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Posted: 9/5/2023 4:25:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is pretty cool. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 4:28:57 PM EDT
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Trains are big and black and smokin' steam, screamin' at the wheels Bigger than anything they is, at least that's the way she feels  Texas 1947 |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 4:31:30 PM EDT
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We couldn't build another one of those today if our lives depended on it
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Posted: 9/5/2023 4:32:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is there always a newer locomotive behind it? because it is what is really powering the train, notice no steam or smoke coming from the steam engine? They are probably just moving it and they don't have the infrastructure to operate steam engines anymore. Looks good though. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 4:33:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now that’s rolling coal in style. Yeah I can’t believe they let that thing operate anywhere in California. FOAMER THREAD |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 4:34:18 PM EDT
[#6]
What a beauty of precision....badass
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Posted: 9/5/2023 4:36:27 PM EDT
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That is truly awesome!
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Posted: 9/5/2023 4:36:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We couldn't build another one of those today if our lives depended on it You serious Clark? Then how did they build them before? It just wouldn't be cost effective and probably cost more than a modern locomotive ($3 million). |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 4:37:24 PM EDT
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what power is pushing it?
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Posted: 9/5/2023 4:38:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Trains are big and black and smokin' steam, screamin' at the wheels Bigger than anything they is, at least that's the way she feels  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an-3RsZxJaEMy grandfather on my father's side was a railroad engineer. 1920-1960; have his Illinois train watch. He paid fifty dollars for it in 1919. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 4:39:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: what power is pushing it? Steam? That's what it sounds like anyway. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 4:46:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: what power is pushing it? Looks like one of Metrolinks F59PHI locomotives, you can go out the side or there's a walkway from the cab next to the engine, then out the back door. They've been replacing them for newer locomotives. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 4:54:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm still skeptical. After all, it is fucking California. No steam visible in any of the valving near the connecting rods. And fuel oil isn't that clean. I'd be willing to wager they're just burning enough fuel to keep the boiler pressurized for the whistle, and the diesel is providing most, if not all, of the tractive effort. Steam powered ships didn't smoke once up to temp unless they wanted to.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 5:02:08 PM EDT
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 The BIG BOY needs a DIESEL HELPER? Why? |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 5:03:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Choo choo motherfuckers! This made me laugh more than it probably should have. 
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Posted: 9/5/2023 5:04:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That think was hauling ASS! I think it was getting pushed by the locomotive behind it, if it was actually doing that speed all on it's own there'd be more smoke coming out. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 5:07:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because a lot of train guys are pretty weird, I remember reading about foamers even early back during the victorian era. There's something about them that brings about a level of autism beyond other hobbies. There was a train guy with a camera on a tripod with a big external microphone standing next to our rural road RR crossing the other day, completely in the middle of nowhere, with a license plate from halfway across the country. They are different. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 5:11:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Backup.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why is there always a newer locomotive behind it? Backup. From an FAQ about the 4014 Big Boy, and I suspect the same is true with this engine: Q: Why is a diesel with Big Boy 4014? A: The diesel serves many purposes. Its dynamic braking saves brake shoes. Its power provides a boost that saves on No. 4014 fuel stops. It’s a much-preferred power source in tunnels. And if Big Boy were disabled on the main line, the diesel could still move the train. In 2021, the diesel is also a part of the Positive Train Control safety system for No. 4014. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 5:18:27 PM EDT
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My favorite thing about this video is all the people with there smart cars and current tech vehicles slowing down and staring directly at that fucking monster of engineering hauling ass down the freeway at freeway speeds pulling a fucking state behind it…
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Posted: 9/5/2023 5:19:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was a train guy with a camera on a tripod with a big external microphone standing next to our rural road RR crossing the other day, completely in the middle of nowhere, with a license plate from halfway across the country. They are different. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because a lot of train guys are pretty weird, I remember reading about foamers even early back during the victorian era. There's something about them that brings about a level of autism beyond other hobbies. There was a train guy with a camera on a tripod with a big external microphone standing next to our rural road RR crossing the other day, completely in the middle of nowhere, with a license plate from halfway across the country. They are different. It's a rare thing. If you have never seen big iron alive then you should if given the chance. An oil converted steamer does not make a lot of smoke. The Diesels are used for electrical power and dynamic braking power. They generally don't do any pushing. I have been lucky enough to have seen a few steamers run in my life. It is worth it every time. I have seen UP 4014, SP 4449, Soo 1003, NW 611 and MR 261. This is the only vid I have up right now.  Milwakee Road 261 One of these days I will post up the other vids I have. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 5:21:48 PM EDT
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The diesel is there for electrical.
