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Link Posted: 4/20/2019 6:34:30 PM EST
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Link Posted: 4/20/2019 6:40:05 PM EST
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I don't know what to say.

Trump did the bidding of the DNC on gun rights and immigration... But his words were something else.

Trump one day said we need tough immigration, the next he signed amnesty for illegals, and long-term legal protections to DACA illegals.

His words don't match the DNC, but his actions do match the DNC.

On what position does Romney side with the DNC?

On land use in The West, Romney is for more state rights... Opposite of the DNC.

Romney supports gun rights... Opposite of the DNC.

What position does Romney side with the DNC?
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He has publically supported amnesty and even citizenship for illegals, assault weapons bans, socialized medicine, “choice”,and global warming for starters.

Sounds exactly like DNC platforms to me.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 6:42:38 PM EST
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I just saw that.  It's pinned too lol.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 6:45:37 PM EST
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 Trump supported Romney, that, by your definition, makes him a " Trump-supported Democrat," by your own words and reasoning.
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Those are not my words.

Trump endorsed Romney. Romney is a Republican, which is what Trump (who formally switches parties with comparative regularity) is now. How much, "support," Trump gave Romney is debatable, as Trump didn't give Romney any money, or anything like that, and Romney did not ask for any.

Hillary, Democrat, received financial support from Trump, and Trumps personal public defense of her record after she failed at Benghazi.

Kamala Harris, open-borders, anti-gun Democrat, received financial and material support from Trump in her anti-gun, open-borders efforts.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 6:48:10 PM EST
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Reasoning, you can't bring that word into a conversation with a ROO....it does not exist in their vocabulary..thats like saying liberals use logic..its a no go......
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Reasoning is in my vocabulary...

What was Trumps reasoning, in your reasoned opinion, for giving Democrats amnesty for illegals to end the shut-down.

Other, "take the guns first," Trump followers have called that amnesty for illegals, "winning."

What is your reasoning on that issue?
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 6:53:19 PM EST
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Those are not my words.

Trump endorsed Romney. Romney is a Republican, which is what Trump (who formally switches parties with comparative regularity) is now. How much, "support," Trump gave Romney is debatable, as Trump didn't give Romney any money, or anything like that, and Romney did not ask for any.

Hillary, Democrat, received financial support from Trump, and Trumps personal public defense of her record after she failed at Benghazi.

Kamala Harris, open-borders, anti-gun Democrat, received financial and material support from Trump in her anti-gun, open-borders efforts.
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And Romney defended Hillary Clinton.
And Bill Clinton defended Romney over the complainers about his actions at Bain capital.

For every gripe about Trump, we can find the same or similar about Romney. One could argue, however, that Trump’s support for democrats was in the past and he reformed.  Romney, however, continues to gargle Democrat dick. Constantly.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 6:54:40 PM EST
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Mittens didn't turn down that support either, he sure didn't seem to dislike Trump before he won his Senate seat. Of course, now that he's in he betrays the guy that supported him and helped him win that Senate seat.
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Holy crap.

You need to warn people.

That was funny.

Romney won the Republican Primary by 70+ points. Romney curb-stomped coward Kennedy.

Trump helped Romney? Lol, rofl.

Pushing-back against, "take the guns first," Trump was a central tenet of Romneys campaign in Utah. Romney campaigned that he would support Trump when Trump was helping Utah and conservatives and fight Trump on everything else. He said he would use Trump to get more Fed land moved to Utah control, and fight Trump on anything Trump needed fought on. Pushing-back on Trump was a central tenet of Romneys campaign...

Romney won the Republican Primary in a good old fashioned curb-stomp. Wasn't even close. Romney did not ask for Trumps support, and if Trump had supported coward Kennedy (who was a Never-Trumper, wrote-in Cruz) it would not have made any difference. 70 points. Trump might have got him five. Maybe. Coward quisling Kennedy screwed the pooch in the Primary. Trump could not have helped him win. Trump endorsed Romney without Romney asking.

Its not like Romney stabbed Trump in the back like Trump stabbed conservatives in the back with Trumps press conference with Feinstein. Nothing like that. Romney never promised loyalty to Trump, and fighting Trump to defend conservative ideals was a central tenet of Romneys campaign. It was a campaign promise to push-back against, "take the guns first," Trump.

