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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:08:41 PM EDT
In 2013, The Wall Street Journal discovered a cache of files that revealed that the U.S. government lobotomized over 2000 veterans against their will after WW2. The veterans were lobotomized for reasons such as PTSD, depression, schizophrenia, and occasionally homosexuality.
https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/LobotomyFilesPart1.pdf 
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:12:41 PM EDT
[#1]
Top Men.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:13:33 PM EDT
[#2]
Lobotomy!
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:13:35 PM EDT
[#3]
“We’re from the government and we’re here to help”
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:17:03 PM EDT
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This should be done to Liberal Democrats. Oh wait, it’s already done.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:17:36 PM EDT
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I did a research paper in college on the subject. A woman in my town began to suffer from post-partum depression, and her husband (a prominent physician at the time with significant influence) didn't want her around anymore, which further led to deeper depression. He had her committed and she spiraled down into a constantly medicated state. She tried to escape, violently if needed (who could blame her). Ultimately her constant escape attempts and attacking her captors led to a lobotomy. She was a veg after that. It was very sad and changed how I looked at "the system" for sure.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:18:37 PM EDT
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To be fair though, I'd rather have a lobotomy than crave dick.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:19:09 PM EDT
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Trust the science.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:19:38 PM EDT
[#8]
And yet people believe that the government is always going to look out for their best interests
File this one with Tuskegee, LSD, Atomic radiation testing, the list can go on and on... |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:20:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I did a research paper in college on the subject. A woman in my town began to suffer from post-partum depression, and her husband (a prominent physician at the time with significant influence) didn't want her around anymore, which further led to deeper depression. He had her committed and she spiraled down into a constantly medicated state. She tried to escape, violently if needed (who could blame her). Ultimately her constant escape attempts and attacking her captors led to a lobotomy. She was a veg after that. It was very sad and changed how I looked at "the system" for sure. My girlfriend is a vegetable She lives in a hospital I'd do most anything To keep her alive |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:21:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:21:30 PM EDT
[#11]
I used to see the Lobotomy Ladies in a private psych facility, they played bridge all day.
Some had had 2. |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:21:58 PM EDT
[#12]
Moniz and Freeman should have been executed by fire.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:26:25 PM EDT
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The surgical methods used to treat patients in mental hospitals were draconian at best, horrific at worst.
Best described as “experimental”, but the patients were treated no better than lab animals. |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:29:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I did a research paper in college on the subject. A woman in my town began to suffer from post-partum depression, and her husband (a prominent physician at the time with significant influence) didn't want her around anymore, which further led to deeper depression. He had her committed and she spiraled down into a constantly medicated state. She tried to escape, violently if needed (who could blame her). Ultimately her constant escape attempts and attacking her captors led to a lobotomy. She was a veg after that. It was very sad and changed how I looked at "the system" for sure. I read a transcript years ago of a young woman having a lobotomy, the Doctor was very proud of how as he advanced into the procedure her cognitive abilities dropped to nothing, described it all in detail, it was horrible to read. disgusting to do this to somebody. Worse than death. 
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:29:37 PM EDT
[#15]
I would rather have a bottle in front of me than have a frontal Lobotomy.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:29:53 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair though, I'd rather have a lobotomy than crave dick. I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.  ETA: FUUUUUCK 16 seconds!!!! |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:31:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This should be done to Liberal Democrats. Oh wait, it’s already done. \ Nothing to lobotomize. |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:34:16 PM EDT
[#18]
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:36:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would rather have a bottle in front of me than have a frontal Lobotomy. Poppies!! |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:42:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trust the science. 
