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What a backwards thing to do. Fucking over the American economy because of politics just makes the Chinese ROFL. I'd rather the Chinese get to raff than give any money to a union. Fuck unions. |
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the union should start building high quality cars now that their master has been re-elected....
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I can't afford a new car, and probably never will now. They'll still get my money, just via the government.
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I only buy used cars. The Union can kiss my ass. Same here. Have an Accord now, Mazda 6 before that. Wanted a K-5 Blazer to goof around in but I'll probably be going 4-runner now. Fuck 'em one and all. |
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They overproduced a few years ago, and they are on their way to doing it again.
Unlike any other product, 100% of vehicles wil be sold eventually; but who's holding the money, in the mean time, while they are on the dealer lots, and at what point are they losing money rather than making it. When you bail people out who are doing wrong, they are never going to learn. If they always know they have a gov't funded parachute, there is no incentive for them to change a thing. Still overpaid UAW line workers, and overpaid salaried "white shirts" at their air-conditioned desks at GM, all bought and paid for by President Obama's borrowing of money, adding to the national debt. |
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Bingo.
Quoted: I've been screaming this shit to you rubes for years. No UAW No Hollywood No concerts No pro sports Vote with your wallet because we sure hell can't vote ideology anymore... |
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What a backwards thing to do. Fucking over the American economy because of politics just makes the Chinese ROFL. Good to hear a voice of reason from WI. What Local do you belong to? That's a false conundrum. It's the unions who have fucked over the American Economy; what's good for the unions is NOT good for America. The unions whose purpose is to wipeout competition, are part and parcel of a false, parasitic, price controlling, economy and refusing to buy their products is the right thing to do. |
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Lots of UAW guys , like most of the Tradesmen I worked with, voted Republican in every election. How do you think Reagan carried the state back then? But the Republicans got the bright idea to make us the enemy,calling us thugs and commies. What did you expect these guys to do then? Maybe you and your Party might gain some wisdom as you cry in the wilderness for the next four years or so, and think about trying to once again attract people with similar interests, instead of trying to make everything an "us versus them" situation.
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Buying anything UAW is suppoting the communist takeover of this cdountry. It is that simple.
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What a backwards thing to do. Fucking over the American economy because of politics just makes the Chinese ROFL. I'd rather the Chinese get to raff than give any money to a union. Fuck unions. Totally agree. I very much would rather support the innocuous Japan, than the currently killing my country unions. My truck was shipped over in a crate. If enough people started doing this, and explaining why, companies would move to right to work states and the unions would wither on the vine. This could apply to lots of things beyond unions as well. And would be our most effective tool. But, as with most things productive to those of us who love America, there are always forces who pretend to be on our side that undermine any effort that might fucking work. |
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Totally agree. My next two vehicles will be a Tundra and Highlander.
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I believe you got the cart before the horse.
The union bosses "Big Union" started overtly supporting Democrats over everything else...Often over the objections and/or best interests of their members (United Mine Workers Union bosses supporting Obama in 2008 is but one example). Note that I said "Union BOSSES, often over the objections and/or best interests of their members". So, the attack really should have been against union bosses. Unfortunately, that is impossible for an outsider to do, so the only weapon/recourse people outside the union have is to boycott the product and/or verbally attack the union and it's members. Until now, the majority of the people just cast aspersions towards the members. Now, based upon what I'm see here, they have seen that the only way to break the power of unions in this country is to boycott the products and put the union members out of jobs. It is really too bad because if it weren't for the politics of the "Union bosses", I would have little to nothing against unions. Here's a thought for you: If Democrats were truly for the working man, they would not be FOR amnesty for illegals and FOR large amounts of legal immigration...Both create excess labor in this country and cause your labor rates to fall. Quoted: Lots of UAW guys , like most of the Tradesmen I worked with, voted Republican in every election. How do you think Reagan carried the state back then? But the Republicans got the bright idea to make us the enemy,calling us thugs and commies. What did you expect these guys to do then? Maybe you and your Party might gain some wisdom as you cry in the wilderness for the next four years or so, and think about trying to once again attract people with similar interests, instead of trying to make everything an "us versus them" situation. |