Trump helped Romney? Lol, rofl. How do you make that stuff up?
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 6:54:43 PM EST
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Reasoning is in my vocabulary...

What was Trumps reasoning, in your reasoned opinion, for giving Democrats amnesty for illegals to end the shut-down.

Other, "take the guns first," Trump followers have called that amnesty for illegals, "winning."

What is your reasoning on that issue?
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You mean the amnesty for illegals that Romney supported long before Trump was even a candidate? That amnesty? Hell, not just amnesty but citizenship.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 6:58:14 PM EST
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That's lack of integrity right there.  I don't know a single LDS person who would pull that disloyal bullshit.
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WTF?

Loyalty to Trump?

It *should* be (for conservatives) loyalty to The Constitution. Trump does not honor his Constitutional oath. Trump criminalized gun parts possession, and gave long term legal protections to illegals...

Loyalty to Trump?

Trump is wishy-washy, and has open-borders, anti-gun Democrat Jared Kushner running Trumps shop... Loyalty to Trump?

It *should* be --for small government, pro-gun conservatives-- loyalty to The Constitution, which Trump is not loyal to...
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:02:53 PM EST
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Roo, Doc is a pretty smart guy.  How can you disagree?
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Doc is a *very* smart guy, and a tremendous asset to arfcom.

Trump on one hand says he is pro-gun and anti-immigration. On the other hand, Trump criminalizes gun parts possession bypassing Congress (setting in stone the path for mag restrictions next), and gave long-term legal protections to illegals. On one hand, his words sound conservative, on the other hand his actions are *clearly* anti-gun, open-borders actions.

A, "take the guns first," Trump follower could point to Trumps words (ignoring Trumps actions) and say, "see, Trump is a conservative, look at his tweets and words."

A, "amnesty for illegals," Trump follower could point to Romneys words, ignoring his actions, and say, "see, Trump is the conservative, and Romney is the liberal, just compare their words, ignore their actions."

Doc is a smart guy, and a very-real asset to arfcom.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:04:10 PM EST
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And Romney defended Hillary Clinton.
And Bill Clinton defended Romney over the complainers about his actions at Bain capital.

For every gripe about Trump, we can find the same or similar about Romney. One could argue, however, that Trump’s support for democrats was in the past and he reformed.  Romney, however, continues to gargle Democrat dick. Constantly.
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I think he only post so he can brag to his buddies how he kicked ass all day on a forum and destroyed actual conservatives...Must really suck knowing you lost before you even started...that has to get old....
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:05:24 PM EST
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Memer when Romney was pro choice? I memer.
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I remember back during the Primary when Trump could not figure out which position to take on abortion, and had five different positions in a matter of days...

I remember...



Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:07:50 PM EST
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Excellent example of Romney's flip-flopping.  
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Or an example of trying to keep a Republican Majority when the polls showed Democrats gaining seats Nationwide...

An excellent example of Trumps flip-flopping was his promise for a, "deportation force," then giving DACA illegals long-term legal protections...

Romney --extremely popular in Utah-- getting pushed into a Senate seat when Republicans lost seats Nationwide is not the same as Trump selling the farm to Democrats on immigration...
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:09:28 PM EST
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This is disturbing, I have never witnessed a public knob polishing.
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You watched Trump end the shut-down by giving massive concessions on illegals to Schumer and Pelosi...

We all watched the collapse of limited-government conservativism when Trump bent-the-knee for illegal immigrants...

That was disturbing to watch...
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:13:24 PM EST
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Doc is a *very* smart guy, and a tremendous asset to arfcom.

Trump on one hand says he is pro-gun and anti-immigration. On the other hand, Trump criminalizes gun parts possession bypassing Congress (setting in stone the path for mag restrictions next), and gave long-term legal protections to illegals. On one hand, his words sound conservative, on the other hand his actions are *clearly* anti-gun, open-borders actions.

A, "take the guns first," Trump follower could point to Trumps words (ignoring Trumps actions) and say, "see, Trump is a conservative, look at his tweets and words."

A, "amnesty for illegals," Trump follower could point to Romneys words, ignoring his actions, and say, "see, Trump is the conservative, and Romney is the liberal, just compare their words, ignore their actions."

