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Quoted: So be it. That's the standard that I would want to be measured by. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I tend to think that a person's ideological identity is window dressing for deep personal interests that they can't openly express. I believe that because every time a communist revolution takes place what actually happens is rape, genocide and the intentional imposition of privation in order to use the fear of starvation and violence to gain compliance. A lot of people get off on dominating, hurting and murdering innocent people because it's fun for them. The reactionary responses to Karl stem from the fact that a lot of people intuitively understand what anarchists and communists are actually motivated by under their rhetoric. I actually respect RAFs objectivity. It's the just and moral approach. So be it. That's the standard that I would want to be measured by. |
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Quoted: I have a couple of their lowers and like them. I'm sure no one would suggest getting rid of a lower you otherwise like or judging someone at the range based on their lower and this thread. Hell I even like Poverty Ponies  Any future purchases would be up to one's own moral compass Quoted: Quoted: Suggest you Evaluate your KE Arms lower in same fashion that you would do with any other lower. Please report back. Any future purchases would be up to one's own moral compass Understood. I once bought a WW II Mauser from a guy who was a Wehrmacht soldier. Am I a sinner? |
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Quoted: Understood. I once bought a WW II Mauser from a guy who was a Wehrmacht soldier. Am I a sinner? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Suggest you Evaluate your KE Arms lower in same fashion that you would do with any other lower. Please report back. Any future purchases would be up to one's own moral compass Understood. I once bought a WW II Mauser from a guy who was a Wehrmacht soldier. Am I a sinner? No, but you might be a narcissist. |
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Quoted: No, but you might be a narcissist. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Suggest you Evaluate your KE Arms lower in same fashion that you would do with any other lower. Please report back. Any future purchases would be up to one's own moral compass Understood. I once bought a WW II Mauser from a guy who was a Wehrmacht soldier. Am I a sinner? No, but you might be a narcissist. |
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Quoted: Having a moral compass is more important to some. Quoted: Quoted: Suggest you Evaluate your KE Arms lower in same fashion that you would do with any other lower. Please report back. Having a moral compass is more important to some. |
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Quoted: Maybe asking folks to meet reasonable standards of proof is beyond them. If so, then don't make the allegation if it can't be proved. Much legit and demonstrable info contained in previous thread concerning Karl. All of which I was ignorant, since I don't follow such folks. Quoted: Quoted: Threatened uh huh...if you mean taking a thread over and making it all about you; and endlessly trying to get the last word in - as evidenced in the last one for like 15 pages; then yeah, I'm quaking in my boots. It's already begun in this one; and I'm sure nobody will meet your objective and irrefutable proof standards. Much legit and demonstrable info contained in previous thread concerning Karl. All of which I was ignorant, since I don't follow such folks. Have a nice day. |
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Quoted: Not succumbing to a witch hunt is part of one's moral compass. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Suggest you Evaluate your KE Arms lower in same fashion that you would do with any other lower. Please report back. Having a moral compass is more important to some. The witch hunt is over, Karl told us exactly who he is. |
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Quoted: Not succumbing to a witch hunt is part of one's moral compass. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Suggest you Evaluate your KE Arms lower in same fashion that you would do with any other lower. Please report back. Having a moral compass is more important to some. I've read what I needed to see, the proof has already been laid out for us by the party of interests. If that's not enough for you after reading their own words, then I don't know what else to tell you besides asking for you to take off your blinders. |
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Quoted: I tend to think that a person’s ideological identity is window dressing for deep personal interests that they can’t openly express. I believe that because every time a communist revolution takes place what actually happens is rape, genocide and the intentional imposition of privation in order to use the fear of starvation and violence to gain compliance. A lot of people get off on dominating, hurting and murdering innocent people because it’s fun for them. The reactionary responses to Karl stem from the fact that a lot of people intuitively understand what anarchists and communists are actually motivated by under their rhetoric. -. Interesting theory. Also seems likely. Depending on the purity/clarity of one's motives, might be things people can express. Other times not so much. |
