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Posted: 2/12/2018 8:40:24 PM EST
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In government contracting, native Alaskan companies get preferential treatment, even above and beyond the "small disadvantaged business" classifications. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We'll have contracts for oranges awarded to growers in Alaska because they greased the right wheels. 
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Posted: 2/12/2018 8:40:31 PM EST
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can you tell me more about the chicken fucking part? will that come in the box, or can I redeem that item in-store? not asking for a friend. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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open ended purchases with food stamps are bullshit... the ONLY things they should buy is, rice, beans, potatoes, and cheap assed chicken. that's fucking it. zero lobster, zero soda, zero junk food, zero cash , etc. rice, beans, potatoes, and fucking chicken. 
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Posted: 2/12/2018 8:42:44 PM EST
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Am I missing something? Sounds like they still would be able to get the good stuff, steak, chicken, fish. Whatever keeps them from buying Red Bull, soda, candy, and other junk food |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 8:51:17 PM EST
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I lived in a food desert. 5% rich people, 95% poor.
We had an expensive, high end specialty store, and a low rent sleezy off brand grocery store. Borrowing a car to go to a Safeway 15 miles away was a treat. We would load up like it was Costco (before there were warehouse grocery stores.) Trying to grocery shop via public transportation was a nightmare. Walking home 8 city blocks carrying 4 bags was a challenge. |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 8:52:06 PM EST
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Get this SHIT DONE!! I'm all for it and somebody in here said, make the criminals in our penal system farm!
Hell yeah, give 'em some hoe's & shovels and get to work fuckers. |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 8:59:21 PM EST
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Posted: 2/12/2018 9:00:55 PM EST
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Posted: 2/12/2018 9:21:17 PM EST
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Link In addition to being the nation’s largest retailer, Walmart likely takes in the most food stamp dollars—an estimated 18 percent last year, according to leaked comments from a company vice president at a private dinner last fall, which Walmart later confirmed. That sum would amount to $13 billion, or about 4 percent of Walmart’s total U.S. sales. This is big business here people, never gonna happen. |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 9:24:11 PM EST
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Yeah, there is an underground black market in EBT. As I understand it, and I could be wrong, people get their EBT card recharged by Uncle Sugar every month. They go to some shady store in the hood where they get maybe $50 cash in return for $100 EBT credit. They then take that $40 and buy beer, cigarettes and a $10 bag of pot. Not no mo'. Here's your box of groceries, see ya next month. Maybe the dope dealer on the corner will accept a package of pasta and a can of chicken meat as acceptable payment, but I doubt it. How would they jump fences running from the cops with a ruck sack full of spaghetti- o's and Trix?  And they probably sale it for more than 50 cent on the dollar. No tax on EBT purchase either. They get amount of $ from some one they know, give them the card and pin and that person then goes and spend whatever the agree amount is, also they get points toward fuel at Krogers off EBT purchases also |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 9:25:36 PM EST
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I just want you to know that I read all of your posts in Denzel's voice from training day. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Am I missing something? Sounds like they still would be able to get the good stuff, steak, chicken, fish. There should audits done on it. Honestly it's 2018. No real reason a query can't be done on the system to see what is being bought. You spend all your money on junk food. You're cut off. If you're young and fit you should have to do some type of community service. It doesn't have to be picking up trash either. It could be tending the gates at a local HS football game or something and the school admin signs off on it.
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Posted: 2/12/2018 9:34:37 PM EST
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Yup. I'm gonna predict this will get opposition from all sorts of "unexpected" places. Walmart, and other grocers, for instance. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Credit card processing companies like Fiserv make a fucktton processing EBT payments. Not to mention supermarkets and gas stations are gonna be pissed Too many special interests making money off of EBT waste. I'm gonna predict this will get opposition from all sorts of "unexpected" places. Walmart, and other grocers, for instance. |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 9:39:23 PM EST
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No, most of the problem is too many hoes getting the seed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seeds and a hoe. 
