Repeatedly.

Meh - NY's problem isn't pseudo conservatives.  it's pseudo americans who live in NYC or close by.   do you have any idea of how many russian immigrants or indian immigrants (who think they are americans) that i've  argued with over politics.  they are nominally americans and they are all hard cord lefties and vote as such.   and yes they are all anti-gun.  because not having the right to own a gun is the cultural norm for them.

i suspect the same thing is happening in VA, to a lesser degree.

NeverTrumpers gave me heartburn.

I didn't realize Trump was on the ballot. You must be a world class political analyst.

Tell you what I'd do. Same thing I said to my sheriff and Congress critter.

Instead of redflag laws following parkland?
I would turn the lemmings, the nanny statists and everyone else up on their heads taking their buzzwords and buzzphrases and using them against them.
They want to believe in "gun violence". Okay retard. Hold my beer. I'm about to focus on the real factors-motive incentive intent and enabling outliers.

1. Address the promise program. That shit ends effective immediately. It enabled that shit bag and tied the hands of law enforcement from charging him for the crimes that would otherwise, when found guilty, have disqualified him from purchasing firearms.
.Gov enabling outlier identified and destroyed.

Yes there was a coward that stood down, and inept leadership at that department. May the screams echo in their minds forever behind bars.

2. Having proven ineffective and inept?
Rescind any law which prohibits school faculty from carrying. No longer will we be solely reliant upon a reactionary measure of waiting for law enforcemrnt. No fault of their own as they cant be everywhere at every time, you would need a massive tax hike to put enough armed guards on each school premises in this state.
I call upon the people, the militia, to exercise their right to keep and bear arms, to serve as a supplement to law enforcemrnt.
Work with law enforcement to protect schools and houses of worship. In exchange of volunteered time, services, weapons armor, training, expertise, a reduction in school/property taxes, fast tracked NFA items including newly manufactured machine guns. A form of community service, that helps deplete the US vs THEM additude and false dichotomy.

There goes incentive for homicidal shit bags to target innocent people in an act of domestic terrorism. Which it is, since the left and weak republicants will cave to appease the feelz compelled lemmings. Lest they be called a bad word by a gender confused socialist/commie.

3. Reward those that put armed homicidal shit bags 6 feet deep. Praise them and their actions for proving to the media and lemming society firearms are not to blame, nor inherently for evil purposes. End user determines end use. Mentally ill and homicidal will have to go be mentally ill or homicidal eslewhere. Motive to be homicidal just terminated.

No longer shall we continue the false narrative of Gunz bad, gib gunz or you hate the childrenz.
I was a child.
Following 9/11 we had lock down drills because, terrorists would shoot up and bomb schools.
Upon that first lock down drill, I asked school administrators and the State troopers that were in attendance at the assembly to address our and faculties concerns...
You will be allowing faculty to carry then, right?
A gasp that sucked damn near all of the air out of the auditorium was the result.
I pointed out:
1. Teacher ran to lock a wood door with a glass window.
2. Shut the lights off.
3. Have whoever sat closest to the windows to shut the blinds.
4. Have us all lay face down ass up like a bicycle rack.
5. It took 15 minutes from time the alarm sounded until I could faintly hear sirens.
6. It took another 10 until I heard tires screeching and the fain bark of K9s.
7. A total of 45 minutes until I heard boots stomping, K9s barking and the shouting of "CLEAR!" On the north west 2nd story by the main entrance.
8. Friends of mine on the south east wing wouldn't hear the same for another hour.
9. Had there been a sniper, the woods behind the school would have provided ample cover and concealment.
10. 45 minute response time, woods, a wooden door with a glass window is unacceptable. Someone hell bent on death and destruction would have their way with us as fish in a fucking barrel.

For defying the narrative of expanding the nanny state with 2 state trooper SROs present as the only armed individuals on grounds, pointing out the flaws, I was seen as a threat or risk.

No. I was being realistic. I was subject to lots of bullshit... all because I had a far better idea than waiting 45 minutes for help to make contact, and pointing out one significant flaw being the woods behind the school. They had arborists go there and take limbs off trees up to 20ft and remove undergrowth to address that legitimate flaw of those who would be outdoors for Phys. Ed. or recess.