Doc is a smart guy, and a very-real asset to arfcom.
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Which is why it’s confusing. Certainly Trump has done those things and deserves criticism for it—but so has Romney and he also deserves criticism for it. You can’t bitch at Trump for saying he’d support amnesty for illegals and not bitch at Romney for supporting amnesty and citizenship for illegals. It makes no sense to me.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:15:41 PM EST
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Attachment Attached File


Mittens has been lying for decades. Flip flop, flip flop, like a fish out of water.
Shame,shame on his supporters.

Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:19:15 PM EST
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We all watched the collapse of limited-government conservativism when Trump bent-the-knee for illegal immigrants...

That was disturbing to watch...
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This is disturbing, I have never witnessed a public knob polishing.
We all watched the collapse of limited-government conservativism when Trump bent-the-knee for illegal immigrants...

That was disturbing to watch...
HA HA HA HA HA HA..... you are delusional to think thats when the collapse of limited-government conservatism started........

George H.W. Bush and his WOD got that ball going......then his son with the PATRIOT Act and all......limited government conservatism has been collapsing for 30 years.....you can't blame Trump for that one.....

Although I'm sure you will try....
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:21:15 PM EST
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He has publically supported amnesty
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He has publically supported amnesty
Trump just gave illegals amnesty.

Trump attacked Romney in 2012 for being, "mean spirited," to illegals... Link

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and even citizenship for illegals,
Trump campaigned on a, "pathway to citizenship," for illegals, and just gave long-term legal protections to illegals.

Romney campaigned heavily in 2012 to punish employers who bring illegals here, and Trump (who does that) flipped-out.

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assault weapons bans,
Romney campaigned against, "G- D- America!" Obama in 2012 on a gun-rights platform.

Romney defended gun rights.

Trump sided with Obama after Sandy Hook.



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socialized medicine,
Romney prevented Trumpcare, (wholesale socialized medicine) in MA... Link



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"choice”,and global warming for starters.

Sounds exactly like DNC platforms to me.
Trump has formally accomplished the DNC platform on gun rights and immigration...

Romney has moved to the right on some political issues? Sure.

Trump lied his head off to conservatives to get elected, and has moved against gun rights, and has moved to give legal protections to illegal immigrants... Central tenets of the DNC.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:24:47 PM EST
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And Romney defended Hillary Clinton.
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And Romney defended Hillary Clinton.
Not after Benghazi. Trump defended Clintons actions after Benghazi.

Romney defended Hillary? When? Trump  gave her immunity. Top that.

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And Bill Clinton defended Romney over the complainers about his actions at Bain capital.
Romneys, "actions" in the free market do not need to be defended on a conservative website. Holy crap.

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For every gripe about Trump, we can find the same or similar about Romney. One could argue, however, that Trump’s support for democrats was in the past and he reformed.  Romney, however, continues to gargle Democrat dick. Constantly.
Trumps support for, "take the guns first," anti-gun initiatives is not in the past.

Trumps push for, "Red Flag," legistlation is right this second.

Trump -just- signed amnesty for illegals... How do you make this stuff up?
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:31:24 PM EST
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You mean the amnesty for illegals that Romney supported long before Trump was even a candidate? That amnesty? Hell, not just amnesty but citizenship.
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Romney campaigned to punish employers who hire illegals in 2012... And Trump --who does that-- called Romney, "mean spirited," to illegals.

Those are Trumps words.

Trumps --own-- words put Trump to the political left of Romney on immigration.

Romney knew no one --including Trump-- was going to deport DACA recipients. Anyone with a functioning brain knew Trump was lying through his teeth when he talked of forcing Mexico to pay for a, "wall," (never mentioning a fence) and enforcing immigration laws with a, "deportation force."

Romneys plan to give DACA folks work-visas that can be pulled if they break the law was a better plan than what we have now with Trumps, "deal" with open-borders Democrats... And Trump called Romneys plan, "mean spirited."

You do not have to guess where either of those to gents are on immigration. Trump firmly puts himself --in Trumps own words-- to the political-left of Romney.

So, you have Trumps words. And now Trump is President, you have his actions. You have Trump giving amnesty to illegals and long-term legal protections...

Trumps, "deals," have been horrific on immigration. Horrific.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:34:04 PM EST
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I think he only post so he can brag to his buddies how he kicked ass all day on a forum and destroyed actual conservatives...Must really suck knowing you lost before you even started...that has to get old....
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Trump has hurt gun rights.

