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Posted: 2/5/2019 4:23:30 PM EDT
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what is the most conservative Christian Denomination now? Methodists are all about gays and open borders now. Thousands quit Lutheran church in Finland after its Archbishop came out in favour of same-sex marriage 
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Posted: 2/5/2019 4:32:29 PM EDT
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Typical Protestants. Give them enough time and there won't be any churches left.. Everyone will have split off and started their own church. Church of Mike and Church of Gwen and Church of...... ETA: And many left in disappointment because what Jesus said was too difficult to accept. (Real Presence) 
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Posted: 2/5/2019 4:33:49 PM EDT
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Meanwhile in realityville:
THE FIRST COMMANDMENT that God gave to Adam and Eve pertained to their potential for parenthood as husband and wife. We declare that God’s commandment for His children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force. We further declare that God has commanded that the sacred powers of procreation are to be employed only between man and woman, lawfully wedded as husband and wife.
WE DECLARE the means by which mortal life is created to be divinely appointed. We affirm the sanctity of life and of its importance in God’s eternal plan. HUSBAND AND WIFE have a solemn responsibility to love and care for each other and for their children. “Children are an heritage of the Lord” (Psalm 127:3). Parents have a sacred duty to rear their children in love and righteousness, to provide for their physical and spiritual needs, and to teach them to love and serve one another, observe the commandments of God, and be law-abiding citizens wherever they live. Husbands and wives—mothers and fathers—will be held accountable before God for the discharge of these obligations. THE FAMILY is ordained of God. Marriage between man and woman is essential to His eternal plan. Children are entitled to birth within the bonds of matrimony, and to be reared by a father and a mother who honor marital vows with complete fidelity. Happiness in family life is most likely to be achieved when founded upon the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ. Successful marriages and families are established and maintained on principles of faith, prayer, repentance, forgiveness, respect, love, compassion, work, and wholesome recreational activities. By divine design, fathers are to preside over their families in love and righteousness and are responsible to provide the necessities of life and protection for their families. Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children. In these sacred responsibilities, fathers and mothers are obligated to help one another as equal partners. Disability, death, or other circumstances may necessitate individual adaptation. Extended families should lend support when needed. Communism: A Statement of the Position of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 4:37:45 PM EDT
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In his 1961 General Conference talk, Ezra Taft Benson explained that “We must ever keep in mind that collectivized socialism is part of the communist strategy. Communism is fundamentally socialism. We will never win our fight against communism by making concessions to socialism. Communism and socialism, closely related, must be defeated on principle.”
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Posted: 2/5/2019 4:40:12 PM EDT
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Meanwhile in realityville: https://edge.ldscdn.org/mobile/images/1916604/328a0952097845aa9383f03ca13e5025/460x598.jpg The position of this Church on the subject of Communism has never changed. We consider it the greatest satanical threat to peace, prosperity, and the spread of God’s work among men that exists on the face of the earth. Communism: A Statement of the Position of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 4:44:40 PM EDT
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I thought we were talking about Christian Churches in this thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meanwhile in realityville: https://edge.ldscdn.org/mobile/images/1916604/328a0952097845aa9383f03ca13e5025/460x598.jpg The position of this Church on the subject of Communism has never changed. We consider it the greatest satanical threat to peace, prosperity, and the spread of God’s work among men that exists on the face of the earth. Communism: A Statement of the Position of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Only one seems to qualify and stand the test of time. Only one has The Name of Christ in its name. Only one adheres to the commandments of God. The rest sway and flow with the influence and "wisdom" of men. Only one is rejected by the world and the religions of men. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 4:47:57 PM EDT
