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You ever said "FUCK" right before you started bleeding? Pretty sure that guy did too!
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Fair enough. How many rounds should they be allowed to shoot then? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: No wonder they need 18 shot 9MM pistols...…. In the army we used to say, "Overkill works." Maybe I am an idiot for questioning why so much lead is flying in so many of these LE shootings, but I grew up the son of a LE Officer who carried a snub nosed 38 for most of his time as an undercover detective. It was only in the final years of his career did he start to carry a S&W automatic with like seven or eight round mag. They were trained to fire two shots center mass and then one to the head if the two did not put the guy down. Back then I just do not recall hearing about officers dumping their entire six rounds at a criminal at one time. Back in the day in my fathers dept they were rewarded with a day off for shooting really well. Now I understand you shoot until you stop the threat and I understand the stopping power and lethality of handgun rounds, but in some many of these officer involved shootings today they are just letting way to much lead fly. How many rounds did they fire at this guy when there were two people in the line of fire. |
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The guy had the gun pointed upwards, then turned the gun towards the cops, still a very slight wait until shots fired.
He played stupid games and lost |
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As many rounds as it takes, and no more...into the target and nowhere else. Did that happen here? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: No wonder they need 18 shot 9MM pistols...…. In the army we used to say, "Overkill works." Maybe I am an idiot for questioning why so much lead is flying in so many of these LE shootings, but I grew up the son of a LE Officer who carried a snub nosed 38 for most of his time as an undercover detective. It was only in the final years of his career did he start to carry a S&W automatic with like seven or eight round mag. They were trained to fire two shots center mass and then one to the head if the two did not put the guy down. Back then I just do not recall hearing about officers dumping their entire six rounds at a criminal at one time. Back in the day in my fathers dept they were rewarded with a day off for shooting really well. Now I understand you shoot until you stop the threat and I understand the stopping power and lethality of handgun rounds, but in some many of these officer involved shootings today they are just letting way to much lead fly. How many rounds did they fire at this guy when there were two people in the line of fire. |
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Even though this guy seemed to be an idiot or want this to happen, this scenario be played out thousands of times with Red Flag Laws, but in more dramatic fashion.
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his ex killed him. She knew he was drunk/high/crazy and would confront the law with a pistol.
and called a "domestic disturbance" she has an alibi. now she has what she wants and nobody suspects her. my ex tried to do this to me. Filed false PO, took my child away. |
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The guy had the gun pointed upwards, then turned the gun towards the cops, still a very slight wait until shots fired. He played stupid games and lost View Quote |
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his ex killed him. She knew he was drunk/high/crazy and would confront the law with a pistol. and called a "domestic disturbance" she has an alibi. now she has what she wants and nobody suspects her. my ex tried to do this to me. Filed false PO, took my child away. View Quote |
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Happened in Louisville. Cops called out for a domestic call. He wont do that again. https://www.wave3.com/2019/08/14/video-new-details-released-following-deadly-officer-involved-shooting-parkland/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-FZ9Zqxu94 View Quote The fucker answered the door and pointed a deadly weapon (firearm) at first responders. He got exactly what he deserved. |
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his ex killed him. She knew he was drunk/high/crazy and would confront the law with a pistol. and called a "domestic disturbance" she has an alibi. now she has what she wants and nobody suspects her. my ex tried to do this to me. Filed false PO, took my child away. View Quote Should of pistol whipped your ex-wife and son too! |
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Looked like suicide by cop and apparently was.
Ex’s response says it all. It was a relief. |
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Wow, crazy incident.
Not sure why the cop standing almost behind the lead cop decided to fire but that's a crazy situation. |
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If you know your partner, and his training, and your training, it isn't as dramatic as it seems to some. You don't even have to be a Cop to know what to, and not to do. Jay View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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View Quote More to this.... Feel sorry for the cop honestly,l. Good shoot given what happened. |
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Lol...