Trump has hurt border security with his amnesty give-away.

Conservatives care about deficit spending, border security, and gun rights... Things Trump struggles in...
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:39:55 PM EST
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lol pivot pivot pivot bring up guns!!

If Romney suddenly announced he was a communist, the Roo would be here defending him and communism. The Roo was pro-Trump until Romney re-entered politics and went on the attack against Trump....now Trump is the worst thing to ever happen according to him.  The Roo is a sham, he doesn't believe in anything, just in his god Romney. The Roo has zero credibility.  The Roo is nothing but a shill who sold his soul to a politician.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:41:13 PM EST
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Which is why it’s confusing. Certainly Trump has done those things and deserves criticism for it—but so has Romney and he also deserves criticism for it. You can’t bitch at Trump for saying he’d support amnesty for illegals and not bitch at Romney for supporting amnesty and citizenship for illegals. It makes no sense to me.
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There is the problem.

Trump ***NEVER*** ever (in the campaign) promised to support amnesty for illegals.

There is the problem.

Trump never, ever promised to support amnesty for illegals. Trump promised the opposite, in fact. Trump promised to deport them by force. Trump openly promised, and repeated his promise for a, "deportation force."

Trump promised tough immigration. Trump --who attacked Romney for being too tough on immigration in 2012-- promised a hard-line on immigration in 2016

Trump promised a Mexico-funded border wall. Trump promised a, "deportation force." Trump never, ever promised amnesty.

Trump did not, "say he'd support amnesty." Trump gave immigrants amnesty, and long-term legal protections to DACA recipients out of the blue to end the shut-down.

That is what is so bizzare about this discussion.

Trump *said* he was going to deport illegals, then he gave them amnesty...

Trump *said* he was going to defend gun rights, then criminalized gun parts possession...

Romney *said* he supported amnesty? Romneys plan in 2012 was to give DACA illegals work visas that could be pulled at any time. Folks called that, "amnesty." Romneys, "deal," was a much better deal that the horrific, "deal," Trump just put into permanent law...

Romney *said* he supported amnesty? Which is a reach, it wasn't what Trump just gave illegals, it wasn't really amnesty, actually, but whatever.

Trump just signed amnesty into permanent US law...
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:44:21 PM EST
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Juni's mental illness has become as rabid and hilarious as Top's.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:45:05 PM EST
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Utah, why you do this?
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:45:47 PM EST
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what a fucking scum bag.  Begs for Trump's endorsement, gets it, and then turns into turbo douche.

HOpe he gets primaried and crushed.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:46:09 PM EST
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Trump has hurt gun rights.

Trump has hurt border security with his amnesty give-away.

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Bla-bla-bla...dude you are the fucking hypocrite of all hypocrites...Trump did this trump did that ...oh but you cannot say one bad thing about Romney... You talk about conservatism, about country, about honor and integrity, all while defending anything that POS Romney has done all while attacking Trump...You side with the enemies of this country, same as your POS hero Romney does....and you have the balls to tell us how bad Trump is and how good Romney is...Nope..sorry you need to take a step back and rethink about every position you represent, and who's views those positions most closely mirror..its not patriotic Americans trying to save this country...
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:48:03 PM EST
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Trump just gave illegals amnesty.

Trump attacked Romney in 2012 for being, "mean spirited," to illegals... Link

Trump campaigned on a, "pathway to citizenship," for illegals, and just gave long-term legal protections to illegals.

Romney campaigned heavily in 2012 to punish employers who bring illegals here, and Trump (who does that) flipped-out.

Romney campaigned against, "G- D- America!" Obama in 2012 on a gun-rights platform.

Romney defended gun rights.

Trump sided with Obama after Sandy Hook.

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Romney prevented Trumpcare, (wholesale socialized medicine) in MA... Link

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Trump has formally accomplished the DNC platform on gun rights and immigration...

Romney has moved to the right on some political issues? Sure.

Trump lied his head off to conservatives to get elected, and has moved against gun rights, and has moved to give legal protections to illegal immigrants... Central tenets of the DNC.
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He has publically supported amnesty
Trump just gave illegals amnesty.

