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Link Posted: 12/15/2017 10:53:03 PM EST
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I'll be shocked if the FBI used the Dossier for anything other than a door stop.
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So, T_S and B_S, what do you guys think should happen if the Fusion GPS dossier was the basis for the secret court warrant approval?
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What do you think is the likelihood that the Fusion GPS dossier was used as evidence to obtain the secret court warrant the second time around?
I'll be shocked if the FBI used the Dossier for anything other than a door stop.
It's worth less than a door stop.  He's right that the deluded Dumbazzes likely used it as justification to spy on Trump to get Trump.

Carry on looking for that pie in the sky.

Link Posted: 12/15/2017 10:56:35 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/15/2017 11:00:51 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/15/2017 11:42:59 PM EST
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"WSJ: There's Mounting Evidence of 2016 Election Meddling Coming From the FBI"

"There is something rotten at the Federal Bureau of Investigation. I mean all of this is just absurd. We have two FBI agents texting one another, one of which is having an extramarital affair with the other, cryptically talking about “insurance” against a Trump presidency. That text between these two agents was delivered on August 15, 2016.

You also have Andrew Weissmann, Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s top lieutenant, voicing praise for then-acting Attorney General Sally Yates for refusing to enact President Trump’s executive order on immigration, which got her fired. Then, there’s another DOJ official, Bruce Ohr, who was demoted for meeting the authors of the infamous and unverified Trump dossier, Fusion GPS; Ohr’s wife, Nellie, worked for that firm during the 2016 election. If there is nothing rotten at the FBI, then it’s credibility is definitely in question, something that The Wall Street Journal’s editorial board mentioned in their op-ed about this mess.

The two FBI agents at the center of the firestorm right now, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page are obviously no longer working with Mueller; Strzok was removed in August, while Page’s assignment with the investigation has already ended and she has been transferred elsewhere. Still, from this past summer to now—and we’re just learning about these 10,000 text messages between the two. The Journal makes it clear that there appears to be mounting evidence of election meddling emanating from the bureau:  ..."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/12/15/wsj-theres-mounting-evidence-of-election-meddling-coming-from-the-fbi-n2422639

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Mueller is either Colonel Klink or he's fill in the blank _____________  .  Over here Colonel Klink-Mueller.
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 1:14:32 AM EST
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What part does Holder play in all of this? By sticking his nose into this and acting all appalled and outraged by Trumps actions, he's implicating himself. Although frequently misquoted, I believe the line The lady doth protest too much, methinks may be appropriate here.

It is possible that he's simply a fool that doesn't have a clue what he's talking about?
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 2:44:53 AM EST
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What part does Holder play in all of this? By sticking his nose into this and acting all appalled and outraged by Trumps actions, he's implicating himself. Although frequently misquoted, I believe the line The lady doth protest too much, methinks may be appropriate here.

It is possible that he's simply a fool that doesn't have a clue what he's talking about?
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All his buddies at DOJ/FBI are getting exposed & will either be forced into retirement, prosecuted, or both.

If another special prosecutor gets appointed under the same rules that Mueller got appointed (start investigating this, but then dig into whoever & whatever you want), Holder might end up in prison with all his buddies...
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 2:51:25 AM EST
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All his buddies at DOJ/FBI are getting exposed & will either be forced into retirement, prosecuted, or both.

If another special prosecutor gets appointed under the same rules that Mueller got appointed (start investigating this, but then dig into whoever & whatever you want), Holder might end up in prison with all his buddies...
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From your mouth to Gods ear.
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 2:53:25 AM EST
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Thomas Paine
@Thomas1774Paine

Folks wanted to play games trying to bully us at True Pundit.

Now you're going to see how far we can reach.

Follow the rabbit?

Hell, we dug the F'n rabbit hole.

https://twitter.com/Thomas1774Paine
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 3:35:02 AM EST
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Russia.... lol. Pathetic.

Keep on though, the more you cling to this the worse you people look.
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 7:42:57 AM EST
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Link Posted: 12/16/2017 7:54:54 AM EST
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I love this silly idea that "Mueller doesn't have X, because it would have leaked by now".

Did we know about Papadopoulos before he plead guilty?  Any idea what his cooperation is leading to?

Did we know about Flynn before he plead guilty?  No word that he was cooperating and them "Boom!":  Guilty plea.  Any idea what his cooperation is leading to?

It took months for the execution of the search warrant at Manafort's residence to go public.

If you look at all of the court documents that have been filed thus far you can see the names of roughly half of Mueller's team.  Any idea what the rest have been working on?
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Link Posted: 12/16/2017 7:56:06 AM EST
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What part does Holder play in all of this? By sticking his nose into this and acting all appalled and outraged by Trumps actions, he's implicating himself. Although frequently misquoted, I believe the line The lady doth protest too much, methinks may be appropriate here.

It is possible that he's simply a fool that doesn't have a clue what he's talking about?
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Maybe BS and TS are right. They really do have inside info. Holder also has inside info and much like BS and TS he also wants to be an asshole and show the world he’s on the inside with a bunch of assholes?

Or, maybe not but it still won’t change my main assumptions above.
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 7:56:17 AM EST
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So, T_S and B_S, what do you guys think should happen if the Fusion GPS dossier was the basis for the secret court warrant approval?
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They'll realize their dreams of Trump being impeached are hopeless and start supporting Lieawatha's run for the presidency in 2020???
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 8:12:45 AM EST
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Yup. Like we meddle in elections all over the globe.

Now, collusion.....
He also doesn't say which side he believes they meddled for.
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Here's some more lol for ya, enjoy watching your treasonous idols drop like flies. The worm has turned, embrace the exposure of corruption.

