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Posted: 10/27/2016 5:45:17 PM EDT
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Milwaukee fuel are the best 12v tools available. I love their fuel hammer drill and two speed impact driver. Ended up selling my DeWalt 20v XR (DCD790) because I liked the Milwaukee so much. Still use DeWalt 20v for my other cordless tools though.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:21:06 PM EDT
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Troll thread.
Who the fuck rates a tool based on how long the company puts you on hold after you go full Michael J Fox. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:22:59 PM EDT
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Troll thread. Who the fuck rates a tool based on how long the company puts you on hold after you go full Michael J Fox. Is this the same site where a guy cut a gun in half and threw it down his driveway? 
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:34:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OMG SO EDGY If you have instructions on how to fix a broken lithium battery without blowing myself up I'll listen. I could probably fix the crack, but then I would have an uncracked, nonworking battery Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe you can ask your husband to fix it. OMG SO EDGY If you have instructions on how to fix a broken lithium battery without blowing myself up I'll listen. I could probably fix the crack, but then I would have an uncracked, nonworking battery If a cell is broken, you can probably buy a replacement. If some cells are loose, they can be resoldered in. These batteries are usually groups of unprotected cells hooked up to some circuitry. Unless the fall broke something in the board itself, it's repairable. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:50:30 PM EDT
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I own most tools in the M12 line. They have served me well for years. I abuse my tools and have burned up one Hackzaw and one drill. They get used daily for work.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:58:04 PM EDT
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Does the M18 have a good variable speed (read that: fairly linear) mechanism. or does it go immediately from 0-300RPM and then up? The POS DCD940 DeWalt 18v I bought a few years ago to replace my old DW998 18v is supposed to be variable speed, but there's no range in the low end, and it has the crappiest chuck I've ever used.  My 18v fuel hammer drill is very controllable in that regard. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 7:04:15 PM EDT
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If you were as handy as you claim to be, you could fix that battery pack.  Srs, they're closed cells. Fucking tack em back into place. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 7:05:14 PM EDT
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Their batteries are utter dogshit. A former employer had racks of them on chargers when I did fabrication for them. Put a battery on the charger at 2PM, let it charge overnight, pick it up at 8AM and start using it in a drill and that sucker would be dead 20 minutes later. Then I'd dig my half-discharged DeWalt out of my truck where it had been sitting for a week and go to town. Idk what tools you were using, but my experience has been the exact opposite for about the last 16 years. I switched from deWalt to Milwaukee because the yellow tools were not durable and the batteries were shit. The new m18 and m12 stuff has been awesome, and the fuel stuff raised the bar yet again. I have m18 batteries that are 7 years old and work like new, and the m12 batteries have been great as well. I swap the battery in my m12 screwdriver out of habit, but I have yet to have it go dead in a single shift of use. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 7:05:31 PM EDT
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I had heard good things about Milwaukee Tools and wanted to slowly start trying them out so I bought a M12 fuel impact and drill set to use for little interior projects around my house. I was putting up some storage shelves in my mudroom and the impact driver fell about 2.5 feet onto the linoleum floor and cracked open the battery, making it useless. I've had my DeWalt tools fall from my rafters in my shop (when I was installing air lines) to concrete floor and be fine. Very disappointed in Milwaukee, I don't think they're all they are cracked up to be. They were nice tools while they worked but they have a serious durability issue, at least in the M12 line. I contacted them but they never responded. Lol 
You bought a M12 line product..... it's for DYI home improvements like your project. If you want profesional grade tools go to M18 line and pay the price hope you have the skill set to use them. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 7:06:11 PM EDT
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I have a few Milwaukee tools, all are corded and at least 20 years old, they are pretty good I think.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 7:12:05 PM EDT
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My M18 fuel driver has been incredible for the last 4 years. My father in law has owned his own construction company and has been a general contractor for over 30 years. He uses the M18 impact driver and loves it. We just hung all of my interior doors this past weekend and it ran flawlessly |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 7:13:53 PM EDT
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I believe they have a no questions asked warranty within the first year at least. Have you called their customer service yet?
