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Posted: 3/9/2024 5:35:00 PM EDT
[#1]
This one simple trick gas stations hate.
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Posted: 3/9/2024 5:35:04 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Too late. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In before ... someone tries to excuse/rationalize/justify this? This place has changed 
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Posted: 3/9/2024 5:35:23 PM EDT
[#3]
In this thread, we learn who the honest people are, and who are the "casual" thieves.
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Posted: 3/9/2024 5:35:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And she knew to swipe the card twice how?  People get curious... https://hothardware.com/news/gas-station-thieves-steal-gas-through-hacking |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 5:38:31 PM EDT
[#5]
I used to manage rental car facilities, and we sure as shit had to reconcile fuel tank usage daily. We reconciled tank level (long wooden stick in old days, and electronically, later), gas pump dispense volume on the physical pumps, and semi tanker delivery volumes. Shame on her for being a thief, and she deserves whatever legal ramifications she receives. But the gas station was obviously not complying with underground tank regulations. I'd be kind of surprised if they aren't fined.
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Posted: 3/9/2024 5:39:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If that station is one that has pumps that play really loud commercials on the pump with no way to silence it; I would vote not guilty. 
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Posted: 3/9/2024 5:41:34 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Normally I hate thieves But in this instance there was a glitch in the matrix which was company’s fault. She merely took advantage of their fuck up Personally I would let her walk. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I reckon charges will be dropped. Not her fault they didn't fix the exploit sooner. Normally I hate thieves But in this instance there was a glitch in the matrix which was company’s fault. She merely took advantage of their fuck up Personally I would let her walk. She didn’t “take advantage” of shit. She STOLE the gas. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 5:43:55 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted:  lol... |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 5:44:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's never an excuse for shitty programming. FIFY |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 5:45:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She didn't "take advantage" of shit. She STOLE the gas. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I reckon charges will be dropped. Not her fault they didn't fix the exploit sooner. Normally I hate thieves But in this instance there was a glitch in the matrix which was company's fault. She merely took advantage of their fuck up Personally I would let her walk. She didn't "take advantage" of shit. She STOLE the gas. If a farmstand leaves out eggs in a cooler and an old coffee can to pay on the honor system, and you take some eggs and don't pay, you're not "taking advantage" of a glitch in the system, you're a thief, plain and simple. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 5:45:34 PM EDT
[#11]
Sounds like the software company should be responsible and pay for the gas IMO.
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Posted: 3/9/2024 5:48:21 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This one simple trick gas stations hate. Ha ha, I was thinking the same thing. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 5:48:55 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Normally I hate thieves But in this instance there was a glitch in the matrix which was company’s fault. She merely took advantage of their fuck up Personally I would let her walk. Using that logic, if you left your house/vehicle door unlocked, it's free pickings. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 5:49:25 PM EDT
[#14]
Tag
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Posted: 3/9/2024 6:03:33 PM EDT
[#15]
Seems to me like a tough conviction; they have to PROVE it was done deliberately, and not by accident.
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Posted: 3/9/2024 6:44:13 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a gas station here that has a Rewards program where you earn $ off gas, and your account is linked to your phone number. That's also how you claim your Rewards at the pump. You can often get anywhere from $0.20 to $2.00/gal off by simply entering the phone number of a friend or family member who you think might participate in the program. In minecraft. (Local area code) 867-5309 |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 6:50:03 PM EDT
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This is like idiots who find extra money in their bank due to an error, and decide it's theirs to spend or "I found a credit card on a restaurant table/bar, so it's mine to use".
Using your own shopper card is like making a deposit at a bank, then trying to rob it. 
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Posted: 3/9/2024 6:53:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems to me like a tough conviction; they have to PROVE it was done deliberately, and not by accident. lol. She bought the card from a guy (now deceased), and she was renting its use, and then she sold it. No part of this scheme is a glitch or random. It’s tweaker mayhem. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 6:58:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How did she think she wouldn’t get caught? I've seen dumber, greedier shit than this. Like a purchasing card auditor using an agency P-Card to order personal shit and thinking she wouldn't get caught. Tens of thousands of dollars worth of shit. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 6:58:06 PM EDT
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I love how people are like: "She found a way to make the computer say it was free. That makes it not criminal."
My dudes. How do you feel about the people that print their own barcode stickers, and then use self-checkout? How about the guy with the RFID reader cloning your hotel key and then looting your room? Debit card scammers? Identity theft? Crypto thieves? "If a computer tells me it's ok... I'm morally in the right." |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 7:00:39 PM EDT
[#21]
Clearly, we have a lot of members here that are ok with theft.
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Posted: 3/9/2024 7:03:30 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If that station is one that has pumps that play really loud commercials on the pump with no way to silence it; I would vote not guilty. You get gas at Speedway, too, huh? 
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Posted: 3/9/2024 7:05:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Clearly, we have a lot of members here that are ok with theft. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 7:17:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Using that logic, if you left your house/vehicle door unlocked, it's free pickings. Really bad analogy, try again. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 7:21:01 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol. She bought the card from a guy (now deceased), and she was renting its use, and then she sold it. No part of this scheme is a glitch or random. It's tweaker mayhem. 