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We dumped our Jeep
Bought a Nissan FUCK UNIONS and UNION Members and to all the union members here....thanks for Obama...your contributions helped buy Pro Obama ads |
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The union types were a huge part of what happened last night. Seriously, other than heavy duty pickups, there is nothing that cannot be bought elsewhere. We need to hit those pampered, overpaid bastards where it hurts! I love the outright stupidity of this thread. Hey A**hat, 11.9% of Americans are Unionized. Thats right 11.9%. And all the Union guys I know voted Romney.So then just who did vote in the messiah? Grow up, this is way beyond unions. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.nr0.htm |
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Greate boycott lists from the unions themselves
2012 UAW Union-Built Vehicle Buying List More than just cars Auto Parts/Tires UAW made parts/equipment http://www.uaw.org/products/93 IBEW made automotive parts http://www.ibew.org/IBEW/products/index2.asp?ProductHdr=Automotive UAW made automotive batteries http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/automobile-batteries.html USW made tires http://www.usw.org/media_center/news_articles?id=0409 Banking/Credit Cards/Checks Amalgamated Bank https://www.amalgamatedbank.com Union Privilege Credit Cards (personalized by union) http://www.unionplus.org/money-credit/credit-card Bookstores/Videos/Music UAW made Yamaha musical instruments http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/music.html Building Materials UAW made building/home repair products http://www.uaw.org/products/86 UAW made plumbing products http://www.uaw.org/products/80 Clothing/Accessories UFCW made brands http://www.ufcw.org/about_ufcw/ufcw_made_products/index.cfm?psc_ID=46 Cars/Trucks/Vans/RVs UAW/CAW/IEU Buying Guide http://www.uaw.org/cars Electronics/Electrical IBEW makes all kinds of electrical equipment http://www.ibew.org/IBEW/products/index.asp Entertainment/Sports Live union musicians for events http://www.gopromusic.com/ Music lessons from a union musician http://www.goprolessons.com/ Food/Beverage/Grocery UFCW made and packaged food/beverage/medicine/personal products/baby care and other items http://www.ufcw.org/about_ufcw/ufcw_made_products/ UAW made consumer food products http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/food.html Teamster food workers http://www.teamster.org/content/food-processing-division UAW made beer/rum/groceries http://www.uaw.org/products/90 Fairly complete list of union made beers http://www.unionplus.org/union-made/beers Home/Appliances/Heat/AC UFCW made household cleaners/products http://www.ufcw.org/about_ufcw/ufcw_made_products/index.cfm?psc_ID=40 IBEW made Alarms & Detection Devices http://www.ibew.org/IBEW/products/index2.asp?ProductHdr=Alarms+%26+Detection+Devices IBEW made appliances/vacuums/humidfiers http://www.ibew.org/IBEW/products/index2.asp?ProductHdr=Appliances+%26+Household+Products UAW made appliances http://www.uaw.org/products/94 UAW made home products (hvac systems, security systems, windows & doors, laders, and much more) http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/home-repair.html UAW made housewares (lamps, drapes, embroidery, cookware products) http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/housewares.html UAW made lawn care products http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/lawn-care.html UAW made tools http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/tools.html UAW heat/AC equip. http://www.uaw.org/products/89 HVAC service http://www.hvacexpertise.com/residential/AM/Template.cfm?Search=2§ion=login&Template=Directory/ProductSearch.cfm&TERMS=StateCountry UAW factory built homes http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/factory-built-homes.html Magazines/Newspapers/Printers UAW made magazines and books http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/publications.html Find a GCIU printer http://www.gciu.org/ext/shop_search.asp Medical Products UAW made medical products (eye glasses, contacts, mail order drugs) http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/medical-items.html Office Products UAW made office products http://www.uaw1112.com/newsevents/union-made-products/office-products.html Pet UFCW made pet food and other items http://www.ufcw.org/about_ufcw/ufcw_made_products/index.cfm?psc_ID=43 Shoes/Boots UFCW made brands of shoes and boots http://www.ufcw.org/about_ufcw/ufcw_made_products/index.cfm?psc_ID=48 Sporting Goods UAW made sporting goods http://www.uaw.org/products/79 Tractors UAW made tractors http://www.uaw.org/products/95 Toys UAW made games, puzzles, hobby kits, etc. http://www.uaw.org/products/95 Travel/Vacation Airlines with AFA union flight attendants http://www.afanet.org/default.asp?id=517 Airlines with ALPA union pilots http://www.alpa.org/Home/WhoWeAre/PilotGroups/tabid/2239/Default.aspx Airlines with Teamster workers http://teamsterair.org/who-we-represent Airports http://www.airportgroup.info/locations.html Union hotel guide from UNITEHERE! http://www.hotelworkersrising.org/HotelGuide/ Norwegian Cruises (discounts for union members) http://www.unionplus.org/norwegian-cruise-lines-discounts Wireless Phone Service AT&T wireless (discounts for union members) http://www.unionplus.org/cell-phone-wireless/att-wireless Someone wanna print out the list of all those companies? I'm gettin finger cramps! |
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Audi A6
I will never by another Amierican car for many reasons. |
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That won't hurt them; 0bama will just bail them out if they fail.
