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Posted: 8/4/2020 6:56:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: geez that looks like something out of hollywood... Quote HistoryI'd like to see this frame-by-frame. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 6:56:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. He is our president. Remember he has access to intel way above our level. It caught me off guard that he flat out said the consensus was it was an attack and not accident. He is also known to talk completely out of his ass, fairly regularly. Lol |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 6:57:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: geez that looks like something out of hollywood... Quote HistoryOnce the pressure wave hit and the debris started raining down, I suspect that this video went from being a documentary to a snuff film. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 6:58:50 PM EDT
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I guess the upside is, they don't need to worry about any secondary boobytraps before they move in to examine the site.
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Posted: 8/4/2020 6:59:31 PM EDT
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that seriously looks rigged fire works do not sympathetic detonate, for for fire works to movs right to left like in this video there nust be time fuse involved |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 6:59:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
It took 28 seconds for the shockwave to arrive  |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:00:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. No pipeline and no obvious chemical storage tanks. Maybe a ship itself went off unless they were storing ordinance in those warehouses which probably isn't kosher. 
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:00:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is it that airbursts (nuclear and otherwise) cause so much more damage than a ground detonation? I’ve never really seen that explained well. Grab a flashlight. Turn it on. Hold it an inch from a surface and look at the illuminated area. Now hold it a foot from the same surface and compare the illuminated area. Now think about the photons being heat, pressure, and fragmentation. And, in the case of a nuke, add-in radiation and the EM pulse. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:00:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is it that airbursts (nuclear and otherwise) cause so much more damage than a ground detonation? I’ve never really seen that explained well. ground detonation: large proportion of the explosive energy goes to digging the crater |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:02:52 PM EDT
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So I guess the is the largest explosion IN a major city since Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Plenty will want to study the after effects. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:03:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. No pipeline and no obvious chemical storage tanks. Maybe a ship itself went off unless they were storing ordinance in those warehouses which probably isn't kosher.   Puts me to mind of the explosion at the fertilizer plant at West, Texas a few years back. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:04:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump said moments ago during his presser that “generals, great generals” believe that the Beirut explosion was “an attack” and not a warehouse accident. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:04:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He is also known to talk apparently completely out of his ass, fairly regularly but is usually proven correct over time. Lol FIFY |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:05:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was a huge silo-building right there before the explosion...which isn't there afterwards. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtoZsvhWoAA3fX9.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eely-RtXsAkvf5V.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Interesting. No pipeline and no obvious chemical storage tanks. Maybe a ship itself went off unless they were storing ordinance in those warehouses which probably isn't kosher. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtoZsvhWoAA3fX9.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eely-RtXsAkvf5V.jpg Its still there, just damaged.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:05:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ground detonation: large proportion of the explosive energy goes to digging the crater Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why is it that airbursts (nuclear and otherwise) cause so much more damage than a ground detonation? I’ve never really seen that explained well. ground detonation: large proportion of the explosive energy goes to digging the crater Correct. We did all kinds of nuclear tests to understand optimum detonation altitudes. Ground detonation doesn’t put the energy where it’s needed for maximum destruction. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:06:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Video of Shockwave in tweet wow wee woah! That's so big! 
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:06:26 PM EDT
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Witnesses have stressed the sheer enormity of the blast, which was heard 125 miles away in Cyprus, and likened it to a 'nuclear bomb'.