Trump attacked Romney in 2012 for being, "mean spirited," to illegals... Link

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and even citizenship for illegals,
Trump campaigned on a, "pathway to citizenship," for illegals, and just gave long-term legal protections to illegals.

Romney campaigned heavily in 2012 to punish employers who bring illegals here, and Trump (who does that) flipped-out.

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assault weapons bans,
Romney campaigned against, "G- D- America!" Obama in 2012 on a gun-rights platform.

Romney defended gun rights.

Trump sided with Obama after Sandy Hook.

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socialized medicine,
Romney prevented Trumpcare, (wholesale socialized medicine) in MA... Link

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"choice”,and global warming for starters.

Sounds exactly like DNC platforms to me.
Trump has formally accomplished the DNC platform on gun rights and immigration...

Romney has moved to the right on some political issues? Sure.

Trump lied his head off to conservatives to get elected, and has moved against gun rights, and has moved to give legal protections to illegal immigrants... Central tenets of the DNC.
From your link:

"Romney’s solution of “self deportation” for illegal aliens made no sense and suggested that Republicans do not care about Hispanics in general, Trump says.

“He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump says. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,” Trump notes. “He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country."

Trump is correct. Romney is wrong.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:49:55 PM EST
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Mittens has been lying for decades. Flip flop, flip flop, like a fish out of water.
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Mittens has been lying for decades. Flip flop, flip flop, like a fish out of water.
It is interesting to see Trumps, "take the guns first," followers re-using DNC memes from the 2008 and 2012 campaign.

The Denver Post?

Liberal shill.

I make my own memes...



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Shame,shame on his supporters.

Who do we blame for Trumps, "take the guns first," and "amnesty for illegals," flip-flops? His supporters?

I voted for him. You can blame me, I guess. Even though I warned everyone who would listen that Trump and Trumps inner-circle are open-borders anti-gun Democrats...

Shame on us for letting Trump happen.

Romney is not a threat to a wet paper bag. Trump is going to get re-elected to another term, and give us more, "take the guns first," gun control. After the next school shooting, we get an executive-order mag ban or a wholesale AWB (they are all just "features). No grandfathering. Trump proved he could do it. And we will get more amnesty. All the while Trump uses sleight of hand to promise a few more miles of, "bollard fence," Trump calls a, "wall."

Shame on us for letting Trump happen... Amnesty and gun control... And that was while Trump had to worry about re-election...
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I remember back during the Primary when Trump could not figure out which position to take on abortion, and had five different positions in a matter of days...

I remember...

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Lol you're the best.
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HA HA HA HA HA HA..... you are delusional to think thats when the collapse of limited-government conservatism started........

George H.W. Bush and his WOD got that ball going......then his son with the PATRIOT Act and all......limited government conservatism has been collapsing for 30 years.....you can't blame Trump for that one.....

Although I'm sure you will try....
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Trump has renewed the Patriot Act. It is going-strong under Trump.

Tragically, sadly, horrifically, Trump is attempting to force, "Red Flag" legislation to bolster and strengthen the Patriot Act.

Yes, we can blame Trump for that...

Trump has bolstered and strengthened the, "war on drugs," his, "take the guns first," followers brag about his massive, massive economy-crushing deficit spending on fighting the drug, "epidemic."

Trump is not the only President to exploit the Patriot Act.

Trump is not the only President to exploit the WOD to increase Federal power and deficit spending.

Trump isn't the only one. But that is not much of a defense.

If you fear Trumps, "Red Flag," push and the Patriot Act, and increased Policing from the WOD, then we are on the same team.
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Utah, why you do this?
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You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know…....................Mormons.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 7:58:23 PM EST
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Roo hypocrisy..it is even worse than the most leftist leftist..his hero Romney...Must suck when your hero is a proven POS liar....

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BOOM,there it is..........
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 8:01:38 PM EST
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Romney is a globalist ditch pig.
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lol pivot pivot pivot bring up guns!!
On a gun website!

The horror!

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If Romney suddenly announced he was a communist, the Roo would be here defending him and communism.
If Trump suddenly called a press-conference to side with Diane Feinstein on gun rights, Trumps, "take the guns first," followers would be here defending Trump.

Oh, wait!

Snap!

Romney has about as much of a chance announcing he is a communist as Trump has to switching-back to the Republican Party on gun rights. It is not going to happen...

