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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:37:18 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't believe the made up BS from the mainstream media, those folks are trying all they can to prevent DJT from running for PotUS in 2024. Just take everything in stride. DJT will not be the president in 2024 or even the republican nominee. Anyone who can't see that at this point is lying to themselves. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:37:39 PM EDT
[#2]
7 defections and counting.
Without Democrat support, McCarthy has failed in the second vote. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:37:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Freedom caucus is fucking this all up. Dems are laughing all the way back into power. I do not trust mccarthy one bit. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:38:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not possible, unless some R's vote for Jeffries. You think they wouldn't, out of spite?  I assume it wouldn't 'stick' since all the Republicans should be able to agree that anyone on the 'R' side is better than anyone on the 'D' side and would call another vote, but I would think that logic would have played out before this scenario. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:38:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It does matter, and throwing a tantrum in the House and risking the Speakership isn't going to get us where we need to go. The Freedom Caucus and Biggs already tried to get the Speakership. They lost. There was already an election, and they lost. There is no possible scenario at this point that'll change that outcome. The ONLY potential outcomes are: 1) McCarthy wins, 2) Someone like Scalise steps in and wins, or 3) a handful of RINOs join with Democrats to elect a "unity" candidate who would be much, much worse than McCarthy I'd like to see Scalise take it but that's not likely based on the reporting we have. And yes, it does matter, because the Speaker will determine who gets what committee assignments and what investigations can take place. Or not. Oh, and what legislation hits the floor. Yes, that matters. A lot. All this bullshit does is make the entire party look like a bunch of fucking incompetent clowns. And... That's an accurate assessment so far. The party has been looking like a bunch of clowns almost as long as I have been alive. Decades of the “lesser of two evils” approach has kept it that way. On paper, all of the stuff you listed does matter, but if you think that anything in DC is gonna change with McCarthy, or pretty much anyone at this point, then I don’t know what to tell you. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:40:51 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://media.tenor.com/rugIXbZQAOgAAAAC/its-happening.gif One thing about the dems, is that they do stick together. Guess that's the difference between Hivemind vs independent mentality but the thing about Dems is they stick together to ELECT SOMEONE THAT IS A TRUE BELIEVER. Democrats have Manchin and Synema who are soft. The rest of them are hard left. If democrats were republicans it would be all MAGA folks and one or two rino's. The R's are opposite. the NEOCON/RINO crowd is huge. MAGA is a subset. this is why democrats don't have those problem. If we had mostly Gaetz/Jim Jordan etc, this would be a non issue. We'd elect a MAGA person and get on with it. The Republicans keep throwing these shitty RINOs like McCarthy, Paul Ryan etc at us, and many of us are over it. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:42:03 PM EDT
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Is the sum total of KM's strategy to just sit there on a vote a Rama to see if the other side gives up?
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:42:29 PM EDT
[#8]
just don't elect anyone. congress will never move forward for the session and america wins
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:43:51 PM EDT
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If you voted for an R that is voting for mccarthy, you are part of the problem.
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:45:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the sum total of KM's strategy to just sit there on a vote a Rama to see if the other side gives up? They may go for a third round given it would appear the second round has already failed. Though, perhaps not. The vote may simply be "called" and, for now, no speaker decided. Likely to be resolved by some negotiations outside the chamber later. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:46:47 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol, swamp political theatre, makes zero difference who gets picked. Ima go with this here. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:47:59 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What are the odds that the Republicans screw around and we end up with Hakeem Jeffries as Speaker? If there were any viable alternative to the Democrats, the Republicans would be toast. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:48:15 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you voted for an R that is voting for mccarthy, you are part of the problem. Says the guy (or gal) who doesnt post their state or divulge what district they are from. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:48:46 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to this kind of procedural vote... how many times can they vote? Do they keep voting until someone gets to 218? Yes, they vote until someone gets 218. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:49:39 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you voted for an R that is voting for mccarthy, you are part of the problem. Where you from squirrelly? |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:50:01 PM EDT
[#16]
Besides McCarthy being a Rino….. the “freedom caucus” has made untenable demands.
We are watching our republic self destruct in real time. Narcissists doing narcissist things. And they are ALL narcissists. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:50:32 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you voted for an R that is voting for mccarthy, you are part of the problem. Divide the right. You’re doing a great job. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:50:36 PM EDT
[#18]
All crooks and thieves.
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:50:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You think they wouldn't, out of spite? I assume it wouldn't 'stick' since all the Republicans should be able to agree that anyone on the 'R' side is better than anyone on the 'D' side and would call another vote, but I would think that logic would have played out before this scenario. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not possible, unless some R's vote for Jeffries. You think they wouldn't, out of spite? I assume it wouldn't 'stick' since all the Republicans should be able to agree that anyone on the 'R' side is better than anyone on the 'D' side and would call another vote, but I would think that logic would have played out before this scenario. I don't consider that even remotely a possibility. Not everyone has paid security 24/7 and some people are very emotional about who they voted for, and why. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:51:21 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: just don't elect anyone. congress will never move forward for the session and america wins This is the best America can hope for. 