FBI sources said Wray acknowledges that certain media with solid sources in the FBI's Washington D.C. headquarters are preparing to print additional revelations about McCabe's tenure in the hierarchy of the FBI.
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 8:17:36 AM EST
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Here's some more lol for ya, enjoy watching your treasonous idols drop like flies. The worm has turned, embrace the exposure of corruption.

FBI sources said Wray acknowledges that certain media with solid sources in the FBI's Washington D.C. headquarters are preparing to print additional revelations about McCabe's tenure in the hierarchy of the FBI.
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That sentence just screams quality journalism.  "We've got a source that says that Wray says this other source has good information about [nonsense]..."

ETA:  I'm guessing it's one of the *Pundit websites...
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 8:19:27 AM EST
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That sentence just screams quality journalism.  "We've got a source that says that Wray says this other source has good information about [nonsense]..."
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Here's some more lol for ya, enjoy watching your treasonous idols drop like flies. The worm has turned, embrace the exposure of corruption.

FBI sources said Wray acknowledges that certain media with solid sources in the FBI's Washington D.C. headquarters are preparing to print additional revelations about McCabe's tenure in the hierarchy of the FBI.
That sentence just screams quality journalism.  "We've got a source that says that Wray says this other source has good information about [nonsense]..."
Do you think McCabe has been fair to Trump or is he a democrat corrupt fucking hack?

I lean HEAVILY towards the latter based on Strzok's emails.............and among other things also.

I wouldn't trust McCabe any more than I would trust that "FISA" is fair and equitable.
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 8:22:10 AM EST
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For some events there's enough data points to draw a reasonable conclusion.  For others, there aren't.  A single text message devoid of context is the latter.

Feel free to jump to whatever conclusions you'd like.
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Catching up from 130, had to comment on this nugget and while it's been covered quite competently I have to add to the chorus.

There is plenty of context. There isn't even any room to infer a single thing in that single text message. You know why?

BECAUSE THE HUNDREDS OF OTHER TEXTS PROVIDE THE CONTEXT.

There are no other conclusions to jump to on this. Again you_guys have convinced exactly zero people of your fantasy. Keep up the shitty work though.
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 8:25:52 AM EST
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That sentence just screams quality journalism.  "We've got a source that says that Wray says this other source has good information about [nonsense]..."

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Here's some more lol for ya, enjoy watching your treasonous idols drop like flies. The worm has turned, embrace the exposure of corruption.

FBI sources said Wray acknowledges that certain media with solid sources in the FBI's Washington D.C. headquarters are preparing to print additional revelations about McCabe's tenure in the hierarchy of the FBI.
That sentence just screams quality journalism.  "We've got a source that says that Wray says this other source has good information about [nonsense]..."

ETA:  I'm guessing it's one of the *Pundit websites...
Coming from the guy who's literally linked to hundreds of anti Trump articles that relied solely on un-named sources.......
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 8:27:15 AM EST
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Are you  a Noel prize physicist only at Christmas time? Do you go around and sing Christmas carols?
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I would rate the probability that he is an attorney as the same probability that I'm a Noel prize winning physicist who moonlights as a neurosurgeon on the weekends.
Are you  a Noel prize physicist only at Christmas time? Do you go around and sing Christmas carols?
I'm neither physicist nor physician.
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 8:28:58 AM EST
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Coming from the guy who's literally linked to hundreds of anti Trump articles that relied solely on un-named sources.......
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Here's some more lol for ya, enjoy watching your treasonous idols drop like flies. The worm has turned, embrace the exposure of corruption.

FBI sources said Wray acknowledges that certain media with solid sources in the FBI's Washington D.C. headquarters are preparing to print additional revelations about McCabe's tenure in the hierarchy of the FBI.
That sentence just screams quality journalism.  "We've got a source that says that Wray says this other source has good information about [nonsense]..."

ETA:  I'm guessing it's one of the *Pundit websites...
Coming from the guy who's literally linked to hundreds of anti Trump articles that relied solely on un-named sources.......
Yes there's exactly zero difference between the New York Times and someone linking to the blog "TrueAmericanPunditEagle.su"  
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 8:32:14 AM EST
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Yes there's exactly zero difference between the New York Times and someone linking to the blog "TrueAmericanPunditEagle.su"  
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Here's some more lol for ya, enjoy watching your treasonous idols drop like flies. The worm has turned, embrace the exposure of corruption.

FBI sources said Wray acknowledges that certain media with solid sources in the FBI's Washington D.C. headquarters are preparing to print additional revelations about McCabe's tenure in the hierarchy of the FBI.
That sentence just screams quality journalism.  "We've got a source that says that Wray says this other source has good information about [nonsense]..."

ETA:  I'm guessing it's one of the *Pundit websites...
Coming from the guy who's literally linked to hundreds of anti Trump articles that relied solely on un-named sources.......
Yes there's exactly zero difference between the New York Times and someone linking to the blog "TrueAmericanPunditEagle.su"  
Or CNN or NBC.

At least you didn't deny posting links to articles with only anonymous sources....
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 8:35:34 AM EST
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That sentence just screams quality journalism.  "We've got a source that says that Wray says this other source has good information about [nonsense]..."

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Here's some more lol for ya, enjoy watching your treasonous idols drop like flies. The worm has turned, embrace the exposure of corruption.

FBI sources said Wray acknowledges that certain media with solid sources in the FBI's Washington D.C. headquarters are preparing to print additional revelations about McCabe's tenure in the hierarchy of the FBI.
That sentence just screams quality journalism.  "We've got a source that says that Wray says this other source has good information about [nonsense]..."