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The Roo was pro-Trump until Romney re-entered politics and went on the attack against Trump....now Trump is the worst thing to ever happen according to him.
I was one of Trumps biggest detractors in the Primary.

Then TRump called a press conference and formally announced he was joining Feinstein and Democrats on gun rights...

Trump is the worst thing to happen to gun rights in a long time. Trump stabbed gun owners in the back...



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The Roo is a sham, he doesn't believe in anything, just in his god Romney. The Roo has zero credibility.  The Roo is nothing but a shill who sold his soul to a politician.
Pull your punches.

The same can be said about the, "take the guns first," Trump followers...

I believe very strongly in conservativism. I believe very strongly in the 2nd Amendment and limited government. I believe very strongly in a need to strengthen the borders by punishing employers who bring-in illegals. The border crisis won't be solved until we do that.

I believe very strongly in those things...

Trump just gave-away amnesty and has set-in-stone the legal avenue to enact an AWB (ban features, not guns per se) without going-through Congress... Magazine capacity, pistol grips, adjustable stocks... All just, "features," and Trump just proved he can do it. Trumps judges will enforce Trumps legal precedent.

Pull your punches. "Take the guns first," Trump followers fit your negative description more than I do...
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 8:07:54 PM EST
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None of Trump’s promises were feasible given that dickheads like Romney populate the GOP.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 8:09:33 PM EST
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what a fucking scum bag.  Begs for Trump's endorsement, gets it, and then turns into turbo douche.
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what a fucking scum bag.  Begs for Trump's endorsement, gets it, and then turns into turbo douche.
The last time Romney asked Trump for Trumps endorsement was in 2012. Against Obama. Many conservatives gave their endorsement against Obama without much pressure. It took, per Trump, some asking on Romneys part to get Trump to support the campaign against Obama...

Trump gave Romney an endorsement in 2018 without Romney even asking for it... Just saying.

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HOpe he gets primaried and crushed.
I was thinking the same thing about Trump after Trump gave-away amnesty to get Trumps shut-down ended...

And when Trump criminalized gun parts possession...

I guess I get your book in a few weeks. Look forward to it getting here, bro.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 8:11:44 PM EST
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You side with the enemies of this country,
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You side with the enemies of this country,
No I don't.

Trump, on the other hand, just gave illegals amnesty. You support Trumps actions?

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same as your POS hero Romney does....
Romney sides with enemies of the US? When?

Democrats accuse Trump of that. Obama did that. When did Romney? What are you talking about?
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 8:17:08 PM EST
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Trump is correct. Romney is wrong.
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Trumps, "deal," has been an absolute disaster. And has given amnesty to illegals.

Romneys plan --that Trump attacked-- did not cost any more to implement. It forced employers to not hire illegals, and removed the carrot-on-the-stick forcing illegals here.

Trump Corp (among other companies) employ illegals.

Handouts and .gov programs give illegals incentive to come here.

Remove the incentive... They self-deport.

Trump attacked that as an employer who uses foreign labor... Trump attacked it, because it would actually work, and not cost taxpayers more.

Trumps, "deal," has been an absolute disaster. Employers are still driving illegal immigrants here. Sanctuary Cities are as protected as ever. Illegals have legal protections Trump just signed into law...

Romney was right. Trumps, "deal," has been an absolute disaster. Self-deportation. Stopping benefits, and stopping employment is the answer to illegal immigration... That is the honest answer to illegal immigration.

Trump beats the, "build an expensive wall, build an expensive wall!" Meanwhile Trump Corp and The CHamber of Commerce push for more immigrant labor...

The answer is to punish employers for hiring illegals, and push illegals off welfare. They self-deport.

Romney was right. Trumps, "deal," is an absolute disaster.
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BOOM,there it is..........
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That thread is 3 pages deep with no response from the Romney nut swinger.  Wonderful why that is?
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 8:19:08 PM EST
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Friggin Romney is a shitbag and he always has been.   I don't know Utah was thinking electing that carpetbagger.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 8:20:06 PM EST
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You are scared of globalism?

Globalism keeps you up at night?

Trump has more ex Goldman Sachs employees in his Administration than Obama and Bush *combined.*

Chew on that for a minute.

