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Quoted: Yep. McConnell, Romney, Kinshaw, Crenshaw and that twat Kinzinger and all the R’s that voted to impeach, made me a registered Independent. I’ll never vote for a Liberal, but don’t assume I’ll vote for some RINO. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: No candidate is entitled to my vote just because the have (R) next to their name. Yep. McConnell, Romney, Kinshaw, Crenshaw and that twat Kinzinger and all the R’s that voted to impeach, made me a registered Independent. I’ll never vote for a Liberal, but don’t assume I’ll vote for some RINO. A proven disloyal RINO backstabber should get no vote from anyone. |
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Quoted: LOL! No you don't. Unless you can remember the 1920s. (How old are you?). That's the last time that the GOP had 6+ years of a trifecta. (W had 4) (Trump had 2) (Eisenhower had 2). You are also lying. The 94 federal assault weapons ban wasn't reinstated in 2004 SOLELY because of GOP control. Alito, Roberts, Gorsuch, Barrett and Kavanaugh currently sit on the Supreme Court and thus Heller, McDonald and Bruen are a direct result of a GOP Senate and Presidency. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I’m old. I’m jaded. I remember 6 straight years of Republican house, senate, and presidency, and nothing getting rolled back. No lost ground regained. LOL! No you don't. Unless you can remember the 1920s. (How old are you?). That's the last time that the GOP had 6+ years of a trifecta. (W had 4) (Trump had 2) (Eisenhower had 2). You are also lying. The 94 federal assault weapons ban wasn't reinstated in 2004 SOLELY because of GOP control. Alito, Roberts, Gorsuch, Barrett and Kavanaugh currently sit on the Supreme Court and thus Heller, McDonald and Bruen are a direct result of a GOP Senate and Presidency. You’re kind of right, so I won’t argue it. Bush started with full control in ‘01 because Cheney had the tie-breaker in the 50/50 Senate until Jeffords switched to independent in June and caucused with the Ds. Then Wellstone (d) died in MN and Talent of MO filled remainder of the term of Mel Carnahan and Rs were in charge again. So, the Rs had most of that 6-year period. Sunsetting the AWB was great. But there was no affirmative move by anybody to roll anything back. Everyone, including Bush played defense and simply rode it out. But, credit where it’s due. If the Congress would have given Bush a renewal, that fuckhead would have signed it. They didn’t. As for the justices, I fully approve of that result. That’s one of the primary reasons, as I stated, that I still vote for shitty Rs in most circumstances. When the GOP tells me to fuck off and that my senate candidate is carpet-fucking-bagging Scott Brown because they decreed that I have no say in the matter, they can fuck right off. Where’s your line? Do you have one? Is there any candidate the GOP would shove up your ass to which you would say “no, I won’t do that.”? |
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Quoted: No candidate is entitled to my vote just because the have (R) next to their name. View Quote If you want a good candidate, you need to work hard during the primaries. Now you probably have the option of picking the least shitty option. Or stay home and cede the shittiest option a win. |
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15k votes in Georgia could’ve stopped the inflation we are suffering.
Likewise could stop a Biden court nominee. You stupid stupid people. |
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So vote for Mittons or Murkowski or Collins?
