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Posted: 2/4/2021 3:49:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know what gun forums you were hanging out on before you joined here four days ago, but I've never heard anyone on arfcom say that. LeversRbetter.com? |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 3:49:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cute, but I’ve never seen a framing hammer that doesn’t have rip claws. You’re juxtaposition should’ve been finish claws vs rip claws. -10 points. Try again. You're right, I should have compared framing hammers and ball peen hammers, which are of course the official hammer of Arfcom. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 3:49:34 PM EDT
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'The fuck are you on about?
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Posted: 2/4/2021 3:49:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll bet you don't believe AR-15 rifles are gas operated bolt action rifles. . Sure I believe it and they are still easier to maintain, fewer parts, and more reliable than the average lever gun. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 3:50:27 PM EDT
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Lol.
They are not as good. But the vast majority of civilian self defense shootings are handled with a handful of rounds and several seconds of time. Obviously better to have and not need. Also obvious that the 2A has no "need" clause. So, recognizing that it is even worth discussing is giving too much credibility to that type of argument. I am plenty well armed with an M1 and 1911 or Smith 19. I choose other things. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 3:52:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because its folks spreading around misinformation and bullshit to new gun owners that get the wrong ideas with their new Marlin 30-30 Lever gun. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Whatever And who cares? Because its folks spreading around misinformation and bullshit to new gun owners that get the wrong ideas with their new Marlin 30-30 Lever gun. A pubic service announcement eh? to all the misinformed new gun owners here... Thank you for your service  |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:01:19 PM EDT
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The lever gun craze is a fairly recent thing. People who don't shoot much like to circle jerk on them. They are fun for a little bit. Plus the states where you can use straight walled cartridges for deer but not higher powered. Iowa for example.
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:05:11 PM EDT
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I would actually take a lever gun over my AR15 if I had to choose.
Have shot over 10k rounds in AR15 rifles. Not a boomer. Have shot nice BCM/DD/KAC rifles, with cans, red dots, scopes, etc. ARs have certain advantages, I agree |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:11:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would actually take a lever gun over my AR15 if I had to choose. Have shot over 10k rounds in AR15 rifles. Not a boomer. Have shot nice BCM/DD/KAC rifles, with cans, red dots, scopes, etc. ARs have certain advantages, I agree OP tried to warn us...  
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:13:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know what gun forums you were hanging out on before you joined here four days ago, but I've never heard anyone on arfcom say that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I hear this statement being spewed much more often on gun forums I don't know what gun forums you were hanging out on before you joined here four days ago, but I've never heard anyone on arfcom say that. He’s been in multiple threads intentionally stirring things up, now he’s graduated to straight trolling from the get go... |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:16:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only thing a lever rifle does well is “be cool”. Everything else about them sucks. Yea, whatever that once breathing thing was that just got quickly turned into a large dead heap will surely know the difference between whether it was a Marlin lever action or a Semi-auto that hit him. And whatever was running away from that dead heap will prefer being hit by a follow up shot from a 30-30 or 45/70 instead of a semi-auto. 
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:17:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The lever gun craze is a fairly recent thing. People who don't shoot much like to circle jerk on them. They are fun for a little bit. Plus the states where you can use straight walled cartridges for deer but not higher powered. Iowa for example. Meh. I can shoot anything from a squirrel to an Elk with my 44 Magnum. Is it as good as an AR? Nope. Is it fun as hell and a fairly capable firearm? Fuck yes. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:18:11 PM EDT
[#13]
Oh FSS
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:20:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP never saw Chuck Conners in action.  Or Josh Randall. ***** You know why I like lever guns? Because theyr'e fun. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:20:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He’s been in multiple threads intentionally stirring things up, now he’s graduated to straight trolling from the get go... So pointing out facts is trolling according to your judgement? |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:25:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LeversRbetter.com? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't know what gun forums you were hanging out on before you joined here four days ago, but I've never heard anyone on arfcom say that. LeversRbetter.com? Calguns?
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:27:06 PM EDT
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So, what is your regular screen name?
As for the rest, I know it's hard to wrap a brain cell around for the Walter Mitty types wasting their life in a deadend job in the city of Boringville, but not all guns are purchased with self defense in mind. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:29:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd rock the fuck out of those bottom two. Pretty much this. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:30:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:31:56 PM EDT
[#20]
Lever action was great until the bump stock ban.