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Posted: 10/27/2016 7:15:08 PM EDT
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I got a shit ton of makita stuff. Love it. The 5.0 battery's are unbeatable.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 9:01:10 PM EDT
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love my M12 tools, but I don't drop my shit and I don't have linoleum floors
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Posted: 10/30/2016 10:55:04 PM EDT
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My 18v fuel hammer drill is very controllable in that regard. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does the M18 have a good variable speed (read that: fairly linear) mechanism. or does it go immediately from 0-300RPM and then up? The POS DCD940 DeWalt 18v I bought a few years ago to replace my old DW998 18v is supposed to be variable speed, but there's no range in the low end, and it has the crappiest chuck I've ever used. My 18v fuel hammer drill is very controllable in that regard. Okay, thanks. I think I'll go give one a serious look. |
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Posted: 10/30/2016 11:38:02 PM EDT
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Some of the newer ones may be junk, but I have a Milwaukee sabre saw that I've used since 1967 and it is still being used today. I had to replace the power cord a few years ago. It is not a cheap plastic housed tool though, it has a cast aluminum housing. Would not trade it for a new one.
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Posted: 10/30/2016 11:41:04 PM EDT
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I have a Milwaukee 12 volt Cordless Drill that I purchased in December, 1998 and it is still going strong. I had to purchased new batteries about 8 years ago. That's pretty damn good in my book.
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Posted: 11/2/2016 11:57:07 AM EDT
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Sent the battery back to Milwaukee on Monday, will see what happens.
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Posted: 11/11/2016 2:01:55 PM EDT
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Small update
Still have not received a return email or phone call from their customer service. Sent the battery back awhile ago and it's been crickets. Their customer service sucks as wel |
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Posted: 11/11/2016 4:59:19 PM EDT
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I never heard back anything either. It just showed up in the mail a couple weeks later.
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Posted: 11/11/2016 5:01:23 PM EDT
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My Milwaukee metal-cutting chop saw is da Bomb.
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Posted: 11/11/2016 5:17:48 PM EDT
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I never heard back anything either. It just showed up in the mail a couple weeks later. If his "note enclosed" is anything like this thread I can't imagine why they wouldn't want to chat with him. 
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Posted: 11/11/2016 5:21:23 PM EDT
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My car sucks....I hit a wall and the bumper caved in....Toyotas suck.
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Posted: 11/11/2016 6:05:33 PM EDT
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You had one unsatisfactory exerience, and now all their tools are junk? That's quite the leap of logic.
I've owned many Dewalt and Milwaukee, and have been far more satisfied with Milwaukee. I doubt that I will ever own another Dewalt product. |
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Posted: 11/11/2016 6:10:46 PM EDT
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If his "note enclosed" is anything like this thread I can't imagine why they wouldn't want to chat with him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never heard back anything either. It just showed up in the mail a couple weeks later. If his "note enclosed" is anything like this thread I can't imagine why they wouldn't want to chat with him. Because they don't want to honor their warranty on their junk? 
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Posted: 11/11/2016 7:18:24 PM EDT
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Because they don't want to honor their warranty on their junk? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never heard back anything either. It just showed up in the mail a couple weeks later. If his "note enclosed" is anything like this thread I can't imagine why they wouldn't want to chat with him. Because they don't want to honor their warranty on their junk? No--because you are so daft you need this explained to you. You dropped a battery off of a ladder. That's not a warranty issue. The fact you don't want to take responsibility for YOUR SCREW-UP, and then want to publicly declare their fine products to be "junk" is silly beyond belief. The fact you are now whining because they haven't soothed your feelings by calling you is asinine. 
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Posted: 11/11/2016 7:23:14 PM EDT
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OP. I'm quite happy with my 20V Porter Cable tools. They were cheap. I beat them like a rented mule. They keep going.