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Posted: 2/12/2018 9:41:52 PM EST
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Bill it as blue apron for poor people. Look gourmet food delivered directly to your door. |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 9:44:11 PM EST
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We'll let Walmart handle logistics and distribution. They in turn can sub contract out local distribution to mom & pop corner stores to serve the transportationally disadvantaged. Amazon can handle home delivery for the handicapped. Private/Public partnerships baby! Get your daily calorie allowance here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Make government cheese great again !! (Makes awesome grilled cheese sammitches BTW). 5-10 dollars for 5 pound on the black "no pun intended" market. Damn I miss government cheese Walmart stock does not approve this message. Let them eat beans Private/Public partnerships baby! Get your daily calorie allowance here. |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 9:48:33 PM EST
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I can already see the sidewalks filled with what looks like a farmers market on benefit day, lol it will be glorious as they flood inner cities with cheap gray market govt handouts.
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Posted: 2/12/2018 9:49:18 PM EST
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Fucking awesome. This is what the program should have been all along. |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 9:52:07 PM EST
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It will never happen
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Posted: 2/12/2018 9:59:57 PM EST
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Would still leave homeless with no place to store or cook meals. How to solve that?
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Posted: 2/12/2018 10:20:42 PM EST
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Oh lord Jesus, please let this happen.  Attached FileIf it does, Trump will become the greatest President of our time. Even If it doesn't, Trump's |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 10:34:15 PM EST
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All these jobs could be done by people collecting unemployment checks Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I see a business opportunity. The same companies that now benefit can continue to do so, but on a wholesale level. The boxes need to be manufactured and delivered to a packing facility. They then need to be filled and distributed. To be a recipient, one must fill X number of boxes per week/month/quarter. All of this activity needs to be managed. Contracts would need to be let and the work organized. It could be a win for everybody involved except the taxpayers that are robbed in order to fund this legalized crime. Put the welfare recipients in charge of distributing welfare to welfare recipients. What on earth could go wrong??? [crazy] |
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Posted: 2/12/2018 10:43:26 PM EST
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Excellent idea.
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Posted: 2/12/2018 11:32:13 PM EST
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FPNI
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Posted: 2/13/2018 12:36:22 AM EST
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It's a matter of virtue signalling for tribal politics. It's nice if food stamps get fixed, but it's not about frugality. Ghetto welfare is budget dust compared to Medicaid/Medicare/SS Boomer welfare. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's not a matter of deciding what food people eat. It's a matter of controlling where my money gets spent. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 6:21:37 AM EST
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This is kind of a stupid idea. There are better places to save money or generate jobs by far than something like this. But whatever, I always love how many of the "Muh freedom!!!" guys on here want to decide what food people eat lol Does that mean I get a vote on small arms acquisition just cause I pay taxes towards them too? M27s for all branches just to piss off joglee!!!! Beggars can't be choosers. Did you put on your pussy hat to type this post? |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 6:28:58 AM EST
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No, most of the problem is too many hoes getting the seed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seeds and a hoe. Good one! On point, I love this idea! There is way too much fraud and abuse of the EBT card system. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 6:30:18 AM EST
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Is this a KETO thread?
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Posted: 2/13/2018 6:33:51 AM EST
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This plan would be a great start to revise what is in place now.
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Posted: 2/13/2018 6:38:21 AM EST
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Should have been that way all along.
Good idea Trump.....as usual. 
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Posted: 2/13/2018 6:38:41 AM EST
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How will tgey survive without chips and soda?
Seriously, i see so many using their Link cards on frozen pizza, fries, breaded chicken and other processed crap food. Used to be poor people ate cheap food like a whole chicken and potatoes. They werent 300 lbs either. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 6:41:28 AM EST
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How will tgey survive without chips and soda? Seriously, i see so many using their Link cards on frozen pizza, fries, breaded chicken and other processed crap food. Used to be poor people ate cheap food like a whole chicken and potatoes. They werent 300 lbs either. We were not unusual in that regard either back then. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 6:48:13 AM EST
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It'd mean you could go to Walmart on the first of the month again.