ETA:  I'm guessing it's one of the *Pundit websites...
Yet it's perfectly legitimate to reference anonymous sources when they come out of NYTimes or Washington Post pundit sites. Your obvious bias is obvious.
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 8:36:11 AM EST
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Or CNN or NBC.

At least you didn't deny posting links to articles with only anonymous sources....
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Here's some more lol for ya, enjoy watching your treasonous idols drop like flies. The worm has turned, embrace the exposure of corruption.

FBI sources said Wray acknowledges that certain media with solid sources in the FBI's Washington D.C. headquarters are preparing to print additional revelations about McCabe's tenure in the hierarchy of the FBI.
That sentence just screams quality journalism.  "We've got a source that says that Wray says this other source has good information about [nonsense]..."

ETA:  I'm guessing it's one of the *Pundit websites...
Coming from the guy who's literally linked to hundreds of anti Trump articles that relied solely on un-named sources.......
Yes there's exactly zero difference between the New York Times and someone linking to the blog "TrueAmericanPunditEagle.su"  
Or CNN or NBC.

At least you didn't deny posting links to articles with only anonymous sources....
It's becoming obvious that all of this is just Russian meddling

BS - Do you, by chance, happen to speak Russian?
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 8:37:48 AM EST
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It's worth less than a door stop.  He's right that the deluded Dumbazzes likely used it as justification to spy on Trump to get Trump.

Carry on looking for that pie in the sky.

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If the Trump-Russia investigation is truly a witch hunt, as Trump says, the FBI's application for a FISA surveillance warrant would prove it. Why won't his Administration allow Congress to see it? Among the key allegations made by Trump's allies is that the infamous DNC-funded opposition research dossier provided the basis for the FISA warrant that reportedly allowed surveillance against former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page and potentially others. To obtain a FISA warrant on a U.S. person, investigators must submit evidence to a judge that demonstrates a reasonable basis to believe that the intended target of the surveillance is an "agent of a foreign power." The FISA application would reveal exactly what evidence the FBI relied on to suspect that people within Trump's orbit were in cahoots with Russia.

If the Steele dossier was the principal evidence presented in the FISA warrant application, it would vindicate Trump and his allies claims that the Russia investigation was just a political witch hunt. This is why the FISA warrant application is of such keen interest to Trump's defenders.

Last week, Rep. Jim Jordan, a Trump ally, grilled FBI Director Chris Wray about the dossier's role in the FBI's FISA warrant application, and demanded that he allow Congress access to it. Wray refused, saying it was classified. Yet, there's one person who has the unchecked power to declassify anything he likes, including the FBI's FISA warrant application  Wray's boss, President Donald Trump. It's baffling that he refuses to do so. Trump has also made much hay of the Obama Administration's "unmasking" of Trump associates whose conversations were picked up in routine surveillance of Russian foreign intelligence targets. Yet, here again the Trump Administration has resisted Congressional requests for access to the details of which Obama officials requested the unmasking and their basis for doing so. By ordering that the FISA application and the unmasking details be made public, he could prove that the Russia investigation was really the political witch hunt he claims. So, why doesn't he do it? If it's just the dossier, that the FISA warrant is based on, there's nothing classified about that. Which suggests that there is more to it. If it's really a political witch hunt, Trump could be vindicated tomorrow. Trump has the power to get to the truth of the matter, yet is actively resisting doing so. The only reasonable explanation for Trump's resistance is that he knows that it would reveal that the FBI had really good reasons to suspect something shady was going on between Trump's team and Russia.
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 8:38:15 AM EST
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Or CNN or NBC.

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Don't forget ABC.

Brian Ross is still working his anonymous sources!
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 8:45:20 AM EST
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The only reasonable explanation for Trump's resistance is that he knows that it would reveal that the FBI had really good reasons to suspect something shady was going on between Trump's team and Russia.
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That's hardly the only explanation.
Here's another:
The "investigation" isn't turning out the way the "investigators" hoped it would. So far there have been more FBI/DOJ casualties (with more on the way, it seems) than former members of the Trump team who have been hit. It's quite possible that someone might have concluded that releasing the application isn't necessary, yet.
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 8:50:34 AM EST
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Yes there's exactly zero difference between the New York Times and someone linking to the blog "TrueAmericanPunditEagle.su"  
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Here's some more lol for ya, enjoy watching your treasonous idols drop like flies. The worm has turned, embrace the exposure of corruption.

FBI sources said Wray acknowledges that certain media with solid sources in the FBI's Washington D.C. headquarters are preparing to print additional revelations about McCabe's tenure in the hierarchy of the FBI.
That sentence just screams quality journalism.  "We've got a source that says that Wray says this other source has good information about [nonsense]..."

ETA:  I'm guessing it's one of the *Pundit websites...
Coming from the guy who's literally linked to hundreds of anti Trump articles that relied solely on un-named sources.......
Yes there's exactly zero difference between the New York Times and someone linking to the blog "TrueAmericanPunditEagle.su"  
My guess is the NYT's lies more.
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 8:51:41 AM EST
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If the Trump-Russia investigation is truly a witch hunt, as Trump says, the FBI's application for a FISA surveillance warrant would prove it. Why won't his Administration allow Congress to see it? Among the key allegations made by Trump's allies is that the infamous DNC-funded opposition research dossier provided the basis for the FISA warrant that reportedly allowed surveillance against former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page and potentially others. To obtain a FISA warrant on a U.S. person, investigators must submit evidence to a judge that demonstrates a reasonable basis to believe that the intended target of the surveillance is an "agent of a foreign power." The FISA application would reveal exactly what evidence the FBI relied on to suspect that people within Trump's orbit were in cahoots with Russia.

