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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:07:06 PM EST
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Lol. That’s rich, coming from a speaker who presided over two shutdowns and is widely panned as the cause of the shitty performance of the Rs in the 1998 midterms. We should definitely listen to someone like him in times like now. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:08:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are the one confessing to not being able to use critical thinking to consider the consequences of the day. Don’t get all pissy just because I notice your self-professed shortcomings. Lol. Ok, Machiavelli. Keep snorting your own farts and thinking you’re the smartest guy in the room. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:09:09 PM EST
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Long time reader, first time poster.
Propagandists acting for a foreign nation spam every thread related to that nation, in opposition to every poll conducted on both Republicans generally and Arfcommers specifically. Now they're doing the same as it relates to domestic politics, presumably to benefit that same foreign nation. How do you feel about that? |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:11:14 PM EST
[#4]
F Mccarthy.
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:14:15 PM EST
[#5]
https://x.com/LeadingReport/status/1709386925969178752?s=03
Trump says he's open for taking the Speakers Seat. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:15:27 PM EST
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:16:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I support this 100% Quote History?? % |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:16:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I support this 100% I'd support it too. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:17:08 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://x.com/LeadingReport/status/1709386925969178752?s=03 Trump says he's open for taking the Speakers Seat. That is gonna make people mad. As in people in GD. 
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:17:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gaetz is the only one you can listen to and believe he isn't full of shit. Straight honest talk while all the pundits are trying to tear him apart. They all want business as usual, just one more CR then we will pass a budget. Washington doesn't understand the people are about sick of it. Actually, I can't listen to Gaetz without thinking he's completely full of shit. He's a grifting political sleazebag same as the people he's posing against. He's in the power politics game. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:17:26 PM EST
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This whole thing is a shit show.
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:18:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually, I can't listen to Gaetz without thinking he's completely full of shit. He's a grifting political sleazebag same as the people he's posing against. He's in the power politics game. I guess we will find out. Mc carthy fits the description you posted to the T also. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:20:54 PM EST
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I had Newt Gingrich in my home in the 1990s. He is no longer relevant and wasn't really than. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:21:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. That’s rich, coming from a speaker who presided over two shutdowns and is widely panned as the cause of the shitty performance of the Rs in the 1998 midterms. We should definitely listen to someone like him in times like now. And he also engineered the first Republican House majority in, what, 40 years? The Republican party needs some of what Newt brought to the game. Where's our 21st century contract with America? In part thanks to Trump, the Republican party has literally no agenda and no principles. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:21:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. That’s rich, coming from a speaker who presided over two shutdowns and is widely panned as the cause of the shitty performance of the Rs in the 1998 midterms. We should definitely listen to someone like him in times like now. So, Newt Gingrich Government Shutdown = BAD Matt Gaetz Government Shutdown= GOOD ? 
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:21:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess we will find out. Mc carthy fits the description you posted to the T also. Believe me, I think they're two sides of the same coin. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:25:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I support this 100% Quote HistorySo you’re super concerned about the effects on competitive 2024 races of the optics/fallout of McCarthy being ousted, but you 100% support replacing him with one of the most divisive and controversial politicians in the nation’s history? Do I have that right? |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:27:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would seem to be the fault of the “moderates”. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just wait until a few ‘moderate’ republicans team up with the democrats to put a D in charge because the business of the country has to move on. Then Gaetz can take credit for it. That would seem to be the fault of the “moderates”. Who were never moderates to begin with.....they are Democrats disguised as RINOs. We will get a shit Speaker as his replacement no doubt but McCrappy keeps selling us out so he is no savior. No loss. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:29:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For the next couple weeks, the whole country will be watching the Republicans in their favorite formation: the circular firing squad. Americans will all be watching this daily, because the liberal media will be showcasing it front and center to show how dysfunctional the Republican party is, how unworthy to lead the party is. Guess the blind squirrel will find a nut tomorrow. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:29:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you’re super concerned about the effects on competitive 2024 races of the optics/fallout of McCarthy being ousted, but you 100% support replacing him with one of the most divisive and controversial politicians in the nation’s history? Do I have that right? Quote HistoryQuoted: So you’re super concerned about the effects on competitive 2024 races of the optics/fallout of McCarthy being ousted, but you 100% support replacing him with one of the most divisive and controversial politicians in the nation’s history? Do I have that right? Ahh… So you actually DO recognize the risk today’s events pose to the 2024 elections, but were just pretending to be unaware? lol |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:29:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And he also engineered the first Republican House majority in, what, 40 years? The Republican party needs some of what Newt brought to the game. Where's our 21st century contract with America? In part thanks to Trump, the Republican party has literally no agenda and no principles. Oh shit, I didn’t know Hannity had an account here. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:30:49 PM EST
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Gingrich is the ultimate professional politician. Yeah he knows how to play the game. That's what we're trying to get rid of. Endless games where the citizens are always the losers.