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Posted: 2/13/2018 6:48:40 AM EST
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Any comments from the left yet? They oughta be creative.
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Posted: 2/13/2018 7:06:32 AM EST
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Is powdered milk still a thing?  I packaged that stuff for a summer when I was a teen. Still can’t stand the smell of powdered milk.
To the original post: I like the idea in theory as ebt type programs get abused. However, the cost savings may not be there as you are now having to pay for the food purchased from the source, the logistics costs of transporting and distributing massive amounts of bulk product, warehousing, etc. Not saying it can’t be done, just would be interested to see more details on the plan. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 7:37:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I packaged that stuff for a summer when I was a teen. Still can't stand the smell of powdered milk.
To the original post: I like the idea in theory as ebt type programs get abused. However, the cost savings may not be there as you are now having to pay for the food purchased from the source, the logistics costs of transporting and distributing massive amounts of bulk product, warehousing, etc. Not saying it can't be done, just would be interested to see more details on the plan. Column A: Free shit to some crotch dropping spawning ghetto hog and her baby daddies. Column B: Simple jobs for simple people who can learn some hard work, pride, and self confidence to become productive citizens who will be less inclined to spawn out kids. It'll take a few weeks to consider what option I would choose I think. 
Or not. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 7:38:28 AM EST
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Hmm. Let's consider this, what could we spend our money on? Column A: Free shit to some crotch dropping spawning ghetto hog and her baby daddies. Column B: Simple jobs for simple people who can learn some hard work, pride, and self confidence to become productive citizens who will be less inclined to spawn out kids. It'll take a few weeks to consider what option I would choose I think.
Or not. 
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Posted: 2/13/2018 7:41:40 AM EST
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But but but but but but but how will they sell their food stamps for a new 65" tv?! 
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Posted: 2/13/2018 7:42:32 AM EST
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I think its more about not buying cheetos and cutting off the scams. Of course a bunch of stores that rely on EBT customers might not like it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Am I missing something? Sounds like they still would be able to get the good stuff, steak, chicken, fish. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 7:46:22 AM EST
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The fatty's will never go for it. Great idea that will be shot down by liberals. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 7:54:16 AM EST
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Will there be any grape drank? |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 7:57:05 AM EST
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Credit card processing companies like Fiserv make a fucktton processing EBT payments. Not to mention supermarkets and gas stations are gonna be pissed Too many special interests making money off of EBT waste. It's a bold and potentially brilliant idea. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 8:05:56 AM EST
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They used to do something similar around here. They called it "Commodities". You'd go pick up a box of flour, beans, etc.
I don't really have a problem with it. Alternately, restrict EBT to a specified list of commodities. Anything above that, you pay cash for. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 8:11:55 AM EST
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Posted: 2/13/2018 8:18:37 AM EST
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No as far as I know they don't go to some shady grocery store. They just get the money from the welfare check off the card to buy their other items. And they probably sale it for more than 50 cent on the dollar. No tax on EBT purchase either. They get amount of $ from some one they know, give them the card and pin and that person then goes and spend whatever the agree amount is, also they get points toward fuel at Krogers off EBT purchases also Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, there is an underground black market in EBT. As I understand it, and I could be wrong, people get their EBT card recharged by Uncle Sugar every month. They go to some shady store in the hood where they get maybe $50 cash in return for $100 EBT credit. They then take that $40 and buy beer, cigarettes and a $10 bag of pot. Not no mo'. Here's your box of groceries, see ya next month. Maybe the dope dealer on the corner will accept a package of pasta and a can of chicken meat as acceptable payment, but I doubt it. How would they jump fences running from the cops with a ruck sack full of spaghetti- o's and Trix? And they probably sale it for more than 50 cent on the dollar. No tax on EBT purchase either. They get amount of $ from some one they know, give them the card and pin and that person then goes and spend whatever the agree amount is, also they get points toward fuel at Krogers off EBT purchases also |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 8:19:32 AM EST
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Unfortunately, this idea has about as much chance of becoming law as the chance that Congress will ever appropriate enough money to build an effective barrier on the southern border.