If the Steele dossier was the principal evidence presented in the FISA warrant application, it would vindicate Trump and his allies claims that the Russia investigation was just a political witch hunt. This is why the FISA warrant application is of such keen interest to Trump's defenders.

Last week, Rep. Jim Jordan, a Trump ally, grilled FBI Director Chris Wray about the dossier's role in the FBI's FISA warrant application, and demanded that he allow Congress access to it. Wray refused, saying it was classified. Yet, there's one person who has the unchecked power to declassify anything he likes, including the FBI's FISA warrant application  Wray's boss, President Donald Trump. It's baffling that he refuses to do so. Trump has also made much hay of the Obama Administration's "unmasking" of Trump associates whose conversations were picked up in routine surveillance of Russian foreign intelligence targets. Yet, here again the Trump Administration has resisted Congressional requests for access to the details of which Obama officials requested the unmasking and their basis for doing so. By ordering that the FISA application and the unmasking details be made public, he could prove that the Russia investigation was really the political witch hunt he claims. So, why doesn't he do it? If it's just the dossier, that the FISA warrant is based on, there's nothing classified about that. Which suggests that there is more to it. If it's really a political witch hunt, Trump could be vindicated tomorrow. Trump has the power to get to the truth of the matter, yet is actively resisting doing so. The only reasonable explanation for Trump's resistance is that he knows that it would reveal that the FBI had really good reasons to suspect something shady was going on between Trump's team and Russia.
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I think the dossier is being treated as evidence at this point. Trump could do a lot of things that wouldn't be wise either legally or good for optics, such as fire Meuller. Again, some things have to wait their turn but I'd bet it will be made public eventually.
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 8:52:04 AM EST
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That's hardly the only explanation.
Here's another:
The "investigation" isn't turning out the way the "investigators" hoped it would. So far there have been more FBI/DOJ casualties (with more on the way, it seems) than former members of the Trump team who have been hit. It's quite possible that someone might have concluded that releasing the application isn't necessary, yet.
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The only reasonable explanation for Trump's resistance is that he knows that it would reveal that the FBI had really good reasons to suspect something shady was going on between Trump's team and Russia.
That's hardly the only explanation.
Here's another:
The "investigation" isn't turning out the way the "investigators" hoped it would. So far there have been more FBI/DOJ casualties (with more on the way, it seems) than former members of the Trump team who have been hit. It's quite possible that someone might have concluded that releasing the application isn't necessary, yet.
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This whole thread has been your 'wishcasting'
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 9:02:44 AM EST
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That sentence just screams quality journalism.  "We've got a source that says that Wray says this other source has good information about [nonsense]..."

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Here's some more lol for ya, enjoy watching your treasonous idols drop like flies. The worm has turned, embrace the exposure of corruption.

FBI sources said Wray acknowledges that certain media with solid sources in the FBI's Washington D.C. headquarters are preparing to print additional revelations about McCabe's tenure in the hierarchy of the FBI.
That sentence just screams quality journalism.  "We've got a source that says that Wray says this other source has good information about [nonsense]..."

ETA:  I'm guessing it's one of the *Pundit websites...
Wait, you guys don't like anonymous sources and biased sites anymore?????

We've already seen one text that points to mccabe being a treasonous criminal, so I tend to think there is credence to this.  The FBI has only released about 300-400 texts out of the 10,000 so far - seems they are trying to selectively cover stuff up.  Then again, they were ok with hitlery deciding which emails she'd release and which ones she could delete.
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Wait, you guys don't like anonymous sources and biased site anymore?????

We've already seen one text that points to mccabe being a treasonous criminal, so I tend to think there is credence to this.  The FBI has only released about 300-400 texts out of the 10,000 so far - seems they are trying to selectively cover stuff up.  Then again, they were ok with hitlery deciding which emails she'd release and which ones she could delete.
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Here's some more lol for ya, enjoy watching your treasonous idols drop like flies. The worm has turned, embrace the exposure of corruption.

FBI sources said Wray acknowledges that certain media with solid sources in the FBI's Washington D.C. headquarters are preparing to print additional revelations about McCabe's tenure in the hierarchy of the FBI.
That sentence just screams quality journalism.  "We've got a source that says that Wray says this other source has good information about [nonsense]..."

ETA:  I'm guessing it's one of the *Pundit websites...
Wait, you guys don't like anonymous sources and biased site anymore?????

We've already seen one text that points to mccabe being a treasonous criminal, so I tend to think there is credence to this.  The FBI has only released about 300-400 texts out of the 10,000 so far - seems they are trying to selectively cover stuff up.  Then again, they were ok with hitlery deciding which emails she'd release and which ones she could delete.
Good point about the texts that have been released. I'd imagine the really damning texts are still in the pocket.
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If the Trump-Russia investigation is truly a witch hunt, as Trump says, the FBI's application for a FISA surveillance warrant would prove it. Why won't his Administration allow Congress to see it? Among the key allegations made by Trump's allies is that the infamous DNC-funded opposition research dossier provided the basis for the FISA warrant that reportedly allowed surveillance against former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page and potentially others. To obtain a FISA warrant on a U.S. person, investigators must submit evidence to a judge that demonstrates a reasonable basis to believe that the intended target of the surveillance is an "agent of a foreign power." The FISA application would reveal exactly what evidence the FBI relied on to suspect that people within Trump's orbit were in cahoots with Russia.

If the Steele dossier was the principal evidence presented in the FISA warrant application, it would vindicate Trump and his allies claims that the Russia investigation was just a political witch hunt. This is why the FISA warrant application is of such keen interest to Trump's defenders.

