[ARCHIVED THREAD] - LWRC vs. F&D (Page 9 of 11)
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Yep thats him! What are you doing still posting? Considering that you refused to answer my challenge and willingness to drive all the way to Georgia to whoop your butt in a shooting match between you and your REPR vs me and my FD308? Not being a competitive shooter myself, that is a disgrace for you to still be here running your mouth. |
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Quoted: I nay be frunnk but your an idiot all I got fr you  Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No, I don't, like I said, I've had no next-door neighbors for years and years. [/span] [span style='font-weight: bold;']ETA - I Googled around a little, and apparently you didn't make much of an impression on me, cause it ain't ringing a bell. But your tone sounds like that outfit in south Round Rock that sprang onto ARFcom a few years back with the end-all-be-all announcement that their 308 " ... would surely dominate." Your ONLY Texas competitor, who started building rifles at the same time you did, right down the road from you (less than a few miles), and you don't know... Riiiight... You know Mark (and Ill be Frank), I will let you know that I have always spoken favorably about you (referencing you to Brad Thor), your company (referencing numerous potential customers to it), and your products for quite a long time, and I have recommended/referred many tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of dollars in sales to you for which I could not fulfill myself due to capacity/funding limitations. With that said... I did and still do manufacture a nicer rifle, and by-golly... people who know me, like me! I imagine you're the same way... more or less. Otherwise, you... like the LWRC boys... pretend not to know about me simply because you are fearful that I will eventually take your market share. I nay be frunnk but your an idiot all I got fr you This is now my favorite thread, thank you Evil_One!
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Quoted: What are you doing still posting? Considering that you refused to answer my challenge and willingness to drive all the way to Georgia to whoop your butt in a shooting match between you and your REPR vs me and my FD308? Not being a competitive shooter myself, that is a disgrace for you to still be here running your mouth. Quoted: Quoted: Yep thats him! What are you doing still posting? Considering that you refused to answer my challenge and willingness to drive all the way to Georgia to whoop your butt in a shooting match between you and your REPR vs me and my FD308? Not being a competitive shooter myself, that is a disgrace for you to still be here running your mouth. Didn't we go over this on the last page? I will restate: I could not get access to my friends range on short notice at appropriate times. I work Mon-Fri 9-6 and pick my 15 month up promptly at 6:30 every day. Saturdays I work 10-5 and then take care of my child. I had no time to do on on the Wednesday you were driving through after normal working hours. If you would like to reschedule a Sunday I will be agreeable as I can get someone to watch the kid, cant take him to a range. |
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What are you doing still posting? Considering that you refused to answer my challenge and willingness to drive all the way to Georgia to whoop your butt in a shooting match between you and your REPR vs me and my FD308? Not being a competitive shooter myself, that is a disgrace for you to still be here running your mouth. Quoted:
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Yep thats him! What are you doing still posting? Considering that you refused to answer my challenge and willingness to drive all the way to Georgia to whoop your butt in a shooting match between you and your REPR vs me and my FD308? Not being a competitive shooter myself, that is a disgrace for you to still be here running your mouth. scuse me while I laugh till I can breather.    
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Didn't we go over this on the last page?
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Yep thats him! What are you doing still posting? Considering that you refused to answer my challenge and willingness to drive all the way to Georgia to whoop your butt in a shooting match between you and your REPR vs me and my FD308? Not being a competitive shooter myself, that is a disgrace for you to still be here running your mouth. Didn't we go over this on the last page?
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Yep thats him! What are you doing still posting? Considering that you refused to answer my challenge and willingness to drive all the way to Georgia to whoop your butt in a shooting match between you and your REPR vs me and my FD308? Not being a competitive shooter myself, that is a disgrace for you to still be here running your mouth. Didn't we go over this on the last page?
