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Quoted: His username is 2gACM. You are asking me to do your own homework?  Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Read the thread last night and that guy Karl just could not denounce pedophilia. Link is in the OP, then start reading at page 32. I'm keeping an open mind but need specific evidence. His username is 2gACM. You are asking me to do your own homework? TYVM for giving much better directions. |
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Quoted: TYVM for giving much better directions. Quoted: TYVM for giving much better directions. Lol you went from I understand that there are some folks who feel threatened by remarks which contradict the majority mind-set. To asking for a link to the thread, and then asking for directions on how to read the thread 
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Quoted: Honest question. If you don't denounce racism are you then a racist? I personally don't buy into that statement. I believe that the "Silence Is Acceptance" folks go way too far and betray their totalitarian mind-set in saying so. YMMV |
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Quoted: Lol you went from To asking for a link to the thread, and then asking for directions on how to read the thread Quoted: Quoted: TYVM for giving much better directions. Lol you went from I understand that there are some folks who feel threatened by remarks which contradict the majority mind-set. To asking for a link to the thread, and then asking for directions on how to read the thread Giving good directions in uncommon, hence my request. |
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Quoted: You can’t organize a mob. The disorganization is the charm of a mob. If you organize it, it’s more of a posse. Maybe a squad, or a crew, depending on size and motivation level. Quoted: Quoted: Nope. That is your choice and you are free to say so. It's the organizing a mob that I don't particularly care for. You can’t organize a mob. The disorganization is the charm of a mob. If you organize it, it’s more of a posse. Maybe a squad, or a crew, depending on size and motivation level. Lol. Well played. |
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Quoted: Karl likes Satan and hates Christians I disagree with the principles of socialism Even though I disagree with socialism and think it has accounted for millions if not billions of unjustified and unneeded deaths, I don't think anyone here said that Karl should have his 1A or 2A rights stripped because he is a satanist loving commie who hangs out with creeps Karl very much played victim here and on his social media. He flat said here that I was a threat to queer people. This is a guy whose followers will dog pile anyone not in lock step with the hive and multiple people have said edits or bans people on his social media. |
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Quoted: Well, Space-Cadet "invited" me here by an "@", so who am I to ignore a polite "invitation"? I understand that there are some folks who feel threatened by remarks which contradict the majority mind-set. That's the way it goes. Threatened uh huh...if you mean taking a thread over and making it all about you; and endlessly trying to get the last word in - as evidenced in the last one for like 15 pages; then yeah, I'm quaking in my boots. It's already begun in this one; and I'm sure nobody will meet your objective and irrefutable proof standards. |
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Quoted: Karl likes Satan and hates Christians I disagree with the principles of socialism Even though I disagree with socialism and think it has accounted for millions if not billions of unjustified and unneeded deaths, I don't think anyone here said that Karl should have his 1A or 2A rights stripped because he is a satanist loving commie who hangs out with creeps I don’t think anyone in that thread was arguing for denying his 2a rights. The question was asked of KE arms as to why they would partner with a socialist, and the implication was made that by doing so, they are purposely marketing to socialists. They then used “the 2a is for everyone why do you support stripping people of their rights because they disagree with you” as a straw man argument to attack instead of answering the question. |
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Quoted: Way too much information to condense. Take a few minutes and try to read through. Quoted: Quoted: I wasn't really following that thread. What was it about? Cliff notes? Way too much information to condense. Take a few minutes and try to read through. I just finished that thread.....it went right on off the rails and over the cliff at warp speed. |
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Quoted: Threatened uh huh...if you mean taking a thread over and making it all about you; and endlessly trying to get the last word in - as evidenced in the last one for like 15 pages; then yeah, I'm quaking in my boots. It's already begun in this one; and I'm sure nobody will meet your objective and irrefutable proof standards. Much legit and demonstrable info contained in previous thread concerning Karl. All of which I was ignorant, since I don't follow such folks. |
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Quoted: Maybe asking folks to meet reasonable standards of proof is beyond them. If so, then don't make the allegation if it can't be proved. I don’t think there’s ever been a better “proven” argument on Arfcom about Internet personalities and agendas than FloridaCop’s work in that thread. |
