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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:32:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistorySouped up wildcat
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:32:26 AM EDT
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A large cat killed five animals...including three horses Why? Just for practice. Forest credit? 
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:33:13 AM EDT
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In most states it is illegal to kill a none game species unless you can say it was posing a direct threat. A guy in NYS claimed to have shot a Mt. Lion and buried it with his backhoe. The DEC investigated and quickly realized he was full of shit when they told him they would bring in their own equipment to dig it up. The DEC told him had you shot it you would have been arrested as it is not a game species in the state of NY. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just came here to post this... my wife asked if we had a gun big enough to kill it... nope not yet  |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:33:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. KY says they're not really there. PA did/does the same. In a PA hunters safety class in about 1994 somebody asked about lions. The Game cop said they didn't exist in PA. The volunteer instructor said that the PGC had to say that because, since Eastern Lions at the time were considered endangered (they were declared extinct not long ago) the PGC would have to spend a shitload of money on habitat work and protection and all that and they didn't want to. The PGC cop said nothing in response to this. PGC always said that any cougars found were "escaped pets", because that's a thing apparently. People started pointing to DNA analysis saying the cats were all from the West. Except (1) cats are going to spread East as their population grows and (2) one of the reasons the Eastern Lion got delisted was because they determined via DNA that all North American lions are the same species. So they're here. Or they will be. I'm looking forward to it, personally. Too many deer, too many liberals hiking. Better to deny reality, let the process happen naturally, and then when the population is fully recovered say "oh, they're here and doing fine. No ESA required." |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:35:43 AM EDT
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If a predatory ( healthy ) cat such as a Cougar/Mt. Lion, why would it go all out on 3 horses and 2 dogs in one night, makes no sense to me considering their instincts to prey, kill and eat one animal at a time. My guess its a rabid cat or bear. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:37:11 AM EDT
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A lot of cat hunters in Utah use .357 or .44 mag pistols. They're big and tough, but they're not anywhere close to African lions or tigers. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:37:24 AM EDT
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As any sheepherder in Utah can tell you, sometimes cougars (and coyotes) kill just for the fun of it. Especially when the prey is stupid and easy to kill. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If a predatory ( healthy ) cat such as a Cougar/Mt. Lion, why would it go all out on 3 horses and 2 dogs in one night, makes no sense to me considering their instincts to prey, kill and eat one animal at a time. My guess its a rabid cat or bear. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:44:32 AM EDT
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So what is a coyote, groundhog, etc? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just came here to post this... my wife asked if we had a gun big enough to kill it... nope not yet |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:45:44 AM EDT
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12g with slugs, goodnight sweet kitty!
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:46:13 AM EDT
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If a predatory ( healthy ) cat such as a Cougar/Mt. Lion, why would it go all out on 3 horses and 2 dogs in one night, makes no sense to me considering their instincts to prey, kill and eat one animal at a time. My guess its a rabid cat or bear. 
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:46:20 AM EDT
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A large cat killed five animals...including three horses Why? Just for practice. Forest credit? |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:47:19 AM EDT
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The dept of fish and wildlife claims they are not here but they certainly are. They even catch one holed up in a barn every so often.