You have forfeited your right to post here attacking me when you challenged me and refused to show up. Good bye. you obviously forfiyed your right to shut te fuck up a long tim ago cause you keep runnin yo mouth |
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Quoted: You have forfeited your right to post here attacking me when you challenged me and refused to show up. Good bye. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yep thats him! What are you doing still posting? Considering that you refused to answer my challenge and willingness to drive all the way to Georgia to whoop your butt in a shooting match between you and your REPR vs me and my FD308? Not being a competitive shooter myself, that is a disgrace for you to still be here running your mouth. Didn't we go over this on the last page? You have forfeited your right to post here attacking me when you challenged me and refused to show up. Good bye. Reading is for faggots I guess since you and I already discussed this and came to terms on why I was unable to go. Also, you are not a MOD of this forum so how exactly are you going to control wether or not I type little thingies in this box as responses and click "submit"? |
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Reading is for faggots I guess since you and I already discussed this and came to terms on why I was unable to go. Also, you are not a MOD of this forum so how exactly are you going to control wether or not I type little thingies in this box as responses and click "submit"? Quoted:
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Yep thats him! What are you doing still posting? Considering that you refused to answer my challenge and willingness to drive all the way to Georgia to whoop your butt in a shooting match between you and your REPR vs me and my FD308? Not being a competitive shooter myself, that is a disgrace for you to still be here running your mouth. Didn't we go over this on the last page?
You have forfeited your right to post here attacking me when you challenged me and refused to show up. Good bye. Reading is for faggots I guess since you and I already discussed this and came to terms on why I was unable to go. Also, you are not a MOD of this forum so how exactly are you going to control wether or not I type little thingies in this box as responses and click "submit"? lol bro he gonna sue bro cause that all he knw how to du |
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Your ONLY Texas competitor, who started building rifles at the same time you did, right down the road from you (less than a few miles), and you don't know... Riiiight... You know Mark (and Ill be Frank), I will let you know that I have always spoken favorably about you (referencing you to Brad Thor), your company (referencing numerous potential customers to it), and your products for quite a long time, and I have recommended/referred many tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of dollars in sales to you for which I could not fulfill myself due to capacity/funding limitations. With that said... I did and still do manufacture a nicer rifle, and by-golly... people who know me, like me! I imagine you're the same way... more or less. Otherwise, you... like the LWRC boys... pretend not to know about me simply because you are fearful that I will eventually take your market share. Quoted:
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No, I don't, like I said, I've had no next-door neighbors for years and years. [/span] [span style='font-weight: bold;']ETA - I Googled around a little, and apparently you didn't make much of an impression on me, cause it ain't ringing a bell. But your tone sounds like that outfit in south Round Rock that sprang onto ARFcom a few years back with the end-all-be-all announcement that their 308 " ... would surely dominate." Your ONLY Texas competitor, who started building rifles at the same time you did, right down the road from you (less than a few miles), and you don't know... Riiiight... You know Mark (and Ill be Frank), I will let you know that I have always spoken favorably about you (referencing you to Brad Thor), your company (referencing numerous potential customers to it), and your products for quite a long time, and I have recommended/referred many tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of dollars in sales to you for which I could not fulfill myself due to capacity/funding limitations. With that said... I did and still do manufacture a nicer rifle, and by-golly... people who know me, like me! I imagine you're the same way... more or less. Otherwise, you... like the LWRC boys... pretend not to know about me simply because you are fearful that I will eventually take your market share. I don't know you from Adam, but unlike