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Quoted: I wasn’t talking about CavAid. Shit, Arfcom embarrassed themselves with the way GD responded to the end of that fiasco. I was talking about the long-term relationship of CavArms and GD before that. You don’t think those guys were here knee deep in Arfcom, for years, primarily because they were hoping to hype and sell those plastic lowers? If you can wade into GD with a military themed lower and bro vet marketing, you can wade into the SRA with a “community defense” themed rifle and DEI marketing. Probably more limiting in the long run, but it will help keep the lights on when you’re small. Quoted: Quoted: This… I wasn’t talking about CavAid. Shit, Arfcom embarrassed themselves with the way GD responded to the end of that fiasco. I was talking about the long-term relationship of CavArms and GD before that. You don’t think those guys were here knee deep in Arfcom, for years, primarily because they were hoping to hype and sell those plastic lowers? If you can wade into GD with a military themed lower and bro vet marketing, you can wade into the SRA with a “community defense” themed rifle and DEI marketing. Probably more limiting in the long run, but it will help keep the lights on when you’re small. …and I don’t give a shit what you think…  |
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Quoted: I've read what I needed to see, the proof has already been laid out for us by the party of interests. If that's not enough for you after reading their own words, then I don't know what else to tell you besides asking for you to take off your blinders Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Suggest you Evaluate your KE Arms lower in same fashion that you would do with any other lower. Please report back. Having a moral compass is more important to some. I've read what I needed to see, the proof has already been laid out for us by the party of interests. If that's not enough for you after reading their own words, then I don't know what else to tell you besides asking for you to take off your blinders |
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Quoted: This comment is typical of Posters NOT reading my previous comments and making mistaken assumptions. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Suggest you Evaluate your KE Arms lower in same fashion that you would do with any other lower. Please report back. Having a moral compass is more important to some. I've read what I needed to see, the proof has already been laid out for us by the party of interests. If that's not enough for you after reading their own words, then I don't know what else to tell you besides asking for you to take off your blinders This post here would help to elaborate/expand on my previous comment. And also ironic considering you didn't want to read the rest of the last thread. |
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Quoted: No, but you might be a narcissist. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Suggest you Evaluate your KE Arms lower in same fashion that you would do with any other lower. Please report back. Any future purchases would be up to one's own moral compass Understood. I once bought a WW II Mauser from a guy who was a Wehrmacht soldier. Am I a sinner? No, but you might be a narcissist. |
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Quoted: This post here would help to elaborate/expand on my previous comment. And also ironic considering you didn't want to read the rest of the last thread. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Suggest you Evaluate your KE Arms lower in same fashion that you would do with any other lower. Please report back. Having a moral compass is more important to some. I've read what I needed to see, the proof has already been laid out for us by the party of interests. If that's not enough for you after reading their own words, then I don't know what else to tell you besides asking for you to take off your blinders This post here would help to elaborate/expand on my previous comment. And also ironic considering you didn't want to read the rest of the last thread. DERN |
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Quoted: This post here would help to elaborate/expand on my previous comment. And also ironic considering you didn't want to read the rest of the last thread. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Suggest you Evaluate your KE Arms lower in same fashion that you would do with any other lower. Please report back. Having a moral compass is more important to some. I've read what I needed to see, the proof has already been laid out for us by the party of interests. If that's not enough for you after reading their own words, then I don't know what else to tell you besides asking for you to take off your blinders This post here would help to elaborate/expand on my previous comment. And also ironic considering you didn't want to read the rest of the last thread. Personally attacking me does NOT add to your overall argument. Nit-picking makes such posters look small. If personal attacks are all you've got, then you have nothing at all. Making Personal Attacks on other Members here, given that Site Admin and Sr. Staff are definitely monitoring this thread, is a surefire way to get this thread locked or trashed. Your call. |