But because NY valuez, and thinking of the childrenz, things can only be done 1 way, and 1 way only. Dependency upon the state.
Don't you fucking dare defy that narrative. How dare you! How dare you insist people are capable of defending innocent life if they don't have a badge...
That's absurd! This isn't the 50s anymore! You must have problems.

Yeah. With being a lemming, sure. Your hearts and minds didn't work in Vietnam. It won't work in Iraq and Afghanistan and surely won't work in regards to potential terrorists targeting me, my classmates and teachers...

I believe there is a much higher statistical impact of the influence the Never Trump attitude had on your VA elections than you have been led to believe. In my opinion.

Dumb.

Trump motivates Democratic turnout and pushes swing voters away from Republicans.

Everything Trump touches turns to shit.

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lol no, stop watching CNN.

Trump has made people wake up to all the lies and propaganda the democrats and the controlled media has been pushing. He's made the left show their true selves. Corrupt, Criminals, liars, manipulators, insane and violent people who offer nothing but lip service to buy votes.

Trump has given new life to the Republican party, and potentially saved the Republic from further going down the destructive path of socialism.

To some, and to others he has made republicans look like bullies.

He IS polarizing. That means there are some who hate him and others who hang on every tweet. The battle is for the middle.

Then the two years republicans wasted doing nothing, followed by fucking gun control of all things, has resulted in apathy on the conservative side.

Trump's done a lot of good. But the facts are the facts. Trump's only saving Grace is how stupid the Dems are behaving.

The democrats always acted like bullies, even more so now. No ones being pushed to the democrats because of Trumps rhetoric. Those people were always the opposition. Republicans just behaved weak and didn't stand up for themselves or conservative principles. Now Trump is standing up, dropping the truth on people, and the left is enraged by it. The Republicans were basically being taken over by the Democrats as controlled opposition. Now Trump has turned things around. That's what never trumpers are pissed about. They are pissed freedom, liberty, smaller govt, constitutional conservatism is back on the rise.

Yeah nevertrumpers in congress sat on their hands, rather then push conservative policy. What a surprise.

How many of the NTs here actually sat home?

2?

NY recycles it's population.
Cityiots can't afford the cost of living in a 5th floor walk up, so they split an apartment with 2+
Discover they can buy in upstate, with a mortgage, for less than what rent is and take the train to the city?
Or
Corporate has a branch in/near Albany buffalo etc.?
Relocate upstate.

Those that actually were conservative watched weak elected representatives capitulate in "compromise" or outright support the demise themselves (pataki), and fled. It was either stay and be miserable. Or. Killdozer and every swinging dick scream fuck that guy he doesn't represent me he's a terrorist.

When I describe where I'm from, without saying the state? Folks think I'm from Tennessee the Carolinas or Georgia or Texas.
Nobody thinks NY is rich in forest, mountains, lakes, streams, creeks, fields, farms, every other daily driven vehicle a 3/4 ton truck. Some/most with a confederate flag sticker or flag on a pole in the bed of said truck.
That I raced stock cars on dirt ovals. Used to have trails my buddied and i would take dirtbikes and quads through, or snowmobiles during the winter, that extended into Vermont Massatwoshitts And CT...
Nobody thinks of big trophy bucks in abundance, bobcats, coyotes, picking wood chucks and rabbits off with 22s as a kid because the fuckers are destroying the garden or because rabbits taste good.

When they hear I'm from NY. Blank stare. Everyone is under the impression NY is the boroughs and the island. It's

So. The choice was simple. Stay miserable, bust my back at work to be taxed so some shit heel gets free shit and fund my demise (where does that reward money come from to turn in safeact violators?) Continue to argue with shit heels and cityiot transplants as more freedoms are eradicated, more forms of recreation banned(dude that owns Lebanon Valley leases Malta speedway, when the owners kick the bucket, that's it, no more Malta Speedway that becomes an extension of what is it Luther's forest estates?) That one was Build housing development by an established racetrack. For the navy reactor trainees, and global foundry employees.
They cunt about the noise of V8s barking late into Friday night. You can't be that fucking retarded to build housing near an established race track and cry foul... Unless you're a shit heel that thinks the world revolves around you and are enlightened, finding that sort of activity to be bad Muh noise pollutionz!

