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Posted: 10/31/2022 9:56:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was a cool gun shop/museum busted years ago in that area. Dont know the full story but he had quite the collection in the shop. page 11 owned. You can't own a page with an edit. Note lack of edit on my post? I OWN page 12. @FreefallRet |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 9:57:58 PM EDT
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In on this one before it disappears.
I wish every fed reading this post all the happiness they deserve. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:02:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In on this one before it disappears. I wish every fed reading this post all the happiness they deserve. Oh snap! |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:06:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't own a page with an edit. Note lack of edit on my post? I OWN page 12. @FreefallRet How does a edit negate the fact I made the first post of the page? |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:08:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I make the first post of the page why do I not own it? How does a edit negate the fact I made the first post of the page? It’s like calling bank-shot after the fact. You gotta call that shit when it’s leaving your hands. In the case of page ownage you gotta risk it for the brisket |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:14:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:15:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s like calling bank-shot after the fact. You gotta call that shit when it’s leaving your hands. In the case of page ownage you gotta risk it for the brisket Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If I make the first post of the page why do I not own it? How does a edit negate the fact I made the first post of the page? It’s like calling bank-shot after the fact. You gotta call that shit when it’s leaving your hands. In the case of page ownage you gotta risk it for the brisket  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:16:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I make the first post of the page why do I not own it? How does a edit negate the fact I made the first post of the page? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You can't own a page with an edit. Note lack of edit on my post? I OWN page 12. @FreefallRet How does a edit negate the fact I made the first post of the page? Kelbeast summed it up nicely right after your post. 
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:18:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I make the first post of the page why do I not own it? How does a edit negate the fact I made the first post of the page? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You can't own a page with an edit. Note lack of edit on my post? I OWN page 12. @FreefallRet How does a edit negate the fact I made the first post of the page? Reported. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:22:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reported. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You can't own a page with an edit. Note lack of edit on my post? I OWN page 12. @FreefallRet How does a edit negate the fact I made the first post of the page? Reported. DeathHates is a good dude. Me and him clashed a bit, and had issues, but he's a good dude. That reported shit, is still retarded. 
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:23:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it was a bunch of Quotes from the person in question. He was ranting about suing the OP and others... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anyone know what was posted, that most posts on page 7 got [deleted] for? IM me.  I think it was a bunch of Quotes from the person in question. He was ranting about suing the OP and others... They were screenshots (and quotes of same) of an IM with the guy's actual phone number on it. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:34:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I make the first post of the page why do I not own it? How does a edit negate the fact I made the first post of the page? If you want page ownage, and want to rub it in someones face, type your reply, then open the same thread in another tab and keep hitting refresh till it hits 50, then click submit, like new user did. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:36:34 PM EDT
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Gotta count dem' posts. Fiddy posts per page aight? This aught be post #13. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:36:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His handler told him to STFU. 
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:38:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kelbeast summed it up nicely right after your post. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:45:37 PM EDT
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BTW, it really is worth watching the video in the initial post on Page 1, which has very little to do with Pruess.
 US Navy Sailor Wrongfully Convicted For Illegally Selling Machine Guns The level of injustice in this case is just shocking. This poor kid has absolutely been railroaded, and is now sitting in jail. Please give it a watch when you get a chance and then, if you can, consider supporting his appeal. https://www.givesendgo.com/blackdogarsenal |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:50:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you want page ownage, and want to rub it in someones face, type your reply, then open the same thread in another tab and keep hitting refresh till it hits 50, then click submit, like new user did. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If I make the first post of the page why do I not own it? How does a edit negate the fact I made the first post of the page? If you want page ownage, and want to rub it in someones face, type your reply, then open the same thread in another tab and keep hitting refresh till it hits 50, then click submit, like new user did. Don't give away my secrets. 