Here was him indirectly calling for his followers to brigade
He then posted that this is a hate site, and then after he posted this
Gee, I wonder what the self described anarchist with pinko followers wants his followers to do with this information |
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Quoted: I don't think there's ever been a better "proven" argument on Arfcom about Internet personalities and agendas than FloridaCop's work in that thread. Quoted: Quoted: Maybe asking folks to meet reasonable standards of proof is beyond them. If so, then don't make the allegation if it can't be proved. I don't think there's ever been a better "proven" argument on Arfcom about Internet personalities and agendas than FloridaCop's work in that thread. |
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Quoted: Here was him indirectly calling for his followers to brigade
He then posted that this is a hate site, and then after he posted this
Gee, I wonder what the self described anarchist with pinko followers wants his followers to do with this information no man, he doesn't say to shut them down. He doesn't say to brigade and DDOS. He is just sharing the facts. Why are you reading between the lines. This is rediculous. This wouldn't stand in a court of law. That's just your opinion. Maybe he was just sharing information about his industry partner. When he said it's a hate site, what he really meant was a site he hates to love. There's not a legal definition for hate. Maybe your inflammatory language calling him a pinko is accellerationism and we just need to accept him. That ought to cover all the bases. |
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For fuck's sake. |
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It's ironic that the self described anarchist who's supposedly anti authoritarian wants an authority figure to remove websites critical of him (which he's done before), as well as sue for libel. He also seems to want punishment for hate speech. Very anti authoritarian. |
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Quoted: His username is 2gACM. You are asking me to do your own homework? That's his schtick. If you don't have the most iron clad bestest "proof" of whatever it is then he can contort his way out of making the simple direct line connections just about everyone else can. |
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Quoted: You’re not wrong, but talking shit about him on a forum is hardly doing anything. Seems like more pointless internet drama. "Talking shit", perhaps not. But I've learned a whole lot about who people really are in these threads and the accumulation of data that has occurred within them. That knowledge is useful. |
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Quoted: Tried, but too much bloviating there. Pls give better directions/linkage. Perhaps to specific poster (or post #) on that page. I'm keeping an open mind but need specific evidence. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Read the thread last night and that guy Karl just could not denounce pedophilia. Link is in the OP, then start reading at page 32. I'm keeping an open mind but need specific evidence. Just read it. |
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Quoted: You wonder why I hammered him so hard and picked apart his words. Sometimes if it walks like a duck, quacks like one, and waddles like one, it's just a duck. Quoted: Quoted: For fuck's sake. You wonder why I hammered him so hard and picked apart his words. Sometimes if it walks like a duck, quacks like one, and waddles like one, it's just a duck. Defending the beliefs and statements of pinkos is an act in and of itself. Going to bat for someone repeatedly after they are extremely vocal about their beliefs, and you defend those beliefs, is worthy of judgment itself. It shows where your beliefs are as well if you won't condemn the beliefs/statements of that person. |
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Quoted: That's socialization, which is inculcating behaviors and beliefs that will equip a child to be healthy, happy, and have a successful and productive life. Grooming is psychological manipulation and gaslighting that leaves someone vulnerable to abuse, for example Desmond Is (not) Amazing was groomed to be a 10 year old bachi bazi dancing suggestively for adult men while performatively sniffing ketamine. I can see the similarities to taking a child to Sunday School. * *Note - This is sarcasm. |
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I'm still disappointed we didn't to go to the logical conclusion of some of the beliefs espoused. Apparently no government should be able to dictate what a child is exposed to -- whether it be R rated movies, drag shows, or church. That's only up to the parents, apparently. But physical exploitation of the child is clearly wrong, because of the established age of consent. But who is responsible for setting agreed upon age of consent? |
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Quoted: That's socialization, which is inculcating behaviors and beliefs that will equip a child to be healthy, happy, and have a successful and productive life. Grooming is psychological manipulation and gaslighting that leaves someone vulnerable to abuse, for example Desmond Is (not) Amazing was groomed to be a 10 year old bachi bazi dancing suggestively for adult men while performatively sniffing ketamine. @eesmith That's the best, most succinct, definition/difference I've come across yet. I'm sending that to a couple of my friends. |