Then have Dems say Reps back their ideas? |
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Quoted: I must have missed where they put an end to Illegal Immigration, repealed gun control, balanced the budget, created term limits, repealed Obama Care. Can you list one accomplishment they made? View Quote They stopped what’s happening now. Trump nearly stopped illegal crossings Achieved real wage growth for the first time in 3 decades. Disproportionately favoring minorities. Cut regulations by the thousands Slowed the deterioration of our schools Steady economic growth with near zero inflation. Achieved energy independence Stood with Poland and Hungary against EU First peace accords between Israel and multiple Arab countries Cut Iran off at the knees stabilized Afghanistan Warned Germany they were going to be at Putins mercy if they emasculate their own energy industry. You stay home and don’t vote for a less than perfect repub , you send a dem to Washington to support Schumer and pelosi. We all wind up getting what YOU deserve. |
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Quoted: Doyou think the economy was worse under Trump? Really? View Quote Trump had short term domestic success with our economy. But those successes were driven by actions which were always going to have long-term, negative, and unavoidable consequences. We are seeing those consequences today. His economy was fueled in part by slashing the corporate tax rate. This is awesome, except for the fact that there was no corresponding cut in federal spending; instead, we got record federal debt. When you put everything on a credit card that you can't pay back, it may look awesome for a little while, but it isn't going to end up turning out well. Place the blame where you want, and congress sure owns a bunch of it. But the fact remains. Interest rate suppression (remember when he was urging the Fed for negative interest rates? ) was the second action which fueled our economic growth. Cheap money is awesome. Until it results in once-in-a-generation inflation, which we are seeing today. Biden's war on energy has made inflation objectively worse, but to pretend that the die wasn't cast during Trump's administration (and Obama's administration) for the shit we are dealing with today, is naive. And to take it one step further, I am actually thankful that the Fed is doing the needful. I'd rather take the pain today, then more pain tomorrow. And I am confident that if Trump were still in charge, he would be doing everything within his power to kick this economic can even further down the road. |
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This is why we lose -- elections are not about you and your feels, nor is it about only voting for someone IF they pass your Personal Purity Test, so you can "feel good" about yourself.
Again, for clarity -- It's not about you, princess. You are deciding which of the two candidates would be better for the COUNTRY, not for your conscience. Elections are always about the lesser of two evils, because the mere act of even having a Govt, that in and of itself is the lesser of two evils. That is the cold hard reality, like it or not. Don't be a petulant child and pretend not to understand that by sitting home on your thumb on election day. |
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Quoted: I wonder if there will be internet access in the re-education camps so you can post more bullshit? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: OP in a few years: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/177643/86bb5cd557dd85070c52984eb1fd406870b9a70f-2567702.JPG I wonder if there will be internet access in the re-education camps so you can post more bullshit? Look at what you would be voting for in the 50s vs now. The fact that you assume people will be sent to re-education camps just reveals that your mindset is of there being a political solution to our current situation. There isn't. |
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Quoted: This election is about control of the Senate. How can you not understand that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Republicans should stop being worthless, spineless fucks. If they tried that, they might get people To vote for them enthusiastically instead of reluctantly. This election is about control of the Senate. How can you not understand that? Most do not understand that, all its about to them is the individual candidate. They'd rather have Schumer as majority leader setting the agenda I guess. |
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Quoted: We “controlled” the senate with people like McCain. How did that work out for us? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Republicans should stop being worthless, spineless fucks. If they tried that, they might get people To vote for them enthusiastically instead of reluctantly. This election is about control of the Senate. How can you not understand that? We “controlled” the senate with people like McCain. How did that work out for us? It got us the majority on the Supreme court which gave us Bruen victory. Among others. Control of the chamber is a big deal. It also prevents bad bills like an AWB from being able to get a vote. |
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Quoted: I must have missed where they put an end to Illegal Immigration, repealed gun control, balanced the budget, created term limits, repealed Obama Care. Can you list one accomplishment they made? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It should be obvious that it was better than having Democrat control. I must have missed where they put an end to Illegal Immigration, repealed gun control, balanced the budget, created term limits, repealed Obama Care. Can you list one accomplishment they made? They aren't very good at doing anything good. Thankfully they are a lot better at stopping democrats from doing bad. McConnell did prevent Obama from passing gun control after Sandy Hook. He also prevented him from nominating Garland to the supreme court. Remember also when they had everything under Trump they did not have a filibuster proof majority so passing all the items you list would likely have not been possible. |