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In his 1961 General Conference talk, Ezra Taft Benson explained that "We must ever keep in mind that collectivized socialism is part of the communist strategy. Communism is fundamentally socialism. We will never win our fight against communism by making concessions to socialism. Communism and socialism, closely related, must be defeated on principle." https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-pride-is-concerned-with-who-is-right-humility-is-concerned-with-what-is-right-ezra-taft-benson-37-90-67.jpg -Ezra Taft Benson, Conference Report, 1967 |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 4:59:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are. Only one seems to qualify and stand the test of time. Only one has The Name of Christ in its name. Only one adheres to the commandments of God. The rest sway and flow with the influence and "wisdom" of men. Only one is rejected by the world and the religions of men. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 5:03:32 PM EDT
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Typical Protestants. Give them enough time and there won't be any churches left.. Everyone will have split off and started their own church. Church of Mike and Church of Gwen and Church of...... ETA: And many left in disappointment because what Jesus said was too difficult to accept. (Real Presence) Pretend your Church is Christlike, go ahead. There is nothing Christlike about it. Oh and I am not a Christian BTW. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 5:04:54 PM EDT
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What's that one fake church that LARPs as Christian - Episcopalian? |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 5:22:51 PM EDT
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We are. Only one seems to qualify and stand the test of time. Only one has The Name of Christ in its name. Only one adheres to the commandments of God. The rest sway and flow with the influence and "wisdom" of men. Only one is rejected by the world and the religions of men. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meanwhile in realityville: https://edge.ldscdn.org/mobile/images/1916604/328a0952097845aa9383f03ca13e5025/460x598.jpg The position of this Church on the subject of Communism has never changed. We consider it the greatest satanical threat to peace, prosperity, and the spread of God’s work among men that exists on the face of the earth. Communism: A Statement of the Position of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Only one seems to qualify and stand the test of time. Only one has The Name of Christ in its name. Only one adheres to the commandments of God. The rest sway and flow with the influence and "wisdom" of men. Only one is rejected by the world and the religions of men. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 6:24:33 PM EDT
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It's what happened to the Anglicans. You hold a vote, because voting on the issue shows you care about people's opinions. They lose. Then they have another vote. and another. And another. Until they win. Then you're never allowed to vote on the issue again. Father Dwight Longenecker talks about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a friend who will be covering the vote (writes for one of the Methodist mags) "live". She was in Portland at the last conference and the LBGT folks were really militant then. They are not taking NO for an answer and want to change a church rather than go to a "church" that aligns with them. This is going to be a shit show of the highest order. You hold a vote, because voting on the issue shows you care about people's opinions. They lose. Then they have another vote. and another. And another. Until they win. Then you're never allowed to vote on the issue again. Father Dwight Longenecker talks about it. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 6:33:07 PM EDT
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Meanwhile in realityville: https://edge.ldscdn.org/mobile/images/1916604/328a0952097845aa9383f03ca13e5025/460x598.jpg The position of this Church on the subject of Communism has never changed. We consider it the greatest satanical threat to peace, prosperity, and the spread of God’s work among men that exists on the face of the earth. Communism: A Statement of the Position of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 
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Posted: 2/5/2019 6:38:57 PM EDT
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Catholic church will be next. Current Pope is a fucking commie. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 6:40:10 PM EDT
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Quit the United Methodist Church when I was 13 years old, nearly 40 years ago. My mom used to get the READERS DIGEST and they used to have many articles about the Methodist Church supporting communist guerilla movements in Africa and Central and South America. I was being "confirmed" and told the Reverend that I never felt that I belonged to the church and how can they support godless communist? He told me that I didn't have to be there if I didn't want to, so I walked out and never returned to any religion. I figured out what a scam religion is- man's perversion of GODS words and works to suit their own end, when I was a teenager. Surprised it took so many people this long to figure out what a satanic church the United Methodist are. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 6:42:07 PM EDT
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I know of two churches local to me that split off over this. Sad part is that the UMC owns all land and buildings for all of the UMC churches, so the individual congregations that are dropping out of the association are having to buy the land and church buildings. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 6:43:46 PM EDT