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Posted: 2/13/2018 8:22:25 AM EST
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When I was a tot, in the late 70's. Dad just got out of The Navy, and went to work pouring concrete.
He hurt his back badly, ( nearly 70 today, he's half in a wheelchair because of it) I briefly remember blocks of .gov cheese, powdered milk, ect. I ate it and was thankful, we didn't eat steak or takeout. My brother and sister weren't born till 6 and 7 years later as we couldn't afford it. shortly after he got well enough to work, drove a truck, and then started a trucking company working 16 hr days but made a fortune and repaid that cost of .gov cheese via taxes 87,000x over. THAT's how it's supposed to work. not raising 3rd generations of dependent kids on it. The "system" needs an overhaul. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 8:25:45 AM EST
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It will never happen 
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Posted: 2/13/2018 9:00:56 AM EST
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When my buddy lived in Michigan, he saw people buy cases of the cheapest water, wheel it outside and dump the water. Then, they would take the bottle back in for the .10 deposit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, there is an underground black market in EBT. As I understand it, and I could be wrong, people get their EBT card recharged by Uncle Sugar every month. They go to some shady store in the hood where they get maybe $50 cash in return for $100 EBT credit. They then take that $40 and buy beer, cigarettes and a $10 bag of pot. Not no mo'. Here's your box of groceries, see ya next month. Maybe the dope dealer on the corner will accept a package of pasta and a can of chicken meat as acceptable payment, but I doubt it. How would they jump fences running from the cops with a ruck sack full of spaghetti- o's and Trix? And they probably sale it for more than 50 cent on the dollar. No tax on EBT purchase either. They get amount of $ from some one they know, give them the card and pin and that person then goes and spend whatever the agree amount is, also they get points toward fuel at Krogers off EBT purchases also Everybody in the hood knows a person that likes to buy stuff or take it off your hands |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 9:23:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would bet a lot of people would miraculously find a job People get by, but the bad teeth, tattered clothing and dirty kids in a country this hugely wealthy is hard to take. There's a lot of honest-to-God gut wrenching poverty in these mountains, and I see people in the local groceries buying food and staples in line with the programs intent almost every day. Cutting off the very small amount of discretionary money these people are given strikes me as extraordinarily mean-spirited. Boxes of food don't buy costly winter jackets to put on children's backs. They don't make expensive repairs to beat-to-shit cars, or fix the heat and patch the roof in tumble-down trailers. The people on this thread advocating shaming people, making kids grow up with the stigma of poverty, and punishing the estimated 85% of the homeless suffering from mental illness so they'll "get a job" need to seriously think about what, "There but for the grace of God go I" means. |
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Posted: 2/13/2018 9:27:52 AM EST
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Fucking win lol
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Posted: 2/13/2018 9:32:18 AM EST
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Yep, the entitlement state is a train wreck and is in need of sweeping reform, but...it's not always about the recipients miraculously finding a job. There are help wanted signs in damn near every store in this part of WNC. They're almost all service jobs, and they pay about the same thing...roughly $8 to $11 an hour. Try raising two or three kids, keeping a roof over your head and a car running on $21K a year. People get by, but the bad teeth, tattered clothing and dirty kids in a country this hugely wealthy is hard to take. There's a lot of honest-to-God gut wrenching poverty in these mountains, and I see people in the local groceries buying food and staples in line with the programs intent almost every day. Cutting off the very small amount of discretionary money these people are given strikes me as extraordinarily mean-spirited. Boxes of food don't buy costly winter jackets to put on children's backs. They don't make expensive repairs to beat-to-shit cars, or fix the heat and patch the roof in tumble-down trailers. The people on this thread advocating shaming people, making kids grow up with the stigma of poverty, and punishing the estimated 85% of the homeless suffering from mental illness so they'll "get a job" need to seriously think about what, "There but for the grace of God go I" means. You left out some social problems, like AIDS. 
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