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Quoted: And they'd pass the Hearing Protection Act and repeal gun laws too, right? Try pulling the other leg for a while. I don't want to be stuck walking in circles. View Quote The alternative is for Democrats to advance gun control. You sound like a kid that’s angry because they can’t get their way. |
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Quoted: So you are ok with Democrats in control that will actively advance gun control. That is your alternative. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Please let me know when you see the Republicans actively trying to repeal gun control. Oh, wait... They only bring that up when they're back in the minority. So you are ok with Democrats in control that will actively advance gun control. That is your alternative. At this point, yes. Republicans have proven they don't plan to do anything to regain our rights. Ever. Might as well fast track it straight to the Supreme Court, or go ahead and get the party started. The longer we wait and rely on the Republicans, the more rights the Republicans will "compromise" away for us on our behalf. Sometimes things are damaged beyond repair, and the only way to fix it is to tear it down and start over. |
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Quoted: Remember also when they had everything under Trump they did not have a filibuster proof majority so passing all the items you list would likely have not been possible. View Quote You're absolutely right about one thing. Passing the items we want and need is not possible even when Republicans are in power... Because they never even make the attempt. |
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Quoted: At this point, yes. Republicans have proven they don't plan to do anything to regain our rights. Ever. Might as well fast track it straight to the Supreme Court, or go ahead and get the party started. The longer we wait and rely on the Republicans, the more rights the Republicans will "compromise" for us on our behalf. Sometimes things are damaged beyond repair, and the only way to fix it is to tear it down and start over. View Quote The Supreme Court is saving gun rights because Republicans were in control. Are you happy with Brown Jackson? Expect more of her ilk. |
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Quoted: The Supreme Court is saving gun rights because Republicans were in control. View Quote Over the last 20 years, what bills have the Republicans put forth to try to regain our rights? Over the last 20 years, how many rights have we lost at the hands of the Republicans? Why should we be content with the Republicans sitting on their laurels and expecting the Supreme Court to fix all of their mistakes? Why are you content with Republicans that refuse to do their jobs? |
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Quoted: Over the last 20 years, what bills have the Republicans put forth to try to regain our rights? Over the last 20 years, how many rights have we lost at the hands of the Republicans? Why should we be content with the Republicans sitting on their laurels and expecting the Supreme Court to fix all of their mistakes? Why are you content with Republicans that refuse to do their jobs? View Quote The alternative is Democrats advancing socialism and gun control. Why can’t you comprehend this? |
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Quoted: The alternative is Democrats advancing socialism and gun control. Why can’t you comprehend this? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Over the last 20 years, what bills have the Republicans put forth to try to regain our rights? Over the last 20 years, how many rights have we lost at the hands of the Republicans? Why should we be content with the Republicans sitting on their laurels and expecting the Supreme Court to fix all of their mistakes? Why are you content with Republicans that refuse to do their jobs? The alternative is Democrats advancing socialism and gun control. Why can’t you comprehend this? For me its the destination is the same, voting R just slows it down a bit. |
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Quoted: No candidate is entitled to my vote just because the have (R) next to their name. View Quote Well, that entitles you to higher taxes, more gun regulation, aborting your 10 year old daughter, exploding batteries in your EV, changing your race to racist, removing your house doors for illegal aliens... Vote your with your wallet and conscious...both are getting drained. ROCK6 |
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Quoted: The alternative is Democrats advancing socialism and gun control. Why can’t you comprehend this? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Over the last 20 years, what bills have the Republicans put forth to try to regain our rights? Over the last 20 years, how many rights have we lost at the hands of the Republicans? Why should we be content with the Republicans sitting on their laurels and expecting the Supreme Court to fix all of their mistakes? Why are you content with Republicans that refuse to do their jobs? The alternative is Democrats advancing socialism and gun control. Why can’t you comprehend this? Please don't ignore my questions. Over the last 20 years, how many bills have the Republicans put forth to try to regain our rights? What have they accomplished over the last two decades? Over that same period of time, how many rights have we lost while the Republicans were in control? Let's also take a look at who the Republicans tried to force on us in the 2008 & 2012 presidential elections. Do you feel that McCain and Romney were the best candidates that the Republican party had to offer, and that they truly represented the will of their constituents? Remember when the Republican party backed Murkowski even after she lost the primary in 2010? Remember how fervently the Republican party opposed Trump during the 2016 primary? With friends like the Republican party, who needs enemies? |