Last week, Rep. Jim Jordan, a Trump ally, grilled FBI Director Chris Wray about the dossier's role in the FBI's FISA warrant application, and demanded that he allow Congress access to it. Wray refused, saying it was classified. Yet, there's one person who has the unchecked power to declassify anything he likes, including the FBI's FISA warrant application  Wray's boss, President Donald Trump. It's baffling that he refuses to do so. Trump has also made much hay of the Obama Administration's "unmasking" of Trump associates whose conversations were picked up in routine surveillance of Russian foreign intelligence targets. Yet, here again the Trump Administration has resisted Congressional requests for access to the details of which Obama officials requested the unmasking and their basis for doing so. By ordering that the FISA application and the unmasking details be made public, he could prove that the Russia investigation was really the political witch hunt he claims. So, why doesn't he do it? If it's just the dossier, that the FISA warrant is based on, there's nothing classified about that. Which suggests that there is more to it. If it's really a political witch hunt, Trump could be vindicated tomorrow. Trump has the power to get to the truth of the matter, yet is actively resisting doing so. The only reasonable explanation for Trump's resistance is that he knows that it would reveal that the FBI had really good reasons to suspect something shady was going on between Trump's team and Russia.
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It's worth less than a door stop.  He's right that the deluded Dumbazzes likely used it as justification to spy on Trump to get Trump.

Carry on looking for that pie in the sky.

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If the Trump-Russia investigation is truly a witch hunt, as Trump says, the FBI's application for a FISA surveillance warrant would prove it. Why won't his Administration allow Congress to see it? Among the key allegations made by Trump's allies is that the infamous DNC-funded opposition research dossier provided the basis for the FISA warrant that reportedly allowed surveillance against former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page and potentially others. To obtain a FISA warrant on a U.S. person, investigators must submit evidence to a judge that demonstrates a reasonable basis to believe that the intended target of the surveillance is an "agent of a foreign power." The FISA application would reveal exactly what evidence the FBI relied on to suspect that people within Trump's orbit were in cahoots with Russia.

If the Steele dossier was the principal evidence presented in the FISA warrant application, it would vindicate Trump and his allies claims that the Russia investigation was just a political witch hunt. This is why the FISA warrant application is of such keen interest to Trump's defenders.

Last week, Rep. Jim Jordan, a Trump ally, grilled FBI Director Chris Wray about the dossier's role in the FBI's FISA warrant application, and demanded that he allow Congress access to it. Wray refused, saying it was classified. Yet, there's one person who has the unchecked power to declassify anything he likes, including the FBI's FISA warrant application  Wray's boss, President Donald Trump. It's baffling that he refuses to do so. Trump has also made much hay of the Obama Administration's "unmasking" of Trump associates whose conversations were picked up in routine surveillance of Russian foreign intelligence targets. Yet, here again the Trump Administration has resisted Congressional requests for access to the details of which Obama officials requested the unmasking and their basis for doing so. By ordering that the FISA application and the unmasking details be made public, he could prove that the Russia investigation was really the political witch hunt he claims. So, why doesn't he do it? If it's just the dossier, that the FISA warrant is based on, there's nothing classified about that. Which suggests that there is more to it. If it's really a political witch hunt, Trump could be vindicated tomorrow. Trump has the power to get to the truth of the matter, yet is actively resisting doing so. The only reasonable explanation for Trump's resistance is that he knows that it would reveal that the FBI had really good reasons to suspect something shady was going on between Trump's team and Russia.
Or he KNOWS it is a witch hunt and is allowing it to play out to expose ALL the treasonous conspirators
in the FBI and DOJ.   Exactly as we're watching unfold before our eyes.
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 9:39:30 AM EST
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Yes there's exactly zero difference between the New York Times and someone linking to the blog "TrueAmericanPunditEagle.su"  
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Here's some more lol for ya, enjoy watching your treasonous idols drop like flies. The worm has turned, embrace the exposure of corruption.

FBI sources said Wray acknowledges that certain media with solid sources in the FBI's Washington D.C. headquarters are preparing to print additional revelations about McCabe's tenure in the hierarchy of the FBI.
That sentence just screams quality journalism.  "We've got a source that says that Wray says this other source has good information about [nonsense]..."

ETA:  I'm guessing it's one of the *Pundit websites...
Coming from the guy who's literally linked to hundreds of anti Trump articles that relied solely on un-named sources.......
Yes there's exactly zero difference between the New York Times and someone linking to the blog "TrueAmericanPunditEagle.su"  
Unnamed/unverified sources are bullshit no matter who pushes them.

Does the fact that it is the NYT automatically make what an unnamed/unverified source says more accurate or credible than if a less reputable entity publishes it?
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It's worth less than a door stop.  He's right that the deluded Dumbazzes likely used it as justification to spy on Trump to get Trump.

Carry on looking for that pie in the sky.

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If the Trump-Russia investigation is truly a witch hunt, as Trump says, the FBI's application for a FISA surveillance warrant would prove it. Why won't his Administration allow Congress to see it? Among the key allegations made by Trump's allies is that the infamous DNC-funded opposition research dossier provided the basis for the FISA warrant that reportedly allowed surveillance against former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page and potentially others. To obtain a FISA warrant on a U.S. person, investigators must submit evidence to a judge that demonstrates a reasonable basis to believe that the intended target of the surveillance is an "agent of a foreign power." The FISA application would reveal exactly what evidence the FBI relied on to suspect that people within Trump's orbit were in cahoots with Russia.

If the Steele dossier was the principal evidence presented in the FISA warrant application, it would vindicate Trump and his allies claims that the Russia investigation was just a political witch hunt. This is why the FISA warrant application is of such keen interest to Trump's defenders.