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I didn't read all of the of the last thread, but enough to see that this Karl dude is a useful idiot. Like most useful idiots, he doesn't know it. I've never bought anything from KE, and now I'm glad I haven't. I hope Brownell's strongly reconsiders any relationships it has with these jokers. I've watched Gun Jesus's videos in the past, when they were purely technical discussions. Although sometimes dry, that was fine because I was interested in fine technical points. However, if he is a big supporter of these other guys, I'm probably not going to give him any clicks. I'm a small "L" libertarian. I'm not a Christian. That said, I'm a million miles from these idiots. There is a wide chasm between "live and let live" and actively courting left wing anarchists and the LGBTQ+XYZ activists. So they can shoot and know a little bit about guns. So what. That doesn't make them my friend or even on the same side. Although not even close to as insane as these folks, I have a colleague from work who has been voting Democrat his entire life. During the pandemic, he bought a 15 round 9mm pistol, and I taught him to shoot it, thinking he might change his political attitudes. Nope, not one bit. Now that he has his, he's back to talking about how people shouldn't have "high capacity assault weapons." Dummy, they think your pistol is one. I won't waste another minute helping him shoot. I feel bad that I was briefly a useful idiot to a true useful idiot. What can I say... hope springs eternal. |
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Quoted: I didn't read all of the of the last thread, but enough to see that this Karl dude is a useful idiot. Like most useful idiots, he doesn't know it. I've never bought anything from KE, and now I'm glad I haven't. I hope Brownell's strongly reconsiders any relationships it has with these jokers. I've watched Gun Jesus's videos in the past, when they were purely technical discussions. Although sometimes dry, that was fine because I was interested in fine technical points. However, if he is a big supporter of these other guys, I'm probably not going to give him any clicks. I'm a small "L" libertarian. I'm not a Christian. That said, I'm a million miles from these idiots. There is a wide chasm between "live and let live" and actively courting left wing anarchists and the LGBTQ+XYZ activists. So they can shoot and know a little bit about guns. So what. That doesn't make them my friend or even on the same side. Although not even close to as insane as these folks, I have a colleague from work who has been voting Democrat his entire life. During the pandemic, he bought a 15 round 9mm pistol, and I taught him to shoot it, thinking he might change his political attitudes. Nope, not one bit. Now that he has his, he's back to talking about how people shouldn't have "high capacity assault weapons." Dummy, they think your pistol is one. I won't waste another minute helping him shoot. I feel bad that I was briefly a useful idiot to a true useful idiot. What can I say... hope springs eternal. |
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It's abundantly obvious Karl and his pals are supporters of horrific child mutilation and abuse and existential enemies of the United States. Only question is how do American gun owners best organize to put him in the fringe without business/influence where he belongs? |
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Quoted: That's why he had to deflect and start accusing others of being dangerous to the tranny mafia. Quoted: Quoted: Appears so. I almost felt bad for the guy though. He was clearly trapped by his words and deeds and can’t articulate any sort of justification for his position. That's why he had to deflect and start accusing others of being dangerous to the tranny mafia. Interesting that stating "bringing children to drag shows is child abuse" is somehow hate speech, and it somehow infringes on the rights of LGBT people. |
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Quoted: Here we go again. Have said multiple times that I reject some of Karl's comments/actions. Why my comments are so disturbing to some is interesting. Intolerance of dissenting remarks is typical of Antifa and similar totalitarian groups. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For fuck's sake. You wonder why I hammered him so hard and picked apart his words. Sometimes if it walks like a duck, quacks like one, and waddles like one, it's just a duck. Defending the beliefs and statements of pinkos is an act in and of itself. Going to bat for someone repeatedly after they are extremely vocal about their beliefs, and you defend those beliefs, is worthy of judgment itself. It shows where your beliefs are as well if you won't condemn the beliefs/statements of that person. Have said multiple times that I reject some of Karl's comments/actions. Why my comments are so disturbing to some is interesting. Intolerance of dissenting remarks is typical of Antifa and similar totalitarian groups. Intolerance of dissenting remarks from Rhode Island is not uncommon in American history. |
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Quoted: Dear Heaven! Did QCMGR dare to contradict the "received' opinions in this thread? That obviously allows any and all personal attacks. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: and I don't give a shit what you think You are a weirdly angry old guy. That obviously allows any and all personal attacks. Please stop trying to lock the thread. |