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That congregation paid all the money to build, maintain and operate that church. The denomination left them by abandoning it's core beliefs, yet the local church had to pay them just to keep what they built. Often denominations will take title of properties to help defend the local church against slip and fall lawsuits. Lawyers are less inclined to go up against an international organization with lawyers on retainer than a local congregation. These setups seem great when the denomination is in line with the beliefs of the local church. As we see here though, leftists take over the national organization and it becomes a nightmare. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know of two churches local to me that split off over this. Sad part is that the UMC owns all land and buildings for all of the UMC churches, so the individual congregations that are dropping out of the association are having to buy the land and church buildings. Often denominations will take title of properties to help defend the local church against slip and fall lawsuits. Lawyers are less inclined to go up against an international organization with lawyers on retainer than a local congregation. These setups seem great when the denomination is in line with the beliefs of the local church. As we see here though, leftists take over the national organization and it becomes a nightmare. Also all 5 branches of the U.S. military. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 6:44:47 PM EDT
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Any church/denomination that advocates for Sin is lost and not part of the body of Christ. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 6:56:13 PM EDT
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I’m not rebuffing your sentiments all together, but the Catholic Church has been around a long time and is the single largest Christian denomination in the world. They haven’t wavered under social pressure in an official capacity regarding these sort of issues, despite the commie pope trying everything he can to shift the course. If nothing else they are consistent in a world dominated by flip flopping moral compasses. Unwed mother home scandal Nuns as sexual, other slaves |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 7:03:55 PM EDT
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At less than 200 years old, your cult hardly qualifies as standing the test of time and much of it's original teaching have demonstrably been proven incorrect. Sadly, it's more rooted in "ancient aliens" than the bible or any semblance to traditional Christian theology. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meanwhile in realityville: https://edge.ldscdn.org/mobile/images/1916604/328a0952097845aa9383f03ca13e5025/460x598.jpg The position of this Church on the subject of Communism has never changed. We consider it the greatest satanical threat to peace, prosperity, and the spread of God’s work among men that exists on the face of the earth. Communism: A Statement of the Position of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Only one seems to qualify and stand the test of time. Only one has The Name of Christ in its name. Only one adheres to the commandments of God. The rest sway and flow with the influence and "wisdom" of men. Only one is rejected by the world and the religions of men. If your opinion of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is that it is more rooted in "ancient aliens", I would suggest more individual study versus biased opinions from people with an axe to grind. The fruit tells the story well enough though. In relation to this trend in so-called "Christian" churches who adopt the teachings of Satan, work feverishly to please the wills of men, while destroying the family unit, the list of those who hold true to the teachings of Jesus Christ grows smaller with each social justice warrior perversion of The Faith. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 7:07:38 PM EDT
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Many "Protestant" denominations sought to re-create the Church of Rome, but in THEIR control, rather than address the issues that led to the Reformation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know of two churches local to me that split off over this. Sad part is that the UMC owns all land and buildings for all of the UMC churches, so the individual congregations that are dropping out of the association are having to buy the land and church buildings. The Lutheran Churches of the Scandinavian nations display that prominently. In England, they basically went Protestant in government control, while holding to the primary tenets of Roman Catholicism while not wanting to be subject to the political control of Rome anymore. Rome helped them with that choice when representatives of 2 different Popes showed up at the same time telling the monarch that no really, their Pope was the legitimate successor, not the other guy. 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 7:47:33 PM EDT
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Catholic church will be next. Current Pope is a fucking commie. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 7:54:16 PM EDT
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I wonder what would happen if a church in a lib area like San Francisco or New York City flew these flags?