I hope they invite the Shaman back to help move Pelosi's shit out of her old office. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:32:56 PM EST
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Anyone who took the time to listen to his comments as he answered every criticism knows he is a fucking hero. Gaetz has balls as big as church bells and he spoke truth.
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:33:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You've explained nothing and acted like an insufferable know-it-all, as usual. Maybe you should run. You'd certainly fit in there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That explains things. You've explained nothing and acted like an insufferable know-it-all, as usual. Maybe you should run. You'd certainly fit in there.  |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:34:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're trying to talk sense into the original arfcom double-masker triple-vaxxer Rona Bro who has since graduated to full-fledged Ukebro. It's been a strong 3 year run of know-it-all-ism Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That explains things. You've explained nothing and acted like an insufferable know-it-all, as usual. Maybe you should run. You'd certainly fit in there. That’s a bald-faced lie. Is this who you are? You can do better. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:34:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://x.com/LeadingReport/status/1709386925969178752?s=03 Trump says he's open for taking the Speakers Seat. Leading Report is not an actual news site. A lot of their claims have been absolute bullshit. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:35:40 PM EST
[#27]
End the personal attacks or this thread will be locked, and warnings will be issued.
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:35:52 PM EST
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:38:02 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ahh… So you actually DO recognize the risk today’s events pose to the 2024 elections, but were just pretending to be unaware? lol Any big move in politics has “risk.” You haven’t identified a single variable or how it will be affected. Anyone who claims to be able to, at this time, predict what the net effect will be on the elections 13 months from now, is an utter carnival barker. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:38:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What you call a RINO is The Real GOP. Those that don't smoke The Establishment brand of crack are the outsiders and imposters. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe now the RINO will finally be run out of the GOP. Those that don't smoke The Establishment brand of crack are the outsiders and imposters. Until they understand this, there is no future. The so-called RINOs are the ones setting policy for the party, not the conservative voters. They stole the party from you and turned it into Dem-lite. The chance of actual conservatives taking back control of the Republican party is essentially zero. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:38:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Long time reader, first time poster. Propagandists acting for a foreign nation spam every thread related to that nation, in opposition to every poll conducted on both Republicans generally and Arfcommers specifically. Now they're doing the same as it relates to domestic politics, presumably to benefit that same foreign nation. How do you feel about that?  |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:40:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any big move in politics has “risk.” You haven’t identified a single variable or how it will be affected. Anyone who claims to be able to, at this time, predict what the net effect will be on the elections 13 months from now, is an utter carnival barker. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ahh… So you actually DO recognize the risk today’s events pose to the 2024 elections, but were just pretending to be unaware? lol Any big move in politics has “risk.” You haven’t identified a single variable or how it will be affected. Anyone who claims to be able to, at this time, predict what the net effect will be on the elections 13 months from now, is an utter carnival barker. Big move? All that changed was a new display of disfunction. Are you suggesting that the electorate will like Republicans MORE or LESS? Or are you saying that it’s utterly impossible to analyze such things? lol |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:44:25 PM EST
[#33]
What was your previous screen name?