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:46:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Came here to post this. Some people still think that science has all the answers... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Trust the science. Leave it to the GD anti-intellectual crowd to misrepresent yet another topic to reinforce their proud ignorance. |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:48:14 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My girlfriend is a vegetable She lives in a hospital I'd do most anything To keep her alive Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I did a research paper in college on the subject. A woman in my town began to suffer from post-partum depression, and her husband (a prominent physician at the time with significant influence) didn't want her around anymore, which further led to deeper depression. He had her committed and she spiraled down into a constantly medicated state. She tried to escape, violently if needed (who could blame her). Ultimately her constant escape attempts and attacking her captors led to a lobotomy. She was a veg after that. It was very sad and changed how I looked at "the system" for sure. My girlfriend is a vegetable She lives in a hospital I'd do most anything To keep her alive It's called an EKG I'd do anything To keep her in style |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:54:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I did a research paper in college on the subject. A woman in my town began to suffer from post-partum depression, and her husband (a prominent physician at the time with significant influence) didn't want her around anymore, which further led to deeper depression. He had her committed and she spiraled down into a constantly medicated state. She tried to escape, violently if needed (who could blame her). Ultimately her constant escape attempts and attacking her captors led to a lobotomy. She was a veg after that. It was very sad and changed how I looked at "the system" for sure. John Money (the Patron Saint of Gender Jihad and Autogynephila) tried to have the author Janet Frame lobotomized, against her will. She was his student at the time. She was institutionalized and medically tortured for 8 years. |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:55:12 PM EDT
[#24]
Joe Kennedy had his mentally handicapped daughter lobotimized to keep her from embrassing the family.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 12:55:18 PM EDT
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One day they will be discussing the quackery of 2020-2023.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:00:10 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And yet people believe that the government is always going to look out for their best interests File this one with Tuskegee, LSD, Atomic radiation testing, the list can go on and on... And the spraying of radioactive chemicals in St. Louis and Texas. In St. Louis, the chemicals were sprayed from roof tops…. That just so happened to be predominantly poor black neighborhoods:  ARMY ADMITS testing on ST. Louis - Spraying Radioactive Chemicals - in the 50's and 60's |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:01:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair though, I'd rather have a lobotomy than crave dick. See, now I just think of the old tune Dr Demento used to play “I’d rather have a bottle in front of me, than have a frontal lobotomy “ So no need to even go to your example right off. |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:02:23 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My girlfriend is a vegetable She lives in a hospital I'd do most anything To keep her alive She’s got sockets full of flies And I’d do anything to keep her alive. My girlfriend has got her own TV. It’s called an EKG. And I’d do anything to keep her alive.  |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:04:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She's got a new TV It's called an EKG I'd do anything To keep her in style CRAP! Beat! |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:04:17 PM EDT
[#30]
… She was a really good friend
A really good friend to me, yeah She was a really good friend A really good friend to me, yeah … But they took her away Tossed her in the bin Now she's hanging out In East Berlin, ow-ooo … She had a very bad affair With some cat from Hiroshima She turned into a head of lettuce She eats Thorazine in her farina But they took her away Tossed her in the bin Now she's hanging out In East Berlin, ow-ooo … And every time I eat vegetables It makes me think of you And every time I eat vegetables I don't know what to do, to do ow-ooo |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:04:51 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted: She's got a new TV It's called an EKG I'd do anything To keep her in style Wow! Haven't seen (heard) that Jody call in decades! |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:05:22 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair though, I'd rather have a lobotomy than crave dick. This was about WW2 vets. Apparently you think about dick a lot. |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:07:41 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She's got a new TV It's called an EKG I'd do anything To keep her in style Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I did a research paper in college on the subject. A woman in my town began to suffer from post-partum depression, and her husband (a prominent physician at the time with significant influence) didn't want her around anymore, which further led to deeper depression. He had her committed and she spiraled down into a constantly medicated state. She tried to escape, violently if needed (who could blame her). Ultimately her constant escape attempts and attacking her captors led to a lobotomy. She was a veg after that. It was very sad and changed how I looked at "the system" for sure. My girlfriend is a vegetable She lives in a hospital I'd do most anything To keep her alive It's called an EKG I'd do anything To keep her in style She doesn’t have a mouth or nose Just a big rubber hose |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:07:45 PM EDT
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They did it to JFK's sister Rosemary. Kept it pretty quiet.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/rosemary-kennedy |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:09:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lobotomies were the absolute worst of medical quackery, there was nothing properly "scientific" about it. Leave it to the GD anti-intellectual crowd to misrepresent yet another topic to reinforce their proud ignorance. Lobotomies were essentially legalized, medically legitimized euthanasia. So wrong. |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:09:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This was about WW2 vets. Apparently you think about dick a lot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: To be fair though, I'd rather have a lobotomy than crave dick. This was about WW2 vets. Apparently you think about dick a lot. |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:11:12 PM EDT
[#37]
This procedure is just one of several abuses perpetrated in mental "hospitals".
