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I don't hate McCarthy but he did break his promises to do clean budget bills and give everyone 72 hours to read bills.

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What about Byron Donalds?

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1 out of 8 Americans lives in California and 6 million of them voted for Trump in the last presidential election. That's greater than the population of 31 of the other 49 states.

Conservative Patriots have very few allies in this nation.
We should be supporting our brothers and sisters behind enemy lines, not insulting them or encouraging them to run away.

We consistently slam Democrats here, but I can't imagine people on DU slam like-minded individuals there simply because they live in a red state. It's fairly pathetic that we need to look to their example for how to stick together in a fight.

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@Blu3Ridge

4% of the GOP just told 96% of the GOP they are somehow morally superior to them.  Some of arfcom want us to support Ukraine, some don't.  Okay, I get it.  

But those are same POS's who insist because McCarthy made a deal to support Ukraine he is now somehow bad.

Gaetz is still a traitor to the party and to the country.  The dems win again because a POS RINO has a stick up his ass.

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@Blu3Ridge

4% of the GOP just told 96% of the GOP they are somehow morally superior to them.  Some of arfcom want us to support Ukraine, some don't.  Okay, I get it.  

But those are same POS's who insist because McCarthy made a deal to support Ukraine he is now somehow bad.

Gaetz is still a traitor to the party and to the country.  The dems win again because a POS RINO has a stick up his ass.

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Fuck McCarthy and his closed door deals with the devil.

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The vitriol exhibited in this thread is representative of the current Republican party.

We are eating our own while the Dem's sit on the sideline dining on popcorn and watch this shitshow.

I have no idea what/if this party looks like in 10 years. It's quite an embarrassment.

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...   For example, the other night, right before turning in with the wife, I grabbed a report someone submitted for a personal attack. Sure looked like one when I reviewed it but it was the end of a longer reply chain in a 9 page thread, so I went back and read the entire chain of replies.  And then, because of other replies I saw in the thread when doing so, I decided I needed to read the entire thread to understand the context to really be fair.  That meant I had to read over 400 replies before deciding what to do with the originally reported one. The wife was long asleep when I got to bed an hour or so later.

I'm not looking for thanks or even understanding. I volunteer to do this because I love this place, and if it gets to be too much, I'll turn in my CCW mod sash. Instead, I just wanted to give you some context for these decisions.

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Fuck McCarthy and his closed door deals with the devil.

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Hell, McCarthy didn't even make Nancy Pelosi give up her Speaker's office even though she's no longer Speaker as though his intent is that she'll be Speaker again as soon as he can arrange it.

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McCarthy promised transparency. He then sided with MTG and decided not to share all the Jan 6 footage. He decided not to share information on informants and undercover agents within the crowd.

He did nothing about DHS Secretary being a worthless POS. He promised all these things to the American people and turned out to be nothing but talk and his actions were completely different than the words that came out his mouth.

We need someone in there willing to make waves and beholden to the people and not politicians.

He is out as speaker. That isn’t going to change. What is done is done. Now, it is up to s bunch of worthless politicians to determine who will be the head worthless politicians

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Maybe, just maybe, the entire house of cards that is our government is at a breaking point and needs to fall apart. I'm not an anarchist and I don't want to burn down the entire system. But we're facing a crisis larger than just this event today. The crisis is our government as a whole works off the faith of the people. The people have no faith in it anymore. Our government is an authoritarian juggernaut that beats the people into submission. All while the members of government loot and fleece the people. And this is on both sides of the political aisle.

The pandemic showed lawmakers and officials on both sides of the aisle living it up, while the people were scraping by, dealing with edicts and orders that restricted their rights. You had a lawmaker that literally was a vegetable being pushed around in wheelchair, voting on matters of importance that have tremendous repercussions on everyday Americans.

The younger generations are tired of it, both the Left and Right. They're tired of a social elite who never faces any real consequences for their actions. People who never have to worry about having to not pay a credit-card bill so their kids can eat and have power in their homes or even simply have a roof over their heads.

That's why the Democrats is becoming more and more socialist. The younger generation has started to take over the Democrats. But the Republicans have become the party of the retiree and I see it daily.

