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Link Posted: 2/14/2020 7:53:04 PM EDT
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Trump should fund one on the stipulation it be named the “Mary Jo Kopechne Memorial Bridge”....
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 7:56:52 PM EDT
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FPNI
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 7:57:51 PM EDT
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So issue bonds for a new bridge, or privatize it, charge a toll for the actual users, why should ALL CITIZENS pay for a bridge only a small, relatively wealthy clique gets to use exclusively?

Not necessary for interstate commerce.

Nor essential for the common defense.

Fix your own shit, MAssholes!
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 7:58:57 PM EDT
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Well the Corps of Engineers was/is responsible for building and rebuilding the bridges I believe.  I think that would be why it's a federal budget item.
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Yeah but that’s only because they did the bridges back in the 1930s when FDR was just making up shit for everyone to do.

There is literally NO reason why MA couldn’t build new bridges themselves.
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 7:59:25 PM EDT
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Between the taxes in MA and the cost of....  well, everything on Cape Cod, the state itself should be able to afford two brand new bridges built out of gold and platinum.
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 8:00:23 PM EDT
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How often do states ask the feds for replacing a states bridge? You'd think they have enough money in MA to fix these bridges with all the taxes they collect?

BOURNE (CBS) – Massachusetts leaders are reaching out to federal officials to express “deep disappointment” in the lack of funding set aside in Washington, D.C. for the replacement of two aging Cape Cod Canal bridges. There’s no mention of the Bourne and Sagamore bridge replacement projects in President Donald Trump’s budget or the United States Army Corps of Engineers’ work plan.

“We are greatly disturbed by this omission of funds for the Cape Cod Canal Bridges and demand answers as to how the USACE plans to finance the replacement of such vital bridges that have long outlived their usefulness,” Sen. Ed Markey, Sen. Elizabeth Warren and Rep. Bill Keating wrote in a letter to Assistant Army for Civil Works Sec. Rickey James and Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney.

A final decision from the Corps on the bridge project is expected in the spring, and the letter writers are concerned that funding won’t be available to get work started immediately.

“We are concerned that this decision reflects a failure to understand the urgency of the situation for the Cape & Islands,” the letter states. “The residents of this region cannot wait multiple years for this project to begin.”

Under the replacement plan, the existing bridges would remain in operation until the new bridges open.

A spokeswoman for the Corps told The Cape Cod Times that they can’t budget for the replacement project until it gets final approval, but they are funded to keep maintaining the bridges for safety purposes.
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What is a "Trump's Bu?"
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 8:00:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/14/2020 8:01:09 PM EDT
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Whose budget?
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 8:05:43 PM EDT
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We're building a wall so there will be less traffic across the bridges.
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Link Posted: 2/14/2020 8:18:53 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/14/2020 8:21:06 PM EDT
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FPNI
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 8:24:51 PM EDT
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Trump should fund one on the stipulation it be named the “Mary Jo Kopechne Memorial Bridge”....
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Good one!
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 8:26:36 PM EDT
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Why not just take the tunnel?
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 8:26:58 PM EDT
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Federal highway funds pay a significant portion of any highway repairs just about everywhere in the nation.
You didn't seriously think that every road project you pass is funded entirely by state and local funding, did you?
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 8:36:27 PM EDT
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They don't have state money for roads and bridges?
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 9:06:26 PM EDT
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They don't have state money for roads and bridges?
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Yes, but that pays a percentage of the cost of any road project. Political leaders at the local and state levels plan on federal reimbursement for a percentage of any project
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 9:16:12 PM EDT
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Muffy and Biff have something to say about this ....................

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Link Posted: 2/14/2020 9:21:32 PM EDT
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Trumps budget should have very little money if any money going to libtard areas of th e country.

Here in WA only the R congressional district should get money.

Seattle/King county, fuck off too bad, you ruined our state.
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 9:30:29 PM EDT
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Solution for those two bridges is complicated by the fact they need to be tall enough for ship traffic transiting the Cape Cod Canal.  Which is U S Army Corps of Engineers run.... So not simply the locals problem.

There’s a third bridge, too.  Railroad.

Of the hundreds of thousands of people that travel those bridges, approximately 3 voted for Trump.

So, fug ‘em.