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:47:28 AM EDT
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Just came here to post this... my wife asked if we had a gun big enough to kill it... nope not yet Wow, NY considers the coyote a non-vermin. https://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/27801.html |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:48:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:48:54 AM EDT
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This happened not 15 miles from where I'm sitting: https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/cougar-attack-kills-one-2nd-man-in-satisfactory-condition/281-555709031
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:49:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Somewhere around here I've got an old book in which Elmer Keith talks about preferring to use .22lr for cougar, hunting with dogs anyway. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xUJfYDKt3A |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:49:57 AM EDT
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Put empty boxes all around the field. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:50:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because cats are dicks, large or small. They also engage in sort killing just for fun |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 11:56:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what is a coyote, groundhog, etc? |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:00:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. KY says they're not really there. PA did/does the same. In a PA hunters safety class in about 1994 somebody asked about lions. The Game cop said they didn't exist in PA. The volunteer instructor said that the PGC had to say that because, since Eastern Lions at the time were considered endangered (they were declared extinct not long ago) the PGC would have to spend a shitload of money on habitat work and protection and all that and they didn't want to. The PGC cop said nothing in response to this. PGC always said that any cougars found were "escaped pets", because that's a thing apparently. People started pointing to DNA analysis saying the cats were all from the West. Except (1) cats are going to spread East as their population grows and (2) one of the reasons the Eastern Lion got delisted was because they determined via DNA that all North American lions are the same species. So they're here. Or they will be. I'm looking forward to it, personally. Too many deer, too many liberals hiking. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:02:35 PM EDT
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Doubtful. The OP doesn’t understand the term ‘game species’. Deer, bear, turkey, squirrel, rabbit - game species. Groundhog, coyote, mouse - non-game or vermin. Wow, NY considers the coyote a non-vermin. https://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/27801.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just came here to post this... my wife asked if we had a gun big enough to kill it... nope not yet Wow, NY considers the coyote a non-vermin. https://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/27801.html (YY) "Game" includes game birds, game quadrupeds, and furbearing animals. (XX) "Furbearing animals" includes minks, weasels, raccoons, skunks, opossums, muskrats, fox, beavers, badgers, otters, coyotes, bobcats and fishers. (ZZ) "Game birds" includes mourning doves, Eurasian collared-doves, ringneck pheasants, bobwhite quail, ruffed grouse, sharp-tailed grouse, pinnated grouse, wild turkey, Hungarian partridge, chukar partridge, woodcocks, black-breasted plover, golden plover, Wilson's snipe or jacksnipe, greater and lesser yellowlegs, rail, coots, gallinules, duck, geese, brant, mergansers and crows. (AAA) "Game quadrupeds" includes cottontail rabbits, gray squirrels, black squirrels, fox squirrels, red squirrels, flying squirrels, chipmunks, groundhogs or woodchucks, white-tailed deer, elk, black bears, wild boar, feral swine, and porcupines. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:04:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ohio Admin Code: (YY) "Game" includes game birds, game quadrupeds, and furbearing animals. (XX) "Furbearing animals" includes minks, weasels, raccoons, skunks, opossums, muskrats, fox, beavers, badgers, otters, coyotes, bobcats and fishers. (ZZ) "Game birds" includes mourning doves, Eurasian collared-doves, ringneck pheasants, bobwhite quail, ruffed grouse, sharp-tailed grouse, pinnated grouse, wild turkey, Hungarian partridge, chukar partridge, woodcocks, black-breasted plover, golden plover, Wilson's snipe or jacksnipe, greater and lesser yellowlegs, rail, coots, gallinules, duck, geese, brant, mergansers and crows. (AAA) "Game quadrupeds" includes cottontail rabbits, gray squirrels, black squirrels, fox squirrels, red squirrels, flying squirrels, chipmunks, groundhogs or woodchucks, white-tailed deer, elk, black bears, wild boar, feral swine, and porcupines. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:05:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ohio Admin Code: (YY) "Game" includes game birds, game quadrupeds, and furbearing animals. (XX) "Furbearing animals" includes minks, weasels, raccoons, skunks, opossums, muskrats, fox, beavers, badgers, otters, coyotes, bobcats and fishers. (ZZ) "Game birds" includes mourning doves, Eurasian collared-doves, ringneck pheasants, bobwhite quail, ruffed grouse, sharp-tailed grouse, pinnated grouse, wild turkey, Hungarian partridge, chukar partridge, woodcocks, black-breasted plover, golden plover, Wilson's snipe or jacksnipe, greater and lesser yellowlegs, rail, coots, gallinules, duck, geese, brant, mergansers and crows. (AAA) "Game quadrupeds" includes cottontail rabbits, gray squirrels, black squirrels, fox squirrels, red squirrels, flying squirrels, chipmunks, groundhogs or woodchucks, white-tailed deer, elk, black bears, wild boar, feral swine, and porcupines. I have heard cougar loins are good eating |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:05:58 PM EDT
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If a predatory ( healthy ) cat such as a Cougar/Mt. Lion, why would it go all out on 3 horses and 2 dogs in one night, makes no sense to me considering their instincts to prey, kill and eat one animal at a time. My guess its a rabid cat or bear. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:06:21 PM EDT
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Whangdoodle. I thought they were only legendary.