Younger Constitutionalists, many veterans of the GWOT, are cast aside by the GOP. The vast majority of GOP members that have power within the party are folks who should be retired and in nursing homes. Not dictating party policy based on ideals held in the late 1960s.

I've literally had Republicans tell me in my face, that Florida never should have Constitutional Carry because they grew up on a turpentine farm and their Father was an overseer of Black laborers and the idea of said laborers being armed scared them.

Meanwhile, younger members of the party are told to sit down and shut-up. "It isn't their time" yet to shape party policy because they haven't put in the time and effort. Yet these younger folks are combat vets and they put in their time serving the country, all while the ones holding power were draft dodgers or of the age that skipped Vietnam just by a hair. Telling younger people to sit down and shut-up since it isn't their time is wrong.

Again, the Conservative Movement is a joke and is mostly made up of 80s and 90s era Democrats who live in Republican districts. As the Overton Window further shifts leftward, so does the Republican Party and its push to conserve the status quo. What what pray tell has the GOP done on a national level? Have they reduced the scope and scale of government? Have they restored and expanded our civil rights and liberties? Have they reduced the tax burden on "we the people?" Have they even followed their own party planks?

No, they haven't. All they've done is fleece the public and the public is tired of it. They're tired of being taken advantage of and bent over and fucked. They're tired of seeing a political class that is lives care-free and suffers no consequences for their actions. They're tired of being promised time after time, and those promises being broken time after time.

People are tried of it.

You have Conservatives spending political capital to prevent Democrats from destroying memorials to dead slave owning Democrats that seceded from the Union. What you don't have Conservatives do is actually follow their own party plank. They don't reduce the scope and scale of government nor do they actually restore and expand out civil rights.

As the Overton Window continues to shift further leftward, the Conservatives will continue to defend the status quo.

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Again, the GOP is dead at this point, the body just doesn't know it yet.

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No, but this is not how you fix things.

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Donald Trump promised transparency. He then sided with the CIA and decided not to share all the JFK files.

He did nothing about Fauci, and Wray, and...his entire cabinet? being a worthless POS. He promised a wall that Mexico would pay for, and it turned out to be nothing but talk and his actions were completely different than the words that came out his mouth.

We need someone in there willing to make waves and beholden to the people and not politicians.

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Basic warfighting "rules."  

Fire without maneuver is pointless, and maneuver without fire is suicide.

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This is not correct.

Please educate yourself before looking like a fool.

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The Democrats just did us a favor.

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Gaetz is still a traitor to the party and to the country.  The dems win again because a POS RINO has a stick up his ass.

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Screw party loyalty.  

Incremental loses aren't that much better than all out defeats.

The GOP has been inept and all too happy to settle for being dragged to the left one step at a time.  The Republican leadership offer NO vision for the future, no clear direction other than advocating for the "status quo" that is really just a slow march into Marxism.   People have had enough of the bullshit.  

We gave the Republicans power in 2010 and they pissed it away by not doing anything substantive about Obamacare (aka "The Affordable Care Act") even though they swore they would.  They had Congress, the Presidency, and the majority on the Supreme Court in 2017 and yet they did nothing to stop these damn omnibus bills that are intentionally pushed to avoid any real scrutiny of government spending and the government's ever increasing deficit.  Enough is enough, the candy store needs to be closed.   They have offered NO border security, obviously, and they haven't brought about any reforms to the "insider trading" and unethical conflict of interest that exist in the Congress.  

Hell, McCarthy didn't even make Nancy Pelosi give up her Speaker's office even though she's no longer Speaker as though his intent is that she'll be Speaker again as soon as he can arrange it.  It comes across as nothing more than controlled opposition and frankly the rank file Republican voter is getting sick of it.

I'd rather stand with 300 Spartans at the Hot Gates of Thermopylae than have a thousand cowards in my ranks.   Any short term bad publicity the left leaning media can crank out over this will be nothing in the long run anyways since the average American isn't paying close attention to what's going on in the Congress anyways.  

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Matt Gaetz might not be a trader but he is a buffoon. He just did them Dems a favor for the next elections.

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Matt Gaetz might not be a trader but he is a buffoon. He just did them Dems a favor for the next elections.