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Quoted: no man, he doesn't say to shut them down. He doesn't say to brigade and DDOS. He is just sharing the facts. Why are you reading between the lines. This is rediculous. This wouldn't stand in a court of law. That's just your opinion. Maybe he was just sharing information about his industry partner. When he said it's a hate site, what he really meant was a site he hates to love. There's not a legal definition for hate. Maybe your inflammatory language calling him a pinko is accellerationism and we just need to accept him. That ought to cover all the bases. Quoted: Quoted: Here was him indirectly calling for his followers to brigade
He then posted that this is a hate site, and then after he posted this
Gee, I wonder what the self described anarchist with pinko followers wants his followers to do with this information no man, he doesn't say to shut them down. He doesn't say to brigade and DDOS. He is just sharing the facts. Why are you reading between the lines. This is rediculous. This wouldn't stand in a court of law. That's just your opinion. Maybe he was just sharing information about his industry partner. When he said it's a hate site, what he really meant was a site he hates to love. There's not a legal definition for hate. Maybe your inflammatory language calling him a pinko is accellerationism and we just need to accept him. That ought to cover all the bases. This could be an attempt to divert sales from Brownells ((IIRC) owners of Arfcom) to KE Arms. I don't know of any financial arrangement between Karl (et al) concerning sales of KE Arms items. FWIW, KE Arms is in the midst of a lawsuit concerning their WWSD polymer lowers. Having read about it, I support KE Arms (as with any legit firearms mfr) in their legal response to the Anti-gunners trying to sue them out of existence. |
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Quoted: I'm still disappointed we didn't to go to the logical conclusion of some of the beliefs espoused. Apparently no government should be able to dictate what a child is exposed to -- whether it be R rated movies, drag shows, or church. That's only up to the parents, apparently. But physical exploitation of the child is clearly wrong, because of the established age of consent. But who is responsible for setting agreed upon age of consent? |
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Quoted: Defending the beliefs and statements of pinkos is an act in and of itself. Going to bat for someone repeatedly after they are extremely vocal about their beliefs, and you defend those beliefs, is worthy of judgment itself. It shows where your beliefs are as well if you won't condemn the beliefs/statements of that person. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For fuck's sake. You wonder why I hammered him so hard and picked apart his words. Sometimes if it walks like a duck, quacks like one, and waddles like one, it's just a duck. Defending the beliefs and statements of pinkos is an act in and of itself. Going to bat for someone repeatedly after they are extremely vocal about their beliefs, and you defend those beliefs, is worthy of judgment itself. It shows where your beliefs are as well if you won't condemn the beliefs/statements of that person. Have said multiple times that I reject some of Karl's comments/actions. Why my comments are so disturbing to some is interesting. Intolerance of dissenting remarks is typical of Antifa and similar totalitarian groups. |
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Quoted: Karl's comments against Brownells seem to mitigate against his personal financial interests. IIRC, Karl (and Ian) get a "cut" of WWSD rifles sold at Brownells site; unsure of WWSD lowers and such. This could be an attempt to divert sales from Brownells ((IIRC) owners of Arfcom) to KE Arms. I don't know of any financial arrangement between Karl (et al) concerning sales of KE Arms items. FWIW, KE Arms is in the midst of a lawsuit concerning their WWSD polymer lowers. Having read about it, I support KE Arms (as with any legit firearms mfr) in their legal response to the Anti-gunners trying to sue them out of existence. I'm a little unclear about Karl's business arrangement with Brownells but I'm wondering why one still exists at this point. I looked at their Reddit sub a bit and it's very small with some pretty ummm niche content. GD has more people online at any given moment then the entirety of their subs membership. Why would they want to maintain that? They can't be making much money off of it. |
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Quoted: I don't want to put words into his mouth, but he sounds like a typical Anarcho-communist. They believe in the abolition of traditional authority in exchange for a stateless, classless, worker's collective of decision making. Yes, that is ultimately an oxymoron. Ancoms aren't very smart. You saw how well CHAZ ended up working. That's their utopian society in practice. Quoted: Quoted: I'm still disappointed we didn't to go to the logical conclusion of some of the beliefs espoused. Apparently no government should be able to dictate what a child is exposed to -- whether it be R rated movies, drag shows, or church. That's only up to the parents, apparently. But physical exploitation of the child is clearly wrong, because of the established age of consent. But who is responsible for setting agreed upon age of consent? I tend to think that a person’s ideological identity is window dressing for deep personal interests that they can’t openly express. I believe that because every time a communist revolution takes place what actually happens is rape, genocide and the intentional imposition of privation in order to use the fear of starvation and violence to gain compliance. A lot of people get off on dominating, hurting and murdering innocent people because it’s fun for them. The reactionary responses to Karl stem from the fact that a lot of people intuitively understand what anarchists and communists are actually motivated by under their rhetoric. I actually respect RAFs objectivity. It’s the just and moral approach. |