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The union types were a huge part of what happened last night. Seriously, other than heavy duty pickups, there is nothing that cannot be bought elsewhere. We need to hit those pampered, overpaid bastards where it hurts! I never bought their shitbox cars in the first place. The problem is that they'll just bankrupt and re-fund via a government bailout, again, if they implode again. |
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Fun Car : Porsche 911 Carrera S
Daily Driver : Range Rover Wife's Daily Driver: Range Rover Motorcycle : BMW Fuck the Unions and FBHO! |
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My entire family outlawed UAW cars from our garages years ago, but were starting to consider a big SUV (Tahoe, Escalade). Parents started the test drive process. Now, no more. Time to look at the Toyota Sequoia/Lexus LX. I love my 4Runner and will NEVER consider a UAW vehicle. Love our Sequoia |
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Owned 8 vehicles in my young life. And purchased 4 vehicles with my wife (for her). My oldsmobile and Jeep were pieces of crap that had constant problems. The rest have been Infiniti, Honda and Toyota with the exception of a horrible VW purchase. The foreign cars/trucks have by far been the best investment. I drove and toyed with the idea of getting a Chevy right before the bailout. That cleared my wondering eye up real quick! I'll stick to my Toyotas and the unions can stick to sucking the Obama teat and building crap that breaks down all the time.
Funny thing is. My brother in law blasts me all the time for my vehicle purchases. In the last (I kid you not) 3 years the guy has bought a new Chevy truck (crapped out all the time), traded in for a new Ford (transmission problems and leaked oil), a Dodge Ram (has been in the shop more times than I can count) and lastly a Jeep Cherokee (looks great by the way but has been in the shop at least once for 6 of the 13 months he has owned it.) |
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I came from a GM family. My mom and uncle retired after 30 years. Neither one of them could say anything good about the union.
We went and bought a Honda CR-V for the wife. I told my mother I couldn't buy a car from Government Motors. She understood. |
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Toyota Tundra ... non union
Toyota Avalon ... non union Kia Optima ... non union all made here in America by non union workers see a trend going on here at my house? been that way for years and will continue to be for the rest of my life.
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Look here for the union label.......
http://www.uaw.org/content/uaw-made-page Link left cold. |
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I believe you got the cart before the horse. The union bosses "Big Union" started overtly supporting Democrats over everything else...Often over the objections and/or best interests of their members (United Mine Workers Union bosses supporting Obama in 2008 is but one example). Note that I said "Union BOSSES, often over the objections and/or best interests of their members". So, the attack really should have been against union bosses. Unfortunately, that is impossible for an outsider to do, so the only weapon/recourse people outside the union have is to boycott the product and/or verbally attack the union and it's members. Until now, the majority of the people just cast aspersions towards the members. Now, based upon what I'm see here, they have seen that the only way to break the power of unions in this country is to boycott the products and put the union members out of jobs. It is really too bad because if it weren't for the politics of the "Union bosses", I would have little to nothing against unions. Here's a thought for you: If Democrats were truly for the working man, they would not be FOR amnesty for illegals and FOR large amounts of legal immigration...Both create excess labor in this country and cause your labor rates to fall. Quoted:
Lots of UAW guys , like most of the Tradesmen I worked with, voted Republican in every election. How do you think Reagan carried the state back then? But the Republicans got the bright idea to make us the enemy,calling us thugs and commies. What did you expect these guys to do then? Maybe you and your Party might gain some wisdom as you cry in the wilderness for the next four years or so, and think about trying to once again attract people with similar interests, instead of trying to make everything an "us versus them" situation. Exactly. Union bosses are the field generals of the Free Shit Army. Collective Bargaining is just a sanitized word for extortion. - wants overtime pay to starts after 8 hrs of work in a day, even if you only work 1 day a week.....or we strike. - wants minimum of 3 break periods during the day.....or we strike. - requires 4 workers to be assigned to a job even if it only requires one.....or we strike. - wants ALL weekends off ...or we strike - wants double time and a half for every freakin' holiday including groundhog day....or we strike. - wants full medical, dental, fully funded 401k , car/truck/bassboat ins ....or we strike. - etc etc etc Your "leaders" have done you no good. Your union dues have been used against you. They live like kings while you and your family starve to death on strike pay. And you wonder why the public won't buy your products when the company has to raise the price so damn high to cover the cost of your free shit. You wonder why companies say "fuck this noise" and move out-of -country to lower costs to stay competitive because your union bosses won't budge an inch on giving up your free shit. You wonder why the customers never come back to the dealership garage for service after the warranty runs out,...because they don't want to be gouged paying for work AND your free shit. When your Union Bosses say they are gonna "Stick it to the Man".....just remember, that Man is you. |
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I buy what I need and what I like. If it fit's my expectations and budget, I could care less who built it.