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Posted: 2/5/2019 7:54:46 PM EDT
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In your zeal to berate me with your supposedly-superior knowledge of Christianity, you utterly and completely missed my point. But you be you, Hero. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I find it highly amusing that Christianity, a faith based upon "follow these rules or you are a sinner," has multiple sects splitting up because a militant wing is all "we don't want to be judgmental." That's not a slam on Christianity, just an observation that the "love everyone no matter what" has completely swallowed up the whole concept of "God has standards of behavior that you're expected to meet." You want supreme court justices that follow the Constition, don't you? That's what most Christians want, is for the church to follow the Bible. You see, the Bible has never changed, man has. That is the problem. Just like a court that has strayed from the Constitution, a church that has conformed to the world is a church that has outlived its usefulness. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 7:55:52 PM EDT
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The United Methodist church (and pretty much all other "united" denominations) have taken a leftist stance for quite some time now. They are all anit-gun, pro socialism, progressive organizations. Jesus would be turning over tables and trashing the places the way they've whored themselves out to the world. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 7:59:43 PM EDT
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what is the most conservative Christian Denomination now? Methodists are all about gays and open borders now. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 8:01:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Regardless of what happens in the cabal within the Catholic church, official doctrine has wavered little over centuries. Many protestant denominations change course every time a committee assembles |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 8:01:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Catholic Church will NEVER split. That's why there are no Eastern Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, or Greek Orthodox churches. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 8:05:55 PM EDT
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I'd say Southern Baptist is the most conservative. No beer/wine/dancing/buttsex allowed. King David was a man after God's own heart, and danced naked in the streets for joy before his Lord. Jesus' first public miracle was turning water into wine. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 8:06:45 PM EDT
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Ok - what's the most conservative Christian denomination that has TV, power tools, telephone, internet, and lets you operate motor vehicles? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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what is the most conservative Christian Denomination now? Methodists are all about gays and open borders now. There’s actually quite a few conservative denominations in the evangelical world. Most have been mentioned already. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 8:06:57 PM EDT
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The largest Methodist church in my community got rid of a well liked preacher last year. He was conservative, active in the community, an Ohio National Guard member (several deployments). He was replaced with a fat dyke with electric blue hair that preaches social justice in every sermon. She fired all the pre-school teachers and replaced them with her hand picked choices. This is our last year associated with them. I never liked the UMC anyways. Too bad they are pretty much our only choice around here. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 8:19:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are. Only one seems to qualify and stand the test of time. Only one has The Name of Christ in its name. Only one adheres to the commandments of God. The rest sway and flow with the influence and "wisdom" of men. Only one is rejected by the world and the religions of men. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 8:25:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not all mennonites do the 19th century thing. They all have new trucks/cars/tractors with huge houses and I keep patching my old junk up. Truck market is getting flooded by XTR F-150's which I had never heard of, I guess basically is Canadian FX4's that they brought down with them. Only thing is they can't have radios... so my 10yo POS Pioneer HU would be a no-go. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 8:33:01 PM EDT
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My wife's church is going this way. She's a lib so no problem for her. My daughter's pastor is going political. She's leaving hers. It's twice the distance, but I haven't regretted switching. It's still RC, but it just feels more comfortable there... and most importantly, our priest makes a point to avoid politics. As my mother always said... if you don't like one church or priest, there's likely another one in the area that will suit you better. and she was right. |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 9:26:07 PM EDT
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Attached Fileusmc_delaware: I’m not rebuffing your sentiments all together, but the Catholic Church has been around a long time and is the single largest Christian denomination in the world. They haven’t wavered under social pressure in an official capacity regarding these sort of issues, despite the commie pope trying everything he can to shift the course. If nothing else they are consistent in a world dominated by flip flopping moral compasses. JamesTheScot: The Catholic Church is just as full of cultural Catholics as Islam is full of cultural Muslims and Protestantism is full of cultural Christians. Take a poll and see how many of those claiming to be Catholic take birth control, approve of some abortion, are divorced, etc. Besides, it never was a membership size or numbers game. That type of analysis is what’s gotten us into this mess. Too much focus on membership numbers as judged by tithe amounts and asses in church pews rather than sincere belief.   
The support for the Democrat Party among Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and African Methodist Episcopaleanism is adequately explained by those denominations ethnic composition, and those ethnic groups identitarian reliance on the Democrat Party for benefits. I do not understand Orthodoxy's support for the Democrats, its constituent ethnic groups as a people are generally conservative and have recent family history with the dangerous failure that liberal policies are. I guess the gibs must be really lucrative. Rick-OShay: I dunno - they had a Borgia or two .... |
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Posted: 2/5/2019 9:59:26 PM EDT
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Nobody adheres to the commandments of God perfectly. Every single Christian has committed idolatry in their lives. My pastor says the only requirement to join our church is to confess that you’re a sinner (repenting) and put your faith in Christ alone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/5/2019 11:49:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "The Burns family ran a general store in a one store town and still managed to do badly. They were Methodist, a denomination my father always referred to as Baptists who could read." 