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Quoted: I'm a little unclear about Karl's business arrangement with Brownells but I'm wondering why one still exists at this point. I looked at their Reddit sub a bit and it's very small with some pretty ummm niche content. GD has more people online at any given moment then the entirety of their subs membership. Why would they want to maintain that? They can't be making much money off of it. Quoted: Quoted: Karl's comments against Brownells seem to mitigate against his personal financial interests. IIRC, Karl (and Ian) get a "cut" of WWSD rifles sold at Brownells site; unsure of WWSD lowers and such. This could be an attempt to divert sales from Brownells ((IIRC) owners of Arfcom) to KE Arms. I don't know of any financial arrangement between Karl (et al) concerning sales of KE Arms items. FWIW, KE Arms is in the midst of a lawsuit concerning their WWSD polymer lowers. Having read about it, I support KE Arms (as with any legit firearms mfr) in their legal response to the Anti-gunners trying to sue them out of existence. I'm a little unclear about Karl's business arrangement with Brownells but I'm wondering why one still exists at this point. I looked at their Reddit sub a bit and it's very small with some pretty ummm niche content. GD has more people online at any given moment then the entirety of their subs membership. Why would they want to maintain that? They can't be making much money off of it. I have no idea about any $ amounts of this, so not repeating any solid figures. Brownell's, KE Arms, and Karl (et al) may be under contract with regards WWSD products, so it may be, or may not be, a question of one or the other can abrogate the contract unilaterally. Depends on how the contract was written. As mentioned before, I fully support KE Arms in their defense against fully BS anti-gunner lawsuits. Any attack against a lawful firearms company is an attack against them all. |
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I still remember the butthurt brigade getting mad whenever someone said that the WWSD KE Arms rifles weren't of interest to them, same for their lowers. And I have noticed that none of them are positing in this thread, especially one who was trying to push them on us Good to see that KE Arms is off this site now. I used to follow sinistral until he let himself be known to be a communist supporter. I am very disappointed with him. |
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Quoted: I tend to think that a person's ideological identity is window dressing for deep personal interests that they can't openly express. I believe that because every time a communist revolution takes place what actually happens is rape, genocide and the intentional imposition of privation in order to use the fear of starvation and violence to gain compliance. A lot of people get off on murdering innocent people because it's fun for them. The reactionary responses to Karl stem from the fact that a lot of people intuitively understand what anarchists and communists are actually motivated by under their rhetoric. I actually respect your objectivity. It's the just and moral approach.  Occasionally you get the mask off schizos on twitter that outright admit they want to have sex with kids, but they don't have to say the quiet part out loud to infer the quiet part. He might not personally enjoy kids, but in the system he is advocating for, he'd probably fall in line if the collective decided it was fine and dandy to enjoy kids. |
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Quoted: Here we go again. Have said multiple times that I reject some of Karl's comments/actions. Why my comments are so disturbing to some is interesting. Intolerance of dissenting remarks is typical of Antifa and similar totalitarian groups. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For fuck's sake. You wonder why I hammered him so hard and picked apart his words. Sometimes if it walks like a duck, quacks like one, and waddles like one, it's just a duck. Defending the beliefs and statements of pinkos is an act in and of itself. Going to bat for someone repeatedly after they are extremely vocal about their beliefs, and you defend those beliefs, is worthy of judgment itself. It shows where your beliefs are as well if you won't condemn the beliefs/statements of that person. Have said multiple times that I reject some of Karl's comments/actions. Why my comments are so disturbing to some is interesting. Intolerance of dissenting remarks is typical of Antifa and similar totalitarian groups. That comment isn't about you. It's about Russel, who has since given even more direct evidence of his views. Before it was relegated to active defense of Karl's bullshit. |
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Quoted: I tend to think that a person's ideological identity is window dressing for deep personal interests that they can't openly express. I believe that because every time a communist revolution takes place what actually happens is rape, genocide and the intentional imposition of privation in order to use the fear of starvation and violence to gain compliance. A lot of people get off on dominating, hurting and murdering innocent people because it's fun for them. The reactionary responses to Karl stem from the fact that a lot of people intuitively understand what anarchists and communists are actually motivated by under their rhetoric. I actually respect RAFs objectivity. It's the just and moral approach. |