Oh, and there’s another reason to fug em.  Barack Obama crosses those bridges to get to Martha’s Vineyard....unless he is flying on a biz jet.
Link Posted: 2/14/2020 9:32:45 PM EDT
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Let the Massholes raise some tolls to pay for it, they love tolls so much that they voted to keep them.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 8:23:14 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/15/2020 8:30:17 AM EDT
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Solution for those two bridges is complicated by the fact they need to be tall enough for ship traffic transiting the Cape Cod Canal.  Which is U S Army Corps of Engineers run.... So not simply the locals problem.
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Big ships can just go around the Cape. This is isn’t the fucking Panama Canal, we’re not talking about bypassing entire continents here.

The entire bridge thing was a busywork FDR project. Its actual value to commerce and shipping is negligible.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 8:35:39 AM EDT
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Just use the tunnel....

Link Posted: 2/15/2020 8:36:30 AM EDT
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Pay for your own damn bridge, it's your damn fault you can't manage your tax money.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 8:44:00 AM EDT
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th state built a tunnel in boston and spent 10 billion dollars to do it so they could make the highway a park. There was nothing wrong with that road. They didn't give a shit about cape cod bridges then.

MA spends 1 billion a year on Mass Health to give people health care.

I guess they have shown their priorities.

The 4 republicans tried to pass a law a few years ago to make it illegal for to take EBT money for getting your nails done at a salon, purchasing alcohol and cigarettes. The dems would not pass it.

Besides, I bet somebody might blow those bridges when the Kung Flu hits
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 8:45:41 AM EDT
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Does it exist entirely within the State border?
Was it originally built with State funds?
Then no Federal tit for you to suckle on.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 8:48:37 AM EDT
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Does it exist entirely within the State border?
Was it originally built with State funds?
Then no Federal tit for you to suckle on.
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It was built with fed funds by the army corp of engineers during the depression in 1935
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 9:02:47 AM EDT
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It was built with fed funds by the army corp of engineers during the depression in 1935
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As a busywork FDR project. Not because it was actually needed at the time.

The canal was built 20+ years before the current bridges by a private company, and there was already a bridge over it (roughly same location as the current Sagamore). FDR ordered the Corps to take over the canal and build big bridges because “people need jobs and shit.”
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 9:10:39 AM EDT
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It sure would be nice if they'd used the tolls from the Pike and money from the gas taxes to maintain the roads like they're supposed to, instead of using it to redecorate their Beacon Street townhomes.
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Exactly this.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 9:12:59 AM EDT
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...Also local conservative radio(yes, that's a thing) was laughing at local officials for ripping Trump and then expecting money from him.
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Is there anyone besides Howie?
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 9:25:14 AM EDT
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Cape cod is nothing more than one of the worlds largest heroin dens at this point. Letting those bridges crumble into the canal will probably go a long way into curtailing the “disease” in New England.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 9:29:40 AM EDT
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Cape cod is nothing more than one of the worlds largest heroin dens at this point. Letting those bridges crumble into the canal will probably go a long way into curtailing the “disease” in New England.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 9:31:01 AM EDT
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Springfield has a casino now. All of your problems should be fixed.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 9:31:07 AM EDT
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Cape cod is nothing more than one of the worlds largest heroin dens at this point. Letting those bridges crumble into the canal will probably go a long way into curtailing the "disease" in New England.
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Huh. I didn't know it was different than anywhere else in that regard. There's even an hbo documentary.

learn something new every day.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 9:41:51 AM EDT
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Folks in p-town can't build anything!
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Build your own bridges,  Cape Cod people
Folks in p-town can't build anything!
They can build a huge aids quilt.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 9:43:22 AM EDT
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The optimal solution to the Cape Cod bridge issue would be to encourage P-town to host a joint meeting of state government officials from Massachusetts and Virginia to explore areas of common interest and how to arrive at a final solution to the problem of the right-wing recalcitrants in the western part of their respective states.