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:32:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:33:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So pointing out facts is trolling according to your judgement? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He's been in multiple threads intentionally stirring things up, now he's graduated to straight trolling from the get go... So pointing out facts is trolling according to your judgement? |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:34:31 PM EDT
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Agree
But I don't think you can even get lever actions in Monaco. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:36:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Framing hammers are not just as good as ripping hammers I hear this statement being spewed much more often on construction forums this is really disingenuous and are just boot licking to hammer control. If framing hammers were so great and just as good as ripping hammers why aren't carpenters still only using them since over 80+ years. I see them useful for a nailing studs such as the Estwing 22oz but not for hanging pictures or nailing shingles. Ripping hammers are generally much more versatile/managable than framing hammers which have a textured hammer face that can damage the surface a nail is being driven into. That being said there is nothing wrong with framing hammers if you know there limitations and can accept what they are good at. End Message *I should start CC'ing a hammer... |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:36:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, what is your regular screen name? As for the rest, I know it's hard to wrap a brain cell around for the Walter Mitty types wasting their life in a deadend job in the city of Boringville, but not all guns are purchased with self defense in mind. You must live in a giant bubble if you don't see how dire the situation is right now with the active infringement overdrive with Biden regime EOs and upcoming legislation that will screw the country even more. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:36:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:36:58 PM EDT
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Marine One is a helicopter
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:38:26 PM EDT
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The rate of accurate aimed fire in long guns is driven by
recoil and having to get the gun back on the target. A well trained shooter can operate a bolt action while getting the gun back on the target. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:40:53 PM EDT
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If I was limited to one rifle, I'll take a lever action please.
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:40:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You haven't stated any facts or support four your opinion. Actually, I did by stating that lever actions are more complex machines with small fragile parts that will break much more frequently then most Semi-Auto rifles. And the fact that lever actions are a poor choice for SHTF combat and going against groups of violent thugs or adversaries. I also stated lever action rifles are good for hunting especially defending a camp from bears with a 45-70 guide lever rifle. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:42:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He’s been in multiple threads intentionally stirring things up, now he’s graduated to straight trolling from the get go... What do you expect from someone that claims to be from MCO? Something, something, Walter Mitty mind. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:43:46 PM EDT
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Lever guns are better than semi autos!
Now you've read that too message concluded BigMat |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:45:11 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually, I did by stating that lever actions are more complex machines with small fragile parts that will break much more frequently then most Semi-Auto rifles. And the fact that lever actions are a poor choice for SHTF combat and going against groups of violent thugs or adversaries. I also stated lever action rifles are good for hunting especially defending a camp from bears with a 45-70 guide lever rifle. Those are opinions |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:46:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWould've been better in shouty caps, but it's still a solid post. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:48:03 PM EDT
[#35]
I still think a suppressed .357/.38 lever action would be a fun gun.
Stop telling me what to like damnit!!! |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:49:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would've been better in shouty caps, but it's still a solid post. Quote HistoryQuoted: Would've been better in shouty caps, but it's still a solid post. YOU'RE PROBABLY CORRECT! |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:50:23 PM EDT
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No, they aren’t as good. But, I honestly wouldn’t feel undergunned if I had to use a Marlin 336 or Winnie Model 94. Sorry.
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:51:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those are opinions What government agency or Police department still use lever action rifles for patrol and defensive use today? Oh that's right 0 do because they are a terrible choice for defending against violent criminals when there are readily available semi auto AR's instead. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:52:17 PM EDT
[#39]
Whatever new guy.
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:53:04 PM EDT
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Is anyone else curious to know bloviating_jerk's opinion?
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:53:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What government agency or Police department still use lever action rifles for patrol and defensive use today? Oh that's right 0 do because they are a terrible choice for defending against violent criminals when there are readily available semi auto AR's instead. Understood but who has said lever actions are just as good as semi autos when justifying an anti gun proposal banning semi auto rifles? |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:55:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Understood but who has said lever actions are just as good as semi autos when justifying an anti gun proposal banning semi auto rifles? It was not from this forum. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:57:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was not from this forum. Then why the fuck did you bring it to this forum? |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:58:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was not from this forum. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Understood but who has said lever actions are just as good as semi autos when justifying an anti gun proposal banning semi auto rifles? It was not from this forum. Well whoever said it on another forum was wrong........in fact, almost to the douche bag level of wrong. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:58:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then why the fuck did you bring it to this forum? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It was not from this forum. Then why the fuck did you bring it to this forum? Other forums are just as good as this forum |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:59:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then why the fuck did you bring it to this forum? Because it spreads like wildfire from forum to forum especially when actual extreme gun control gets passed. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 5:00:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Other forums are just as good as this forum I feel underforumed, or is it outforumed? I'm new to this |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 5:01:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because it spreads like wildfire from forum to forum especially when actual extreme gun control gets passed. Well if it spreads here its because you brought it here, congratulations. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 5:05:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well if it spreads here its because you brought it here, congratulations. To disprove that false belief. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 5:06:55 PM EDT
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