Fuckers tried to shut Lebanon Valley down too. Cityiots. Only cityiots would be that fucking retarded to relocate where a known, established, and successful race track is. And cunt about it.
Only is a cityiot that fucking retarded to call for the shutting down of said prominent race track that provides the local area $ in tax revenue and part time/seasonal gigs. Lebanon Valley gets shut down, you watch and see from say Stephentown to Nassau property taxes triple to make up for the loss in revenue. And the stupid fucks will cunt about that too! Foresight. They don't have it.

Stay where the derp runs deep.
Or relocate to where like minded individuals are?
Relocate where like minded individuals are it is.

I won. Cuomo lost a tax payer. Property and income tax. I used to cross over to Massatwoshitts to get gas it was usually 10-15 sometimes 20 cents cheaper per gallon. Same with groceries. He got me on sales tax for tools and trucks though.

Fucked them on capital gains tax when I sold my house too. 315k dollar assesment for an 1,100 sqft bungalow built in the 50s. Because. Lake side. Muh demand and desirability. Added value from new home construction. Nah. More like. Arbitrary pulled out of cityiot elected assessors ass to justify a 5,600 per year property tax bill alone. Fuck that. Nope.

65k and I'm out. Haha fuckers.
I didn't sell to a cityiot either. Sold to a fellow (as we were called) "townie"/"hick in the sticks".
Now there's one that folks go
I'd be lucky to see 65k if I had sold for even 150k-200k never mind trying to get 300-315k. How dare you be a threat to the real estate investors?! God forbid you sell and relocate within the state for work...
Others in "free states" shake their heads not knowing how things are done there...
And when you speak to what you did to prevent your assesment from rising? Without wasting your STAR credit on your first house?
It's either.
I'd hate to be your neighbor. Muh HOA. Go be poor somewhere else...

Nah. I'd rather let exterior appearances diminish and focus on the inside of the house, keep a couple roached out shit boxes on blocks as lawn ornaments to poke those fuckers in the eyes and keep my taxes from escalating.
Why do the social contract/boomer tax payer pride thing, if you are rewarded with higher property taxes? That's less money in your pocket to do fun things and invest with, you dink... I'm not altering my lifestyle, my comfort, my hobbies, to appease shit heels. Fuck outta here with that nonsense...

Muh property valuez! Fuck em. That's more money for the tax man to give to revive junkies with narcan because end the stigma of addiction.
That's more money for safe act violators being prosecuted.
That's more money for welfare schemes.
That's more state/County lackey benefits to stare at pot holes for 6 out of 8 hours monday-friday.
And that good ol boy network doesn't like the idea of their guaranteed pay or benefits package being compromised...
fuckers couldn't maintain the roads as it was, and I'm going to reward pot holes big enough to swallow a Buick with more money? Get the fuck outta here!

Be NY govt. Require annual vehicle safety and emissions inspections.
That'll be 21 dollars...or we cancel your registration.
Neglect through corruption, the roadways such proud tax payers pay for.
Reward said tax payers with, You need a new set of inner and outer tie rods, while I can't fail for ball joints, but because I need to perform an alignment, here's a price on uppers and lowers for both sides as they're bagged out. I can rotate the fronts to the rears for you, since they're cupped from said bagged out balk joints...if not. Here's a price on tires.

There's a 2k dollar repair bill to such proud taxpayer annually, if they have a plow on the front and use the truck for making money doing truck things...
Never mind chevy guys with brake lines rotting the fuck out and wheel bearings going like clock work...
Then there's weirdo Mopar or no car guys with rotted out Hemis... and the Toyota guys with frame failure...
Paying taxes to the state, to wreck your property on their roads, and cost you money to fix it. And you're proud of that? My my, the Stockholm syndrome is strong...

