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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:33:21 PM EDT
[#1]
IMO, Kyle walks, it's going to be a roller coaster but whatever means actually happens - he leaves the courthouse a free man
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:33:42 PM EDT
[#2]
I guess openly carrying a mean look or threatening facial hair will be next on the "What threatening us today?"
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:33:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I took it as so inconsequential that it wasn't worth fighting over. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Now that I see the photo I am more angry the judge let it in. That does not show jack shit. I don't see a rifle pointed at anyone. I took it as so inconsequential that it wasn't worth fighting over. It's the hinge for State's closing that Kyle was the aggressor and everything flowed from there |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:34:45 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this the actual photo being talked about? That supposedly shows Kyle pointing a rifle? That doesn't show shit and I can't believe the jury is even going to look at that. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:35:24 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryDamn. Art imitating life. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:35:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's the hinge for State's closing that Kyle was the aggressor and everything flowed from there Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Now that I see the photo I am more angry the judge let it in. That does not show jack shit. I don't see a rifle pointed at anyone. I took it as so inconsequential that it wasn't worth fighting over. It's the hinge for State's closing that Kyle was the aggressor and everything flowed from there Yep. And even if he was, he doesn’t lose ability to use lethal force when cannot retreat any further. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:36:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except when it's not. Sometimes it's more than the adjacent pixels, sometimes it's not an average. See below. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Comparison_of_1D_and_2D_interpolation.svg/1200px-Comparison_of_1D_and_2D_interpolation.svg.png You do know that each color of RGB present in a pixel contains a numeric value, correct? You can calculate an average of what the new pixel should be based on the gradient, or derivative, of the selected adjacent cells. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:37:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "interpolation"=guess.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: more added pixels more interpolation? Yes. "interpolation"=guess. I think it is obvious to everyone the ADA loves him some interpolation. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:38:30 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They have. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The defense has to file a motion for it, I believe. And they haven't done that. They have. Gotcha, thanks. There was discussion about it yesterday but nothing filed. I haven't seen the entirety of today, just pieces. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:38:46 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure that faggot Hannity has applauded Rittenhouse now but told his audience how he would have judo chopped the manlet pedo in half Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sure have been a lot of conservative pundits on Twitter and elsewhere coming out with tacit support of Rittenhouse over the last two days, now that it's safe  I'm sure that faggot Hannity has applauded Rittenhouse now but told his audience how he would have judo chopped the manlet pedo in half He trained with Chuck Liddell, Hannity's hands are registered lethal weapons. On a side note, I think he had stopped mentioning his "MMA training" |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:38:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Addition charges from state wanted. State want 2hr plus 1/2 rebuttal. They want to add charges for that image? Holy smokes. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:39:05 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah well that shitty photo actually shows jack shit. I'm beyond pissed at the judge now. He never should have allowed a photo in that isn't clear as day. There is no clear view of a rifle being aimed at anyone. What in gods name did he see? Let the jurors decide it shows nothing. "Ehrmagerd! The judge threw out the key piece of evidence that would have convicted him!!" |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:39:09 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You do know that each color of RGB present in a pixel contains a numeric value, correct? You can calculate an average of what the new pixel should be based on the gradient, or derivative, of the selected adjacent cells. Which can do things like distort shadows and angles. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:39:45 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: generally just trying not to give any sort of emotion on the stand But it looked emotional. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:40:00 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn. Art imitating life. Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn. Art imitating life. Actually, life imitating art, in this case... |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:41:04 PM EDT
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When I do photo editing, even when trying to get the highest fidelity image, I often get shapes that simply WERE NOT THERE just through the normal process of enlargement, levels, contrast, etc. If I put something to the mercy of the matrix algebra colloquially called AI, used in "smart" enlargement algorithms, I will often get things that are horrifically wrong. I have some noise reduction software, this would "clean up an image", this software is a couple hundred bucks; it usually does a great job; but, I can never, never ever use it to for noise reduction involving the Milky Way - it simply makes stuff up that looks like a van Gogh.
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:41:10 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Negative. It messes with jury instructions and confuses the jury. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Adding lesser charges is an “Oh fuck we’re gonna lose, throw a Hail Mary.” Negative. It messes with jury instructions and confuses the jury. It's all part of the lawyer game, they do this all the time.. it doesn't mean the judge will allow the lesser charges.. the defense gets to challenge it. Remember during ZMan's trial, at this stage the prosecution advised they would request to add add a charge of 1st Degree Child Abuse, because Martin was under 18. Don West absolutely lost his shit in front of the judge when he heard this and the Judge (even that liberal whacko) said she was not going to allow that. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:41:10 PM EDT
[#18]
So is it normal that the prosecutor add a bunch of bullshit charges at the end of a trial that he got his ass handed to him ?