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Posted: 2/5/2019 11:55:11 PM EDT
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This has been a good thread and I enjoyed reading all the various perspectives. It would be great if we could avoid the denominational back and forths.
Otherwise someone will get this locked. Back on topic, there are many fine bible preaching evangelical churches out there for those looking for a conservative home. |
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Posted: 2/6/2019 1:10:29 AM EDT
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Nobody adheres to the commandments of God perfectly. Every single Christian has committed idolatry in their lives. My pastor says the only requirement to join our church is to confess that you're a sinner (repenting) and put your faith in Christ alone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/6/2019 1:31:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2019 1:34:38 AM EDT
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Chill or there will be a lock.
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Posted: 2/6/2019 1:45:54 AM EDT
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I'd say Southern Baptist is the most conservative. No beer/wine/dancing/buttsex allowed. … I just roll my eyes at the usual stereotyping here by members that have no experience inside any building where a church gathers. Same at comments about Amish or Old Order Mennonites and ignorance of the spectrum those groups cross, or their real philosophy toward technology. |
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Posted: 2/6/2019 2:14:40 AM EDT
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lol, I know ya'll love to hate on atheists but I'll be damned if you don't love to hate on eachother more.
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Posted: 2/6/2019 2:27:21 AM EDT
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Jesus condemned the leading sects of his time, the Pharisees and Sadducees.
Don’t thing he’d be approving of today’s sectarianism. |
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Posted: 2/6/2019 7:35:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Catholic Church will NEVER split. That's why there are no Eastern Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, or Greek Orthodox churches. |
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Posted: 2/6/2019 8:51:19 AM EDT
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Jesus condemned the leading sects of his time, the Pharisees and Sadducees. Don't thing he'd be approving of today's sectarianism.
On a serious note, being in Christ isn't about religious institutions, laws, or authorities, and the Pharisees were. What Christ essentially taught was the full weight of the Mosaic Law that the Pharisees thought they kept, but really didn't - no one has. |
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Posted: 2/6/2019 9:22:35 AM EDT
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Most methodists I know are democrats and do not believe in the teachings of Christ. Their churches are more of a social Justice Warrior type of club.
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Posted: 2/6/2019 9:26:10 AM EDT
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Lutheran Church of Finland went full LGBTQ retard and purged their ranks as a result. Thousands quit Lutheran church in Finland after its Archbishop came out in favour of same-sex marriage https://im.mtv.fi/image/5951588/landscape16_9/1024/576/8c217ae51381a5960c792fb8fdf9606d/Jq/piispat.jpg |
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Posted: 2/6/2019 9:29:02 AM EDT
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Quit the United Methodist Church when I was 13 years old, nearly 40 years ago. My mom used to get the READERS DIGEST and they used to have many articles about the Methodist Church supporting communist guerilla movements in Africa and Central and South America. I was being "confirmed" and told the Reverend that I never felt that I belonged to the church and how can they support godless communist? He told me that I didn't have to be there if I didn't want to, so I walked out and never returned to any religion. I figured out what a scam religion is- man's perversion of GODS words and works to suit their own end, when I was a teenager. Surprised it took so many people this long to figure out what a satanic church the United Methodist are. |
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Posted: 2/6/2019 9:35:47 AM EDT
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I hate to break this to you, but the Baptist Faith and Mission statement says nothing about alcohol or dancing. King David was a man after God's own heart, and danced naked in the streets for joy before his Lord. Jesus' first public miracle was turning water into wine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd say Southern Baptist is the most conservative. No beer/wine/dancing/buttsex allowed. King David was a man after God's own heart, and danced naked in the streets for joy before his Lord. Jesus' first public miracle was turning water into wine. |
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