Then blow the bridges.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 9:46:49 AM EDT
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Why didn't Mittens take care of it??
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Because it might have cut into his MassHealth scam funds.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 9:47:03 AM EDT
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Is there anyone besides Howie?
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...Also local conservative radio(yes, that's a thing) was laughing at local officials for ripping Trump and then expecting money from him.
Is there anyone besides Howie?
Howie Rules!
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 9:50:44 AM EDT
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How about all those rich leftists snoots finance their own bridge if they like life so much out there
on a dead end service lane

Myself and four other families are fine with paying the maintenance costs of our
mile and a third private road.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 9:52:46 AM EDT
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Howie Rules!
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Yeah, he's excellent. I listen on my evening commute. For those of you who don't know him: https://howiecarrshow.com/
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 9:55:47 AM EDT
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Meanwhile, in the real western MA, all our bridges are crumbling around us, and we get to pay more taxes for the bullshit that happens in eastern MA.
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In this day and age, I imagine it will cost 117 trillion dollars and take 45 years to replace the Sagamore and Bourne bridges.  Get your check book ready.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 10:12:48 AM EDT
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Solution for those two bridges is complicated by the fact they need to be tall enough for ship traffic transiting the Cape Cod Canal.  Which is U S Army Corps of Engineers run.... So not simply the locals problem.

There’s a third bridge, too.  Railroad.

Of the hundreds of thousands of people that travel those bridges, approximately 3 voted for Trump.

So, fug ‘em.

Oh, and there’s another reason to fug em.  Barack Obama crosses those bridges to get to Martha’s Vineyard....unless he is flying on a biz jet.
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Oh, you'd be surprised at the number of Trump voters who live on Cape.  It's the homeowners from Boston, New Jersey and New York that are the commies.  The people who actually work on Cape have a surprising number of Trump voters among them.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 10:16:18 AM EDT
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The majority of the town(Bourne) in which the bridges are located voted for Trump, just for the record.  The majority of South East MA did also.  Although all the other towns aside from Bourne on Cape Cod voted Hillslob.

There is a Trump flag flying high at the entrance to my neighborhood and this is a neighborhood where the average income is well above average.  Don't group us all in.  One could easily call Virginia a liberal shithole which deserves no federal funds, but we know that's not the case.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 10:34:27 AM EDT
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As a western masshole I eagerly say fuck eastern Ma and bacon hill. We’re always getting raped to fund eastern shit. Stop giving yourselves raises for ramming shit through in a one party system. The free shit army can get less free shit and the AG can stop suing everyone. That’ll free up some cash.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 10:43:00 AM EDT
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Whatever happened to VB?
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 10:45:44 AM EDT
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In this day and age, I imagine it will cost 117 trillion dollars and take 45 years to replace the Sagamore and Bourne bridges.  Get your check book ready.
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Don't forget 12 years of some Demcong politician's tax payer funded genital augmentation surgery bother sister's diversity set aside contract engineering firm's environmental, economic and minority stakeholder impact studies.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 10:47:45 AM EDT
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lol fuck your bridge
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Link Posted: 2/15/2020 10:49:53 AM EDT
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How about the Massholes pay for their own bridges?
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Link Posted: 2/15/2020 10:56:13 AM EDT
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Don't forget 12 years of some Demcong politician's tax payer funded genital augmentation surgery bother sister's diversity set aside contract engineering firm's environmental, economic and minority stakeholder impact studies.
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In this day and age, I imagine it will cost 117 trillion dollars and take 45 years to replace the Sagamore and Bourne bridges.  Get your check book ready.
Don't forget 12 years of some Demcong politician's tax payer funded genital augmentation surgery bother sister's diversity set aside contract engineering firm's environmental, economic and minority stakeholder impact studies.
And a 7 year, $60,000,000 special impact study on the effects of bridge construction on the endangered Boston Batwanger.
Link Posted: 2/15/2020 11:07:17 AM EDT
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As a busywork FDR project. Not because it was actually needed at the time.

The canal was built 20+ years before the current bridges by a private company, and there was already a bridge over it (roughly same location as the current Sagamore). FDR ordered the Corps to take over the canal and build big bridges because “people need jobs and shit.”
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It was built with fed funds by the army corp of engineers during the depression in 1935
As a busywork FDR project. Not because it was actually needed at the time.

The canal was built 20+ years before the current bridges by a private company, and there was already a bridge over it (roughly same location as the current Sagamore). FDR ordered the Corps to take over the canal and build big bridges because “people need jobs and shit.”
Interesting, did not know that about an original bridges.

I just read the history. In all fairness they had many accidents due to the swift current and the narrow bridges. I just read a german sub shot at a vessel in cape cod bay during ww1, just 3 miles from the canal. wow.

anyway,  fuck massachusetts
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