Milwaukee has become a big box tool with trade-shop pricing to support their advertising budget. |
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Posted: 11/11/2016 7:35:28 PM EDT
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OP. I'm quite happy with my 20V Porter Cable tools. They were cheap. I beat them like a rented mule. They keep going. Milwaukee has become a big box tool with trade-shop pricing to support their advertising budget. You criticize "big box" tools, but are happy with your Porter Cable tools... made by Stanley Black & Decker? |
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Posted: 11/12/2016 10:02:21 AM EDT
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No--because you are so daft you need this explained to you. You dropped a battery off of a ladder. That's not a warranty issue. The fact you don't want to take responsibility for YOUR SCREW-UP, and then want to publicly declare their fine products to be "junk" is silly beyond belief. The fact you are now whining because they haven't soothed your feelings by calling you is asinine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never heard back anything either. It just showed up in the mail a couple weeks later. If his "note enclosed" is anything like this thread I can't imagine why they wouldn't want to chat with him. Because they don't want to honor their warranty on their junk? No--because you are so daft you need this explained to you. You dropped a battery off of a ladder. That's not a warranty issue. The fact you don't want to take responsibility for YOUR SCREW-UP, and then want to publicly declare their fine products to be "junk" is silly beyond belief. The fact you are now whining because they haven't soothed your feelings by calling you is asinine. See that's the thing. If they would just return my calls or emails and say "I'm sorry this is not a warranty issue, you're out of luck" I would be satisfied. Some people say they will cover it and some don't, but no word from them. |
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Posted: 11/12/2016 10:06:58 AM EDT
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See that's the thing. If they would just return my calls or emails and say "I'm sorry this is not a warranty issue, you're out of luck" I would be satisfied. Some people say they will cover it and some don't, but no word from them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never heard back anything either. It just showed up in the mail a couple weeks later. If his "note enclosed" is anything like this thread I can't imagine why they wouldn't want to chat with him. Because they don't want to honor their warranty on their junk? No--because you are so daft you need this explained to you. You dropped a battery off of a ladder. That's not a warranty issue. The fact you don't want to take responsibility for YOUR SCREW-UP, and then want to publicly declare their fine products to be "junk" is silly beyond belief. The fact you are now whining because they haven't soothed your feelings by calling you is asinine. See that's the thing. If they would just return my calls or emails and say "I'm sorry this is not a warranty issue, you're out of luck" I would be satisfied. Some people say they will cover it and some don't, but no word from them. I'm sure its been said already in this, but 13'ers gonna 13. |
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Posted: 11/12/2016 11:04:31 AM EDT
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rougeboss, maybe you should inquire about an impact resistant model?
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Posted: 11/15/2016 2:39:07 PM EDT
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Finally was able to communicate with a real person at Milwaukee. After several back and forths we discovered they had lost my battery I sent back. I provided them the tracking number used to send it back and it confirms it was delivered to them but it's gone.
Sigh. |
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Posted: 11/15/2016 9:32:34 PM EDT
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Sounds like you're getting a replacement by default.
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Posted: 11/15/2016 9:35:20 PM EDT
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I haven't used Milwaukee tools, but I will say it is not just the height of the fall, BUT WHERE in hits the ground on tool. What you saw might have been just a case of it hitting just right (or wrong) to split the case. This. How many times have you dropped your phone vs how many times has the screen broken on landing? |
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Posted: 11/15/2016 9:53:44 PM EDT
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I bought a Milwaukee Fuel 18V 1/2 impact a few months ago. After a few uses, i sold all my dewalt tools except for a vacuum, and replaced with M18 tools. I really like the variety of m18 LED lanterns that Milwaukee has.