you, Google is my friend. ETA - Mrs. L just Googled this up off of F&D's website - FYI - LaRue has a big "R" in it ... Value to Pricing Ratio The “value to price” ratio of F&D products in relation to our “high-end” competitors stands around 2:1. F&D invests approximately 20-40% more actual-cost into the manufacture of its rifles compared to companies offering rifles in this market such as: Larue Tactical, GAP, LWRCI, POF, LMT, JP, KAC, etc. Additionally, F&D invests approximately 30-50% more machine & labor hours into its rifles. F&D is truly in a class of its own, a tier above all competitors in quality. Quality of Engineering/Manufacturing F&D personnel with their engineering practices and manufacturing processes are top-notch, and was structured as such from the beginning. Most of our competitors were simply machine shops or rifle assemblers before becoming "rifle-manufacturers". The problem with that kind of transition is that these companies typically have never employed seasoned designers or mechanical/fluid engineers; worse, they typically do not employ workers with or encourage them to develop an innovative or inventive spirit, and would rather just crank out the same product year after year. This is why, so often, the market sees rifles that are little more than carbon copies of existing DPMS or Armalite products. F&D has introduced leading-class innovations to the autoloading market with its FD platform rifles, and will continue to do so with future products.[/span] |
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The “value to price” ratio of F&D products in relation to our “high-end” competitors stands around 2:1. F&D invests approximately 20-40% more actual-cost into the manufacture of its rifles compared to companies offering rifles in this market such as: Larue Tactical, GAP, LWRCI, POF, LMT, JP, KAC, etc. Additionally, F&D invests approximately 30-50% more machine & labor hours into its rifles. F&D is truly in a class of its own, a tier above all competitors in quality. Okay, ya got me, I'm more than a little curious where you came up with this number you are stating as if it's a fact ? Never your neighbor, Marky-Mark 
ETA - And FWIW, I met Brad Thor at a fallen warfighters memorial at Ft. Bragg in 2005. He didn't mention any neighbors of mine. ETA 2 - What do the initials F & D stand for ? |
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Quoted: Okay, ya got me, I'm more than a little curious where you came up with this number you are stating as if it's a fact ? Never your neighbor, Marky-Mark ETA - And FWIW, I met Brad Thor at a fallen warfighters memorial at Ft. Bragg in 2005. He didn't mention any neighbors of mine. ETA 2 - What do the initials F & D stand for ? Quoted: The "value to price” ratio of F&D products in relation to our "high-end” competitors stands around 2:1. F&D invests approximately 20-40% more actual-cost into the manufacture of its rifles compared to companies offering rifles in this market such as: Larue Tactical, GAP, LWRCI, POF, LMT, JP, KAC, etc. Additionally, F&D invests approximately 30-50% more machine & labor hours into its rifles. F&D is truly in a class of its own, a tier above all competitors in quality. Okay, ya got me, I'm more than a little curious where you came up with this number you are stating as if it's a fact ? Never your neighbor, Marky-Mark ETA - And FWIW, I met Brad Thor at a fallen warfighters memorial at Ft. Bragg in 2005. He didn't mention any neighbors of mine. ETA 2 - What do the initials F & D stand for ? We could play his game  Libel - noun - a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation: a written defamation
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OOOhhh hooo OOohhh... Marky-Mark... I know you didn't just jump into my thread-pond! As a fellow Texan and previously a next-door neighbor, please don't be jealous that I'm the one to up-end LWRC and not you... Quoted:
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After glancing at the last page, I've decided hipwaders are the proper footwear for this particular OST. OOOhhh hooo OOohhh... Marky-Mark... I know you didn't just jump into my thread-pond! As a fellow Texan and previously a next-door neighbor, please don't be jealous that I'm the one to up-end LWRC and not you... Dang, had I known I was bein' " called out " ... 
ShotShow 2014 - Jan 1, 2014 Due to our continued dedication to nothing but the completion of rifles that have been on order throughout 2013 and building inventory for 2014, F&D will not be attending ShotShow this year. Perhaps our competitors who are backlogged more than a year should take note! ETA - Can anybody here tell me how long has this been going on ? I feel like an old Professional Hunter that's let some young hyena sneek into camp. 