"While our regiment was encamped at Murfreesboro a man by the name of Hester made application to Colonel Moore for appointment as chaplain. Colonel Moore told him that he would not appoint him unless a majority of the regiment expressed a preference for him. He then began to canvass for votes. M. Luna, a rollicking, jolly, good soldier of Company I, also announced for this office. He swore that he could preach as good a sermon as L. Hester, and he appointed a time and place where the boys could have a sample of his sermons. He would mount a stump or woodpile, and the service would begin by lining out a song, 'Old Grimes,' 'Ryestraw,' or some other doggerel familiar at that time. He would then announce as his text, 'Whar de hen scratch, dar de bug also,' or 'Gnaw a file and flee to the wilderness, whar de lion roar and de whangdoodle moans.' After his 'sermon,' he would say, 'Now, if you don't believe I'm a better preacher than L. Hester, vote for him, darn you.' Needless to say, Mack was elected by a big majority; but when he applied to Colonel Moore for credentials, he was told to go back to his company and behave, or he would be sent to the guardhouse. That was the last we heard of a chaplain until Rev. M. B. DeWitt came to us. He was a devout Christian and was loved by all." |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:09:47 PM EDT
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If a predatory ( healthy ) cat such as a Cougar/Mt. Lion, why would it go all out on 3 horses and 2 dogs in one night, makes no sense to me considering their instincts to prey, kill and eat one animal at a time. My guess its a rabid cat or bear. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:13:26 PM EDT
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I always wonder if it's a big cat that escaped from somewhere. Somebody up the road from me has lions and I don't know what all big cats behind very high walled, fenced enclosures.
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:13:33 PM EDT
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As any sheepherder in Utah can tell you, sometimes cougars (and coyotes) kill just for the fun of it. Especially when the prey is stupid and easy to kill. 
Wrong. Very few animals on the planet do anything “for fun.” Cats are wound up predators, it’s what makes them what they are. Much more likely that the cats were raising and training cubs, or the animal was NOT healthy. The point is that nature does things for a reason, whether or not we understand what that reason is. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:13:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. THREE horses? Plus two dogs? That's nuts. Cats get run off by multiple dogs all the time. Highly unlikely that it sticks around. No healthy, wild cat is going to risk injury against multiple dogs or kill three horses for shits and giggles. Contrary to popular belief, they don't just kill for fun. (Hint: neither does your house cat.) Quote HistoryQuoted: This. THREE horses? Plus two dogs? That's nuts. Cats get run off by multiple dogs all the time. Highly unlikely that it sticks around. No healthy, wild cat is going to risk injury against multiple dogs or kill three horses for shits and giggles. Contrary to popular belief, they don't just kill for fun. (Hint: neither does your house cat.) ETA: Found the story: He killed one dog, and maimed the other. https://www.parkrecord.com/news/summit-county/mountain-lion-shot-in-summit-park-after-killing-dog/ ETA 2: And of course, there were the typical animal lover dumbasses who got upset the cat was shot: Several Snyderville Basin residents are unhappy about how the situation was handled.
Heidi Hewitt, a Pinebrook resident, said it is "truly an awful situation because it was a beautiful cat." On Saturday, Hewitt notified DWR that a mountain lion, it's unclear if it was the same one, had been spotted on the back deck of her Pinebrook home. "I had never seen a mountain lion before and I just wanted them to let people know because there is a trail right off the hill in my backyard that is heavily traveled," Hewitt said. "I posted it on Facebook and tagged my neighbors. Most said, 'today I'll put my dogs on the leash or I won't go back there.' Several people are really upset and frustrated about it. "It bums me out because they had relocated some bears that had been a nuisance in the past I don't know what the difference was now," Hewitt said. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:16:24 PM EDT
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Stupid is as stupid does I guess. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Ohio Admin Code: (YY) "Game" includes game birds, game quadrupeds, and furbearing animals. (XX) "Furbearing animals" includes minks, weasels, raccoons, skunks, opossums, muskrats, fox, beavers, badgers, otters, coyotes, bobcats and fishers. (ZZ) "Game birds" includes mourning doves, Eurasian collared-doves, ringneck pheasants, bobwhite quail, ruffed grouse, sharp-tailed grouse, pinnated grouse, wild turkey, Hungarian partridge, chukar partridge, woodcocks, black-breasted plover, golden plover, Wilson's snipe or jacksnipe, greater and lesser yellowlegs, rail, coots, gallinules, duck, geese, brant, mergansers and crows. (AAA) "Game quadrupeds" includes cottontail rabbits, gray squirrels, black squirrels, fox squirrels, red squirrels, flying squirrels, chipmunks, groundhogs or woodchucks, white-tailed deer, elk, black bears, wild boar, feral swine, and porcupines. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:16:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cats kill for fun. Never seen a house cat kill a mouse and not eat it? I once felt sorry for the mouse and rescued it from him. He was still alive but half his skin was torn off and he was dead by morning. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:19:18 PM EDT