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Posted: 11/15/2016 11:26:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: See that's the thing. If they would just return my calls or emails and say "I'm sorry this is not a warranty issue, you're out of luck" I would be satisfied. Some people say they will cover it and some don't, but no word from them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I never heard back anything either. It just showed up in the mail a couple weeks later. If his "note enclosed" is anything like this thread I can't imagine why they wouldn't want to chat with him. Because they don't want to honor their warranty on their junk? No--because you are so daft you need this explained to you. You dropped a battery off of a ladder. That's not a warranty issue. The fact you don't want to take responsibility for YOUR SCREW-UP, and then want to publicly declare their fine products to be "junk" is silly beyond belief. The fact you are now whining because they haven't soothed your feelings by calling you is asinine. See that's the thing. If they would just return my calls or emails and say "I'm sorry this is not a warranty issue, you're out of luck" I would be satisfied. Some people say they will cover it and some don't, but no word from them. So it took a couple of days to get there - then you think that they recognize just how important you are that they pushed the equipment that you broke past the entire line of equipment in for warranty work? It must be hard to live in a world where you are surrounded by imperfection. |
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Posted: 11/16/2016 12:36:52 AM EDT
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So it took a couple of days to get there - then you think that they recognize just how important you are that they pushed the equipment that you broke past the entire line of equipment in for warranty work? It must be hard to live in a world where you are surrounded by imperfection. You see, smartass, when you submit the info online to Milwaukee to generate the shipping label, they send you an email that says it will be inspected/returned in 5 working days or less. Try not being a smartass, you just make yourself look dumb. |
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Posted: 11/16/2016 10:31:57 AM EDT
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Finally was able to communicate with a real person at Milwaukee. After several back and forths we discovered they had lost my battery I sent back. I provided them the tracking number used to send it back and it confirms it was delivered to them but it's gone. Sigh. Are they sending you a new one since they list yours? |
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Posted: 11/16/2016 10:42:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm switching out all of my DeWalts to Milwaukee as needed. The batteries on my Dewalt 18V are horrendous. I get more life out of my 12v Milwaukee impact than I do out of my 18v Dewalt impact and the battery is over 2X as big. I worked at a mine where guys were given tool allowances every year. The break down on power/air tools was roughly: 75% Snap on 20% Milwaukee 3% Makita 2% Dewalt/Ryobi/Ridid/etc |
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Posted: 11/16/2016 10:49:25 AM EDT
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Funny story for you, last winter I was working on the roof of a school gymnasium, the chuck on my Dewalt drill started auto opening any time I ran the drill in reverse.
I have accasionally anger issues and it was 15 degrees out and I was cold, so I threw the drill as far as I could battery popped out when it hit the ground. Later picked it up and put the battery back in and it worked fine again. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/16/2016 10:53:32 AM EDT
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Funny story for you, last winter I was working on the roof of a school gymnasium, the chuck on my Dewalt drill started auto opening any time I ran the drill in reverse. I have accasionally anger issues and it was 15 degrees out and I was cold, so I threw the drill as far as I could battery popped out when it hit the ground. Later picked it up and put the battery back in and it worked fine again. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Don't doubt it. All my new tools will be yellow, I'll tell you that. |
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Posted: 11/16/2016 10:56:25 AM EDT
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Did you take it back to your supplier yet? I would bet they will fix it or replace it for you. I'm a homeowner/hobby farmer. I don't really have a supplier I did print the return label though and am just going to mail it in since they won't pick up the phone. There is an advantage to buying local sometimes. My experience with this: Buddy bought a Milwaukee sawsall so we could tag team chopping up Ford Rangers. He bought it from Home Depot. It grenaded in no time. Milwaukee essentially told him to get fucked and they won't touch the Home Depot stuff. That was 10 years ago. |
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Posted: 11/16/2016 11:02:34 AM EDT
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I recently rebuilt a M12 battery pack someone was throwing out. I used some tabbed 2600 mAh 18650s. Works great and better capacity that it originally had. Things get sparky if you start shorting things though. So cover the bits you aren't working on with electrical tape.