It obliterated the immediate surrounding buildings, where firefighters were still battling flames last night, and even inflicted damage on districts miles away from the blast site. General Security chief Abbas Ibrahim said: 'It appears that there is a warehouse containing material that was confiscated years ago, and it appears that it was highly explosive material.' Lebanon's interior minister said ammonium nitrate had been stored in the unit since 2014, with experts agreeing that the chemical would cause the red plume of smoke which burst up from the blast. Local media are reporting that 2,700 tonnes of the chemical exploded, which scientists making initial calculations said was about three kilotonnes of TNT - roughly a fifth of the Little Boy atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima in the Second World War. A 'strange smell' at the port has apparently led officials to instruct civilians to leave for fear of any harmful toxins. Prime Minister Hassan Diab vowed in a televised address that 'those responsible for this catastrophe will pay the price,' and declared Wednesday a day of national mourning.        More |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:07:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: that seriously looks rigged fire works do not sympathetic detonate, for for fire works to movs right to left like in this video there nust be time fuse involved Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
that seriously looks rigged fire works do not sympathetic detonate, for for fire works to movs right to left like in this video there nust be time fuse involved He was MUCH closer than 100 meters. Maybe ~50 feet from the building that blew up. This is the filming location, north west corner of the silo standing near the pipe.   |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:09:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I guess the is the largest explosion IN a major city since Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Plenty will want to study the after effects. The Texas City disaster happened in 1947. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:10:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I guess the is the largest explosion IN a major city since Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Plenty will want to study the after effects. This happened in a similar port city in China, and it might have been bigger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Tianjin_explosions PEPCON was pretty epic, and it happened pretty close to Vegas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEPCON_disaster You may well be correct, just throwing out some other possible challengers. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:10:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which is why strictly just 2700 tons of Ammonium nitrate doesn't seem very plausible. That's enough to make a huge explosion. But this was like a tactical nuke level explosion. There is no delivery device/bomb other than a nuke that could be delivered by an aircraft or missile. I still think it was hidden storage or rocket fuel for scuds or like missiles. That orange cloud is a huge tell. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:11:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its still there, just damaged. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416227/58CF329D-94A9-40E2-B257-CA03F8C5E132_jpe-1533037.JPG  |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:11:43 PM EDT
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That's equivalent of 1.1kt of TNT I do believe. Everyone I ever knew that hailed from that city was generally a good shit. Sad day for them. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:11:54 PM EDT
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I have a feeling we aren't going to get the truth to what it really was.
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:12:55 PM EDT
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Holy shnikes. Wow.
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:13:24 PM EDT
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3 kilotons can do an awful lot of damage. Especially if the silos directed the blast into the city.
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:14:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He was MUCH closer than 100 meters. Maybe ~50 feet from the building that blew up. This is the filming location, north west corner of the silo standing near the pipe. https://i.imgur.com/ml7X8Vc.png https://i.imgur.com/GwVHC3l.png
Phones are impressively hard to destroy via overpressure. ETA:
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:14:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Made a gif of the blast wave. https://media0.giphy.com/media/TEpBfs7J1AenMpi9SD/giphy.gif?cid=4d1e4f29a08b80a205d7a20543bd893288e1c1dea1b7bea7&rid=giphy.gif cool gif Needs a no beans in chili tag |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:15:23 PM EDT
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soooooooo, was this fireworks or an attack?
any link to what trump said? |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:15:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: correct me if im wrong (in a civilian) but is there any non-nuclear device that could make an explosion like that? im guess no. ammonium nitrate will probably be a player in this disaster. as soon as i heard about it i though of the texas city disaster. i wonder if that blast was bigger than something like a davy crocket nuke or artillery nuke. the videos of that explosion is downright horrifying. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I keep watching different videos. Shit is crazy. correct me if im wrong (in a civilian) but is there any non-nuclear device that could make an explosion like that? im guess no. ammonium nitrate will probably be a player in this disaster. as soon as i heard about it i though of the texas city disaster. i wonder if that blast was bigger than something like a davy crocket nuke or artillery nuke. the videos of that explosion is downright horrifying. Several things were cooking off before the large explosion. Probably 10-20 items, ordnance or fireworks. Upon review of the nearby video, it looks like a fire, then deflagration, small explosions and then boom. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:15:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This happened in a similar port city in China, and it might have been bigger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Tianjin_explosions PEPCON was pretty epic, and it happened pretty close to Vegas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEPCON_disaster You may well be correct, just throwing out some other possible challengers. Tianjin was only 29% the equivalent of Beirut and Pepcon second blast was about 1 kt, an estimated 1/3 of this event.. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:15:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Grab a flashlight. Turn it on. Hold it an inch from a surface and look at the illuminated area. Now hold it a foot from the same surface and compare the illuminated area. Now think about the photons being heat, pressure, and fragmentation. And, in the case of a nuke, add-in radiation and the EM pulse. Thank you! That’s a good analogy. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:16:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Texas City disaster happened in 1947. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So I guess the is the largest explosion IN a major city since Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Plenty will want to study the after effects. The Texas City disaster happened in 1947. But that was not actually in the city, it was in the industrial/oil refinery/port area. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:16:51 PM EDT
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Being that the explosion happened on a pier over a body of water, how much (if any) would that have amplified the effects/shockwave?