NY does recycle it's population. Upstate conservatives flee. Cityiots will take their place. Cityiots relocate upstate. Look at the voting patterns historically from say the 70s-2010s...
Add corrupt politicians that do their damn best to stifle employers and chase employers out of areas to perpetuate the welfare cycle, the high crimes, and so on so forth, credibility wholesale to leftists. On a silver platter.
Then when the cityiot transplant wants to retire? Sell the house for double, triple, quadruple what they paid for it and go live like a king in a state which they despise because conservative. Notice they don't retire to California... a shit hole with the same/similar degenerate values and taxes...

Shame there wasn't a way to prevent it from happening... I'd wall off from dutchess County Millbrook specifically, to the island. That's New Yawk.
Wall off Rochester and buffalo as Ghettotropolis 1. Schenectady Arbor Hill  Amsterdam and Troy as Ghettotropolis. Leave the rest as Old York.
Town of Poughkeepsie/Red Oaks Mills, Hyde Park, Bardville.
City of Poughkeepsie-Ghettotropolis.
Saratoga Yuppieville.
Plattsburgh new motto, where the men are men, sheep run scared.
Adirondacks and Catskills are to remain as natural resources protected from urbanization.
For the LOLs.

Where did Trump touch you/your keyboard?
Weak shit post is weak shit post.

NT’s destroy everything. Fudds.

What a dumb thread.

Democrats won the way they did because
1)typical blow back from a polarizing president (like how Republicans won all state wide offices in 2009 on the heels of an Obama win)
2)last minute gerrymandering by a left-biased court
3)ineptitude by Republicans to field worthy candidates is races where there was not any contested opponent
4)candidates, office holders, and political figures in the Republican party that say things that are either stupid, or out of touch with the current world, like E W Jackson saying that yoga invites demonic posession, all of this turns off an electorate that is sick and tired of constant preaching about family values type stuff
5)we as fun owners have done a terrible job about being inclusive and taking Democrats/progressives/moderates/ect shooting and introducing them to guns.  There is nothing worse than taking a friend who is gay shooting and having a bunch of dumbfucks ar the range  talk about how queers are ruining the country, or having a gun club member dropping the N word with impunity; great PR there Cleatus.

Holy shit, take Xanax you might be manic.

Who needs dems when you have Republicans like pataki or christie or romeny or.....................

I do have to give pataki credit for giving me the final push to GTFO.

It’s is funny, sad, but funny that you think negative effects on 2A in the past few years are limited solely to bumpstocks.

Meh, it was a 2 way street..both sides did it...And based on the results, voters decided who was right...I would love to see a 2A above all else candidate be president, the problem is that 2A voters are a  very small minority of voters..so either a better 2A candidate is needed that can bridge over to all voters or the 2A will continue to get at most minor representation...It is what it is....But nobody with any common sense is going to piss away an election just to make N_T's feel better about their failures...

If a politician can't get enough voters to vote for them, that politician is the root cause of their loss.

Blaming other people just reinforces how much of a pathetic loser they are.

EXHIBIT A:

This describes GD to a significant degree, and it does a good job of alienating otherwise like-minded minorities.

I’ve been here for a long time and I don’t like some of the more blatant bitching about minorities that goes on here, but I know that it’s part of the landscape. Would I recommend this place to a minority new AR owner? Fuck no, not again.

The one thing I learned from VA is to from now on turn out to vote in every off year state/local election...something I admit I've sat out far too many times. This is the Bloomberg plan for taking guns at the state level...turn out Dem voters in off year state races while everyone is kicking back.

The only thing keeping my state of PA (like all others) from becoming the next VA is a GOP controlled state house. Lose this to Dems and we become VA.

VA's only real recourse IMO to take back their state house and overturn these new laws. State and local races matter even more than national races...again something I didn't really take into account in the past till now.

He certainly touched GD.

You should call it "not the perfect compassionate conservative evangelical candidate" syndrome.

ntccec for short

This.  Specifically apathetic gun owners.

Every county on to vote on things based on population and then the way the population goes in the vote or to be how that county votes if we did this the democrats would control nothing

I love how everyone is telling Virginians exactly what we deserve, and how we lost.

You don't have a fucking clue. And frankly I'm not going to bother explaining it to someone whose so simpleminded to think the entire state thinks like the 3 counties that ruined our state. But thanks for saying Virginians deserve to lose our constitutional rights.

We appreciate your concern.