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Posted: 11/16/2016 11:02:39 AM EDT
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Are they sending you a new one since they list yours? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Finally was able to communicate with a real person at Milwaukee. After several back and forths we discovered they had lost my battery I sent back. I provided them the tracking number used to send it back and it confirms it was delivered to them but it's gone. Sigh. Are they sending you a new one since they list yours? I would sure hope so. I'll update if they do. |
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Posted: 11/16/2016 11:27:10 AM EDT
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So to add to the list of AR vs AK, beans vs no beans, 9mm vs .45, etc....
It's DeWalt vs Milwaukee! |
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Posted: 11/16/2016 11:38:11 AM EDT
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Just buy a damn Hilti already.
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Posted: 11/16/2016 11:46:08 AM EDT
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After working through Black and Decker, then DeWalt, the real problem is battery longevity when they don't break throwing them off the ladder. NiCads usually lasted about 30 months in DIY work. Since two new ones cost as much as a new drill, charger, and two batteries when on sale and even less on Black Friday I just upgrade every three years or so and avoid all the high end drama.
Last time I bought Ryobi and it's good enough. What some aren't saying is that when you move past 18VDC power packs the overall weight of the total unit goes beyond the average guys tolerance to carry and use. I don't see a lot of drill drivers on belts now. They get put down in the bag. Same kind of problem as LBE or duty belt loadout's, a big honkin drill weighs you down and hurts you over the years. I also don't need an heirloom commercial grade tool set. If you are working with them hourly, yes, of course you get duty grade. But DIY? it's like telling yourself you can only use a military issue red dot for $800 on a rifle you only use two weeks a year. It's your money, but no, the cheaper stuff will run well enough and you get to put the money NOT spent into the project, leaving you money to go out for dinner with the spouse. Gear whore escalation is pricey (ask me how I know) and you defer too much income to that and not what you might well have done with it to satisfy some other less realistic dream. In the end they are tools and a box of broken junk is what is left, did the project get done or not? That was the goal in the first place, not a step tread double decker of tools to show off when you open the garage doors. Or, is it? Shades of status, I see Escalades parked in front of trailer houses. Just sayin. BTW, if you drop your tool off a ladder and break it, it's called Darwinism. 
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Posted: 11/16/2016 11:52:48 AM EDT
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Very disappointed in Milwaukee, I don't think they're all they are cracked up to be. 
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Posted: 11/16/2016 12:16:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After working through Black and Decker, then DeWalt, the real problem is battery longevity when they don't break throwing them off the ladder. NiCads usually lasted about 30 months in DIY work. Since two new ones cost as much as a new drill, charger, and two batteries when on sale and even less on Black Friday I just upgrade every three years or so and avoid all the high end drama. Last time I bought Ryobi and it's good enough. What some aren't saying is that when you move past 18VDC power packs the overall weight of the total unit goes beyond the average guys tolerance to carry and use. I don't see a lot of drill drivers on belts now. They get put down in the bag. Same kind of problem as LBE or duty belt loadout's, a big honkin drill weighs you down and hurts you over the years. I also don't need an heirloom commercial grade tool set. If you are working with them hourly, yes, of course you get duty grade. But DIY? it's like telling yourself you can only use a military issue red dot for $800 on a rifle you only use two weeks a year. It's your money, but no, the cheaper stuff will run well enough and you get to put the money NOT spent into the project, leaving you money to go out for dinner with the spouse. Gear whore escalation is pricey (ask me how I know) and you defer too much income to that and not what you might well have done with it to satisfy some other less realistic dream. In the end they are tools and a box of broken junk is what is left, did the project get done or not? That was the goal in the first place, not a step tread double decker of tools to show off when you open the garage doors. Or, is it? Shades of status, I see Escalades parked in front of trailer houses. Just sayin. BTW, if you drop your tool off a ladder and break it, it's called Darwinism. Have to agree with this. As much as I like the Milwaukee drill I have I think my next one will by Ryobi. Its half the price, and I dont think the 20 screws I drive a year will give a rip whether they are driven with a Ryobi or Milwaukee. |
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Posted: 11/16/2016 1:55:38 PM EDT
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Almost to page 4 and no one posted an AvE BOLTR video yet?
I am dissappoint. |
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