Last week, Rep. Jim Jordan, a Trump ally, grilled FBI Director Chris Wray about the dossier's role in the FBI's FISA warrant application, and demanded that he allow Congress access to it. Wray refused, saying it was classified. Yet, there's one person who has the unchecked power to declassify anything he likes, including the FBI's FISA warrant application  Wray's boss, President Donald Trump. It's baffling that he refuses to do so. Trump has also made much hay of the Obama Administration's "unmasking" of Trump associates whose conversations were picked up in routine surveillance of Russian foreign intelligence targets. Yet, here again the Trump Administration has resisted Congressional requests for access to the details of which Obama officials requested the unmasking and their basis for doing so. By ordering that the FISA application and the unmasking details be made public, he could prove that the Russia investigation was really the political witch hunt he claims. So, why doesn't he do it? If it's just the dossier, that the FISA warrant is based on, there's nothing classified about that. Which suggests that there is more to it. If it's really a political witch hunt, Trump could be vindicated tomorrow. Trump has the power to get to the truth of the matter, yet is actively resisting doing so. The only reasonable explanation for Trump's resistance is that he knows that it would reveal that the FBI had really good reasons to suspect something shady was going on between Trump's team and Russia.
Or he KNOWS it is a witch hunt and is allowing it to play out to expose ALL the treasonous conspirators
in the FBI and DOJ.   Exactly as we're watching unfold before our eyes.
That's not the impression any rational observer would get out of the Presidents course of actions....

But 6d chess or whatever mental gymnastics it takes to MAGA, right?
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 9:50:32 AM EST
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Why would ANYONE believe the NYT's without independent corroboration!!??
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 9:58:01 AM EST
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CNN says Mueller's team will meet with Trump's attorney's as early as next week:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/15/politics/trump-lawyers-special-counsel-meeting/index.html?sr=twCNN121517trump-lawyers-special-counsel-meeting0500PMStory

We'll probably hear lots about this meeting after Trump's idiot attorneys loudly discuss the matter while eating lunch at a popular DC restaurant next door to the Post...
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you know, linking to cnn really makes you va folks look desperate, it is really sad, fake news, leftwing propaganda linking sad

I watched about 3 minutes of msnbc the other day, and was appalled by the total bias, and attacking fox news, not the poster here, for being fake news

at least fox will throw in a liberal shill once in awhile for balance

and asked before, what do you nova guys really do for a living?
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 9:58:37 AM EST
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Maybe you can get your sources to dig into this for you?
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I would rate the probability that he is an attorney as the same probability that I'm a Noel prize winning physicist who moonlights as a neurosurgeon on the weekends.
Are you  a Noel prize physicist only at Christmas time? Do you go around and sing Christmas carols?
Maybe you can get your sources to dig into this for you?
can't, you know they are super secret
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 10:06:39 AM EST
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That's not the impression any rational observer would get out of the Presidents course of actions....

But 6d chess or whatever mental gymnastics it takes to MAGA, right?
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It's worth less than a door stop.  He's right that the deluded Dumbazzes likely used it as justification to spy on Trump to get Trump.

Carry on looking for that pie in the sky.

http://oi65.tinypic.com/ndlem8.jpg
If the Trump-Russia investigation is truly a witch hunt, as Trump says, the FBI's application for a FISA surveillance warrant would prove it. Why won't his Administration allow Congress to see it? Among the key allegations made by Trump's allies is that the infamous DNC-funded opposition research dossier provided the basis for the FISA warrant that reportedly allowed surveillance against former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page and potentially others. To obtain a FISA warrant on a U.S. person, investigators must submit evidence to a judge that demonstrates a reasonable basis to believe that the intended target of the surveillance is an "agent of a foreign power." The FISA application would reveal exactly what evidence the FBI relied on to suspect that people within Trump's orbit were in cahoots with Russia.

If the Steele dossier was the principal evidence presented in the FISA warrant application, it would vindicate Trump and his allies claims that the Russia investigation was just a political witch hunt. This is why the FISA warrant application is of such keen interest to Trump's defenders.

Last week, Rep. Jim Jordan, a Trump ally, grilled FBI Director Chris Wray about the dossier's role in the FBI's FISA warrant application, and demanded that he allow Congress access to it. Wray refused, saying it was classified. Yet, there's one person who has the unchecked power to declassify anything he likes, including the FBI's FISA warrant application  Wray's boss, President Donald Trump. It's baffling that he refuses to do so. Trump has also made much hay of the Obama Administration's "unmasking" of Trump associates whose conversations were picked up in routine surveillance of Russian foreign intelligence targets. Yet, here again the Trump Administration has resisted Congressional requests for access to the details of which Obama officials requested the unmasking and their basis for doing so. By ordering that the FISA application and the unmasking details be made public, he could prove that the Russia investigation was really the political witch hunt he claims. So, why doesn't he do it? If it's just the dossier, that the FISA warrant is based on, there's nothing classified about that. Which suggests that there is more to it. If it's really a political witch hunt, Trump could be vindicated tomorrow. Trump has the power to get to the truth of the matter, yet is actively resisting doing so. The only reasonable explanation for Trump's resistance is that he knows that it would reveal that the FBI had really good reasons to suspect something shady was going on between Trump's team and Russia.
Or he KNOWS it is a witch hunt and is allowing it to play out to expose ALL the treasonous conspirators
in the FBI and DOJ.   Exactly as we're watching unfold before our eyes.
That's not the impression any rational observer would get out of the Presidents course of actions....

But 6d chess or whatever mental gymnastics it takes to MAGA, right?
Well tell us your impression and we'll see which one of you turns out to be more "rational" at the end of the day when all the lights are turned on and we see all the scurrying cockroaches exposed.
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 10:09:43 AM EST
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"WSJ: There's Mounting Evidence of 2016 Election Meddling Coming From the FBI"

"There is something rotten at the Federal Bureau of Investigation. I mean all of this is just absurd. We have two FBI agents texting one another, one of which is having an extramarital affair with the other, cryptically talking about “insurance” against a Trump presidency. That text between these two agents was delivered on August 15, 2016.