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I bought a new Jeep recently. I do like it, but have to say fuck the UAW. Their support no doubt threw Ohio into Obamas hands. It will be a long time before I buy another vehicle but will consider long and hard before I buy another UAW produced vehicle.
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I've been screaming this shit to you rubes for years. No UAW No Hollywood No concerts No pro sports Vote with your wallet because we sure hell can't vote ideology anymore... Thank YOU! +1 gazillion |
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I did. I said FUCK YOU and got a 2013 Nissan Altima instead of a Chevy Cruze or Ford Fusion. I've been Chevy my entire life. My first truck was a '74 GMC. My last was a 2006 Duramax. No more GM for me. I just bought a new V6 crew cab Nissan Frontier. |
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What a backwards thing to do. Fucking over the American economy because of politics just makes the Chinese ROFL. Good to hear a voice of reason from WI. What Local do you belong to? I belong to Local 72 UAW, 41 years active and retired in Wisconsin. |
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Doesn't a certain firearms manufacturer have employees under a UAW contract?
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I belong to Local 72 UAW, 41 years active and retired in Wisconsin How old were you when you retired? 52? |
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I belong to Local 72 UAW, 41 years active and retired in Wisconsin How old were you when you retired? 52? 33 years active, 8 retired now. I was 55 when I retired. |
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I will never buy a Chevrolet or Dodge again for the rest of my life. I previously have owned both.
Ford is still a possibility but I'm very happy with my Toyota right now. |
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I make a living in the automotive market. We sell automation equipment. When plants retool it's pretty lucrative. MRO business keeps the lights on. GM, Ford, and Chrysler buy almost all local engneering and products. The foriegn plants buy MUCH less from outfits like ours....they get thier "stuff" from thier homeland(s). I buy Big 3 vehicles because it's where I make my money.
All of that said, the UAW has fucked this industry up big time. I have no sympathy for them negotiating themselves out of a job.But keep in mind, they ALWAYS voted for the Democrats. It wasn't the bailouts. |
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The union types were a huge part of what happened last night. Seriously, other than heavy duty pickups, there is nothing that cannot be bought elsewhere. We need to hit those pampered, overpaid bastards where it hurts! It will never happen, union workers are a protected class in this country. Protected class....funny you mention that. Today we had a "discrimination/sexual harassment class at work. I have worked here for quite a while and this was first time today I seen mention of "protected class". The first scenario was a under skilled white man promoted over a more qualified black man.... |
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my VW diesel is the best car ive ever owned for value and quality balance.
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Have not owned a domestic auto in 20 years.
Wouldn't THAT be a marketing strategy - "Look for the NON-union label". Liberal fuktards don't buy union cars anyhow. Imagine if their entire market dried up. Not to say you couldn't buy US made. KIA, Toyota, Nissan all build better non-union cars. Anybody want to chip in for a full page USA Today ad? |
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Why would I purchase the pieces of shit that almost bankrupt them in the first place?
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Just bought my first Toyota, no more UAW in my driveway. I hope GM and Dodge both close up shop.
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Been buying Honda my entire life. Don't see any reason to change now
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I'm in michigan.. surrounded by it.... these folks live in a bubble. They live in this huge fanatasy world where they believe their mostly mundane unskilled labor is worth $50+K a year, plus another $50 in benefits...
We had a prop on the ballot to give the unions even more power, and thank god, it was defeated. The only real way to make these folks realize what they've supported, is to make their plants close. Come to flint michigan.. and you'll see what a former UAW town looks like. One plant left.. GM trucks. Close their plants, even then.. they'll blame everyone but themselves. Just like the dem mantra... its always someone else's fault. The days of american pride in american made vehicles is over.... if its a union shop, I dont spend money there. Period. I might as well be buying a Lada during the cold war. We bought Kia's. Made in tennessee by americans... non union. |
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