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So how long are we supposed to wait until this "investigation" has matured to not declare it bullshit? With as much paperwork, legalities, and what have you that most of these "players" go through on a daily basis, jamming Flynn up on what they did is the equivalent of getting you on a speeding violation or failure to come to a complete stop. Surely you've never sped before, in your lifetime, right? And if you have, you would surely tell us EXACTLY the time and place it occurred, right? B/C if you can't give us the exact details or don't remember, you're lying, and that's a crime also. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Watergate took years. Nixon was even re-elected in the meantime. View Quote Democrats know they don't have anything of substance that can take down Trump which is why they needed an investigation to "create" that substance. If you can't see this then I don't know what to tell you. |
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View Quote BTW, if that story is true, and it’s apparently the best they can come up with, that is still corruption. |
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It took a couple years before people started getting indicted for Watergate. This seems to be moving much more rapidly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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And I would venture a guess that information spreads and is obtained much quicker in 2017 than 1972. And by moving much more rapidly, it seems like they really aren't getting anywhere, quick. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: It took a couple years before people started getting indicted for Watergate. This seems to be moving much more rapidly. View Quote Anyway, in an age where everything is recorded this should be moving faster. |
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No, I'm an honest guy with integrity. Anyone who works with a shitbag dictator like Putin should pay the price. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No, that was a smear and a lie by a stalker here. Been here since 2004 and a always a staunch conservative unlike the sjw's who claim to be conservatives these days. Fucking kids... If they were doing something like this to Ryan.....you would probably be screaming for an investigation into the investigators...... I'm a Cruz guy. Anyone who works with a shitbag dictator like Putin should pay the price. define "work with" because alerting them to a possible terror attack is not exactly a negative thing..... Not to mention Obama and his caught on camera.... "after my election....I will have more flexiblity" .... I didn't see you crying for him to be investigated for collusion over that... face it....Trump could hand you $1M of his own money and you would find a way to bitch......Trump could personally cure cancer and you would find a way to bitch.....Trump could reverse the '34 NFA, '68 GCA, and the Hughes Amendment and you would still find a way to hate him....it's what you do.......nothing Trump does is ever good enough for people like you. And if you are so honest and have integrity.......then why are you going with Trump is guilty till proven innocent in this Russia? matter? |
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Bias for a life long conservative? Yup. Lock me up! View Quote Just heard Marc Levin on the way home from Lodge tonight, admitting that Trump is THE MOST CONSERVATIVE President we've had since Reagan. Laid out good arguments on all of his actions thus far, most importantly the job he's done with judiciary appointments.......you know the ones that leave a lasting mark on this nation. Now if you doubt the conservative credentials of Levin, then you are hopelessly delusional |
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Watergate is an apt example. A sitting president using dirty tricks like bugging his opponents. Anyway, in an age where everything is recorded this should be moving faster. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Watergate is an apt example. A sitting president using dirty tricks like bugging his opponents. Anyway, in an age where everything is recorded this should be moving faster. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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And I would venture a guess that information spreads and is obtained much quicker in 2017 than 1972. And by moving much more rapidly, it seems like they really aren't getting anywhere, quick. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So Mr. 'Staunch Conservative' Just heard Marc Levin on the way home from Lodge tonight, admitting that Trump is THE MOST CONSERVATIVE President we've had since Reagan. Laid out good arguments on all of his actions thus far, most importantly the job he's done with judiciary appointments.......you know the ones that leave a lasting mark on this nation. Now if you doubt the conservative credentials of Levin, then you are hopelessly delusional View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Bias for a life long conservative? Yup. Lock me up! Just heard Marc Levin on the way home from Lodge tonight, admitting that Trump is THE MOST CONSERVATIVE President we've had since Reagan. Laid out good arguments on all of his actions thus far, most importantly the job he's done with judiciary appointments.......you know the ones that leave a lasting mark on this nation. Now if you doubt the conservative credentials of Levin, then you are hopelessly delusional Immigration reform Pushing to end OCare Cutting Taxes Says God Bless America every chance he gets (and I'm a fucking atheist and I approve) Realizes and acting on the fact Islam is not compatible with Western culture Supports LE/Mil Auditing the fed/mil/everyone Trying to actually create a smaller government. My agency is STILL in a hiring freeze. Actually is good at foreign diplomacy and has been kicking ass all over the world w/out putting hardly any boots on the ground Effectively cut the head off the snake of ISIS (funding) But yes, I'm sure Cruz would have accomplished all that and more within a year of taking office. |