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:16:57 PM EDT
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So the jews did not do this?
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:18:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a feeling we aren't going to get the truth to what it really was. Correct |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:19:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: geez that looks like something out of hollywood... Quote History |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:20:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There were obviously foreworks going off in the smoke. And those set off the ANFO. or hezbola rockets going off in place. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:20:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Not 100% correct. TM added fuel to the AN to make ANFO. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:21:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I doubt theirs was slurried with nitromethane. 
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:21:56 PM EDT
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#tinfoil
Someone was planning on doing something very bad with all that ANFO and the Joos beat them to the punch. I'm not an explosives expert or even close. But I have to imagine that storing that much dangerous chemical in an unsecured location wasn't an accident. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:22:11 PM EDT
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 SpaceX crew dragon failure. Note the color of the smoke. That was a ROCKET FUEL explosion. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:23:04 PM EDT
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Jesus... judging by the aftermatch photos and highrises that were completely gutted, the death toll has to be thousands.
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:24:23 PM EDT
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Now would be a good time for the US to send aid or medivac injured folks.
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:24:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is it that airbursts (nuclear and otherwise) cause so much more damage than a ground detonation? I’ve never really seen that explained well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And, if that explosion had been an airburst a thousand or so feet above the ground, the damage would have been far, far worse. Why is it that airbursts (nuclear and otherwise) cause so much more damage than a ground detonation? I’ve never really seen that explained well. The fireball, thermal radiation, and overpressure envelopes of nuclear weapons are more than enough to get the job done. No need to overcomplicate matters. Getting back to the airburst concept: with respect to overpressure, ground interactions and shock reflections lessen the effects of the primary overpressure, so raising the point of the explosion helps to maximize the overpressure effects, but raising it too high reduces the overpressure effects. It's a balance. One of the things that lessened the severity of this explosion is that half of the hemisphere was more or less empty sea, rather than high rises. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:24:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Phones are impressively hard to destroy via overpressure. ETA:
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He was MUCH closer than 100 meters. Maybe ~50 feet from the building that blew up. This is the filming location, north west corner of the silo standing near the pipe. https://i.imgur.com/ml7X8Vc.png https://i.imgur.com/GwVHC3l.png
Phones are impressively hard to destroy via overpressure. ETA:
That AN has been in there a long time. There is a LOT of dust/dirt on the tops of those bags. Kinda backs up the seized ship story. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:25:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: geez that looks like something out of hollywood... Fuckin A it does..... nuts |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:28:00 PM EDT
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So what happened? Did the goat fuckers loose an IED factory?
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:29:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a feeling we aren't going to get the truth to what it really was. That’s because it was Iranian rocket and bomb parts for their proxies. Soleimani looked after a lot of things, very effectively. There will be more of this until it’s all burned down. |
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Posted: 8/4/2020 7:29:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is it that airbursts (nuclear and otherwise) cause so much more damage than a ground detonation? I’ve never really seen that explained well. Like others said, its all about where you put the energy. If you can burst it above ground level, that energy gets to spread outwards rather than digging down. If you really want to get into a rabbit hole of information, check out "Nuclear Vault" and "Periscope Films" channels on Youtube on the nuclear testing we did. Lots of good information to be gathered there, and while searching check out information on the development of the MOAB. It is also designed to detonate for maximum overpressure by "airburst" in the sense it detonates above the surface rather than relying on digging in. Plus with nuclear devices, explosions on the surface kick up more fallout and debris compared to an airburst. I seem to recall airburst had some weird pressure waves with it due to being directed down and then it would meet the outward ones, but I could be confusing the ones they tested submerged targets that had reflections off the ocean floor. |
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