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Quoted: Please don't ignore my questions. Over the last 20 years, how many bills have the Republicans put forth to try to regain our rights? What have they accomplished over the last two decades? Over that same period of time, how many rights have we lost while the Republicans were in control? Let's also take a look at who the Republicans tried to force on us in the 2008 & 2012 presidential elections. Do you feel that McCain and Romney were the best candidates that the Republican party had to offer, and that they truly represented the will of their constituents? Remember when the Republican party backed Murkowski even after she lost the primary in 2010? Remember how fervently the Republican party opposed Trump during the 2016 primary? With friends like the Republican party, who needs enemies? View Quote I don’t want more socialism or gun control. Your questions are answered. Why do you want more socialism? |
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Quoted: I don’t want more socialism or gun control. Your questions are answered. Why do you want more socialism? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Please don't ignore my questions. Over the last 20 years, how many bills have the Republicans put forth to try to regain our rights? What have they accomplished over the last two decades? Over that same period of time, how many rights have we lost while the Republicans were in control? Let's also take a look at who the Republicans tried to force on us in the 2008 & 2012 presidential elections. Do you feel that McCain and Romney were the best candidates that the Republican party had to offer, and that they truly represented the will of their constituents? Remember when the Republican party backed Murkowski even after she lost the primary in 2010? Remember how fervently the Republican party opposed Trump during the 2016 primary? With friends like the Republican party, who needs enemies? I don’t want more socialism or gun control. Your questions are answered. Why do you want more socialism? If you don't want more socialism or gun control, why do you support the incumbent Republicans? |
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With Biden as President, the advancement of socialism and gun control can be stopped dead in its track if the House and Senate are in Republican control. Unless you actually want more socialism and gun control………
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Quoted: With Biden as President, the advancement of socialism and gun control can be stopped dead in its track if the House and Senate are in Republican control. Unless you actually want more socialism and gun control……… View Quote Correct. Kinda puts this bullshit into glaring perspective, doesn’t it? |
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Quoted: This election is about control of the Senate. How can you not understand that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Republicans should stop being worthless, spineless fucks. If they tried that, they might get people To vote for them enthusiastically instead of reluctantly. This election is about control of the Senate. How can you not understand that? Maybe he remembers the last time those same senators had control and did absolutely nothing. |
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Quoted: So you are OK having a leftist scum being elected? Because that is the alternative. View Quote The whole plethora of excuses to not vote, or vote 3rd party, is the only form of pushback available to them unfortunately. But yeah when faced with the logical outcome, these same people stick their fingers in their ears like liberals and go "LALALALALALALA!!!!" |
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Quoted: Over the last 20 years, what bills have the Republicans put forth to try to regain our rights? Over the last 20 years, how many rights have we lost at the hands of the Republicans? Why should we be content with the Republicans sitting on their laurels and expecting the Supreme Court to fix all of their mistakes? Why are you content with Republicans that refuse to do their jobs? View Quote That is why it is important to be involved early in the Primary and most importantly vote in the Primary, so you can have a good team. Once November rolls around you need to support your team, even if you end up fielding a shitty one. |
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Quoted: No candidate is entitled to my vote just because the have (R) next to their name. View Quote I can't wait to vote AWB Brian Fitzpatrick (R) out this election. I was going to vote (L) but I might vote for the (D) to help insure we remove the traitor and then replace the (D) with a better (R) in the next election. |