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[span style='font-weight: bold;']I don't know you from Adam, but unlike you, Google is my friend. ETA - Mrs. L just Googled this up off of F&D's website - FYI - LaRue has a big "R" in it ... [/span] Quoted:
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No, I don't, like I said, I've had no next-door neighbors for years and years. [/span] [span style='font-weight: bold;']ETA - I Googled around a little, and apparently you didn't make much of an impression on me, cause it ain't ringing a bell. But your tone sounds like that outfit in south Round Rock that sprang onto ARFcom a few years back with the end-all-be-all announcement that their 308 " ... would surely dominate." Your ONLY Texas competitor, who started building rifles at the same time you did, right down the road from you (less than a few miles), and you don't know... Riiiight... You know Mark (and Ill be Frank), I will let you know that I have always spoken favorably about you (referencing you to Brad Thor), your company (referencing numerous potential customers to it), and your products for quite a long time, and I have recommended/referred many tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of dollars in sales to you for which I could not fulfill myself due to capacity/funding limitations. With that said... I did and still do manufacture a nicer rifle, and by-golly... people who know me, like me! I imagine you're the same way... more or less. Otherwise, you... like the LWRC boys... pretend not to know about me simply because you are fearful that I will eventually take your market share. [span style='font-weight: bold;']I don't know you from Adam, but unlike you, Google is my friend. ETA - Mrs. L just Googled this up off of F&D's website - FYI - LaRue has a big "R" in it ... [/span] [span style='font-weight: bold;'][span style='color: purple;'][span style='font-size: 12pt;']Value to Pricing Ratio The “value to price” ratio of F&D products in relation to our “high-end” competitors stands around 2:1. F&D invests approximately 20-40% more actual-cost into the manufacture of its rifles compared to companies offering rifles in this market such as: Larue Tactical, GAP, LWRCI, POF, LMT, JP, KAC, etc. Additionally, F&D invests approximately 30-50% more machine & labor hours into its rifles. F&D is truly in a class of its own, a tier above all competitors in quality.[/span][/span][/span] Quality of Engineering/Manufacturing F&D personnel with their engineering practices and manufacturing processes are top-notch, and was structured as such from the beginning. Most of our competitors were simply machine shops or rifle assemblers before becoming "rifle-manufacturers". The problem with that kind of transition is that these companies typically have never employed seasoned designers or mechanical/fluid engineers; worse, they typically do not employ workers with or encourage them to develop an innovative or inventive spirit, and would rather just crank out the same product year after year. This is why, so often, the market sees rifles that are little more than carbon copies of existing DPMS or Armalite products. F&D has introduced leading-class innovations to the autoloading market with its FD platform rifles, and will continue to do so with future products.[/span] And how is that a slam against you or your products? It means you make more $ than I do. It is what it is... nothing more. So my pointed question is.... why all of a sudden are you interested in digging up a thread so far back in the GD forum, that surely only someone with a particular interest would be searching for? |
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So, you're asking Mark why he is doing the exact same things you've been doing since you joined the discussions? Diging up old ass thread posts. I have had no interest in Mark's old threads... The only old threads I dug up is the HFG/PLW LWRC threads from 2006. |
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Quoted: I have had no interest in Mark's old threads... The only old threads I dug up is the HFG/PLW LWRC threads from 2006. Quoted: Quoted: So, you're asking Mark why he is doing the exact same things you've been doing since you joined the discussions? Diging up old ass thread posts. I have had no interest in Mark's old threads... The only old threads I dug up is the HFG/PLW LWRC threads from 2006. And he's diging up the ones where you talked about his rifles. It's the exact same thing
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Mr. Nice Try,
I've now seen enough to know I am going to spend some time studying your website ... And since I owe Brad a call, I'll forward him a link to this page to vet your claim.
ETA - Says you've been micro-honing mass quantities. " 2012 ATF Report " |
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Mr. Nice Try, I've now seen enough to know I am going to spend some time studying your website ... And since I owe Brad a call, I'll forward him a link to this page to vet your claim.
ETA - Says you've been micro-honing mass quantities. " 2012 ATF Report " 
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Quoted: Quoted: Mr. Nice Try, I've now seen enough to know I am going to spend some time studying your website ... And since I owe Brad a call, I'll forward him a link to this page to vet your claim. ETA - Says you've been micro-honing mass quantities. " 2012 ATF Report " http://img.pandawhale.com/42048-Dis-gon-b-gud-gif-ngmE.gif I feel dumb asking, but what's that mean?
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HOLY SHIT, this just got real-er
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Otherwise, you... like the LWRC boys... pretend not to know about me simply because you are fearful that I will eventually take your market share. HOLY SHIT, this just got real-er
This is what I get for skimming ... I missed this nugget. Thanks for catching it, I might never have known what caused me to go tu.