You also have Andrew Weissmann, Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s top lieutenant, voicing praise for then-acting Attorney General Sally Yates for refusing to enact President Trump’s executive order on immigration, which got her fired. Then, there’s another DOJ official, Bruce Ohr, who was demoted for meeting the authors of the infamous and unverified Trump dossier, Fusion GPS; Ohr’s wife, Nellie, worked for that firm during the 2016 election. If there is nothing rotten at the FBI, then it’s credibility is definitely in question, something that The Wall Street Journal’s editorial board mentioned in their op-ed about this mess.

The two FBI agents at the center of the firestorm right now, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page are obviously no longer working with Mueller; Strzok was removed in August, while Page’s assignment with the investigation has already ended and she has been transferred elsewhere. Still, from this past summer to now—and we’re just learning about these 10,000 text messages between the two. The Journal makes it clear that there appears to be mounting evidence of election meddling emanating from the bureau:  ..."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/12/15/wsj-theres-mounting-evidence-of-election-meddling-coming-from-the-fbi-n2422639

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msnbc disagrees with wsj, they say that the fbi folks, and all the fed.gov employees have the right to have political opinions

maybe they should have kept them to themselves rather than try to unseat a President when their fav cankled cunt lost, because she is a cankled cunt
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 10:20:41 AM EST
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you know, linking to cnn really makes you va folks look desperate, it is really sad, fake news, leftwing propaganda linking sad

I watched about 3 minutes of msnbc the other day, and was appalled by the total bias, and attacking fox news, not the poster here, for being fake news

at least fox will throw in a liberal shill once in awhile for balance

and asked before, what do you nova guys really do for a living?
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CNN says Mueller's team will meet with Trump's attorney's as early as next week:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/15/politics/trump-lawyers-special-counsel-meeting/index.html?sr=twCNN121517trump-lawyers-special-counsel-meeting0500PMStory

We'll probably hear lots about this meeting after Trump's idiot attorneys loudly discuss the matter while eating lunch at a popular DC restaurant next door to the Post...
you know, linking to cnn really makes you va folks look desperate, it is really sad, fake news, leftwing propaganda linking sad

I watched about 3 minutes of msnbc the other day, and was appalled by the total bias, and attacking fox news, not the poster here, for being fake news

at least fox will throw in a liberal shill once in awhile for balance

and asked before, what do you nova guys really do for a living?
They are .gov pogues who love them some government cheese.

Did they post the article from the WP referenced here yet?

Another-errant-anti-trump-hit-piece-from-the-post

Russia, Russia, Russia!
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 10:29:55 AM EST
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That's not the impression any rational observer would get out of the Presidents course of actions....

But 6d chess or whatever mental gymnastics it takes to MAGA, right?
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It's worth less than a door stop.  He's right that the deluded Dumbazzes likely used it as justification to spy on Trump to get Trump.

Carry on looking for that pie in the sky.

http://oi65.tinypic.com/ndlem8.jpg
If the Trump-Russia investigation is truly a witch hunt, as Trump says, the FBI's application for a FISA surveillance warrant would prove it. Why won't his Administration allow Congress to see it? Among the key allegations made by Trump's allies is that the infamous DNC-funded opposition research dossier provided the basis for the FISA warrant that reportedly allowed surveillance against former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page and potentially others. To obtain a FISA warrant on a U.S. person, investigators must submit evidence to a judge that demonstrates a reasonable basis to believe that the intended target of the surveillance is an "agent of a foreign power." The FISA application would reveal exactly what evidence the FBI relied on to suspect that people within Trump's orbit were in cahoots with Russia.

If the Steele dossier was the principal evidence presented in the FISA warrant application, it would vindicate Trump and his allies claims that the Russia investigation was just a political witch hunt. This is why the FISA warrant application is of such keen interest to Trump's defenders.

Last week, Rep. Jim Jordan, a Trump ally, grilled FBI Director Chris Wray about the dossier's role in the FBI's FISA warrant application, and demanded that he allow Congress access to it. Wray refused, saying it was classified. Yet, there's one person who has the unchecked power to declassify anything he likes, including the FBI's FISA warrant application  Wray's boss, President Donald Trump. It's baffling that he refuses to do so. Trump has also made much hay of the Obama Administration's "unmasking" of Trump associates whose conversations were picked up in routine surveillance of Russian foreign intelligence targets. Yet, here again the Trump Administration has resisted Congressional requests for access to the details of which Obama officials requested the unmasking and their basis for doing so. By ordering that the FISA application and the unmasking details be made public, he could prove that the Russia investigation was really the political witch hunt he claims. So, why doesn't he do it? If it's just the dossier, that the FISA warrant is based on, there's nothing classified about that. Which suggests that there is more to it. If it's really a political witch hunt, Trump could be vindicated tomorrow. Trump has the power to get to the truth of the matter, yet is actively resisting doing so. The only reasonable explanation for Trump's resistance is that he knows that it would reveal that the FBI had really good reasons to suspect something shady was going on between Trump's team and Russia.
Or he KNOWS it is a witch hunt and is allowing it to play out to expose ALL the treasonous conspirators
in the FBI and DOJ.   Exactly as we're watching unfold before our eyes.
That's not the impression any rational observer would get out of the Presidents course of actions....

But 6d chess or whatever mental gymnastics it takes to MAGA, right?
Do I need to list ALL the names of the traitors that have been exposed in the last two weeks.