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Quoted: Intolerance of dissenting remarks from Rhode Island is not uncommon in American history. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For fuck's sake. You wonder why I hammered him so hard and picked apart his words. Sometimes if it walks like a duck, quacks like one, and waddles like one, it's just a duck. Defending the beliefs and statements of pinkos is an act in and of itself. Going to bat for someone repeatedly after they are extremely vocal about their beliefs, and you defend those beliefs, is worthy of judgment itself. It shows where your beliefs are as well if you won't condemn the beliefs/statements of that person. Have said multiple times that I reject some of Karl's comments/actions. Why my comments acan you expad in your remark, please?re so disturbing to some is interesting. Intolerance of dissenting remarks is typical of Antifa and similar totalitarian groups. Intolerance of dissenting remarks from Rhode Island is not uncommon in American history. Interesting remark. Would you please expand on your remark, and how my personal opinion also pertains to all other Rhode Islanders? |
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Quoted: Please stop trying to lock the thread. No "special knowledge" but I reckon Site Admin/Staff allowed the previous thread to more or less exhaust itself before stepping in and locking it. They gave repeated warnings. I believe they left it "locked" on account of valuable info concerning Karl contained within the thread, and editing it became impossible after a certain point. It's remarkable that that thread was only "Locked", which allows readers to view the whole thread, and not "Trashed" which would have "Disappeared" the thread altogether. I think that says something. All the above is pure conjecture on my part. |
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Quoted: I'm not the one making potentially thread-locking comments, and you damn well know it. Don't blame this thread being locked on me. No "special knowledge" but I reckon Site Admin/Staff allowed the previous thread to more or less exhaust itself before stepping in and locking it They left it "locked" on account of valuable info concerning Karl contained within the thread, and editing it became impossible after a certain point. It's remarkable that that thread was only "locked", which allows readers to view the whole thread, and not trashed which would have "disappeared" the thread altogether. All the above is pure conjecture on my part. You're deliberately egging on people to get them to that point all while doing the very thing you claim to be a victim off. Knock it off and go somewhere else. |
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Quoted: You're deliberately egging on people to get them to that point all while doing the very thing you claim to be a victim off. Knock it off and go somewhere else. Quoted: Quoted: I'm not the one making potentially thread-locking comments, and you damn well know it. Don't blame this thread being locked on me. No "special knowledge" but I reckon Site Admin/Staff allowed the previous thread to more or less exhaust itself before stepping in and locking it They left it "locked" on account of valuable info concerning Karl contained within the thread, and editing it became impossible after a certain point. It's remarkable that that thread was only "locked", which allows readers to view the whole thread, and not trashed which would have "disappeared" the thread altogether. All the above is pure conjecture on my part. You're deliberately egging on people to get them to that point all while doing the very thing you claim to be a victim off. Knock it off and go somewhere else. |
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Quoted: Which page of the locked thread did Karl make his appearance? Thx |
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Quoted: This comment is typical of Posters NOT reading my previous comments and making mistaken assumptions. Then you do you. I am not going to support financially anyone that I disagree with that either supports the killers of an unarmed pregnant woman over a victimless "crime", and neither will I support monetarily those who are okay with arming hard core far leftists that have shown up armed to intimidate the sexual grooming of children. If I am reading you wrong then then disregard. It just really sucks to be of the employ of YM for so many years, that now belongs to KE Arms and having to work unknowingly potentially for people that are okay with communists and pedo's. H-S Precision, Troy Industries, and now KE Arms and anything Young made is verbatim as far as I'm concerned with my money and support. |
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Quoted: Well fuck, Forgotten weapons just posted on YouTube that Brownells is having a sale on all WWSD stuff. I really like Ian and his channel, but this just seems like a slap on the face. I just came here to post this. Attached File I wonder why Brownells has these on sale for so much off... |