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:51:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: but the thing about Dems is they stick together to ELECT SOMEONE THAT IS A TRUE BELIEVER. Democrats have Manchin and Synema who are soft. The rest of them are hard left. If democrats were republicans it would be all MAGA folks and one or two rino's. The R's are opposite. the NEOCON/RINO crowd is huge. MAGA is a subset. this is why democrats don't have those problem. If we had mostly Gaetz/Jim Jordan etc, this would be a non issue. We'd elect a MAGA person and get on with it. The Republicans keep throwing these shitty RINOs like McCarthy, Paul Ryan etc at us, and many of us are over it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://media.tenor.com/rugIXbZQAOgAAAAC/its-happening.gif One thing about the dems, is that they do stick together. Guess that's the difference between Hivemind vs independent mentality but the thing about Dems is they stick together to ELECT SOMEONE THAT IS A TRUE BELIEVER. Democrats have Manchin and Synema who are soft. The rest of them are hard left. If democrats were republicans it would be all MAGA folks and one or two rino's. The R's are opposite. the NEOCON/RINO crowd is huge. MAGA is a subset. this is why democrats don't have those problem. If we had mostly Gaetz/Jim Jordan etc, this would be a non issue. We'd elect a MAGA person and get on with it. The Republicans keep throwing these shitty RINOs like McCarthy, Paul Ryan etc at us, and many of us are over it. It helps the dems to have the media making their radical policies look mainstream. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:51:32 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ITT, we reveal those who understand how the vote works, and those who do not. This is public theater to leverage McCarthy into being less of a RINO douche. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Freedom caucus is fucking this all up. Dems are laughing all the way back into power. ITT, we reveal those who understand how the vote works, and those who do not. This is public theater to leverage McCarthy into being less of a RINO douche. No it’s not. It’s nothing more than a temper tantrum by a few self described “ principled conservatives “. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:51:50 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Besides McCarthy being a Rino….. the “freedom caucus” has made untenable demands. We are watching our republic self destruct in real time. Narcissists doing narcissist things. And they are ALL narcissists. This is EXACTLY how its supposed to go. Its a perfect representation of our Country today. Do you think the Founders all got along well and agreed on everything? I mean, I guess they could start dueling. That would raise the stakes. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:52:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:53:13 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No it’s not. It’s nothing more than a temper tantrum by a few self described “ principled conservatives “. Lol. Those "principled conservatives" still pay the GOP for their committee seats. Congress is pay to play for everyone involved. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:54:22 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Besides McCarthy being a Rino .. the "freedom caucus" has made untenable demands. We are watching our republic self destruct in real time. Narcissists doing narcissist things. And they are ALL narcissists. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:54:23 PM EDT
[#27]
I hope they vote for a week straight and still don't get anywhere.
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:54:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Attempts then.  |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:55:23 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope they vote for a week straight and still don't get anywhere. A week? Make it a year 
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:55:31 PM EDT
[#30]
There is no Left.
There is no Right. There is only corruption and treason. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:55:35 PM EDT
[#31]
C-SPAN confirms, McCarthy does not have the votes.
Third speaker vote expected. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:57:15 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No it’s not. It’s nothing more than a temper tantrum by a few self described “ principled conservatives “. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Freedom caucus is fucking this all up. Dems are laughing all the way back into power. ITT, we reveal those who understand how the vote works, and those who do not. This is public theater to leverage McCarthy into being less of a RINO douche. No it’s not. It’s nothing more than a temper tantrum by a few self described “ principled conservatives “. Factually incorrect. McCarthy has already conceded a bit. Just calling it something does not make it so. Sorry. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:57:21 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: C-SPAN confirms, McCarthy does not have the votes. Third speaker vote expected. good |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:57:37 PM EDT
[#34]
This stupid grandstanding is why we lose elections. What do they think they are going to get by doing this? This so called Freedom Caucus are acting like dumbasses for what exactly?
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Posted: 1/3/2023 3:58:38 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it's like a regular election they will just keep counting until the uniparty leadership gets who they want. "Oh look we found an uncounted box of ayes under the speakers podium" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Attempts then.  A) you can only vote if you're present B) votes are live, verbal and recorded on TV |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:00:40 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This stupid grandstanding is why we lose elections. What do they think they are going to get by doing this? This so called Freedom Caucus are acting like dumbasses for what exactly? For the ability to remove McCarthy by a vote. Right now, only the Congress leadership (swamp) can call a vote to change the speaker (Pelosi put this in place to solidify her leadership). McCarthy has conceded that 5 R's can call for a vote. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:01:42 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol, swamp political theatre, makes zero difference who gets picked. BINGO! |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:02:35 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This stupid grandstanding is why we lose elections. What do they think they are going to get by doing this? This so called Freedom Caucus are acting like dumbasses for what exactly? Maybe people voting for Jordan are voting the wishes of the people they represent. You know, what Congress critters are suppose to do? The Constitutional Republic was founded on what we are watching, it is the very system that prevents mob rule through pure democracy. Long live the Republic. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:03:10 PM EDT
[#39]
As long as you continue to follow the same failed leadership nothing will change.