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:51:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gotta count dem' posts. Fiddy posts per page aight? This aught be post #13. Quote HistoryQuoted: Gotta count dem' posts. Fiddy posts per page aight? This aught be post #13. At one point, there was a spreadsheet in a particular thread, that tracked page owns to that point.. I might know how to do it. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:58:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I make the first post of the page why do I not own it? How does a edit negate the fact I made the first post of the page? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You can't own a page with an edit. Note lack of edit on my post? I OWN page 12. @FreefallRet How does a edit negate the fact I made the first post of the page? send him death threats via PM then start a thread saying you are going to sue him for defamation over his claims that you do not own the page  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:04:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BTW, it really is worth watching the video in the initial post on Page 1, which has very little to do with Pruess.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOmQe8WvdmwThe level of injustice in this case is just shocking. This poor kid has absolutely been railroaded, and is now sitting in jail. Please give it a watch when you get a chance and then, if you can, consider supporting his appeal. https://www.givesendgo.com/blackdogarsenal The ATF informant in this thread was very responsible in this innocent man getting locked up it seems [redacted] |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:06:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:08:19 PM EDT
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This is why I love GD. You just never know what thread is going to produce quality entertainment. Hell, I might even renew my membership after this.
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:12:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The ATF informant in this thread was very responsible in this innocent man getting locked up it seems [redacted] Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: BTW, it really is worth watching the video in the initial post on Page 1, which has very little to do with Pruess. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOmQe8WvdmwThe level of injustice in this case is just shocking. This poor kid has absolutely been railroaded, and is now sitting in jail. Please give it a watch when you get a chance and then, if you can, consider supporting his appeal. https://www.givesendgo.com/blackdogarsenal The ATF informant in this thread was very responsible in this innocent man getting locked up it seems [redacted] Understood, and I'm not claiming Pruess didn't have a hand in putting the ATF on him. Instead, I was trying to convey that the vast majority of the video isn't related to Pruess and what he is railing against here. Most of the video is about the series of things the ATF and prosecutors did to this poor guy subsequently, and it really was shameful and unjust. They basically manufactured false evidence of crimes. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:19:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BTW, it really is worth watching the video in the initial post on Page 1, which has very little to do with Pruess. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOmQe8WvdmwThe level of injustice in this case is just shocking. This poor kid has absolutely been railroaded, and is now sitting in jail. Please give it a watch when you get a chance and then, if you can, consider supporting his appeal. https://www.givesendgo.com/blackdogarsenal He bought an improperly demilled kit. His legal team really sucks. I'm fairly sure there's knowingly posses case law. Staples v US |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:30:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He bought an improperly demilled kit. His legal team really sucks. I'm fairly sure there's knowingly posses case law. Staples v US But they nailed him for so much more... like the operable rocket launcher they claimed he possessed illegally and for which he was convicted. According to the Mr. GnG video, it was a de-milled RPG-7 marked "inert training device", without a trigger, with a steel bar welded in place to prevent a trigger from being installed, and with a hole drilled in the tube, which he purchased in that configuration. But the ATF patched the hole, removed the steel bar, and installed an RPG trigger. But even then, they did not feel confident they could fire a rocket in it safely, so they instead installed a training barrel sleeve so it could fire a 7.62x39 rifle round. And after doing all that, they essentially said to the jury, "see, he had a functional rocket launcher!" |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:36:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But they nailed him for so much more...like the operable rocket launcher they claimed he possessed illegally and for which he was convicted. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He bought an improperly demilled kit. His legal team really sucks. I'm fairly sure there's knowingly posses case law. Staples v US But they nailed him for so much more...like the operable rocket launcher they claimed he possessed illegally and for which he was convicted. I realize that, but it wouldn't have happened without the sale of the kit to an ATF agent. That's how they got their warrant |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:42:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I realize that, but it wouldn't have happened without the sale of the kit to an ATF agent. That's how they got their warrant No argument, but my main point is that a good part of what they charged him with and for which he was later convicted was absolute horseshit. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:44:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No argument, but my main point is that a good part of what they charged him with and for which he was later convicted was absolute horseshit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I realize that, but it wouldn't have happened without the sale of the kit to an ATF agent. That's how they got their warrant No argument, but my main point is that a good part of what they charged him with and for which he was later convicted was absolute horseshit. Yep, and his legal team sucked |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:49:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, and his legal team sucked That's probably a safe bet, and the video touched on that subject as well, claiming he was challenged to fund an adequate defense because the ATF seized all of his assets before the trial. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:58:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But they nailed him for so much more... like the operable rocket launcher they claimed he possessed illegally and for which he was convicted. According to the Mr. GnG video, it was a de-milled RPG-7 marked "inert training device", without a trigger, with a steel bar welded in place to prevent a trigger from being installed, and with a hole drilled in the tube, which he purchased in that configuration. But the ATF patched the hole, removed the steel bar, and installed an RPG trigger. But even then, they did not feel confident they could fire a rocket in it safely, so they instead installed a training barrel sleeve so it could fire a 7.62x39 rifle round. And after doing all that, they essentially said to the jury, "see, he had a functional rocket launcher!" |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 12:07:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rifle rounds are not rockets Apparently, the jury failed to make that connection. So yeah, it's not good enough to be law abiding. You also need to hope the ATF doesn't decide to manufacture evidence and use it to railroad you. So you might want to rethink that inert grenade gag paperweight on your desk...or the AR pistol locked in your safe, at least if you have an AR stock anywhere else in your house, including locked in another safe. May just smell like Constructive Possession to them, so they'll assemble them and hold up an illegally possessed SBR to the jury. And if they do, hope that you have a smarter jury pool. Or rely less on hope and help fund this kid's appeal to fight back on this BS. 
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Posted: 11/1/2022 12:09:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryFuck the ATF and anybody who helps them. |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 12:16:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apparently, the jury failed to make that connection. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rifle rounds are not rockets Apparently, the jury failed to make that connection. Sounds a bit like the Chinese treating airsoft as firearms, because it is conceivable that a person could take an airsoft gun apart and use some of the parts of the airsoft gun in the construction of a functional firearm, even though such a firearm could be constructed without the airsoft parts, if the individual is already making the rest of the parts. |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 12:26:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds a bit like the Chinese treating airsoft as firearms, because it is conceivable that a person could take an airsoft gun apart and use some of the parts of the airsoft gun in the construction of a functional firearm, even though such a firearm could be constructed without the airsoft parts, if the individual is already making the rest of the parts. Not far off. And it is time to fight back. I challenge folks here who can afford to do so to throw something in for this kid's appeal. Help let the AFT know that this type of BS will not go unchallenged. |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 12:29:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just assume all you guys are feds. for a minute there I got super excited about almost getting to my retirement and pension and then I felt super bad about the last 15 years of my life |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 12:34:21 AM EDT
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"Suddenly, too, Pruess showed up again, newly released from jail and almost immediately back to his old tricks. In September of 1997, Pruess bought and sold from Tetrick and T.J., bought and sold, and bought and sold some more: C-4, some AT-4 rocket warheads, an M2 machine gun, some grenades. Because he was built round and wore a mustache, the two of them called him “the Walrus...............Pruess was picked up at his home in Boone, NC. In his statement to the FBI he immediately gave up everybody he could think of: not just Sergeants Witham and Moerbe, and Captain Crawford, but a police officer in Detroit who sold him explosive ammunition; a fireworks and ammunition dealer from St. Louis who sold him grenade rounds; a Czech arms dealer with connections to the Russian mob who offered him a range of illegal armaments; an American arms dealer living in Thailand; another American who claimed to have ties to Colombian and Mexican drug dealers; various members of the Boone Police Department; and a marijuana grower in Atlanta with connections in Jamaica and Cuba. It took seven U-hauls to clear Pruess’ warehouse. https://jimlewis.substack.com/p/the-one-that-got-away-part-1 songbirds sing |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 2:54:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BTW, it really is worth watching the video in the initial post on Page 1, which has very little to do with Pruess. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOmQe8WvdmwThe level of injustice in this case is just shocking. This poor kid has absolutely been railroaded, and is now sitting in jail. Please give it a watch when you get a chance and then, if you can, consider supporting his appeal. https://www.givesendgo.com/blackdogarsenal I have to think he went at it with a public defender I mean I’m not a lawyer, and I didn’t stay at a holiday inn express last night, but it sure seemed like a number of things should have been tossed from that case. Like the RPG that was demilled to the ATF’s specs. 