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:41:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:42:23 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: bicubic https://hancraftedchimes.files.wordpress.com/2021/11/bicubic.jpg nearest neighbor https://hancraftedchimes.files.wordpress.com/2021/11/nearest-neighbor.jpg just blown up from a red and blue pixel next to each other to 200x100  |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:43:53 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: you cannot create detail. You can expose detail, but you cannot create detail. the AI is still making a best guess effort, using the available data. It is only as good as the initial data it has to work with. If I have to spend 3 days tweaking the settings until to make the output show what I want, I created the image just as surely as da Vinci created the Mona Lisa. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:44:42 PM EDT
[#22]
Too bad Kyle didn't have fox labs. He maybe could have just hosed dude down. I'm sure he wishes he had not gone to Kenosha that night. I pray it's a not guilty or it's thrown out with prejudice.
on another note, I did send the ADA a little email. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:44:56 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Surrendering would constitute walking or running away, or giving up his gun. Lefty did none of those things. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There were numerous other people around who "surrendered" - did not attack and withdrew from Kyle. They're clearly visible in photos and videos, one just a few feet behind misty bicep. Surrendering would constitute walking or running away, or giving up his gun. Lefty did none of those things. And lefty got shot when he pointed his gun at KR and advanced, while those behind him backed away and did not. KR did very well indeed on his shoot/no shoot test! |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:45:14 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So is it normal that the prosecutor add a bunch of bullshit charges at the end of a trial that he got his ass handed to him ? Remember, in a Democratic Idiocracy like ours justice is retarded. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:45:30 PM EDT
[#25]
IMHO, the fact that the ADA is asking for so much time for closing, equates to I have jack shit on the murder charges.
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:46:07 PM EDT
[#26]
The state's imaging expert does not have the technical basis to say what he is saying. He's making stuff up. He's guessing. He has never, ever, never ever done so much as worked through the mathematical process of something like a discrete cosine transform, which is the very foundation, the starting point, of almost everything entered into evidence so far in this trial.
DuBruin's images might be the exception. The state, ironically called out DuBruin's images as also prone to these enlargement problems, but the irony is that DeBruin's images probably had the least compression to start with, and the prints he made, were probably , with the exception of the largest prints, are probably pixel for pixel from the original file. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:46:17 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So is it normal that the prosecutor add a bunch of bullshit charges at the end of a trial that he got his ass handed to him ? I don't know if it's normal, but I do remember the prosecutors tried to do it with Zimmerman. I think it was something like child endangerment, but the judge wouldn't allow it. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:46:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:46:38 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. And even if he was, he doesn’t lose ability to use lethal force when cannot retreat any further. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Now that I see the photo I am more angry the judge let it in. That does not show jack shit. I don't see a rifle pointed at anyone. I took it as so inconsequential that it wasn't worth fighting over. It's the hinge for State's closing that Kyle was the aggressor and everything flowed from there Yep. And even if he was, he doesn’t lose ability to use lethal force when cannot retreat any further. Heard a shot, a yell and footsteps, turned, assessed, didn’t fire, continued to flea. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:47:20 PM EDT
[#30]
Comments on this? ( Colion hasn't been watching has he?)
Kyle Rittenhouse Prosecutor Says Hollow Point Bullets ‘Explode’ Showing Firearm Ignorance  Kyle Rittenhouse Prosecutor Says Hollow Point Bullets ‘Explode’ Showing Firearm Ignorance |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:47:59 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: INTERPOLATION DOESNT ADD DETAIL, BUT SMART RESIZE USING AI CAN. FAGGOT |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:48:20 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Comments on this? ( Colion hasn't been watching has he?) Kyle Rittenhouse Prosecutor Says Hollow Point Bullets ‘Explode’ Showing Firearm Ignorance  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToPNiGW4WJoIsn’t Colion a lawyer? |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:49:40 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Too bad Kyle didn't have fox labs. He maybe could have just hosed dude down. I'm sure he wishes he had not gone to Kenosha that night. I pray it's a not guilty or it's thrown out with prejudice. on another note, I did send the ADA a little email. If you fear for your life, deadly force is the only response. If you didn't fear for your life, pepper spray may be applicable. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:49:51 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The state's imaging expert does not have the technical basis to say what he is saying. He's making stuff up. He's guessing. He has never, ever, never ever done so much as worked through the mathematical process of something like a discrete cosine transform, which is the very foundation, the starting point, of almost everything entered into evidence so far in this trial. DuBruin's images might be the exception. The state, ironically called out DuBruin's images as also prone to these enlargement problems, but the irony is that DeBruin's images probably had the least compression to start with, and the prints he made, were probably , with the exception of the largest prints, are probably pixel for pixel from the original file. Hey he can open the software and click buttons and he passed the multiple guess test (maybe) who needs accuracy. Sounds like some engineers I know. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:50:06 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn’t Colion a lawyer? Yes. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:50:52 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn’t Colion a lawyer? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Comments on this? ( Colion hasn't been watching has he?) Kyle Rittenhouse Prosecutor Says Hollow Point Bullets ‘Explode’ Showing Firearm Ignorance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToPNiGW4WJoIsn’t Colion a lawyer? He claims to be a lawyer. ( I usually agree with him) |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:51:55 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, and IMO IF he did point the gun, he needed to say that. For instance, "I heard something, turned and saw Mr. Zaminsky raising a firearm. I briefly brought my rifle up then, determined no threat then saw Pedo man running towards me". Instead, IF the image as small as it is, shows an AR15 parallel to the ground..he's cooked IMO. Everything thereafter is no self defense. Not so Hon. Justice BRS. Even if Kyle became the initial agressor by raising his weapon, which IMO he wouldnt, he unequiviocally ceased being an agressor when he turned and fled. At that point he has the right to act in self defense. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:52:11 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You do know that each color of RGB present in a pixel contains a numeric value, correct? You can calculate an average of what the new pixel should be based on the gradient, or derivative, of the selected adjacent cells. Except you're still guessing that the new pixels should be an average of the adjacent ones. By that logic, if you looked at blood under a microscope it would just be solid red, not clear fluid with distinct red and white cells. The interpolation would be incorrect. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:52:13 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm terrible at eye games, so there's that, but I can't even tell it's a person in those photos, let alone where the gun is pointing.