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:04:30 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It does matter, and throwing a tantrum in the House and risking the Speakership isn't going to get us where we need to go. The Freedom Caucus and Biggs already tried to get the Speakership. They lost. There was already an election, and they lost. There is no possible scenario at this point that'll change that outcome. The ONLY potential outcomes are: 1) McCarthy wins, 2) Someone like Scalise steps in and wins, or 3) a handful of RINOs join with Democrats to elect a "unity" candidate who would be much, much worse than McCarthy I'd like to see Scalise take it but that's not likely based on the reporting we have. And yes, it does matter, because the Speaker will determine who gets what committee assignments and what investigations can take place. Or not. Oh, and what legislation hits the floor. Yes, that matters. A lot. All this bullshit does is make the entire party look like a bunch of fucking incompetent clowns. And... That's an accurate assessment so far. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:05:00 PM EDT
[#41]
Frigging clown world, doing everything they can to keep dems in charge
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:06:04 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh boy, lets waste more untold dollars and time on congressional hearing and investigations that accomplish jack shit, maybe they can appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the last special prosecutor. What we really need is more prime time televised congressional hearings. Can we get better producer next time? Maybe Spielburg or Scorsese will do it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It does matter, and throwing a tantrum in the House and risking the Speakership isn't going to get us where we need to go. The Freedom Caucus and Biggs already tried to get the Speakership. They lost. There was already an election, and they lost. There is no possible scenario at this point that'll change that outcome. The ONLY potential outcomes are: 1) McCarthy wins, 2) Someone like Scalise steps in and wins, or 3) a handful of RINOs join with Democrats to elect a "unity" candidate who would be much, much worse than McCarthy I'd like to see Scalise take it but that's not likely based on the reporting we have. And yes, it does matter, because the Speaker will determine who gets what committee assignments and what investigations can take place. Or not. Oh, and what legislation hits the floor. Yes, that matters. A lot. All this bullshit does is make the entire party look like a bunch of fucking incompetent clowns. And... That's an accurate assessment so far. One has already been appointed to go after T$. So only the dems get to go that route? |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:06:13 PM EDT
[#43]
McCarthy should step back and endorse Jordan.
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:06:22 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Factually incorrect. McCarthy has already conceded a bit. Just calling it something does not make it so. Sorry. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Freedom caucus is fucking this all up. Dems are laughing all the way back into power. ITT, we reveal those who understand how the vote works, and those who do not. This is public theater to leverage McCarthy into being less of a RINO douche. No it’s not. It’s nothing more than a temper tantrum by a few self described “ principled conservatives “. Factually incorrect. McCarthy has already conceded a bit. Just calling it something does not make it so. Sorry. Dude. You are too emotionally invested in this to be rational about it. McCarthy already gave the shrills the ability to cast a new vote for speaker if they are not satisfied as the session progresses. This is nothing more than grand standing by a few and it’s fucking up the ability of the Republicans to start on investigations and etc. I truly hope McCarthy goes scorched search on these guys - no committee memberships and primary them. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:06:29 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Besides McCarthy being a Rino….. the “freedom caucus” has made untenable demands. We are watching our republic self destruct in real time. Narcissists doing narcissist things. And they are ALL narcissists. Untenable? Returning to the rules the House operated under for over 100 years until Nancy took over? |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:08:16 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This stupid grandstanding is why we lose elections. What do they think they are going to get by doing this? This so called Freedom Caucus are acting like dumbasses for what exactly?  It's right there in their name 
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:08:30 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Divide the right. You're doing a great job. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:08:30 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For the ability to remove McCarthy by a vote. Right now, only the Congress leadership (swamp) can call a vote to change the speaker (Pelosi put this in place to solidify her leadership). McCarthy has conceded that 5 R's can call for a vote. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This stupid grandstanding is why we lose elections. What do they think they are going to get by doing this? This so called Freedom Caucus are acting like dumbasses for what exactly? For the ability to remove McCarthy by a vote. Right now, only the Congress leadership (swamp) can call a vote to change the speaker (Pelosi put this in place to solidify her leadership). McCarthy has conceded that 5 R's can call for a vote. THAT is a start. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:08:58 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude. You are too emotionally invested in this to be rational about it. McCarthy already gave the shrills the ability to cast a new vote for speaker if they are not satisfied as the session progresses. This is nothing more than grand standing by a few and it’s fucking up the abaility of the Republicans to start on investigations and etc. Investigations keep the hoipoli entertained while they continue their BS behind the scenes. Fuck investigations that do nothing and have no teeth. Control the $$ for once to get shit done. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:11:00 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude. You are too emotionally invested in this to be rational about it. McCarthy already gave the shrills the ability to cast a new vote for speaker if they are not satisfied as the session progresses. This is nothing more than grand standing by a few and it’s fucking up the ability of the Republicans to start on investigations and etc. I truly hope McCarthy goes scorched search on these guys - no committee memberships and primary them. ^^^ THIS is why the swamp stays deep.^^^ JFC... |
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