Lmpd cops routinely shoot at a range that I belong to. Even that close range I'm surprised they hit him that many times. They generally have a hard time hitting practice targets without any stress. There's a few of them that I have shot with routinely in competition, USPSA and steel challenge that are pretty good shots, but as a whole the rest not so much. |
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Quoted: Clearly justified shoot, but it makes me question if they forgot why they were called to the house as they let so much lead fly into the house when there were two people down the hall. Maybe I am an idiot for questioning why so much lead is flying in so many of these LE shootings, but I grew up the son of a LE Officer who carried a snub nosed 38 for most of his time as an undercover detective. It was only in the final years of his career did he start to carry a S&W automatic with like seven or eight round mag. They were trained to fire two shots center mass and then one to the head if the two did not put the guy down. Back then I just do not recall hearing about officers dumping their entire six rounds at a criminal at one time. Back in the day in my fathers dept they were rewarded with a day off for shooting really well. Now I understand you shoot until you stop the threat and I understand the stopping power and lethality of handgun rounds, but in some many of these officer involved shootings today they are just letting way to much lead fly. How many rounds did they fire at this guy when there were two people in the line of fire. View Quote Re the importance of training correctly. In the day of the revolver, dead cops were found with an empty revolver in hand and with six empty cases in their shirt pocket. At the range when training, instead of dumping the fired rounds on the ground and getting on with the reload, they ejected the cases into their hand and put them in a pocket just so they wouldn't have to police up brass. Of course in that day and age most did not use speed loaders. They carried reloads in dump pouches or in loops on the belt. As for "way too much lead" flying. I'm OK with letting the man (or woman) on the spot decide how much out-going lead is appropriate. As for the woman being endangered, yeah, that's unfortunate but you have to calculate who is in the most danger. Also you can bet this wasn't the first DV incident she experienced with this guy. She should have left long ago. I've been on a few DV calls. It is quite common that the woman is the instigator, manipulating the man into getting arrested. So often women of a certain economic class call the cops not to save themselves but expect the cops to make the man do what she wants or to "do right". Cops have some really sucky aspects to their job. People that expect cops to do behavior modification on their children or spouse/SO frequently get more than they bargained for. |
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his ex killed him. She knew he was drunk/high/crazy and would confront the law with a pistol. and called a "domestic disturbance" she has an alibi. now she has what she wants and nobody suspects her. my ex tried to do this to me. Filed false PO, took my child away. View Quote |
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Clearly justified shoot, but it makes me question if they forgot why they were called to the house as they let so much lead fly into the house when there were two people down the hall. Maybe I am an idiot for questioning why so much lead is flying in so many of these LE shootings, but I grew up the son of a LE Officer who carried a snub nosed 38 for most of his time as an undercover detective. It was only in the final years of his career did he start to carry a S&W automatic with like seven or eight round mag. They were trained to fire two shots center mass and then one to the head if the two did not put the guy down. Back then I just do not recall hearing about officers dumping their entire six rounds at a criminal at one time. Back in the day in my fathers dept they were rewarded with a day off for shooting really well. Now I understand you shoot until you stop the threat and I understand the stopping power and lethality of handgun rounds, but in some many of these officer involved shootings today they are just letting way to much lead fly. How many rounds did they fire at this guy when there were two people in the line of fire. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: No wonder they need 18 shot 9MM pistols...…. In the army we used to say, "Overkill works." Maybe I am an idiot for questioning why so much lead is flying in so many of these LE shootings, but I grew up the son of a LE Officer who carried a snub nosed 38 for most of his time as an undercover detective. It was only in the final years of his career did he start to carry a S&W automatic with like seven or eight round mag. They were trained to fire two shots center mass and then one to the head if the two did not put the guy down. Back then I just do not recall hearing about officers dumping their entire six rounds at a criminal at one time. Back in the day in my fathers dept they were rewarded with a day off for shooting really well. Now I understand you shoot until you stop the threat and I understand the stopping power and lethality of handgun rounds, but in some many of these officer involved shootings today they are just letting way to much lead fly. How many rounds did they fire at this guy when there were two people in the line of fire. I practice 5 to 7 round strings. |
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Thank God the cops did not hit the people behind him. The woman and the cops were very lucky on that one. She seemed unfazed by the shooting. View Quote |
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The entire thing was super sloppy. Dude deserved to get shot, but geez it looked like two cops playing a 90s era arcade game. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Thank God the cops did not hit the people behind him. The woman and the cops were very lucky on that one. She seemed unfazed by the shooting. Been in police gunfights? Or any? Adrenalin is both a savior and a curse. It ain't scripted TV. |
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Play stupid games...win stupid prizes.
Guy won't do that again anytime soon. First cop was 1000% justified...second cop seemed late to the party after the threat was stopped and already down. Not to mention shooting right past his partner. |
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The entire thing was super sloppy. Dude deserved to get shot, but geez it looked like two cops playing a 90s era arcade game. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Thank God the cops did not hit the people behind him. The woman and the cops were very lucky on that one. She seemed unfazed by the shooting. |
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Not sure if serious. Been in police gunfights? Or any? Adrenalin is both a savior and a curse. It ain't scripted TV. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Thank God the cops did not hit the people behind him. The woman and the cops were very lucky on that one. She seemed unfazed by the shooting. Been in police gunfights? Or any? Adrenalin is both a savior and a curse. It ain't scripted TV. |
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