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"Surrounded himself" = 2 so far, one of whom was a long time Democrat operative. The other dude inexplicably didn't know he would be recorded talking to a Russian ambassador. That, btw makes no sense given his published background. YMMV. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This guy is entertainment! . So why don't we talk about the Russian connections with the FBI? How was McCabe intertwined with Fusion GPS, the Russian attorney (implicating DJT jr), and Russian money? View Quote |
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I really hope he didn't. If he did though he needs to pay for it. I'd rather have Pence anyway. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What if Trump and his team are actually guilty? Are you enough of a patriot and Constitution lover to support him being removed and Pence taking his place? I'd rather have Pence anyway. They are accused of nothing more than exposing corruption in Washington. Why is that a bad thing? |
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I suspect a good deal of Flynn's actions comes from not expecting there to be consequences. In a parallel universe if Hillary's campaign manager, NSA, and a couple other campaign advisors were being charged within her first year of office, I don't think many here would be writing her off as totally innocent. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why? They are accused of nothing more than exposing corruption in Washington. Why is that a bad thing? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What if Trump and his team are actually guilty? Are you enough of a patriot and Constitution lover to support him being removed and Pence taking his place? I'd rather have Pence anyway. They are accused of nothing more than exposing corruption in Washington. Why is that a bad thing? |
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Quoted: I suspect a good deal of Flynn's actions comes from not expecting there to be consequences. In a parallel universe if Hillary's campaign manager, NSA, and a couple other campaign advisors were being charged within her first year of office, I don't think many here would be writing her off as totally innocent. View Quote |
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This guy is entertainment! . So why don't we talk about the Russian connections with the FBI? How was McCabe intertwined with Fusion GPS, the Russian attorney (implicating DJT jr), and Russian money? But wasn't there a statute of limitations established unilaterally by the OP sometime in the 1980's about that discussion? ETA: Danica's back on the market, I must move to another thread. |
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The entire purpose of the Mueller investigation is to protect the corrupt deep statists in Washington, which includes Hillary. Your boy over looked, sweep under then rug, and facilitated corruption and criminal activity in Washington. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I don't even know what that means. But wasn't there a statute of limitations established unilaterally by the OP sometime in the 1980's about that discussion? ETA: Danica's back on the market, I must move to another thread. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This guy is entertainment! . So why don't we talk about the Russian connections with the FBI? How was McCabe intertwined with Fusion GPS, the Russian attorney (implicating DJT jr), and Russian money? But wasn't there a statute of limitations established unilaterally by the OP sometime in the 1980's about that discussion? ETA: Danica's back on the market, I must move to another thread. |
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FISA warrants for Page and Manafort came well before they were on the Trump campaign. Were those bogus as well? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It took a couple years before people started getting indicted for Watergate. This seems to be moving much more rapidly. Anyway, in an age where everything is recorded this should be moving faster. More like well over a year when the bogus FISA warrants were issued for members of the Trump Campaign by the corrupt gaggle of traitors in the last illegitimate White House. What does it feel like to promote the lies of traitors agains your own Country? Forget all the partisanship for a few days and let this sink in. You had a WH, DOJ, and FBI colluding with the campaign of one of the candidates to fabricate piss dossiers against one of the other candidates after the nominees were selected. What kind of American would support that undermining of the Democratic process? Not a real American, but a communist would all day, every day. A soulless savage vermin would support such activity. There need to be capital punishments for this mess. I'm reading Carter Page's Trident Scholar Project Report now to get more of a feel for who he is. It's an interesting topic he chose in 1993, the balance of political power over secrecy between the Executive and the Congress in American History. I'm reading about the political perspective he lays out on how this applied to nuclear secrets with the Manhattan Project, deterrence with the Soviets, and technology sharing or lack thereof between the US and her allies as a pretext for his analysis of the balance of power of the SDI project. He also talks about leaks being used at political tools when senior government officials are caught between enforcing policy and Congressional directives. His conclusions are that National Security and Disclosure arguments are largely invalid in practice, and that political forces actually determine the struggle of protection or exposure of State secrets, how exposure affects and changes public policy, and that scientific tests may be used as political tools. He also describes secrecy being used as a marketing tactic, while inexplicit Congressional appropriations were used as subsidies. He then observes that Executive claims to secrecy are reduced by corruption, followed by increased Congressional scrutiny, and that the Judicial Branch rarely got involved in the struggle for power over