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Quoted: A "Trump Backed Candidate" who can "win" a Republican primary but loses the General Election is NOT a winner for Conservatives. You have to Win the General Election to take office. Only those elected "Into Office" get to make the laws & determine policy we all have to live by. Most "Trump Backed Candidates" seem to be defined mostly by absolute & unwavering loyalty to the Person of Donald Trump, not to actual Republican Conservative Principles & Policies that can Win in a General Election. Bigger_Hammer View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Seems like most around GD are complaining about Trump backed candidates that won their primaries over the establishment GOP candidates. A "Trump Backed Candidate" who can "win" a Republican primary but loses the General Election is NOT a winner for Conservatives. You have to Win the General Election to take office. Only those elected "Into Office" get to make the laws & determine policy we all have to live by. Most "Trump Backed Candidates" seem to be defined mostly by absolute & unwavering loyalty to the Person of Donald Trump, not to actual Republican Conservative Principles & Policies that can Win in a General Election. Bigger_Hammer You're all over the place now, thought we were talking about the general election in 3 weeks not the primaries that are long past... So what you're saying is trump fluffers beat back the GOP candidates in the primaries where you're supposed to hash all of this out and vote your conscious and apply your "purity tests", but the N_T crowd is NOW crying about the same thing you just accused the trump fluffers of: "Trump Fluffers are the ones saying they won't vote for Republicans that they feel somehow "fail their purity test" which essentially makes their NOT voting a vote FOR the Democrat Party."? Except N_T's are doing it in the general election to enable the commie party to remain in control of committees and agendas and oversight. Irony? Because they don't pass the N_T's "purity tests"? Again, most in GD saying they won't vote are saying they won't vote for Trump backed candidates in the general, the EXACT opposite of what you posted above. |
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Quoted: Perfect example of divide and conquer. Once primary season is over, we unite or die. Those who refuse are merely useful idiots for the left. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I hope you damn Never-Trumpers with your self-righteous Purity-Of-Essence mindset are happy, because you are complicit in this shit show we're living through. I'll bet there are boatloads of DU lurkers browsing through this thread and laughing their Commie asses off thanks to you and your ilk. I hope you damn TrumpFluffers with your self-righteous Purity-Of-Essence mindset are happy, because you are complicit in this shit show we're living through. I'll bet there are boatloads of DU lurkers browsing through this thread and laughing their Commie asses off thanks to you and your ilk. Trump Fluffers are the ones saying they won't vote for Republicans that they feel somehow "fail their purity test" which essentially makes their NOT voting a vote FOR the Democrat Party. Bigger_Hammer Perfect example of divide and conquer. Once primary season is over, we unite or die. Those who refuse are merely useful idiots for the left. Except reality is the exact opposite of what he posted. The N_Ts of GD are saying they won't vote for Trump backed candidates in the general election that "fail their purity test". The Republicans can never unite after the primaries like the dims do. |
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Quoted: This. Primary is the time to "pick Your Team". Once that is over & the Game starts (election) - You back your team all the way through. Bigger_Hammer View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The primary is the time to pick your candidate. Once November rolls around if you are not voting for the candidate with an (R) you might as well be voting for Pelosi and Schumer themselves. Don't enable Commies. This. Primary is the time to "pick Your Team". Once that is over & the Game starts (election) - You back your team all the way through. Bigger_Hammer |
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Quoted: LOL! No you don't. Unless you can remember the 1920s. (How old are you?). That's the last time that the GOP had 6+ years of a trifecta. (W had 4) (Trump had 2) (Eisenhower had 2). You are also lying. The 94 federal assault weapons ban wasn't reinstated in 2004 SOLELY because of GOP control. Alito, Roberts, Gorsuch, Barrett and Kavanaugh currently sit on the Supreme Court and thus Heller, McDonald and Bruen are a direct result of a GOP Senate and Presidency. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm old. I'm jaded. I remember 6 straight years of Republican house, senate, and presidency, and nothing getting rolled back. No lost ground regained. LOL! No you don't. Unless you can remember the 1920s. (How old are you?). That's the last time that the GOP had 6+ years of a trifecta. (W had 4) (Trump had 2) (Eisenhower had 2). You are also lying. The 94 federal assault weapons ban wasn't reinstated in 2004 SOLELY because of GOP control. Alito, Roberts, Gorsuch, Barrett and Kavanaugh currently sit on the Supreme Court and thus Heller, McDonald and Bruen are a direct result of a GOP Senate and Presidency. Shhhhhhh! Let them get all their feelz out. |
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Quoted: I can't wait to vote AWB Brian Fitzpatrick (R) out this election. I was going to vote (L) but I might vote for the (D) to help insure we remove the traitor and then replace the (D) with a better (R) in the next election. View Quote It would be more beneficial for the Republican party (the anti-socialists) if you voted for him this election and primary him in the next election. You understand that? Don't be short sighted. |
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Every R got my vote. Not necessarily because they deserve it, but because they aren't D, and a vote for R keeps a vote away from a D.