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In most states it is illegal to kill a none game species unless you can say it was posing a direct threat. A guy in NYS claimed to have shot a Mt. Lion and buried it with his backhoe. The DEC investigated and quickly realized he was full of shit when they told him they would bring in their own equipment to dig it up. The DEC told him had you shot it you would have been arrested as it is not a game species in the state of NY. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just came here to post this... my wife asked if we had a gun big enough to kill it... nope not yet |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:23:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:24:10 PM EDT
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Yep. Eastern wildlife agencies have seen what a PITA the Endangered Species Act has been for western agencies, and they want nothing to do with it. Better to deny reality, let the process happen naturally, and then when the population is fully recovered say "oh, they're here and doing fine. No ESA required." Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Nope. KY says they're not really there. PA did/does the same. In a PA hunters safety class in about 1994 somebody asked about lions. The Game cop said they didn't exist in PA. The volunteer instructor said that the PGC had to say that because, since Eastern Lions at the time were considered endangered (they were declared extinct not long ago) the PGC would have to spend a shitload of money on habitat work and protection and all that and they didn't want to. The PGC cop said nothing in response to this. PGC always said that any cougars found were "escaped pets", because that's a thing apparently. People started pointing to DNA analysis saying the cats were all from the West. Except (1) cats are going to spread East as their population grows and (2) one of the reasons the Eastern Lion got delisted was because they determined via DNA that all North American lions are the same species. So they're here. Or they will be. I'm looking forward to it, personally. Too many deer, too many liberals hiking. Better to deny reality, let the process happen naturally, and then when the population is fully recovered say "oh, they're here and doing fine. No ESA required." You guys back east have no idea what a disaster the ESA has been for us out here. I served on a Natural Resources advisory board for years and was involved in coordination efforts with the State. I worked closely with our Game commissioner in the formation of wolf management regulations. Eventually, you will not be able to obfuscate the reality, and then when the enviros get involved your rural culture will experience the war against it that ours has. UNLESS you can buy time until some sort of rationality and common sense enter the fray. No idea if that will ever happen. A friend of mine shot a 185 pound mountain lion. We've gotten our share but nothing that big. That is...HUGE. As you can imagine, we have and do suffer all sorts of livestock depredation from predators; coyotes, wolves, bear, lion, now grizzly are moving into our area so that promises to add to the mess. Anyway, for your viewing enjoyment, here's a mom and her cubs on my ranch; 
And mt son with one that didn't get away... 
And some more neighbors.... 
And the damage wolves cause to livestock.... 
Oh, and OP...the culprit wasn't a bobcat. Here's a couple of those. They are not horse killers... 
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:30:08 PM EDT
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Just came here to post this... my wife asked if we had a gun big enough to kill it... nope not yet |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:32:27 PM EDT
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Perfect answer. Milk it for all you can. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just came here to post this... my wife asked if we had a gun big enough to kill it... nope not yet But whatever....
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:33:01 PM EDT
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Wrong. Very few animals on the planet do anything “for fun.” Cats are wound up predators, it’s what makes them what they are. Much more likely that the cats were raising and training cubs, or the animal was NOT healthy. The point is that nature does things for a reason, whether or not we understand what that reason is. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:42:22 PM EDT
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Coyotes and cats nost certainly kill for fun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wrong. Very few animals on the planet do anything “for fun.” Cats are wound up predators, it’s what makes them what they are. Much more likely that the cats were raising and training cubs, or the animal was NOT healthy. The point is that nature does things for a reason, whether or not we understand what that reason is. The stuff we see and call "fun" is likely not what WE experience. But regardless, I don't believe actions accomplished by animals are done "for a reason" in that animals act by instinct, not rationality. As for "fun" killing, lots of animals kill for what we call for lack of better words, "fun" or "sport". I suppose it is more accurate to say they kill under those circumstances "because they can". They are hardwired to kill for survival, and at times when additional targets of opportunity arise, they "just do it". We've had instances of herds of elk killed by wolves. A few years ago, a rancher in southern Idaho lost 176 sheep in one night to a pack of wolves. Goes on and on. I've raised livestock and trained horses and dogs for years. One of my female dogs was mauled by coyotes the other day. They do what they do. Arguing about "why" makes no sense, but it sure makes me "feel" better to think that when "Man's Best Friend" wags his tail it's because he thinks I'm a hero...