Quote HistoryQuoted: Long time reader, first time poster. Propagandists acting for a foreign nation spam every thread related to that nation, in opposition to every poll conducted on both Republicans generally and Arfcommers specifically. Now they're doing the same as it relates to domestic politics, presumably to benefit that same foreign nation. How do you feel about that? |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:45:52 PM EST
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FUNNY HOW DEMOCRATS ARE ALWAYS ON THE SAME PAGE AND WORKING TOGETHER TO DESTROY AMERICA...REPUBLICANS WILL JUST SLIT EACH OTHER THROAT AND TRY TO OUT RINO EACH OTHER...
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:46:36 PM EST
[#35]
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:48:56 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Big move? All that changed was a new display of disfunction. Are you suggesting that the electorate will like Republicans MORE or LESS? Or are you saying that it’s utterly impossible to analyze such things? lol Vacating the speaker in this manner has literally never happened before - so yes, big move. Yes, it’s impossible to analyze in any meaningful way, because there are way too many endogenous and confounding variables. And that’s before we even get to “what happens next and why” as a result. Which literally nobody knows or can predict. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:50:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not a cut if the amount of money doesn't decrease.  Baseline budgeting is nonsense. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When Gaetz delivers an omnibus, or a much worse budgeting outcome than an 8% total spending cut, what are you going to say? That he was betrayed? Because the 8% spending cut had the votes to pass had it not been for Gaetz and his cabal. Time for Matt Gaetz to show he can deliver better results. No excuses. The baseline is an 8% total federal spending cut. Not a soul can say it can't pass. It would've passed fine had Gaetz and his group voted for it. Oh, it will shutdown the government you say? THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT HE'S MAD AT MCCARTHY FOR NOT DOING. Either Gaetz delivers a better outcome than the 8% spending cut or he should resign in disgrace. But he won't. Because it was never about the issues or principles. It was about the flashing cameras and news hits. It's not a cut if the amount of money doesn't decrease. Baseline budgeting is nonsense. I know you think your little talking point (already attempted by several posters) is cute but it was an actual 8% cut from last year's fiscal budget. Yes, an actual reduction in dollars spent. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:52:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are the one confessing to not being able to use critical thinking to consider the consequences of the day. Don’t get all pissy just because I notice your self-professed shortcomings. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That explains things. You’ve explained nothing and acted like an insufferable know-it-all, as usual. Maybe you should run. You’d certainly fit in there. You are the one confessing to not being able to use critical thinking to consider the consequences of the day. Don’t get all pissy just because I notice your self-professed shortcomings. To be fair, all you've done is claim something without proof and then accused everyone else of being dumb for not agreeing with it. That's a typical tactic of those without actual facts. 
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:53:44 PM EST
[#39]
It's one big carnival in American politics and GD. Enjoy the decline.
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:55:18 PM EST
[#40]
This appears to be breaking down along familiar lines.... |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:56:26 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Big move? All that changed was a new display of disfunction. Are you suggesting that the electorate will like Republicans MORE or LESS? Or are you saying that it’s utterly impossible to analyze such things? lol What if the only way to stop the madness is dysfunction? It's certainly not doing the same exact thing since Reagan and expecting something different all the while watching the same results play out right in front of your eyes, right? They'll like us if we don't make waves amirite????? NO! They fucking hate you dude. No amount of appeasing will suffice. You acquiesce to their demands, but they don't offer you something in return...they push their agenda even further and expect you to keep making compromises. We cannot keep compromising our country away. It doesn't work. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:56:58 PM EST
[#42]
you're clearly for big gov, spending us to oblivion, a fully open border and pro ukraine. spreadsheet updated.