Airliner has it's version too. We called them fucking kooks. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 5:33:31 PM EDT
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Beautiful piece of Americana. I like the description of it as "mechanical poetry".
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Posted: 9/5/2023 7:25:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm still skeptical. After all, it is fucking California. No steam visible in any of the valving near the connecting rods. And fuel oil isn't that clean. I'd be willing to wager they're just burning enough fuel to keep the boiler pressurized for the whistle, and the diesel is providing most, if not all, of the tractive effort. I thought so too, but you would be able to clearly hear the big diesel if it was pushing. All you can hear is the steamer chuffing. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 7:30:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a rare thing. If you have never seen big iron alive then you should if given the chance. An oil converted steamer does not make a lot of smoke. The Diesels are used for electrical power and dynamic braking power. They generally don't do any pushing. I have been lucky enough to have seen a few steamers run in my life. It is worth it every time. I have seen UP 4014, SP 4449, Soo 1003, NW 611 and MR 261. This is the only vid I have up right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiqTylLRKfUOne of these days I will post up the other vids I have. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Because a lot of train guys are pretty weird, I remember reading about foamers even early back during the victorian era. There's something about them that brings about a level of autism beyond other hobbies. There was a train guy with a camera on a tripod with a big external microphone standing next to our rural road RR crossing the other day, completely in the middle of nowhere, with a license plate from halfway across the country. They are different. It's a rare thing. If you have never seen big iron alive then you should if given the chance. An oil converted steamer does not make a lot of smoke. The Diesels are used for electrical power and dynamic braking power. They generally don't do any pushing. I have been lucky enough to have seen a few steamers run in my life. It is worth it every time. I have seen UP 4014, SP 4449, Soo 1003, NW 611 and MR 261. This is the only vid I have up right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiqTylLRKfUOne of these days I will post up the other vids I have. There was no steam engine coming through, just a normal daily freight run. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 7:33:15 PM EDT
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Is it CARB compliant?
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Posted: 9/5/2023 7:55:45 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There is steam, you can see the wavy air at times. If you mean there is no black smoke, it's because it is at speed, high a light load and burning efficiently. Steam locomotives produce black smoke under acceleration and heavy load. Also at shows, often on purpose. The black smoke is unburned or partially combusted fuel. No smoke is good. And it doesn’t use coal. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 7:58:56 PM EDT
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That’s sweet!
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Posted: 9/5/2023 7:59:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was no steam engine coming through, just a normal daily freight run. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Because a lot of train guys are pretty weird, I remember reading about foamers even early back during the victorian era. There's something about them that brings about a level of autism beyond other hobbies. There was a train guy with a camera on a tripod with a big external microphone standing next to our rural road RR crossing the other day, completely in the middle of nowhere, with a license plate from halfway across the country. They are different. It's a rare thing. If you have never seen big iron alive then you should if given the chance. An oil converted steamer does not make a lot of smoke. The Diesels are used for electrical power and dynamic braking power. They generally don't do any pushing. I have been lucky enough to have seen a few steamers run in my life. It is worth it every time. I have seen UP 4014, SP 4449, Soo 1003, NW 611 and MR 261. This is the only vid I have up right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiqTylLRKfUOne of these days I will post up the other vids I have. There was no steam engine coming through, just a normal daily freight run. ? |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 9:08:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it CARB compliant? Pre smog bro. You can engine swap whatever you want in to it. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 9:54:30 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is there always a newer locomotive behind it? Air and electric power for everything on the rest of the train. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 10:07:32 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm still skeptical. After all, it is fucking California. No steam visible in any of the valving near the connecting rods. And fuel oil isn't that clean. I'd be willing to wager they're just burning enough fuel to keep the boiler pressurized for the whistle, and the diesel is providing most, if not all, of the tractive effort. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 10:44:24 PM EDT
[#32]
I wonder if there is a warning label on that locomotive stating it is known to causes cancer in California?
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Posted: 9/5/2023 11:02:07 PM EDT
[#33]
 Roads? Where we’re going, we don’t need roads.  |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 11:04:55 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is there always a newer locomotive behind it? Because you want the old girl to get warmed up and get her juices flowing but you don't want to put too much stress on her. There isn't the practical infrastructure to deal with a steam locomotive still in place. There is no parts bin, there aren't crews with the proper tools in the next city and there aren't fuel stations every so many miles to refill the train. If anything breaks, the team on board has to attempt to repair in place. There are probably a ton of other considerations, with the old lady, so it's best to be show her off while being gentle. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 11:05:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Choo choo motherfuckers! You bet! |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 11:11:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is there always a newer locomotive behind it? The Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) only allows engines with a Positive Train Control System to operate on the Class 1 mainline that explains the diesel. Very few exemptions are given. For Example, TVRM is running the Summerville Special with 630 and 4501 on i think Class 2 trackage. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 11:12:09 PM EDT
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Machines are neat in general. Trains, tractors, big construction equipment, ships, oil rigs. What’s not to appreciate?