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Posted: 11/1/2022 3:56:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you want page ownage, and want to rub it in someones face, type your reply, then open the same thread in another tab and keep hitting refresh till it hits 50, then click submit, like new user did. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If I make the first post of the page why do I not own it? How does a edit negate the fact I made the first post of the page? If you want page ownage, and want to rub it in someones face, type your reply, then open the same thread in another tab and keep hitting refresh till it hits 50, then click submit, like new user did.  |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 4:00:16 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: [Deleted] I really wish I knew what this said. Whatever the hell is going on here, it's no good Attached File |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 4:02:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The amount of illiterate people that are firearm enthusiasts or in the firearm industry is staggering. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So who is this person who started these lies? Need to give his name to my lawyer or have him request fir the lawsuit against Him and Ar15.com You try to destroy my life with lies and innuendo and you don't think I'm going to fight back you're just fucking crazy which most of you may be sitting in your underwear in the basement typing stupid shit against people you don't know anything about. I'm sure Alex Jones one Infowars but the same thing that he would never be held accountable this is not freedom of speech this is defamation of character totally different animal. The amount of illiterate people that are firearm enthusiasts or in the firearm industry is staggering. Seriously. He ought to be reincarnated for crimes against grammar and the wholesale destruction of the English language. |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 4:32:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait. There's guys on here that AREN'T feds? Isn't this ARFCOM, you know, ATF Rendezvous Forum .COM? 
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Posted: 11/1/2022 4:34:31 AM EDT
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Well, this is an interesting thread.
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Posted: 11/1/2022 7:23:38 AM EDT
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Finally tagged it. You know…for posterity.
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Posted: 11/1/2022 7:37:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't own a page with an edit. Note lack of edit on my post? I OWN page 12. @FreefallRet Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Was a cool gun shop/museum busted years ago in that area. Dont know the full story but he had quite the collection in the shop. page 11 owned. You can't own a page with an edit. Note lack of edit on my post? I OWN page 12. @FreefallRet Now THAT is how it’s done 
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Posted: 11/1/2022 7:49:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously. He ought to be reincarnated for crimes against grammar and the wholesale destruction of the English language. 
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Posted: 11/1/2022 7:56:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds a bit like the Chinese treating airsoft as firearms, because it is conceivable that a person could take an airsoft gun apart and use some of the parts of the airsoft gun in the construction of a functional firearm, even though such a firearm could be constructed without the airsoft parts, if the individual is already making the rest of the parts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Rifle rounds are not rockets Apparently, the jury failed to make that connection. Sounds a bit like the Chinese treating airsoft as firearms, because it is conceivable that a person could take an airsoft gun apart and use some of the parts of the airsoft gun in the construction of a functional firearm, even though such a firearm could be constructed without the airsoft parts, if the individual is already making the rest of the parts. Kinda like those Junker AK-74 airsoft guns |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 8:09:15 AM EDT
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I missed all the fun last night. I have a feeling he'll be back though, if he's that unhinged this thread will be like catnip. It's rather hilarious that he's threatening to sue while going on crazy diatribes, good luck finding a lawyer to represent you once they see that.
Maybe we should request he tell us who's representing him?
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Posted: 11/1/2022 8:14:42 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: songbirds sing |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 8:40:14 AM EDT
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IBTL
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Posted: 11/1/2022 8:55:00 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: BTW, it really is worth watching the video in the initial post on Page 1, which has very little to do with Pruess. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOmQe8WvdmwThe level of injustice in this case is just shocking. This poor kid has absolutely been railroaded, and is now sitting in jail. Please give it a watch when you get a chance and then, if you can, consider supporting his appeal. https://www.givesendgo.com/blackdogarsenal Donated. I’m glad to see they’re using Give Send Go instead of woke assholes Gofundme. |
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