State secrets between the Executive and the Congress. He has 14 pages in his bibliography in APA format, and the sources are all very relevant to the topic. The fact that he was a single employee of a front company in New York, and his prior work in Naval Intelligence leads me to believe he was wearing 2 hats during and after his Naval career. The amateurish level of his cover in the private sector leans heavily to the tards at Langley. The Russians say they tried to recruit him but he was an "idiot", and the presstitutes all say he isn't that smart, yet he was a Trident Scholar. Whenever the presstitutes and Russians are on the same page about a US spy, it means they're likely trying to burn his network further. It could very well be collusion between Obama WH and traitors with Hillary traitors to make it appear Trump had a Russian agent working for his campaign, sacrificing someone from within the US IC for political gain. Given the facts of what I've seen, that is far more probable than Trump hired him to collude with the Russians to magically use their Russian power to throw him the election. Once he was burned, Trump let him go and distanced himself. If you're getting your info and opinion from the presstitutes though, it is already discredited before you are fed it. There is much more going on behind the scenes, and it isn't looking good for the previous WH, the FBI, CIA, NSA, DNI, DOJ, and Clinton campaign. |
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He appears to be operating under the assumption that the FISA warrants issued last year were only due to the dossier. If Trump had surrounded himself with people who already had FISA warrants for other matters prior to joining his campaign, it's doubtful that the later FISA warrants were based off the dossier alone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Also: What other FISA warrants have been reported other than those two? Flynn doesn't count - he was picked up talking direct to the Russian ambassador like a moron... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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FISA warrants for Page and Manafort came well before they were on the Trump campaign. Were those bogus as well? |
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So, no response to the serious discussions about how actual criminal investigations work.
Logical fallacies, to include straw men arguments and false dichotomies. Lost of smilies. Veiled accusations of trutherism based on stone cold facts about missing TRILLIONS and natural assumptions concerning the motives of those who calmly watched those TRILLIONS dissappear. With respect indeed. Sure sure. This was a demonstration. Attack the argument not the person or bot or whatever. Interesting evening. Off to bed. Sleep tight "conservatives." |
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Damn w/in 5 seconds of each other. You guys were meant for each other. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Full disclosure: I posted before I saw yours so I wasn't bagging on you. This time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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How would Trump know, and how would the targets of the FISA warrants know they had FISA warrants on them if Comey, DOJ, etc, didn't tell him? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So, no response to the serious discussions about how actual criminal investigations work. Logical fallacies, to include straw men arguments and false dichotomies. Lost of smilies. Veiled accusations of trutherism based on stone cold facts about missing TRILLIONS and natural assumptions concerning the motives of those who calmly watched those TRILLIONS dissappear. With respect indeed. Sure sure. This was a demonstration. Attack the argument not the person or bot or whatever. Interesting evening. Off to bed. Sleep tight "conservatives." View Quote |
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So, no response to the serious discussions about how actual criminal investigations work. Logical fallacies, to include straw men arguments and false dichotomies. Lost of smilies. Veiled accusations of trutherism based on stone cold facts about missing TRILLIONS and natural assumptions concerning the motives of those who calmly watched those TRILLIONS dissappear. With respect indeed. Sure sure. This was a demonstration. Attack the argument not the person or bot or whatever. Interesting evening. Off to bed. Sleep tight "conservatives." View Quote |
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This guy is entertainment! . So why don't we talk about the Russian connections with the FBI? How was McCabe intertwined with Fusion GPS, the Russian attorney (implicating DJT jr), and Russian money? View Quote I mean, they used their assets in organized crime in the US to supply the President with an East German honey pot, while Hoover was partying with mob bosses in private, but publicly saying the mafia was a myth. Then look at the Unions, international worker's party, and the Democrat Party, as well as Republican Party. They're so full of Soviet/Russian assets, it would result in a National pitch forks and gallows event. A lot of you who work for Federal Agencies would go ashen if you saw what some of your supervisors and department heads are up to. |
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I suspect a good deal of Flynn's actions comes from not expecting there to be consequences. In a parallel universe if Hillary's campaign manager, NSA, and a couple other campaign advisors were being charged within her first year of office, I don't think many here would be writing her off as totally innocent. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He appears to be operating under the assumption that the FISA warrants issued last year were only due to the dossier. If Trump had surrounded himself with people who already had FISA warrants for other matters prior to joining his campaign, it's doubtful that the later FISA warrants were based off the dossier alone. The other dude inexplicably didn't know he would be recorded talking to a Russian ambassador. That, btw makes no sense given his published background. YMMV. You have to recognize what kind of reaction there was within Langley and Bureau leadership when they saw that Trump appointed a former DIA Director as senior NSC advisor. DIA has known from the get-go that Langley was fully penetrated by NKVD. Langley would have been side-lined from PDB with a DIA NSC senior advisor, and the Russians and communists can't afford for that to happen after all the work they've put into reading our mail, appointing our directors, and steering our Presidents. |