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:56:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's simply amazing that you just continue to ignore the actual substance of what happened today because muh R. Every single Republican that voted to keep McCarthy is a spineless RINO and I hope they all get primaried by true conservatives. If we continue to tolerate getting fucked in the ass by RINOs, then we're going to continue to get fucked in the ass by RINOs. McCarthy was a fucking democrat. Hopefully this sends a message and swings the worthless spineless party called the Republicans a few degrees to the right. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They don't have to switch parties, they just vote together. Like they did today. It's simply amazing that you just continue to ignore the actual substance of what happened today because muh R. Every single Republican that voted to keep McCarthy is a spineless RINO and I hope they all get primaried by true conservatives. If we continue to tolerate getting fucked in the ass by RINOs, then we're going to continue to get fucked in the ass by RINOs. McCarthy was a fucking democrat. Hopefully this sends a message and swings the worthless spineless party called the Republicans a few degrees to the right. Sounds like you want the Dems to control about 250 - 260 seats in the House. Do you live on Planet Earth? |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:57:06 PM EST
[#44]
How about some Trump as speaker?
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:57:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Vacating the speaker in this manner has literally never happened before - so yes, big move. Yes, it’s impossible to analyze in any meaningful way, because there are way too many endogenous and confounding variables. And that’s before we even get to “what happens next and why” as a result. Which literally nobody knows or can predict. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Big move? All that changed was a new display of disfunction. Are you suggesting that the electorate will like Republicans MORE or LESS? Or are you saying that it’s utterly impossible to analyze such things? lol Vacating the speaker in this manner has literally never happened before - so yes, big move. Yes, it’s impossible to analyze in any meaningful way, because there are way too many endogenous and confounding variables. And that’s before we even get to “what happens next and why” as a result. Which literally nobody knows or can predict. You have effectively diagnosed the problem. You correctly claim that it is impossible the predict the cascading effects of this event, because NO ONE knows “what happens next and why.” Does that sound like sound decision-making that is demonstrative of steady leadership? Why would Gaetz make such a move, if he had no idea “what happens next and why”? |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:58:05 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What was your previous screen name? It's far more entertaining to read. As a casual reader I thought it would be interesting to make an observation. I don't have any desire to engage in internet arguments. Ciao |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:59:14 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't realize he was that big of a pussy that he did not give ol Nancy the boot out of HIS office. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That by itself makes this entire thing worth it. I didn't realize he was that big of a pussy that he did not give ol Nancy the boot out of HIS office. It's a hideaway office off the House floor. Former Speakers have always been given one. It's not the actual office for the active Speaker. Do people seriously believe this kind of stuff? That McCarthy and the GOP would be scared to actually make Pelosi move out of the Speaker's office after her party lost control? |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 10:59:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair, all you've done is claim something without proof and then accused everyone else of being dumb for not agreeing with it. That's a typical tactic of those without actual facts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That explains things. You’ve explained nothing and acted like an insufferable know-it-all, as usual. Maybe you should run. You’d certainly fit in there. You are the one confessing to not being able to use critical thinking to consider the consequences of the day. Don’t get all pissy just because I notice your self-professed shortcomings. To be fair, all you've done is claim something without proof and then accused everyone else of being dumb for not agreeing with it. That's a typical tactic of those without actual facts. The facts that political events affect politics? |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 11:01:00 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like you want the Dems to control about 250 - 260 seats in the House. Do you live on Planet Earth? How does firing a shitty speaker lead to 250-260 dems controlling the House? 11 fucking pages, and nobody making this kind of claim has offered anything even approaching a cogent explanation. And no, vague and alarmist assumptions about the 2024 cycle is not a cogent explanation. |
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Posted: 10/3/2023 11:02:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The facts that political events affect politics? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That explains things. You’ve explained nothing and acted like an insufferable know-it-all, as usual. Maybe you should run. You’d certainly fit in there. You are the one confessing to not being able to use critical thinking to consider the consequences of the day. Don’t get all pissy just because I notice your self-professed shortcomings. To be fair, all you've done is claim something without proof and then accused everyone else of being dumb for not agreeing with it. That's a typical tactic of those without actual facts. The facts that political events affect politics? You keep making an appeal to ignorance. Its a typical fallacy. Explain exactly how the vote today improves the Democrats in 2024. Swing voters in risky districts really liked McCarthy? They'll switch to D because the R wanted a new speaker? They will be dismayed by chaos and not turn out to vote? Support your own argument instead of pretending everyone is dumb who doesn't see what you think is obvious. |
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