It is one of the reasons the mentally ill are now out on the streets of America instead of receiving real, true care. |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:14:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I read a transcript years ago of a young woman having a lobotomy, the Doctor was very proud of how as he advanced into the procedure her cognitive abilities dropped to nothing, described it all in detail, it was horrible to read. disgusting to do this to somebody. Worse than death. People in react in horror to this, assuming they are sane, yet nobody is acting to defend children being genitally mutilated and force fed hormones. |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:16:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lobotomies were the absolute worst of medical quackery, there was nothing properly "scientific" about it. Leave it to the GD anti-intellectual crowd to misrepresent yet another topic to reinforce their proud ignorance. Go get your 5th booster Karen. |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:17:06 PM EDT
[#40]
Electro-shock therapy isn't very far behind lobotomies when it comes to draconian treatments of people.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:19:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy. ETA: FUUUUUCK 16 seconds!!!! You've got to be FAST on the draw to beat G.D. ARFCOM... 
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:26:30 PM EDT
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Quoted: In 2013, The Wall Street Journal discovered a cache of files that revealed that the U.S. government lobotomized over 2000 veterans against their will after WW2. The veterans were lobotomized for reasons such as PTSD, depression, schizophrenia, and occasionally homosexuality. https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/LobotomyFilesPart1.pdf https://i.postimg.cc/85sP93JQ/IMG-3884.jpg The same thing is happening now in the name of misgendering. You can't fix a mental problem with surgery! |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:46:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You've got to be FAST on the draw to beat G.D. ARFCOM... https://media.tenor.com/i_f0nXwF9AIAAAAM/quickdraw-shoot.gif Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy. ETA: FUUUUUCK 16 seconds!!!! You've got to be FAST on the draw to beat G.D. ARFCOM... https://media.tenor.com/i_f0nXwF9AIAAAAM/quickdraw-shoot.gif Lord knows I'm not! |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:52:34 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My girlfriend is a vegetable She lives in a hospital I'd do most anything To keep her alive I can't read it normally. Even when I read it to myself it's in cadence. 
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Posted: 10/2/2023 1:52:44 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: “We’re from the government and we’re here to help” first thing i thought of along with : 'Trust the Science'
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Posted: 10/2/2023 2:01:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lobotomies were the absolute worst of medical quackery, there was nothing properly "scientific" about it. Leave it to the GD anti-intellectual crowd to misrepresent yet another topic to reinforce their proud ignorance. Yet it actually happened for decades and was performed by actual doctors. Absolute nothing scientific about that… Need I make a list of other stupid shit that scientists and doctors have presented as “good for us” over the decades? Hell, how many doctors today think it’s perfectly acceptable to butcher a child’s sex organs? Ignorance is thinking someone is infallible just because they have a couple fancy letters after their name. |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 2:05:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lobotomies were the absolute worst of medical quackery, there was nothing properly "scientific" about it. Leave it to the GD anti-intellectual crowd to misrepresent yet another topic to reinforce their proud ignorance. 2/10 |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 2:07:24 PM EDT
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In general, I think they were stunningly effective for inhibiting emotional deviation. The practice was used throughout society, so it's not like veterans were the only targets of this procedure. Parents did this to children back then. It was also a time when institutionalization was widespread, so, as barbaric as the procedure may be, even known to be at the time, it may have been viewed as preferential to institutionalization.
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Posted: 10/2/2023 2:14:23 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lobotomies were the absolute worst of medical quackery, there was nothing properly "scientific" about it. Leave it to the GD anti-intellectual crowd to misrepresent yet another topic to reinforce their proud ignorance. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Trust the science. Leave it to the GD anti-intellectual crowd to misrepresent yet another topic to reinforce their proud ignorance. LMFAO wtf are you on about? there is nobody ITT saying lobotomies are a good or valid thing. ETA: or are you saying we should still "trust the science"? Do you know what scare quotes are, what they mean? Do you discern between literalisms and colloquialisms? Or just hate GD, lol |
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Posted: 10/2/2023 2:52:21 PM EDT
[#50]
I recall a radio interview with a gentleman who had one when he was 12 or 13. Intellectually, he was all there. Emotionally, empty, well maybe not empty, but flatlined.
Near the end of the interview after laying the whole thing out, his entire life, what was, what could have been, he stated, "I would be really angry about this ... if I could." |
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