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Quoted: This is what I get for skimming ... I missed this nugget. Thanks for catching it, I might never have known what caused me to go tu. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Otherwise, you... like the LWRC boys... pretend not to know about me simply because you are fearful that I will eventually take your market share. HOLY SHIT, this just got real-er This is what I get for skimming ... I missed this nugget. Thanks for catching it, I might never have known what caused me to go tu. No prob mark. Admitted LWRC fanboy and also *GASP* LaRue fanboy. Even though you once called me a "no class white trash asshole" Love ya though, I need to order some more shit, I'm down to 3 jars of dillo dust
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Quoted: ^ ^^^ ^ It was for improper use of emoticons ... Happy to report that I've toned it down these last few years.  Negative sir. It stemmed from a post where mfingar was making fun of the "branded for life" folks. I came to the defense of the tatted and may or may not have referenced a fellatio session. Your words were just and I was not offended a bit. Spent thousands with you over the years and will continue to do so. I consider it a badge of honor
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What are you doing still posting? Considering that you refused to answer my challenge and willingness to drive all the way to Georgia to whoop your butt in a shooting match between you and your REPR vs me and my FD308? Not being a competitive shooter myself, that is a disgrace for you to still be here running your mouth. Quoted:
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Yep thats him! What are you doing still posting? Considering that you refused to answer my challenge and willingness to drive all the way to Georgia to whoop your butt in a shooting match between you and your REPR vs me and my FD308? Not being a competitive shooter myself, that is a disgrace for you to still be here running your mouth. You sure as fuck wanted no part in shooting against anyone on the Hide when asked. You sure didn't like it when your investor buddy was going to take part in a match. 
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Quoted: Okay, ya got me, I'm more than a little curious where you came up with this number you are stating as if it's a fact ? Never your neighbor, Marky-Mark ETA - And FWIW, I met Brad Thor at a fallen warfighters memorial at Ft. Bragg in 2005. He didn't mention any neighbors of mine. ETA 2 - What do the initials F & D stand for ? Quoted: The "value to price” ratio of F&D products in relation to our "high-end” competitors stands around 2:1. F&D invests approximately 20-40% more actual-cost into the manufacture of its rifles compared to companies offering rifles in this market such as: Larue Tactical, GAP, LWRCI, POF, LMT, JP, KAC, etc. Additionally, F&D invests approximately 30-50% more machine & labor hours into its rifles. F&D is truly in a class of its own, a tier above all competitors in quality. Okay, ya got me, I'm more than a little curious where you came up with this number you are stating as if it's a fact ? Never your neighbor, Marky-Mark ETA - And FWIW, I met Brad Thor at a fallen warfighters memorial at Ft. Bragg in 2005. He didn't mention any neighbors of mine. ETA 2 - What do the initials F & D stand for ? |
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Mr. Nice Try, I've now seen enough to know I am going to spend some time studying your website ... And since I owe Brad a call, I'll forward him a link to this page to vet your claim.
ETA - Says you've been micro-honing mass quantities. " 2012 ATF Report " http://img.pandawhale.com/42048-Dis-gon-b-gud-gif-ngmE.gif I feel dumb asking, but what's that mean? I didn't look for F & D, but my assumption is that it lists very little as far as an AFMER report on firearms made by F & D. Hence, not much Micro-honing (setback be damned!) being done by F&D in the first place. (He doesn't make many guns.) |
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The "value to price” ratio of F&D products in relation to our "high-end” competitors stands around 2:1. F&D invests approximately 20-40% more actual-cost into the manufacture of its rifles compared to companies offering rifles in this market such as: Larue Tactical, GAP, LWRCI, POF, LMT, JP, KAC, etc. Additionally, F&D invests approximately 30-50% more machine & labor hours into its rifles. F&D is truly in a class of its own, a tier above all competitors in quality. Okay, ya got me, I'm more than a little curious where you came up with this number you are stating as if it's a fact ? Never your neighbor, Marky-Mark
ETA - And FWIW, I met Brad Thor at a fallen warfighters memorial at Ft. Bragg in 2005. He didn't mention any neighbors of mine. ETA 2 - What do the initials F & D stand for ? From just this post alone, I can see you need to have your ShredHead examined. 
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" Reserve Not Met "
So, I'm up early and was wondering exactly how these "much-more-work" rifles of "20 - 40 % more value than LaRue" were sold ... this particular More-Work-More-Value seller is in ... New Braunfels ? Another next door neighbor perhaps ? Anyhow, I may have found the Holy Grail, the coordinates to the all-hallowed Micro-Lapping / Ultra-Honing lair of el chupacabra - the legendary cryptid rumored to inhabit parts of the Americas. Yes, yes, I realize I was warned and am losing market share even as I type. 