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Quoted: What the heck...I bought a blackfriday KE lower from Brownells....not sure I can even show my face at a public range now. looks like I'll need to fix a KJV bible to the rail somehow. |
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Quoted: What the heck...I bought a blackfriday KE lower from Brownells....not sure I can even show my face at a public range now. looks like I'll need to fix a KJV bible to the rail somehow. |
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Quoted: Don't get me wrong. Mentally sound people don't typically embrace this type of ideology. There's always an ulterior motive behind it. When it comes to people that embrace this ideology on the basis of sexual liberation, there's really only one reason that they would advocate against state curtailing the sexualization of minors, and we all know exactly what that reason is. The workers aren't going to collectively vote to keep the age of consent at 18, if they purposely fought a war to abolish state control over exposing minors to sexually motivated concepts. Occasionally you get the mask off schizos on twitter that outright admit they want to have sex with kids, but they don't have to say the quiet part out loud to infer the quiet part. He might not personally enjoy kids, but in the system he is advocating for, he'd probably fall in line if the collective decided it was fine and dandy to enjoy kids. Quoted: Quoted: I tend to think that a person's ideological identity is window dressing for deep personal interests that they can't openly express. I believe that because every time a communist revolution takes place what actually happens is rape, genocide and the intentional imposition of privation in order to use the fear of starvation and violence to gain compliance. A lot of people get off on murdering innocent people because it's fun for them. The reactionary responses to Karl stem from the fact that a lot of people intuitively understand what anarchists and communists are actually motivated by under their rhetoric. I actually respect your objectivity. It's the just and moral approach. Occasionally you get the mask off schizos on twitter that outright admit they want to have sex with kids, but they don't have to say the quiet part out loud to infer the quiet part. He might not personally enjoy kids, but in the system he is advocating for, he'd probably fall in line if the collective decided it was fine and dandy to enjoy kids. Objectively speaking his ideology is meaningless, he has no institutional power and he never will. But the reactionary response to his rhetoric is a given. He wants to sell rifles. People want rifles. Arfcom didn’t force him to say stuff on the internet. Arfcom was like Hey look at what that guy said on the internet. The stuff he said is probably going to effect his ability to get people to buy his products. *To be fair it’s almost impossible to not say idiotic stuff on the internet. *Affirmative support for self destructive behavior is not a victimless advocacy. It’s one thing to say that I would prefer to live in a society without malum prohibitum enforcements of drug use or prostitution. It’s another thing all together to say that self destructive behavior is equally moral to productive behavior. At that point you are advocating for behavior that will negatively effect people that don’t want to participate in your inverted lifestyle. |
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Quoted: KE Arms now owns Young Manufacturing. I really like their chrome HMB bolts and BCGs. Not as many options for chrome these days with everyone going nitride or Nickel Boron. Quoted: Quoted: What the heck...I bought a blackfriday KE lower from Brownells....not sure I can even show my face at a public range now. looks like I'll need to fix a KJV bible to the rail somehow. I've tried most everything, but well-made hard, industrial chromed parts are easy to clean, and shed crud. |
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Quoted: Your reasonable and kind supportive comments are much appreciated. Unfortunately, you are likely to condemned for making them. Quoted: Quoted: I tend to think that a person's ideological identity is window dressing for deep personal interests that they can't openly express. I believe that because every time a communist revolution takes place what actually happens is rape, genocide and the intentional imposition of privation in order to use the fear of starvation and violence to gain compliance. A lot of people get off on dominating, hurting and murdering innocent people because it's fun for them. The reactionary responses to Karl stem from the fact that a lot of people intuitively understand what anarchists and communists are actually motivated by under their rhetoric. I actually respect RAFs objectivity. It's the just and moral approach. So be it. That’s the standard that I would want to be measured by. |
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Quoted: Suggest you Evaluate your KE Arms lower in same fashion that you would do with any other lower. Please report back. Any future purchases would be up to one's own moral compass. |
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