cities across America turn into what Mexico looked like last week. I don't want that. But I also don't want the worse evil of the Left's absolute tyranny and incoming famine and genocide if they took all power and took our most important rights away. It's shitty. Why can't they just stop and not ruin a good thing? ...
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:05:46 PM EST
[#35]
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In no way is that constitutional. At all. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:06:59 PM EST
[#36]
No doubt it will be appealed.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:09:45 PM EST
[#37]
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Throw your bumpstock away and just make your AR legit full auto. Might as well. Same charge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Throw your bumpstock away and just make your AR legit full auto. Might as well. Same charge. Quoted:
So where are we on the CoC? 
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:14:04 PM EST
[#38]
So by that legal logic, a hypothetical president Puto wouldn't have to "buy" them "back" at all; just take them.
Yeah, that booger loop is looking more and more likely... |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:19:46 PM EST
[#39]
Kick it up to a higher court..
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:21:30 PM EST
[#40]
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It's the law. I will abide by it. And I will be thankful for those who will enforce it.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:22:07 PM EST
[#41]
People don't care because it doesn't cause them any grief.
Need to take away peoples homes and food. Food first. They'll get the message then. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:26:18 PM EST
[#42]
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Our constitution is nothing but a piece of paper. Gov does what they want. Oh, they throw us a bone sometimes (as in winning our case), but it's all show. Eventually, we'll wind up like Cuba, or China. It takes time, another hundred years perhaps, but the handwriting is on the wall. Americans have made their values known, and Freedom isn't at the top of the heap. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:34:23 PM EST
[#43]
How unexpected
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:46:34 PM EST
[#44]
This is nothing unexpected honestly. I predicted they would say this months ago.
There's precedent for using the police power to avoid compensating people. |
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:56:46 PM EST
[#45]
If history was still taught in publick skewls peepil wood remiber, “ The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants”.
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Posted: 10/25/2019 11:58:06 PM EST
[#46]
Obama appointee?
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Posted: 10/26/2019 12:00:59 AM EST
[#47]
time to buy more ammo
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Posted: 10/26/2019 12:12:56 AM EST
[#48]
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However, Senior Circuit Judge Loren A. Smith found that the government's rule fell within a common exception to the Fifth Amendment: property that is confiscated to advance the government's interest in promoting public safety. "The law is different in this case because the government, as the sovereign, has the power to take property that is dangerous, diseased, or used in criminal activities without compensation," Smith wrote. "Here, ATF acted properly within the confines of the limited federal police power." A hole so big you could drive a truck through. Tyrants want your guns so that they can do tyrannical things. Never forget it. |
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Posted: 10/26/2019 12:15:13 AM EST
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Posted: 10/26/2019 12:16:39 AM EST
[#50]
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That's the total bullshit of it. There is no public safety exception to the Second Amendment. Nor is safety actually a concern, as bump stocks are almost never used in crimes. Tyrants want your guns so that they can do tyrannical things. Never forget it. |
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