ETA - I see I got tossed onto the etcetera scrap heap ... The FD308 boasts a much higher level quality design and manufacturing processes than all competitors including LWRC, Larue, POF, LMT, GAP, JP, etc... ETA - Looks like el .3 moa is looking for a new home, statistically speaking of course. www.fd-defense.com/fd308 FD308 Prototype (as pictured) YouTube Video Up for auction is the only FD308 prototype that will be made available for sale: SN#PT2. The barrel on this rifle has approx 2,500 rounds. Only 3 final prototypes have been manufactured of the FD308 prior to entering production. This auction presents you the opportunity for an extraordinary purchase not only because it is arguably the highest quality 308 auto-loading rifle in the world, but also that it comes with F&D's exclusive Unlimited Lifetime Warranty, offered by no other rifle-maker. SN#PT2 represents the absolute pinnacle of auto-loading firearms design and manufacturing exactness. SN2 performs at sub 1/2 MOA accuracy, often accomplishing a statistical average of .3 MOA using certain match factory ammo. The FD308 boasts a much higher level quality design and manufacturing processes than all competitors including LWRC, Larue, POF, LMT, GAP, JP, etc... Unlimited Warranty F&D's prototype model unlimited warranty is an ultimate end-user guarantee that offers the rifle owner a number of advantages over any traditional warranty, such as: free lifetime upgrades to revised & updated components, no term-limit, free replacement of all components from wear & tear (excluding barrel bore/chamber). Free lifetime replacement of all components due to unintentional & non-negligent damage. Essentially it's a rifle for life. See www.fd-defense.com/terms for complete terms of sale and warranty. FD308 Features: 308 Win, 17" match chambered, 416 stainless barrel, lapped & polished bore, utilizing a high quality barrel by Krieger Unconstrained infinitely variable tuned piston system: NP3-Plus coated, all high-temp stainless components. Quickly breaks down for cleaning and inspection. Non-reciprocating side charging handle Meticulously machined matching lower receiver, upper receiver, and rail (all serialized): exclusive hand-forged 7075-T6 aluminum, hard anodized 9.4 lbs with H4 heavy buffer, match contoured stainless barrel, and UBR stock; can be reduced to 8.4lbs with lightweight accessories Matched-pair bolt and extension: 9310 vacuum melted spacecraft grade alloy steel, case hardened, shot-peened, hand-polished, precision ground, lapped, and NP3-Plus coated Magpul 20-round P-mag; fits and feeds flawlessly Lifetime Transferable Warranty 20 minute top rail cant, for added scope range Bolt-on barrel/rail configuration for quick and repeatable barrel swaps and inspection; maintains higher rigidity than barrel-nut designs, and consolidates the absolute lowest and most compact rail-height available to any piston system. The F&D barrel interface maintains 8200lbs of rigid axial force against the upper receiver, compared to 6700lbs with barrel nuts utilized across the industry. Other "quick-change" barrel systems maintain little to no axial force against the upper receiver (LMT). Axial barrel retaining force is one of the most significant structural contributors to accuracy and consistency of AR style rifles. Magpul MIAD modular grip Custom designed, hardened, hand-polished, and NP3-Plus coated bolt catch Rail modules for accessory attachment 3rd-Party Component Features: Geissele Automatics High-Speed DMR trigger (not the cheaper SSA version) Ambidextrous safety selector Magpul UBR stock Troy Industries folding battlesights Harris bi-pod and mount shown in pictures Ships to FFL only. |
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Clearly wasting machine hours on engraving the f_cking end of the barrel extension makes his rifles better than yours, Mark. I have you know we engrave LaRue on the end of our world-renowned, high-complex, high-performance, 300 horsepower, laser straight receiver extensions ... aka buffer tubes. 
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Clearly wasting machine hours on engraving the fucking end of the barrel extension makes his rifles better than yours, Mark. I have you know we engrave LaRue on the end of our world-renowned, high-complex, high-performance, 300 horsepower, laser straight receiver extensions ... aka buffer tubes. I know. I got some
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Okay, I've read enough.