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We're at what, 8 months? These things take time... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Not really. The ease of modern investigations into data should not be underestimated. This should go faster. That's not wishcasting, that's a reasonable conclusion based on the state of the world and reason. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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also by all accounts, the Trump administration does not appear to be stonewalling the investigation, whereas the by word and password for the Nixon administration was stonewall. Where has the TRump administration had a Rose Mary Woods erasing tapes, emails, or what have you? Has the Trump administration ever been accused of holding back anything? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"Ease of modern investigations into data"? The huge amounts of data involved in large-scale investigations makes these cases harder, not easier... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: And we're back to wishcasting... That's not wishcasting, that's a reasonable conclusion based on the state of the world and reason. |
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Quoted: And we're back to wishcasting... That's not wishcasting, that's a reasonable conclusion based on the state of the world and reason. Harder? Not one bit. And with 21 trillion reasons to work my ass off, if it was there I would have found it by now. YMMV |
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So how long are we supposed to wait until this "investigation" has matured to not declare it bullshit? With as much paperwork, legalities, and what have you that most of these "players" go through on a daily basis, jamming Flynn up on what they did is the equivalent of getting you on a speeding violation or failure to come to a complete stop. Surely you've never sped before, in your lifetime, right? And if you have, you would surely tell us EXACTLY the time and place it occurred, right? B/C if you can't give us the exact details or don't remember, you're lying, and that's a crime also. View Quote They've seized every document they could possibly use for 2020 opposition research. They've found absolutely nothing so they moved on to tricking people into lying about stuff that isn't even a crime. The entire thing is bullshit & should be shut down now instead of wasting more taxpayer money because a small minority of sore losers are still angry about the election results... |
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We're at what, 8 months? These things take time... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Time consuming? Sure. Harder? Not one bit. And with 21 trillion reasons to work my ass off, if it was there I would have found it by now. YMMV View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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And it's not even hard to lay out what Trump is fighting for with "conservative" values and has consistently spoke, acted, or signed into law Immigration reform Pushing to end OCare Cutting Taxes Says God Bless America every chance he gets (and I'm a fucking atheist and I approve) Realizes and acting on the fact Islam is not compatible with Western culture Supports LE/Mil Auditing the fed/mil/everyone Trying to actually create a smaller government. My agency is STILL in a hiring freeze. Actually is good at foreign diplomacy and has been kicking ass all over the world w/out putting hardly any boots on the ground Effectively cut the head off the snake of ISIS (funding) But yes, I'm sure Cruz would have accomplished all that and more within a year of taking office. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Bias for a life long conservative? Yup. Lock me up! Just heard Marc Levin on the way home from Lodge tonight, admitting that Trump is THE MOST CONSERVATIVE President we've had since Reagan. Laid out good arguments on all of his actions thus far, most importantly the job he's done with judiciary appointments.......you know the ones that leave a lasting mark on this nation. Now if you doubt the conservative credentials of Levin, then you are hopelessly delusional Immigration reform Pushing to end OCare Cutting Taxes Says God Bless America every chance he gets (and I'm a fucking atheist and I approve) Realizes and acting on the fact Islam is not compatible with Western culture Supports LE/Mil Auditing the fed/mil/everyone Trying to actually create a smaller government. My agency is STILL in a hiring freeze. Actually is good at foreign diplomacy and has been kicking ass all over the world w/out putting hardly any boots on the ground Effectively cut the head off the snake of ISIS (funding) But yes, I'm sure Cruz would have accomplished all that and more within a year of taking office. |
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Naw, they cleared Hillary from all of those thousands upon thousands of e-mails on Weiner's laptop in a couple of days. Want to try again? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/01/obama-expanding-nsa-powers/513041/
And then I'm reminded of this, so again, why is this taking so long to find that smoking gun that Trump surely colluded with Russia, or at least his team did, or his dog, or maybe the cricket in his front lawn. |
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I search 60,000 - 140,000 emails a week. Do I read every one of them, no. That's what filters are for. But then, I have the players I'm really after, and that narrows it down quite a bit, to I would guess a few thousand. I can browse those in a day, in their entirety. Try again. View Quote |
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I could do that without my coffee getting cold. Try again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How long did it take them to go through FHRC's 33K found emails after the reopened the investigation? 3 days? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I search 60,000 - 140,000 emails a week. Do I read every one of them, no. That's what filters are for. But then, I have the players I'm really after, and that narrows it down quite a bit, to I would guess a few thousand. I can browse those in a day, in their entirety. Try again. |
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But didn't you just use the excuse that all that data takes a long time to look at it. So which is it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nope. Some tasks are made easier. Finding duplicates in two data sets when one is already known/hased? Easy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So how do IT guys end up arresting people? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm taking a shot in the dark. Don't "hase" me bro. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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