You probably haven't seen the names due to watching CNN
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It's all the news they see fit to print!
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It's all the news they see fit to print!
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Why would ANYONE believe the NYT's without independent corroboration!!??
It's all the news they see fit to print!
Yup.
Link Posted: 12/16/2017 10:50:58 AM EST
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Do the underscores not work weekends?
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It's worth less than a door stop.  He's right that the deluded Dumbazzes likely used it as justification to spy on Trump to get Trump.

Carry on looking for that pie in the sky.

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If the Trump-Russia investigation is truly a witch hunt, as Trump says, the FBI's application for a FISA surveillance warrant would prove it. Why won't his Administration allow Congress to see it? Among the key allegations made by Trump's allies is that the infamous DNC-funded opposition research dossier provided the basis for the FISA warrant that reportedly allowed surveillance against former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page and potentially others. To obtain a FISA warrant on a U.S. person, investigators must submit evidence to a judge that demonstrates a reasonable basis to believe that the intended target of the surveillance is an "agent of a foreign power." The FISA application would reveal exactly what evidence the FBI relied on to suspect that people within Trump's orbit were in cahoots with Russia.

If the Steele dossier was the principal evidence presented in the FISA warrant application, it would vindicate Trump and his allies claims that the Russia investigation was just a political witch hunt. This is why the FISA warrant application is of such keen interest to Trump's defenders.

Last week, Rep. Jim Jordan, a Trump ally, grilled FBI Director Chris Wray about the dossier's role in the FBI's FISA warrant application, and demanded that he allow Congress access to it. Wray refused, saying it was classified. Yet, there's one person who has the unchecked power to declassify anything he likes, including the FBI's FISA warrant application  Wray's boss, President Donald Trump. It's baffling that he refuses to do so. Trump has also made much hay of the Obama Administration's "unmasking" of Trump associates whose conversations were picked up in routine surveillance of Russian foreign intelligence targets. Yet, here again the Trump Administration has resisted Congressional requests for access to the details of which Obama officials requested the unmasking and their basis for doing so. By ordering that the FISA application and the unmasking details be made public, he could prove that the Russia investigation was really the political witch hunt he claims. So, why doesn't he do it? If it's just the dossier, that the FISA warrant is based on, there's nothing classified about that. Which suggests that there is more to it. If it's really a political witch hunt, Trump could be vindicated tomorrow. Trump has the power to get to the truth of the matter, yet is actively resisting doing so. The only reasonable explanation for Trump's resistance is that he knows that it would reveal that the FBI had really good reasons to suspect something shady was going on between Trump's team and Russia.
Or he KNOWS it is a witch hunt and is allowing it to play out to expose ALL the treasonous conspirators
in the FBI and DOJ.   Exactly as we're watching unfold before our eyes.
That's not the impression any rational observer would get out of the Presidents course of actions....

But 6d chess or whatever mental gymnastics it takes to MAGA, right?
A rational poster such as yourself wouldnt comment on any specifics regarding this, just make some notes of the process.

Its one thing to comment on the process, its an entirely different thing to try and draw any hard conclusions. Youve done the first and committed the sin of the second.

Unless you have inside information, you have no idea what is going on behind the curtain.
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If the Trump-Russia investigation is truly a witch hunt, as Trump says, the FBI's application for a FISA surveillance warrant would prove it. Why won't his Administration allow Congress to see it? Among the key allegations made by Trump's allies is that the infamous DNC-funded opposition research dossier provided the basis for the FISA warrant that reportedly allowed surveillance against former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page and potentially others. To obtain a FISA warrant on a U.S. person, investigators must submit evidence to a judge that demonstrates a reasonable basis to believe that the intended target of the surveillance is an "agent of a foreign power." The FISA application would reveal exactly what evidence the FBI relied on to suspect that people within Trump's orbit were in cahoots with Russia.

If the Steele dossier was the principal evidence presented in the FISA warrant application, it would vindicate Trump and his allies claims that the Russia investigation was just a political witch hunt. This is why the FISA warrant application is of such keen interest to Trump's defenders.

Last week, Rep. Jim Jordan, a Trump ally, grilled FBI Director Chris Wray about the dossier's role in the FBI's FISA warrant application, and demanded that he allow Congress access to it. Wray refused, saying it was classified. Yet, there's one person who has the unchecked power to declassify anything he likes, including the FBI's FISA warrant application  Wray's boss, President Donald Trump. It's baffling that he refuses to do so. Trump has also made much hay of the Obama Administration's "unmasking" of Trump associates whose conversations were picked up in routine surveillance of Russian foreign intelligence targets. Yet, here again the Trump Administration has resisted Congressional requests for access to the details of which Obama officials requested the unmasking and their basis for doing so. By ordering that the FISA application and the unmasking details be made public, he could prove that the Russia investigation was really the political witch hunt he claims. So, why doesn't he do it? If it's just the dossier, that the FISA warrant is based on, there's nothing classified about that. Which suggests that there is more to it. If it's really a political witch hunt, Trump could be vindicated tomorrow. Trump has the power to get to the truth of the matter, yet is actively resisting doing so. The only reasonable explanation for Trump's resistance is that he knows that it would reveal that the FBI had really good reasons to suspect something shady was going on between Trump's team and Russia.
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LOL another challenger appears...

And if you can't discern why Trump and others might not want to pull the plug yet I can't help you.
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That's hardly the only explanation.
Here's another:
The "investigation" isn't turning out the way the "investigators" hoped it would. So far there have been more FBI/DOJ casualties (with more on the way, it seems) than former members of the Trump team who have been hit. It's quite possible that someone might have concluded that releasing the application isn't necessary, yet.
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You beat me
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