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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:36:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What happened with the Grayslake police & the ballistic vest & AZ university enrollment? Heard it brought up but couldn't watch whole trial or read all of this thread to find out. I'm guessing Kyle meant University of Phoenix, a well known online school, and mistakenly called it AZ U or U of AZ (don't remember what he said). |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:37:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because he was an FBI asset and his phone would reveal very inconvenient information? And all the shit he texted after getting shot, and the texts organizing the riot, etc. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:38:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't even figure out which one is supposed to be Kyle.  I can sort of see something that looks like kyle pointing a rifle if I am first told where it is and what I am supposed to be looking for. Flimsy is an extreme understatement. I would probably see lots of stuff in that pic if I was told it was there. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:40:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For like a brief frame or two it kind of but doesn't really look like something horizontal sticking out at about shoulder height. Could be a low ready position, which with the Ziminkis retard brandishing a pistol towards Kyle isn't really an initial aggressive action. Ziminkis is heard on one of the videos at that time saying "You ain't gonna do shit" or something to that effect. It's like an optical illusion where I can see it for a bit then it flips back and I don't see anything. It is the figure passing infront of the sign post by the way. ... And the ADA and GG tried to say the Glock wasn't pointed at Kyle'a head just his general direction. Reminded me of this scene from Ole Bill Shakespeare  Romeo and Juliet Petrol Station Scene |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:40:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CNN already saying the judge is a racist https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/11/us/kenosha-judge-bruce-schroeder-asian-food-comments/index.html 
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:41:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And all the shit he texted after getting shot, and the texts organizing the riot, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because he was an FBI asset and his phone would reveal very inconvenient information? And all the shit he texted after getting shot, and the texts organizing the riot, etc. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:43:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It takes 2 views to create perspective. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are only a couple angles of view which would clearly prove Kyle was pointing his carbine at the Zaminskis - and, to my knowledge, no such photos exist. Were I the judge, I'd not allow any other images to be presented as demonstrating the assertion that such an event actually happened. No way - and especially if the Zaminskis were cropped out of the image. That's total BS. It takes 2 views to create perspective. Exactly: and in this case, from behind and in front. Anything else is conjecture, at best. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:44:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope he is waiting on the "additional" charges. Anyone who doesn't see what is going on here is blind. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's stopping the judge from dismissing with prejudice? I hope he is waiting on the "additional" charges. Anyone who doesn't see what is going on here is blind. Retaliatory prosecution |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:44:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm guessing Kyle meant University of Phoenix, a well known online school, and mistakenly called it AZ U or U of AZ (don't remember what he said). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What happened with the Grayslake police & the ballistic vest & AZ university enrollment? Heard it brought up but couldn't watch whole trial or read all of this thread to find out. I'm guessing Kyle meant University of Phoenix, a well known online school, and mistakenly called it AZ U or U of AZ (don't remember what he said). Most Colleges and Universities are offering online programs now. From what was reported here, his lawyers offered to have him login into the schools online portal in court. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:45:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not an expert, but it should be telling they did not call Ziminski to testify that Kyle pointed an AR15 at him That is uhh, quite an omission..huh. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:45:34 PM EDT
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What’s worse in this thread? Doomers or “fbi strobe on everyone” posters?
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:46:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Crazy rosenbaum should have been sprayed as kye calmly walked away. I bet the pedo has been sprayed 200 times in his life, and he would have fucked Kyle up or killed him if he had sprayed pedo. He was a discipline problem in prison, and pretty much anywhere he went. He is the perfect disposable shitbag for furthering a cause. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:46:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Judge should have sequestered the jury... there's no way they dont see the news/interweb/opinions over 3 days. Hows that bad for us when they see the judge ripping into the prosecution? |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:48:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet the pedo has been sprayed 200 times in his life, and he would have fucked Kyle up or killed him if he had sprayed pedo. He was a discipline problem in prison, and pretty much anywhere he went. He is the perfect disposable shitbag for furthering a cause. People like that are destined to end up with their birth certificate revoked at some point. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:48:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:49:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not saying Kyle was a soldier, but look how many times one would looking through an optic at noises or movements. As a hunter I would do that often. It is no different than looking through mirrors when you are driving. It is a non issue for those that have the ability to be rational/logical Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't believe Kyle did, and I don't believe that the video shows that he did, but even if Kyle pointed his rifle at Ziminsky and provoked an attack, so what? He's disengaging and making it obviously known he's disengaging, he's still entitled to defend himself in those circumstances. I am not saying Kyle was a soldier, but look how many times one would looking through an optic at noises or movements. As a hunter I would do that often. It is no different than looking through mirrors when you are driving. It is a non issue for those that have the ability to be rational/logical As a Soldier, sure. As a hunter, F no. that is what binoc's are for. If I heard a noise, meaning something is close by, the firearm is at ready [usually muzzle low] but not actually aimed at anything and is pointed in a safe direction. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:51:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm working this drone video in Adobe premiere, and I can't make out any actions Kyle does, especially anything conclusive showing him pointing a gun. Admittedly, the original file is probably better than hijacked video from YouTube. Anyone have a good link to the drone video? The one I found was from a 720p news broadcast Have you tried pinching and zooming yet? Interpolate the pixels in MSPaint, man. Then get it peer reviewed. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:51:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Judge should have sequestered the jury... there's no way they dont see the news/interweb/opinions over 3 days. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Listened to everything while driving today, wish I could've kept up here. So everything tomorrow is procedural and the trial resumes on Monday? Judge should have sequestered the jury... there's no way they dont see the news/interweb/opinions over 3 days. I cant even believe they are allowing this farce to go over the weekend. So much time for intimidation and tampering |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:51:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What happened with the Grayslake police & the ballistic vest & AZ university enrollment? Heard it brought up but couldn't watch whole trial or read all of this thread to find out. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:52:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uploading another video. I cannot match this still frame to anything close in the video. This submitted picture shows a pretty clear left handed weaver style stance, and I just don't see it anywhere. I don't want to say it's a fake doctored photo, but I'm not seeing it in the video. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD8qOFQXIAUHEF9?format=jpg&name=medium I can’t make out anything there. It looks to me like the car and Kyle are blending together so part of the car and a reflection of the car are making what could appear to be him holding a rifle up. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:53:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And the mob burns down the judge's house. And if he's lucky, that's all that happens. Maybe some patriots need to be there to make sure it doesn't happen. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:54:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is uhh, quite an omission..huh. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not an expert, but it should be telling they did not call Ziminski to testify that Kyle pointed an AR15 at him That is uhh, quite an omission..huh. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:55:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can sort of see something that looks like kyle pointing a rifle if I am first told where it is and what I am supposed to be looking for. Flimsy is an extreme understatement. I would probably see lots of stuff in that pic if I was told it was there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I can't even figure out which one is supposed to be Kyle. I can sort of see something that looks like kyle pointing a rifle if I am first told where it is and what I am supposed to be looking for. Flimsy is an extreme understatement. I would probably see lots of stuff in that pic if I was told it was there. That's how suggestion works. The persecution is now relying on a gaslighting trick to get a conviction. Hopefully it doesn't work but I have no faith in my fellow Americans. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:55:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was humour he'd have to lie on the stand if he said anything other than what was on his timesheet... which no doubt exists.  Attached File(Twangy voice) Where you from, boy? This is ‘Mericuh. Around here we spell “humor” with an “h-u-m-o-r”. (/voice) |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 8:59:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, yeah, but.... let's face it.... considering what happened to him, if he hadn't had that AR with him, he'd be dead now. Anybody disagree? Defense needed to demonstrate that it could have been turned on him even with the sling. POS I mean Pros said rosenbaum couldn't have hurt kyle because of the sling. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:02:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:03:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because he was an FBI asset and his phone would reveal very inconvenient information?  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:03:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't see it at all  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BqjVMVLFYYhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD8qOFQXIAUHEF9?format=jpg&name=medium Neither do I, even the "enhanced" still shots lack the detail to see who it is or what they are doing. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:03:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm guessing Kyle meant University of Phoenix, a well known online school, and mistakenly called it AZ U or U of AZ (don't remember what he said). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What happened with the Grayslake police & the ballistic vest & AZ university enrollment? Heard it brought up but couldn't watch whole trial or read all of this thread to find out. I'm guessing Kyle meant University of Phoenix, a well known online school, and mistakenly called it AZ U or U of AZ (don't remember what he said). He said ASU, and he surely meant a distance learning / remote program. Also, there's more than one physical ASU campus location, and they're not all located in Phx metro. As bama shooter pointed out earlier, whoever he works for gives/loans out vests for explorer programs. I'm sure something similar is the case here. The pattern with this prosecution is they throw out bullshit, without any due diligence giving to actually verifying if it's true or not, and hope it sticks. They've done it time & time again. Mark my words - they're talking about their asses. Kyle isn't lying about stupid stuff like that that would be so easy to prove otherwise were it not true. No way his attorney's would allow it. They were the questions the defense asked him... the very first ones. No way they're going to lead his defense with falsehoods, especially when they're not even related to the facts of the case (the vest - a little - but still, they wouldn't lie about that). Slime-ball prosecutor just wanted to add a few more lies right at the end to confuse the jury and seed doubt. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:05:44 PM EDT
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The lefties are ramping up the propaganda machine. Threats against the judge, threats to dox the jury.
They're going to make it so everyone is scared to do the right thing and they get *some* conviction. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:06:21 PM EDT
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Its...not like the FBI was around or anything...in this Gretchen Whittmer thing.
Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s worse in this thread? Doomers or “fbi strobe on everyone” posters? |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:06:54 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't see it at all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BqjVMVLFYYhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD8qOFQXIAUHEF9?format=jpg&name=medium Is the second pic supposed to make the second person look like they are in a wheelchair and make Kyle have stubby legs? This is one hell of a hack editing job. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:10:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:10:23 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryPerfect. If that's the best evidence those fucktards have it's over. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:12:29 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. He did 10+ years in prison and was no stranger to pain. Kyle kills him or Rosenbaum takes the rifle and shoots or beats Kyle to death with it. Pepper spray, mace, saps/blackjacks, or ax handles in a Kyle vs Rosenbaum fight result in Kyle dead every time. And then Pedo Joe names the next Naval Vessel The Rosenbaum. I hate liberals. Friggen clown world. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:14:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is uhh, quite an omission..huh. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not an expert, but it should be telling they did not call Ziminski to testify that Kyle pointed an AR15 at him That is uhh, quite an omission..huh. I hope the defense hammers that home on closing arguments. I also hope Chirafisi does it and not Richards. Richards is a fucking horrible public speaker. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:15:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That photo is a perfect example of the spatial and time compression artifacts that develop in compressed video. We are making a good assumption that the flooring behind him runs in straight lines. But, look at the distortion of those straight lines around his head, most notably by his right ear. The shape we see in that photograph is not representative of reality. Now, stabilize these already compressed images, enlarge the new footage, increase/decrease the levels to the point of clipping or getting inside bit depth limitations, and then maybe do some other manipulation on this newly truncated data, and many of shapes and shadows you end up with are nothing but artifacts, that may or may not be representative of what was really there. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:15:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryMe on occasion. It’s not against any laws in my area. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:16:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People like that are destined to end up with their birth certificate revoked at some point. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I bet the pedo has been sprayed 200 times in his life, and he would have fucked Kyle up or killed him if he had sprayed pedo. He was a discipline problem in prison, and pretty much anywhere he went. He is the perfect disposable shitbag for furthering a cause. People like that are destined to end up with their birth certificate revoked at some point. People like that should be the biggest take away from this whole thing. Those people weren’t there by accident. While we raise families and go to work, the left seeks out hardened criminals to do its dirty work. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:16:30 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Perfect. If that's the best evidence those fucktards have it's over. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:17:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CNN already saying the judge is a racist https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/11/us/kenosha-judge-bruce-schroeder-asian-food-comments/index.html One of the two Asian restaurants that do delivery there is called Oriental Inn. Referring to that as Asian food seems perfectly reasonable. I imagine if if was sushi or Thai, he would have said that. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:17:56 PM EDT
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So, when LF asked DH about a disparaging remark he posted about Rosenbaum, DH asked him to tell him what he posted so he could confirm it. LF let it drop without ever saying what was posted. I wonder if the disparaging remark was that Rosenbaum was a convicted pedo.
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:18:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What would be the charge? Dead people don't file appeals. GG can't say his rights were violated when he brought a gun and was concealed carrying with an expired license. Nothing about R-A-C-E in the videos or the actions by KR. They talked about this on one of the LawTube channels and the DOJ is going to struggle to find a way to take this over if its a NG verdict. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think the feds can still charge and it isn't double jeopardy because they'll be looking at a different 'scope' on the federal level. I'm worried they'll go after him next. What would be the charge? Dead people don't file appeals. GG can't say his rights were violated when he brought a gun and was concealed carrying with an expired license. Nothing about R-A-C-E in the videos or the actions by KR. They talked about this on one of the LawTube channels and the DOJ is going to struggle to find a way to take this over if its a NG verdict. They can say he violated the dead people's rights also civil trials |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:20:50 PM EDT
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Quote Historylol best one yet |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:21:55 PM EDT
[#45]
At 6:22:36 of today's trial. It sure looks like the Judge takes about a 2oz shot of bourbon?
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:23:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I still don't believe that photo is legitimate. Nothing in the video even closely puts Kyle in that position Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Perfect. If that's the best evidence those fucktards have it's over. Not to mention Kyle is right handed. That pixelated image looks like a left handed stance. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:24:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:24:13 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I cant even believe they are allowing this farce to go over the weekend. So much time for intimidation and tampering Yep that was my first thought. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:24:45 PM EDT
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Comments from the CNN article concerning the Asian food comment made by the judge.
Hopefully Yin will be along shortly to counter these claims... "It harms our community and puts us in the crosshairs of micro aggressions as well as actual physical violence," said John Yang, president and executive director of Asian Americans Advancing Justice-AAJC. Yang said it's clear the judge doesn't have cultural sensitivity. His remarks were meant to denigrate or minimize Asian Americans and "any Asian American that sees or hears his statement will understand that he is making fun of or mocking our community." "This is a great illustration of how Asian Americans are not immune from racial bias and discrimination in our criminal justice system," Yang said. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 9:25:22 PM EDT
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I'm surprised there hasn't been any serious discussion about how he had the gun. As I understand it there was money exchanged, his money. But beyond that he was basically borrowing a rifle.
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