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Posted: 3/9/2024 7:28:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems to me like a tough conviction; they have to PROVE it was done deliberately, and not by accident. Over 7000 gallons of gas? In the course of 500 separate fill-ups? Over the course of less than 200 calendar days? All at the same gas station? May the ghost of Helen Keller smack you upside the head. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 7:32:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In before ... someone tries to excuse/rationalize/justify this? When I was a tiny kid maybe 8, I learned the candy machine you put a dime or quarter in turn the knob one turn and out poured candy. Hmm I said to myself. Next day I went back and it would dispense candy with every turn and no money. I wasn't so smart. I went to the register and asked if I could get a small paper bag and the nice lady gave me the bag. I promptly went to said malfunctioning candy machine and filled the bag. Unbeknownst to me I had caught someones attention and was later caught in my second attempt. I think that was the first and only time I stole something. Can't remember if I got an ass whipping for that or not. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 7:39:46 PM EDT
[#28]
ALLTHEOCTANES
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Posted: 3/9/2024 7:45:22 PM EDT
[#29]
Shouldn't this be treated just like the shrinkage during Self-checkout?
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Posted: 3/9/2024 7:49:06 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol. She bought the card from a guy (now deceased), and she was renting its use, and then she sold it. No part of this scheme is a glitch or random. It’s tweaker mayhem. Didn't she also sell the card on the same day the bug was fixed? |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 8:10:29 PM EDT
[#31]
If it was "Big Oil", I wouldn't care much, they've been screwing us forever. Fuck them.
A small independent station, maybe a fill up once a month.  But no, I wouldn't do it. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 10:15:20 PM EDT
[#32]
Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.
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Posted: 3/9/2024 10:25:19 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Clearly, we have a lot of members here that are ok with theft. I swear that some are sociopaths. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 10:35:47 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How did she think she wouldn’t get caught? 
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Posted: 3/9/2024 10:47:28 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A+ for being resourceful. Dumb asses at the station should have figured it out when they Z’d out the register at the end of the day. Fuel sales v gallons pumped. Eh...maybe. Maintenance Mode bypasses the sales $. And their daily fuel reconciliation (environmental tracking for possible tank leaks, typically reported by a Veeder Root type system). might not have been off either, since the gallons would haven been "removed" electronically trough the POS, so the gallons dispensed matches the gallons no longer in the ground. Also, how many daily gallons are we talking about. 25 gallons...a dealer might assume other issues, so a deeper dive into the POS reports would be necessary. It would take time to piece this together and would likely require assistance from the Brand (Exxon, Sunoco, Shell, or whomever), who typically have Fraud managers and that's probably the Loss Prevention manager they refer to in the article. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 10:51:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Devil's advocate- Their system allowed it, why is it her problem? evil devils advocate The bank allowed the robber to walk in, why is it the robbers problem?
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Posted: 3/9/2024 10:52:31 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a gas station here that has a Rewards program where you earn $ off gas, and your account is linked to your phone number. That's also how you claim your Rewards at the pump. You can often get anywhere from $0.20 to $2.00/gal off by simply entering the phone number of a friend or family member who you think might participate in the program. In minecraft. A lot of rewards programs are like that. Most allow the addition of additional digits/pin to prevent this type of fraud. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 10:53:00 PM EDT
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Not the most brazen I've seen. Once had a station manager in FL find an extension cord running from the back of this station. He followed it across the street and up a telephone pole. At the top, was $30,000 camera, focused on the station's dispensers. The thief was skilled enough to use software and skimmer to steal debit card info, and steal a $30K camera to capture the PINs, but couldn't figure out how to power the camera, other than run an extension cord!?!?
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Posted: 3/9/2024 10:56:02 PM EDT
[#39]
Person shoplifts from a party store: "Islam is right about thieves! Take a hand!"
Person repeatedly commits fraud to the tune of $27k: "Station's fault."
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Posted: 3/9/2024 10:59:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was she a trucker? That breaks down to about 260 gallons (!) per week over a period of just over 6 months, if my math is right. Article says a friend used the card too, but only for about $700 worth. (I drive a beat-to-shit ecconobox that only uses about 15 gallons per week.) Id wager she would have several people filling up each time she went there. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 11:11:56 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If that station is one that has pumps that play really loud commercials on the pump with no way to silence it; I would vote not guilty. You just came up with a compelling reason for me to vote for not guilty. Fuck those places. Drives me nuts. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 11:26:47 PM EDT
[#42]
Always the women scamming and stealing, what a surprise.
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Posted: 3/9/2024 11:38:50 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its kinda like the ATM machine glitch where I request $50 and the machine spits out $500 . I would put my card back in and try it again until I reached my daily limit or the machine stopped glitching . The bank does counts on the ATM cash. If your card was in there when discrepancies were found you'd be on the hook for that money. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 11:42:03 PM EDT
[#44]
Not guilty.
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Posted: 3/9/2024 11:43:42 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I reckon charges will be dropped. Not her fault they didn't fix the exploit sooner. That is some strong moral and ethical character there. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 11:54:55 PM EDT
[#46]
It astonishing that anyone would excuse this behavior. Yet, you’ll find it right here in this thread. Some of you folks would rob someone blind without blinking an eye if there was some kind of unintended exploit.
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Posted: 3/9/2024 11:57:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems to me like a tough conviction; they have to PROVE it was done deliberately, and not by accident. Beyond a reasonable doubt is not the absurd threshold some legal eagles on arfcom seem to believe it is. |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 12:01:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: it was a rewards card. she was just getting her rewards. |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 12:21:49 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to manage rental car facilities, and we sure as shit had to reconcile fuel tank usage daily. We reconciled tank level (long wooden stick in old days, and electronically, later), gas pump dispense volume on the physical pumps, and semi tanker delivery volumes. Shame on her for being a thief, and she deserves whatever legal ramifications she receives. But the gas station was obviously not complying with underground tank regulations. I'd be kind of surprised if they aren't fined. Pvt. Pyle, why is your gas pump unlocked? Let's just see if there is anything missing! |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 12:29:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In before ... someone tries to excuse/rationalize/justify this?  |
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