My conclusion is that a certain so-and-so puts 20% - 40% more exaggeration into things. One mystery - a few years back I wondered how in the world the "...we will surely dominate" Round Rock company, that sprang suddenly on the scene, had created this big data-base of drawings of every single doo-dad in their rifle, and then had 'em all posted up on their website - at the time I was going "wtf?" ... I even drove over to the Round Rock address posted to do some scouting, hoping to see how much market-share I had left.
Anyhow, if this F&D outfit is truly the same as the one I saw their metal building over in Round Rock, how did they jack it up and move it to New Braunfels ... ? Guess I'll go to my grave with that mystery hanging. Later neighbors, ML |
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Posted: 4/3/2014 6:02:12 PM CDT Uh, this "old" thread was last necro-posted a week ago. Uh, it was on page 20 something.... nice try. Says page 9, Mr. Nice Try. This thread was actually backed up on the GD page 58 when you "performed a diligent search, and dug it up" and decided to all of a sudden post on a dead-thread for which you had not otherwise posted on. Why? What made you do such an extensive search for it? Maybe its because of this? http://fd-defense.com/files/LWRC_NDA_Barrel_QD.pdf Oh Schnapp... did I not perform engineering work on that too for LWRC? And are you using this on your rifles today? Hmmm.... Perhaps you should use Google a little more wisely, and then crawl back into your little hole. This is big-boy territory you have "inadvertently" stumbled onto. What I do on a daily basis is far beyond what you could ever dream of (in the machine shop and on the drawing board). So keep up with your decent rifles and making money. I still applaud you for it and wish you the best going forward. |
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This thread was actually backed up on the GD page 58 when you "performed a diligent search, and dug it up" and decided to all of a sudden post on a dead-thread for which you had not otherwise posted on. Why. What made you do such an extensive search for it? Maybe its because of this? http://fd-defense.com/files/LWRC_NDA_Barrel_QD.pdf Oh Schnapp... did I not perform engineering work on that for LWRC too? And are you using this on your rifles today? Hmmm.... Perhaps you should use Google a little more wisely, and then crawl back into your little hole. This is big-boy territory you have "inadvertently" stumbled onto. What I do on a daily basis is far beyond what you could ever dream of. So keep up with your decent rifles and making money. I still applaud you for it and wish you the best going forward. Quoted:
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Posted: 4/3/2014 6:02:12 PM CDT Uh, this "old" thread was last necro-posted a week ago. Uh, it was on page 20 something.... nice try. Says page 9, Mr. Nice Try. This thread was actually backed up on the GD page 58 when you "performed a diligent search, and dug it up" and decided to all of a sudden post on a dead-thread for which you had not otherwise posted on. Why. What made you do such an extensive search for it? Maybe its because of this? http://fd-defense.com/files/LWRC_NDA_Barrel_QD.pdf Oh Schnapp... did I not perform engineering work on that for LWRC too? And are you using this on your rifles today? Hmmm.... Perhaps you should use Google a little more wisely, and then crawl back into your little hole. This is big-boy territory you have "inadvertently" stumbled onto. What I do on a daily basis is far beyond what you could ever dream of. So keep up with your decent rifles and making money. I still applaud you for it and wish you the best going forward. Big-boy ? Inadvertently ? Meh, I have 30,000 + posts and you have a hundred-something ... I took the classes, and got Goatboy to sign my certification. 
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Big-boy ? Inadvertently ? Meh, I have 30,000 + posts and you have a hundred-something ... I took the classes, and got Goatboy to sign my certification.