Trumps Red Flag legislation keeps me up at night. Trumps push is a restriction on the 1st Amendment as much as it is on the 2nd. Trumps and Democrats efforts on this is really, truly to restrict political speech. Nothing more. Nothing less...
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 8:25:35 PM EST
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Makes a lot of sense.

Romney was preventing Trump from enacting his, "gun rights commission," while he was skiing in Utah and playing with his grandkids the last three years?

Trump failed? Blame Romney!

Romney has been a Senator for only a few months? Blame Romney, anyway!

Trump was going to lock-up Hillary, and Romney ruined everything! Forced Trump to call Hillary and give her legal immunity the day after the election! Drat that sheistie Romney!

Moving the goal posts, nothing more. Nothing less.

No one outside Trumps open-borders, anti-gun Democrat inner-circle prevented Trump from having a, "Gun rights commission." No one outside Trumps Democrat inner-circle prevented Trump from pushing a conservative agenda.

Trump, and Trumps Democrat inner-circle are to blame for Trumps failures. Not the NRA. Not Paul Ryan. Not Romney. Losers make excuses.

Winners give amnesty to illegals, call 26 miles of a "bollard fence," a, "wall," and criminalize gun parts possession bypassing congress... Amiright? Amiright? That is winning, right!

Trump is to blame for Trumps failures.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 8:26:56 PM EST
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Trumps, "deal," has been an absolute disaster. And has given amnesty to illegals.

Romneys plan --that Trump attacked-- did not cost any more to implement. It forced employers to not hire illegals, and removed the carrot-on-the-stick forcing illegals here.

Trump Corp (among other companies) employ illegals.

Handouts and .gov programs give illegals incentive to come here.

Remove the incentive... They self-deport.

Trump attacked that as an employer who uses foreign labor... Trump attacked it, because it would actually work, and not cost taxpayers more.

Trumps, "deal," has been an absolute disaster. Employers are still driving illegal immigrants here. Sanctuary Cities are as protected as ever. Illegals have legal protections Trump just signed into law...

Romney was right. Trumps, "deal," has been an absolute disaster. Self-deportation. Stopping benefits, and stopping employment is the answer to illegal immigration... That is the honest answer to illegal immigration.

Trump beats the, "build an expensive wall, build an expensive wall!" Meanwhile Trump Corp and The CHamber of Commerce push for more immigrant labor...

The answer is to punish employers for hiring illegals, and push illegals off welfare. They self-deport.

Romney was right. Trumps, "deal," is an absolute disaster.
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Trump is correct. Romney is wrong.
Trumps, "deal," has been an absolute disaster. And has given amnesty to illegals.

Romneys plan --that Trump attacked-- did not cost any more to implement. It forced employers to not hire illegals, and removed the carrot-on-the-stick forcing illegals here.

Trump Corp (among other companies) employ illegals.

Handouts and .gov programs give illegals incentive to come here.

Remove the incentive... They self-deport.

Trump attacked that as an employer who uses foreign labor... Trump attacked it, because it would actually work, and not cost taxpayers more.

Trumps, "deal," has been an absolute disaster. Employers are still driving illegal immigrants here. Sanctuary Cities are as protected as ever. Illegals have legal protections Trump just signed into law...

Romney was right. Trumps, "deal," has been an absolute disaster. Self-deportation. Stopping benefits, and stopping employment is the answer to illegal immigration... That is the honest answer to illegal immigration.

Trump beats the, "build an expensive wall, build an expensive wall!" Meanwhile Trump Corp and The CHamber of Commerce push for more immigrant labor...

The answer is to punish employers for hiring illegals, and push illegals off welfare. They self-deport.

Romney was right. Trumps, "deal," is an absolute disaster.
Self deportation was a stupid idea that would have never worked and did not help republicans in the 2012 election.

Trump was correct in saying that it was mean-spirited and maniacal, forcing illegal immigrants to be jobless and homeless across the US. Are you nuts?

That's why he lost.
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Self deportation was a stupid idea that would have never worked and did not help republicans in the 2012 election.

Trump was correct in saying that it was mean-spirited and maniacal, forcing illegal immigrants to be jobless and homeless across the US. Are you nuts?

That's why he lost.
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Self-deportation is the only plan that will *actually* work. Force illegals out of work, and off welfare.