I’m not into steam as much, show me the diesels. |
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Posted: 9/5/2023 11:15:26 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Machines are neat in general. Trains, tractors, big construction equipment, ships, oil rigs. What’s not to appreciate? I’m not into steam as much, show me the diesels. Do you like Alco switchers? I have plenty of pictures. 
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Posted: 9/5/2023 11:18:28 PM EDT
[#39]
It’s all fun and games until you see the fema box cars hooked up to the back.
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Posted: 9/6/2023 1:11:05 AM EDT
[#40]
3642, 3016, 6029, 5917, four train parallel run.
  3642, 3016, 6029, 5917, four train parallel run |
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Posted: 9/6/2023 1:24:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We couldn't build another one of those today if our lives depended on it There's a group in Britain that's built two and they're working on another. https://www.a1steam.com/ |
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Posted: 9/6/2023 1:32:52 AM EDT
[#42]
I can't remember how old that is but thanks for reposting
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Posted: 9/6/2023 1:34:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a group in Britain that's built two and they're working on another. https://www.a1steam.com/ neat, is it period correct? are they more reliable and efficient? |
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Posted: 9/6/2023 2:21:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's because steam only leaves the cylinders when the cocks are open to drain water, like when it's been sitting. Otherwise they're closed and the exhaust steam runs up the stack to help draw air into the boiler. Watch the top of the boiler. You can see steam from the dynamo. You don't see a lot of black smoke because the fireman is doing his job. This loco was converted to oil long ago, because there aren't large supplies of coal out west. On the front of SP 745's tender there's a stencil that says "black smoke is wasted fuel" to remind the train crew to be mindful of how the boiler is running. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm still skeptical. After all, it is fucking California. No steam visible in any of the valving near the connecting rods. And fuel oil isn't that clean. I'd be willing to wager they're just burning enough fuel to keep the boiler pressurized for the whistle, and the diesel is providing most, if not all, of the tractive effort. There was certainly steam from the whistle when they blew it. My understanding is that they have to clear condensation out of the lines to the cylinders periodically, but she was warmed up on a hot day, so probably not much condenstion. There was a little smoke around 6:00 - 7:00, but she wasn't working very hard. California's sensitivity and not wanting to wear things out. |
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Posted: 9/6/2023 2:26:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Steam powered ships didn't smoke once up to temp unless they wanted to. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/361372/New-Jersey-Underway-2232_jpeg-2943886.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm still skeptical. After all, it is fucking California. No steam visible in any of the valving near the connecting rods. And fuel oil isn't that clean. I'd be willing to wager they're just burning enough fuel to keep the boiler pressurized for the whistle, and the diesel is providing most, if not all, of the tractive effort. Steam powered ships didn't smoke once up to temp unless they wanted to. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/361372/New-Jersey-Underway-2232_jpeg-2943886.JPG That's not a Wind class cutter! 
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Posted: 9/6/2023 2:44:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pre smog bro. You can engine swap whatever you want in to it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is it CARB compliant? Pre smog bro. You can engine swap whatever you want in to it. You must call CARB and whoever else before you fire off those leaking Fairbanks Morris behemoths, 16 cylinders, opposed pistons, sadist in their day, absolut terrorists/masochistic in the modern, age. I grew up on them, EMD's dirty and clean Dirty D's and a few Cummings. So glad I took the side road in my career path. |
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Posted: 9/6/2023 3:03:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We couldn't build another one of those today if our lives depended on it The Saturn V of its era. |
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Posted: 9/6/2023 3:09:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was certainly steam from the whistle when they blew it. My understanding is that they have to clear condensation out of the lines to the cylinders periodically, but she was warmed up on a hot day, so probably not much condenstion. There was a little smoke around 6:00 - 7:00, but she wasn't working very hard. California's sensitivity and not wanting to wear things out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm still skeptical. After all, it is fucking California. No steam visible in any of the valving near the connecting rods. And fuel oil isn't that clean. I'd be willing to wager they're just burning enough fuel to keep the boiler pressurized for the whistle, and the diesel is providing most, if not all, of the tractive effort. There was certainly steam from the whistle when they blew it. My understanding is that they have to clear condensation out of the lines to the cylinders periodically, but she was warmed up on a hot day, so probably not much condenstion. There was a little smoke around 6:00 - 7:00, but she wasn't working very hard. California's sensitivity and not wanting to wear things out. Blowing out was preffed on the ancient ship's that served on , just after midnight out of sight and away from the pier. With the captains permission. |
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