ETA - Link to 58 page thread ? Which tells me you couldn't possibly have the time to actually setup and run a machine, much less program one and design rifles/parts. Thanks for verifying that all you do is sit in front of a computer... while someone else does the real work over there at La"R"ue. This thread was on Page 58 yesterday when you dug it up: http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_1/5_General_Discussion.html&page=58 |
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Which tells me you couldn't possibly have the time to actually setup and run a machine, much less program one and design rifles/parts. Thanks for verifying that all you do is sit in front of a computer... while someone else does the real work over there at La"R"ue. This thread was on Page 58 yesterday when you dug it up: http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_1/5_General_Discussion.html&page=58 Quoted:
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Big-boy ? Inadvertently ? Meh, I have 30,000 + posts and you have a hundred-something ... I took the classes, and got Goatboy to sign my certification. Which tells me you couldn't possibly have the time to actually setup and run a machine, much less program one and design rifles/parts. Thanks for verifying that all you do is sit in front of a computer... while someone else does the real work over there at La"R"ue. This thread was on Page 58 yesterday when you dug it up: http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_1/5_General_Discussion.html&page=58 There's about 150 folks at LT ... and I bought my first CNC in 1983 ... and have about 120 of them new-fangled self-millin' gizmos here now. Just wished I could figure out what all them buttons mean. 
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Which tells me you couldn't possibly have the time to actually setup and run a machine, much less program one and design rifles/parts. Thanks for verifying that all you do is sit in front of a computer... while someone else does the real work over there at La"R"ue. This thread was on Page 58 yesterday when you dug it up: http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_1/5_General_Discussion.html&page=58 Quoted:
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Big-boy ? Inadvertently ? Meh, I have 30,000 + posts and you have a hundred-something ... I took the classes, and got Goatboy to sign my certification.
ETA - Link to 58 page thread ? Which tells me you couldn't possibly have the time to actually setup and run a machine, much less program one and design rifles/parts. Thanks for verifying that all you do is sit in front of a computer... while someone else does the real work over there at La"R"ue. This thread was on Page 58 yesterday when you dug it up: http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_1/5_General_Discussion.html&page=58 Oh my almost like someone who runs a real company that can afford to hire people to work for him. Yes such a lazy pogue indeed. |
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Fun stuff happening in here. Not really. You'll notice that Hall hasn't had much of substance to say about his recent deposition. Maybe he figured out that running his mouth on the internet really is a bad idea. But damn, I'd love to see video. Now that would be entertaining. |
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So is F&D still making rifles? Hand over fist ... so much so they took the high road and dropped their Shotshow booth, losing all the points they'd accumulated - but not before taking a departing shot at us in the etcetera crowd.
ShotShow 2014 - Jan 1, 2014 Due to our continued dedication to nothing but the completion of rifles that have been on order throughout 2013 and building inventory for 2014, F&D will not be attending ShotShow this year. Perhaps our competitors who are backlogged more than a year should take note! |
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Not really. You'll notice that Hall hasn't had much of substance to say about his recent deposition. Maybe he figured out that running his mouth on the internet really is a bad idea. But damn, I'd love to see video. Now that would be entertaining. Quoted:
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Fun stuff happening in here. Not really. You'll notice that Hall hasn't had much of substance to say about his recent deposition. Maybe he figured out that running his mouth on the internet really is a bad idea. But damn, I'd love to see video. Now that would be entertaining. It would seem otherwise but remember do not interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. |
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There's about 150 folks at LT ... and I bought my first CNC in 1983 ... and have about 120 of them new-fangled self-millin' gizmos here now. Just wished I could figure out what all them buttons mean.
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Big-boy ? Inadvertently ? Meh, I have 30,000 + posts and you have a hundred-something ... I took the classes, and got Goatboy to sign my certification. Which tells me you couldn't possibly have the time to actually setup and run a machine, much less program one and design rifles/parts. Thanks for verifying that all you do is sit in front of a computer... while someone else does the real work over there at La"R"ue. This thread was on Page 58 yesterday when you dug it up: http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_1/5_General_Discussion.html&page=58 There's about 150 folks at LT ... and I bought my first CNC in 1983 ... and have about 120 of them new-fangled self-millin' gizmos here now. Just wished I could figure out what all them buttons mean.
ETA - Link no worky - you need Goatboy's 5-Steps-To-Better-Internettin'. I bought my first one in 2005... Which I suppose is also how I also effectively purchased, installed, programmed, setup, and proved-out many millions of dollars worth of horizontals while working as a project engineer at the Caterpillar engine plant, thereby allowing them to employ many more people than you do. While you were busy make target plates... And the link works, always had. Answer the question as to why you "dug up" this otherwise stagnant thread. Mr Marky-Mark. |