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Quoted: Then vote third party, and make third parties matter again. But vote, so that the numbers matter. Even if it's not for an R, just so long as it's not for a D. Make the R's realize that they're missing votes, and maybe they will GAF again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: No candidate is entitled to my vote just because the have (R) next to their name. But vote, so that the numbers matter. Even if it's not for an R, just so long as it's not for a D. Make the R's realize that they're missing votes, and maybe they will GAF again. This - if you can’t hold your nose for a Republican, then at least vote third-party, to show people that it matters. Otherwise your opinions are meaningless, since you can’t be bothered to do even the simplest thing. |
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Quoted: This - if you can’t hold your nose for a Republican, then at least vote third-party, to show people that it matters. Otherwise your opinions are meaningless, since you can’t be bothered to do even the simplest thing. View Quote I guess you can't figure out that you are supporting the Republican party on a nationwide basis. A vote for anyone else hurt conservative causes! |
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Quoted: This is why we lose -- elections are not about you and your feels, nor is it about only voting for someone IF they pass your Personal Purity Test, so you can "feel good" about yourself. Again, for clarity -- It's not about you, princess. You are deciding which of the two candidates would be better for the COUNTRY, not for your conscience. Elections are always about the lesser of two evils, because the mere act of even having a Govt, that in and of itself is the lesser of two evils. That is the cold hard reality, like it or not. Don't be a petulant child and pretend not to understand that by sitting home on your thumb on election day. View Quote |
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Quoted: At this point, yes. Republicans have proven they don't plan to do anything to regain our rights. Ever. Might as well fast track it straight to the Supreme Court, or go ahead and get the party started. The longer we wait and rely on the Republicans, the more rights the Republicans will "compromise" away for us on our behalf. Sometimes things are damaged beyond repair, and the only way to fix it is to tear it down and start over. View Quote Makes perfect sense. Let’s stay home so democrats get elected.. then they can stack the SC with liberal justices. “Let’s get this party started” is masturbatory fantasy. |
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Quoted: And they'd pass the Hearing Protection Act and repeal gun laws too, right? Try pulling the other leg for a while. I don't want to be stuck walking in circles. View Quote He’s right. There would be no Jan 6 probe. You have to be an idiot to think otherwise. The HPA isn’t going to pass without 60 Senators. The same reason the Dems couldn’t pass a new AWB. |
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The time for change is the primaries but ain't no one got time to worry about that.
You think i wanted to vote for Susan Collins? Fuck no still have a bad taste in my mouth but she was better than Sarah libtard Gideon from new York. It's not about what choices you should have. It's the ones you do have. I don't like it either but a rino that votes with you 75%of the time is better than a libtard voting against you 100% of the time. |
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Quoted: The time for change is the primaries but ain't no one got time to worry about that. You think i wanted to vote for Susan Collins? Fuck no still have a bad taste in my mouth but she was better than Sarah libtard Gideon from new York. It's not about what choices you should have. It's the ones you do have. I don't like it either but a rino that votes with you 75%of the time is better than a libtard voting against you 100% of the time. View Quote You should add that some of the time, not all, these RINO moderates, turn out to be more than just reliable votes. They also, sometimes, become huge egotistical blowhards that attack other Republicans for being too aggressive or too controversial and put up "no" votes on critical government roll backs out of spite for their constiuents. In those cases, it really begs to question who they're allegiance is with, the country, the party or themselves, and it is a question whether a vote for them actually improves our situation or worsens it. Because while we get reliable votes on certain things, they royally screw us on other things. |
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Quoted: So you are good with slowly removing your liberties and rights, vs just getting it over with? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Because I don’t want Democrats to be in office. This is a binary choice. Why do I feel like on debating an 8 yer old kid? So you are good with slowly removing your liberties and rights, vs just getting it over with? “Getting it over with” LoL - like people who can’t be bothered to even vote are going to actually show up for the party. I doubt. And just like justice delayed is justice denied, loss of freedom delayed is… still freedom… |
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