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Posted: 1/28/2018 7:23:04 PM EDT
Watching the true story about the 96 tragedy it's hard to believe people put themselves in those kind of environments to say " I went where many haven't. "
The guy from TX that survived lost his nose and both hands. Hell of a price to pay to come back home |
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I was listening to a Joe Rogan podcast in which he had a guest who rescues climbers. He summited Everest in 2001, and said that most deaths happen on the way down.
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I think those people would rather go out doing what they love.
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People do lose their lives up there but the story goes they were on the way back down when a fast moving storm came in and that combined with lack of oxygen did them in. View Quote |
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I was listening to a Joe Rogan podcast in which he had a guest who rescues climbers. He summited Everest in 2001, and said that most deaths happen on the way down. View Quote Joe Rogan Experience #977 - Jeff Evans & Bud Brutsman |
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The biggest problem in 96 was the incompetence of the tour guides. There are strict turn around times so you can get back to camp safely, summit achieved or not. These were completely ignored and people died for it. The Texas guy that lost body parts also went snow blind early on(one of the first LASIK patients to go high altitude climbing, found some problems) and they just left him on the mountain saying they'd help him down when they return from the summit. Which didn't happen because they didn't turn around on schedule.
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Anyone want to go up to the top and take a crazy carpet back down
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People do lose their lives up there but the story goes they were on the way back down when a fast moving storm came in and that combined with lack of oxygen did them in. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Who was the noob girl that they dragged her ass up over the top and she only eat Ramon noodles or some shit like that
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The biggest problem in 96 was the incompetence of the tour guides. There are strict turn around times so you can get back to camp safely, summit achieved or not. These were completely ignored and people died for it. The Texas guy that lost body parts also went snow blind early on(one of the first LASIK patients to go high altitude climbing, found some problems) and they just left him on the mountain saying they'd help him down when they return from the summit. Which didn't happen because they didn't turn around on schedule. View Quote some peoples ambition huh... |
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Watching the true story about the 96 tragedy it's hard to believe people put themselves in those kind of environments to say " I went where many haven't. " The guy from TX that survived lost his nose and both hands. Hell of a price to pay to come back home View Quote Problems often arise (including during the '96 tragedy) because so many people are going up at once. |
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If I remember right, the reason they got stuck on the way down was because they were late getting to the summit due to a traffic jam of climbers all attempting to summit the same day. Get-there-itis on the part of the guides/climbers meant they took the risk of summiting too late and getting trapped in the weather. View Quote |
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Coming down is what gets most of the victims. View Quote |
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Quoted: It's because most people who pay $80-100k to be guided up fail to realize, even after being told relentlessly, that getting to the top is only 50% of the climb. Accidents happen when clients get careless, rush, are exhausted, etc. on the way down. They spend all their energy getting to the top without realizing they need almost as much time and energy for the trip down. View Quote |
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Clipping jumars into pre-placed fixed ropes and breathing out of a SCUBA tank is not mountain climbing.
In reality, to the serious alpinist, pre-placed ropes are cheating and O2 bottles are much too heavy to be considered practical for the speeds necessary to move in the mountains safely. For a more realistic portrayal of what is actually real alpine climbing, check out Mark Twight's books. He's a hard core badass. Those fools on Everest are just tourists w/ SCUBA tanks, they are not to be confused with real alpine climbers. I just thought I should clarify. |
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If you think Everest climbers are crazy, check out K2 View Quote One of these days a surprise storm is going to catch the huge column of climbers stuck in the "traffic jam" between the summit and high camp on Everest. It'll kill many more than in 1996. |
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Who was the noob girl that they dragged her ass up over the top and she only eat Ramon noodles or some shit like that View Quote |
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Clipping jumars into pre-placed fixed ropes and breathing out of a SCUBA tank is not mountain climbing. In reality, to the serious alpinist, pre-placed ropes are cheating and O2 bottles are much too heavy to be considered practical for the speeds necessary to move in the mountains safely. For a more realistic portrayal of what is actually real alpine climbing, check out Mark Twight's books. He's a hard core badass. Those fools on Everest are just tourists w/ SCUBA tanks, they are not to be confused with real alpine climbers. I just thought I should clarify. View Quote |
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Clipping jumars into pre-placed fixed ropes and breathing out of a SCUBA tank is not mountain climbing. In reality, to the serious alpinist, pre-placed ropes are cheating and O2 bottles are much too heavy to be considered practical for the speeds necessary to move in the mountains safely. For a more realistic portrayal of what is actually real alpine climbing, check out Mark Twight's books. He's a hard core badass. Those fools on Everest are just tourists w/ SCUBA tanks, they are not to be confused with real alpine climbers. I just thought I should clarify. View Quote Thanks in advance. |
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I was listening to a Joe Rogan podcast in which he had a guest who rescues climbers. He summited Everest in 2001, and said that most deaths happen on the way down. View Quote Coming down is tough & dangerous - get tired, get sloppy, make a misstep & put crampon points into your calf, then you really have a tough time walking down! ETA "Touching the Void" is a good movie: 2 experienced climbers summit Siula Grande in the Peruvian Andes. It goes as you might expect. Strange movie about a true event. |
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I wouldn't piss on Kathy O'dowd and Ian Woodall if they were on the ground in front of me on fire.
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Most of the Mallory recovery expedition believed he had summited (making him the first to summit Everest) but died on the way down. Coming down is tough & dangerous - get tired, get sloppy, make a misstep & out cramping points into your calf, then you really have a tough time walking down! View Quote |
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The mountain itself isn't that hard to climb, it's that last 800ft of the Death Zone that gets you.
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But 6.5% of those who drive them don't die from doing so. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Sandy Pittman, but complete misconception. Accomplished mountaineer who finished the Seven Summits that day and survived without any real injury. Her 3rd attempt at Everest, hardly a noob. All the clients and Sherpas in her group survived, and one of her guides died while trying to rescue the idiots from another agency that didn't turn around on time. She did have a customized stove but it was basically a fancy lightweight climbing stove, which is required equipment anyway. Some media hack turned it into a complete tea set that was hauled up by Sherpas. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Who was the noob girl that they dragged her ass up over the top and she only eat Ramon noodles or some shit like that Authors gotta hype to make the sale. |
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That's what happened to the guy in the Joe Rogan podcast. He said that he clipped-in almost as an afterthought, and then stumbled or tripped on the way down. The ropes saved him from a potentially deadly fall that day. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Most of the Mallory recovery expedition believed he had summited (making him the first to summit Everest) but died on the way down. Coming down is tough & dangerous - get tired, get sloppy, make a misstep & out cramping points into your calf, then you really have a tough time walking down! I miss it. |
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