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:53:53 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine a world where a white man shoots 3 other white men, who are yelling racist epitaphs and attempting to destroy a business owned by People of Color, and it's considered an example of white supremacy. Fuckin clown world. While two of the three can get epitaphs, I think the word you're looking for is "epithet." |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:55:23 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's obviously a Bigfoot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm terrible at eye games, so there's that, but I can't even tell it's a person in those photos, let alone where the gun is pointing. It's "Boigfoot". You need to interpolate the letters just like in image. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:56:00 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. And even if he was, he doesn’t lose ability to use lethal force when cannot retreat any further. He doesnt lose the lethal force argument if he was pursued. He disengaged... pretty sure theres been cases with "bad guy" disengages and runs away but is followed and uses lethal force to defend himself and it was ruled self defense. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:56:06 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rittenhouse is fucked, IMO. "Lesser included charges" Literally no chance he walks at this point. Trial has been politicized too far. Having 3 days to intimidate and harrass any potential jurors - as well as for ANTIFAGs to start burning and threatening to loot what's left of Kenosha. Lesser includeds shouldn’t be an issue, that’s for the homicide and attempted homicide charges, and his entire defense has been the affirmative defense of self-defense which are equally applicable to the lesser includeds. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:56:16 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually, life imitating art, in this case... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Damn. Art imitating life. Actually, life imitating art, in this case... You should watch the movie “BlowUp” by Antonionio, or “Blow Out” the movie based on the Italian movie (that substituted sound instead of photography). The protagonist sees something in a picture that he is sure is murder, and the more he blows up the picture from the negative the weirder it gets. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:58:24 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Except when it's not. Sometimes it's more than the adjacent pixels, sometimes it's not an average. See below. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Comparison_of_1D_and_2D_interpolation.svg/1200px-Comparison_of_1D_and_2D_interpolation.svg.png So you're saying it's a guess to make the picture pretty? |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:58:29 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Apparently. Now they get to add Murder 3, Manslaughter 1/3, etc. And don't forget littering! Young Kyle left his shell casings behind so they have him dead to rights. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:58:42 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tomorrow is some kind of non-jury related discussions. Monday the jury will be back. So the case will be decided by Maxine Waters, again. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 6:59:46 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He doesnt lose the lethal force argument if he was pursued. He disengaged... pretty sure theres been cases with "bad guy" disengages and runs away but is followed and uses lethal force to defend himself and it was ruled self defense. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep. And even if he was, he doesn’t lose ability to use lethal force when cannot retreat any further. He doesnt lose the lethal force argument if he was pursued. He disengaged... pretty sure theres been cases with "bad guy" disengages and runs away but is followed and uses lethal force to defend himself and it was ruled self defense. Correct. It just says duty to retreat even in the most fucked up states. If you can’t retreat further lethal force is lawful. That’s not what happened here. Just saying no matter what prosecutor tries to prove, and that’s the angle he’s going for, lethal force was still justified. It’s all on damn video. Never been a more clear case of self defense. And it’s all on video. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 7:00:21 PM EDT
[#49]
Judge should allow any additional charges…..that were true billed by the grand jury.
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Posted: 11/11/2021 7:00:41 PM EDT
[#50]
I'm working this drone video in Adobe premiere, and I can't make out any actions Kyle does, especially anything conclusive showing him pointing a gun. Admittedly, the original file is probably better than hijacked video from YouTube.
Anyone have a good link to the drone video? The one I found was from a 720p news broadcast |
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