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:42:36 PM EDT
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You could have your lion population filled to capacity and people will still hike-- they don't rapaciously kill and eat people too often, like practically never. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Nope. KY says they're not really there. PA did/does the same. In a PA hunters safety class in about 1994 somebody asked about lions. The Game cop said they didn't exist in PA. The volunteer instructor said that the PGC had to say that because, since Eastern Lions at the time were considered endangered (they were declared extinct not long ago) the PGC would have to spend a shitload of money on habitat work and protection and all that and they didn't want to. The PGC cop said nothing in response to this. PGC always said that any cougars found were "escaped pets", because that's a thing apparently. People started pointing to DNA analysis saying the cats were all from the West. Except (1) cats are going to spread East as their population grows and (2) one of the reasons the Eastern Lion got delisted was because they determined via DNA that all North American lions are the same species. So they're here. Or they will be. I'm looking forward to it, personally. Too many deer, too many liberals hiking. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:42:36 PM EDT
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This is about 10 miles from me. Everyone here is assuming a mountain lion in the area, but I’m leaning towards chupacabra. What round for mythical goat suckers? |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:49:23 PM EDT
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This is about 10 miles from me. Everyone here is assuming a mountain lion in the area, but I’m leaning towards chupacabra. What round for mythical goat suckers? A lot of lion have been killed here with .22 Mag pistols. They have very little wind. Small lungs. Can't run far. The opposite of bear that are the marathon runners. Favorites around here are the .22 mag, .357 mag revolver, .30-30, .44 Mag rifle and wheelgun, any and all deer/elk rifles tho high power rifles wreck the hides which most folks want to keep. A fellow I used to know used an M1 Carbine which would be perfect with soft point ammo. Light and handy and easy to carry when following hounds and chasing them on Misery Slippers. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:49:58 PM EDT
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Ohio maintains that there are no mountain lions. Yet, about 5 miles from me, State highway patrol chased one down the highway. They later clarified their statement that it was a bobcat... Yeah, I'm sorry. You don't get a mountain lion and bobcat confused. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:51:21 PM EDT
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If a predatory ( healthy ) cat such as a Cougar/Mt. Lion, why would it go all out on 3 horses and 2 dogs in one night, makes no sense to me considering their instincts to prey, kill and eat one animal at a time. My guess its a rabid cat or bear. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:52:26 PM EDT
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Dogmen
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:55:26 PM EDT
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I lost my leopard around there last week. His name is "Spot." He usually responds nicely when called, but lately he's changed.
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Posted: 9/3/2018 12:59:18 PM EDT
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I live in mountain lion country. I chase mountain lions with hounds. People call me all the time because they saw a mountain lion, which often translates into bobcat. People do get them confused. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ohio maintains that there are no mountain lions. Yet, about 5 miles from me, State highway patrol chased one down the highway. They later clarified their statement that it was a bobcat... Yeah, I'm sorry. You don't get a mountain lion and bobcat confused. Here's what was left of the deer they killed: 
And here's a couple that followed me in my ski tracks! 
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:01:13 PM EDT
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I lost my leopard around there last week. His name is "Spot." He usually responds nicely when called, but lately he's changed.
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:03:05 PM EDT
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As was pointed out, sometimes they just think it's fun. You should see what they can do to sheep. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If a predatory ( healthy ) cat such as a Cougar/Mt. Lion, why would it go all out on 3 horses and 2 dogs in one night, makes no sense to me considering their instincts to prey, kill and eat one animal at a time. My guess its a rabid cat or bear. The big cat rumors persist in north PA and southern tier NY. Fleeting trail cam shots now and then. The bears are back for sure, they get swacked on the roads pretty regularly. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:04:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My buddy got mauled by a cougar. His first mistake was, he let her buy him a shot and a beer. It degenerated from there. 
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:05:12 PM EDT
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Mountain lion isn't gonna take on a horse..............is it? |
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