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Quoted: Then you do you. I am not going to support financially anyone that I disagree with that either supports the killers of an unarmed pregnant woman over a victimless "crime", and neither will I support monetarily those who are okay with arming hard core far leftists that have shown up armed to intimidate the sexual grooming of children. If I am reading you wrong then then disregard. It just really sucks to be of the employ of YM for so many years, that now belongs to KE Arms and having to work unknowingly potentially for people that are okay with communists and pedo's. H-S Precision, Troy Industries, and now KE Arms and anything Young made is verbatim as far as I'm concerned with my money and support. Quoted: Quoted: This comment is typical of Posters NOT reading my previous comments and making mistaken assumptions. Then you do you. I am not going to support financially anyone that I disagree with that either supports the killers of an unarmed pregnant woman over a victimless "crime", and neither will I support monetarily those who are okay with arming hard core far leftists that have shown up armed to intimidate the sexual grooming of children. If I am reading you wrong then then disregard. It just really sucks to be of the employ of YM for so many years, that now belongs to KE Arms and having to work unknowingly potentially for people that are okay with communists and pedo's. H-S Precision, Troy Industries, and now KE Arms and anything Young made is verbatim as far as I'm concerned with my money and support. Very different. Karl has damned himself by his own words and acts for certain specified acts. I've repeatedly said I disavow such acts/statements, but my accusors seem to continually omit that fact. Asking for "fair play" during the trial is not the same thing as not passing judgment once reliable evidence has been introduced. Completely your call on whom you support with your hard-earned dollars. I suggest that you do some research on your own hook, and then decide. |
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/idaho-satanists-plan-gender-affirmation-ritual-to-protest-ban-surgeries-children-i-praise-myself Satanists and sex change for minors. Perfect for this thread. |
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Quoted: Well fuck, Forgotten weapons just posted on YouTube that Brownells is having a sale on all WWSD stuff. I really like Ian and his channel, but this just seems like a slap on the face. |
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Quoted: Also, they're arguing that ARFCOM is a bunch of "(2A)rights for me, not thee" fascists while at the same time they are trying to get it shutdown for speech they disagree with. I don't think that I've seen anyone doing that at the trannies, gays, and lesbians on here. No one has ever said that we are not for a 2A for everyone. However if one is okay with having a child grooming event and showing up armed to intimidate anyone from speaking their minds in opposition like the public should, then IMO it's not using the 2A in what it was meant to be, protection from tyranny and other evils. And intimidation pretending to be for protecting child groomer pedo's is evil IMO. |
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Quoted: Also, they're arguing that ARFCOM is a bunch of "(2A)rights for me, not thee" fascists while at the same time they are trying to get it shutdown for speech they disagree with. It's ironic because I've met people of every ethnic group at ar15.com related events while events in the Arizona desert seem awfully white. |
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Quoted: You're not the Boss of me. I'm not "egging" anyone, just stating my personal opinions. If you feel "threatened" then retreat to your "safe space". Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm not the one making potentially thread-locking comments, and you damn well know it. Don't blame this thread being locked on me. No "special knowledge" but I reckon Site Admin/Staff allowed the previous thread to more or less exhaust itself before stepping in and locking it They left it "locked" on account of valuable info concerning Karl contained within the thread, and editing it became impossible after a certain point. It's remarkable that that thread was only "locked", which allows readers to view the whole thread, and not trashed which would have "disappeared" the thread altogether. All the above is pure conjecture on my part. You're deliberately egging on people to get them to that point all while doing the very thing you claim to be a victim off. Knock it off and go somewhere else. @raf I actually appreciate your participation in the last thread. Without your constant demands for more proof, floridacop would never have begun to gather all of those screen shots and make the connections he did. That did lead to solid proof. However, the first sentence of the post I quoted is exactly what others are referencing. To everyone but you, that is agging someone on. You do that constantly while suggesting the same treatment, or less from others qualifies as a personal attack. In this regard it seems like you are more than willing to dish it out, while you can't take it. It's a huge problem for you as you attempt to have very good rational debate. It looks to many that you shoot yourself in the foot at nearly every opportunity. Again, thanks for your participation in these threads. I hope the best for you as you move forward and genuinely hope that reflect on your methods so you can be even more productive in your discussions. |
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Quoted: I legitimately don't know, but does he have a stake in it? If so, that's understandable shilling, regardless about how you feel about the other involved parties. Quoted: Quoted: Well fuck, Forgotten weapons just posted on YouTube that Brownells is having a sale on all WWSD stuff. I really like Ian and his channel, but this just seems like a slap on the face. Karl gets like $10 on every sale or something like that. |
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