Mean spirited? To who? The taxpayers who are funding their way of life?

Trump was able to lie, effectively, on immigration. "Mexico will pay for it." Just like Obama promised, "you can keep your doctor." "Mexico will pay for it," was a lie from the beginning.

Mean spirited? Conservativism will end with the continued influx of illegals. Trump just gave them amnesty.

Mean spirited? They are out-breeding conservative tax-payers in droves. Trump could build a wall, (he won't) never let another illegal in, ever (he won't) and they win --in sheer numbers-- in a decade... Mean spirited? It was the only option.

Then.

Now, they have legal protections given by Trump... And they get to stay.

Pushing them out of work and off welfare was the only chance... They are here to stay now.

Mean spirited? They are going to be a force to recon with politically in a decade, in sheer breeding numbers. Plus the amnesty incentive right now pushing them here...

Mean spirited? Huh. Ok. I think Trumps amnesty he just gave-away is mean spirited to tax-payers funding it... But that is just me.

Why Romney lost...

Don't blame Romney... Link

Romney was not the problem... Link
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 8:40:35 PM EST
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I haven't seen a display of mental illness this bad since Deej got banned.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 8:43:16 PM EST
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Self-deportation is the only plan that will *actually* work. Force illegals out of work, and off welfare.

Mean spirited? To who? The taxpayers who are funding their way of life?

Trump was able to lie, effectively, on immigration. "Mexico will pay for it." Just like Obama promised, "you can keep your doctor." "Mexico will pay for it," was a lie from the beginning.

Mean spirited? Conservativism will end with the continued influx of illegals. Trump just gave them amnesty.

Mean spirited? They are out-breeding conservative tax-payers in droves. Trump could build a wall, (he won't) never let another illegal in, ever (he won't) and they win --in sheer numbers-- in a decade... Mean spirited? It was the only option.

Then.

Now, they have legal protections given by Trump... And they get to stay.

Pushing them out of work and off welfare was the only chance... They are here to stay now.

Mean spirited? They are going to be a force to recon with politically in a decade, in sheer breeding numbers. Plus the amnesty incentive right now pushing them here...

Mean spirited? Huh. Ok. I think Trumps amnesty he just gave-away is mean spirited to tax-payers funding it... But that is just me.

Why Romney lost...

Don't blame Romney... Link

Romney was not the problem... Link
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Self deportation was a stupid idea that would have never worked and did not help republicans in the 2012 election.

Trump was correct in saying that it was mean-spirited and maniacal, forcing illegal immigrants to be jobless and homeless across the US. Are you nuts?

That's why he lost.
Self-deportation is the only plan that will *actually* work. Force illegals out of work, and off welfare.

Mean spirited? To who? The taxpayers who are funding their way of life?

Trump was able to lie, effectively, on immigration. "Mexico will pay for it." Just like Obama promised, "you can keep your doctor." "Mexico will pay for it," was a lie from the beginning.

Mean spirited? Conservativism will end with the continued influx of illegals. Trump just gave them amnesty.

Mean spirited? They are out-breeding conservative tax-payers in droves. Trump could build a wall, (he won't) never let another illegal in, ever (he won't) and they win --in sheer numbers-- in a decade... Mean spirited? It was the only option.

Then.

Now, they have legal protections given by Trump... And they get to stay.

Pushing them out of work and off welfare was the only chance... They are here to stay now.

Mean spirited? They are going to be a force to recon with politically in a decade, in sheer breeding numbers. Plus the amnesty incentive right now pushing them here...

Mean spirited? Huh. Ok. I think Trumps amnesty he just gave-away is mean spirited to tax-payers funding it... But that is just me.

Why Romney lost...

Don't blame Romney... Link

Romney was not the problem... Link
Such ignorance.

Keeping them out of this country is the best course of action to prevent them from taking advantage of our generosity and hospitality.

Forcing them to be homeless and jobless is downright evil.
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Mittens has been lying for decades. Flip flop, flip flop, like a fish out of water.
Shame,shame on his supporters.

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You are correct.
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I haven't seen a display of mental illness this bad since Deej got banned.
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Same level of cognitive functioning.
Link Posted: 4/20/2019 8:55:01 PM EST
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I haven't seen a display of mental illness this bad since Deej got banned.
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It's actually creepy and makes my skin crawl.
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