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Because Russia and the Soviet Union have penetrated the FBI dating back to Hoover? I mean, they used their assets in organized crime in the US to supply the President with an East German honey pot, while Hoover was partying with mob bosses in private, but publicly saying the mafia was a myth. Then look at the Unions, international worker's party, and the Democrat Party, as well as Republican Party. They're so full of Soviet/Russian assets, it would result in a National pitch forks and gallows event. A lot of you who work for Federal Agencies would go ashen if you saw what some of your supervisors and department heads are up to. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This guy is entertainment! . So why don't we talk about the Russian connections with the FBI? How was McCabe intertwined with Fusion GPS, the Russian attorney (implicating DJT jr), and Russian money? I mean, they used their assets in organized crime in the US to supply the President with an East German honey pot, while Hoover was partying with mob bosses in private, but publicly saying the mafia was a myth. Then look at the Unions, international worker's party, and the Democrat Party, as well as Republican Party. They're so full of Soviet/Russian assets, it would result in a National pitch forks and gallows event. A lot of you who work for Federal Agencies would go ashen if you saw what some of your supervisors and department heads are up to. We put this tornado into the White House for a reason. And we will see it through. |
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Because Russia and the Soviet Union have penetrated the FBI dating back to Hoover? I mean, they used their assets in organized crime in the US to supply the President with an East German honey pot, while Hoover was partying with mob bosses in private, but publicly saying the mafia was a myth. Then look at the Unions, international worker's party, and the Democrat Party, as well as Republican Party. They're so full of Soviet/Russian assets, it would result in a National pitch forks and gallows event. A lot of you who work for Federal Agencies would go ashen if you saw what some of your supervisors and department heads are up to. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This guy is entertainment! . So why don't we talk about the Russian connections with the FBI? How was McCabe intertwined with Fusion GPS, the Russian attorney (implicating DJT jr), and Russian money? I mean, they used their assets in organized crime in the US to supply the President with an East German honey pot, while Hoover was partying with mob bosses in private, but publicly saying the mafia was a myth. Then look at the Unions, international worker's party, and the Democrat Party, as well as Republican Party. They're so full of Soviet/Russian assets, it would result in a National pitch forks and gallows event. A lot of you who work for Federal Agencies would go ashen if you saw what some of your supervisors and department heads are up to. |
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Because you refuse to recognize the intelligence war between DIA and CIA, you still see this through political glasses. You have to recognize what kind of reaction there was within Langley and Bureau leadership when they saw that Trump appointed a former DIA Director as senior NSC advisor. DIA has known from the get-go that Langley was fully penetrated by NKVD. Langley would have been side-lined from PDB with a DIA NSC senior advisor, and the Russians and communists can't afford for that to happen after all the work they've put into reading our mail, appointing our directors, and steering our Presidents. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He appears to be operating under the assumption that the FISA warrants issued last year were only due to the dossier. If Trump had surrounded himself with people who already had FISA warrants for other matters prior to joining his campaign, it's doubtful that the later FISA warrants were based off the dossier alone. The other dude inexplicably didn't know he would be recorded talking to a Russian ambassador. That, btw makes no sense given his published background. YMMV. You have to recognize what kind of reaction there was within Langley and Bureau leadership when they saw that Trump appointed a former DIA Director as senior NSC advisor. DIA has known from the get-go that Langley was fully penetrated by NKVD. Langley would have been side-lined from PDB with a DIA NSC senior advisor, and the Russians and communists can't afford for that to happen after all the work they've put into reading our mail, appointing our directors, and steering our Presidents. |
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Is @atlaturne legit shunned out of your guys group now? He hasn't posted since the falling out last night or whenever that was.
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He appears to be operating under the assumption that the FISA warrants issued last year were only due to the dossier. If Trump had surrounded himself with people who already had FISA warrants for other matters prior to joining his campaign, it's doubtful that the later FISA warrants were based off the dossier alone. The other dude inexplicably didn't know he would be recorded talking to a Russian ambassador. That, btw makes no sense given his published background. YMMV. You have to recognize what kind of reaction there was within Langley and Bureau leadership when they saw that Trump appointed a former DIA Director as senior NSC advisor. DIA has known from the get-go that Langley was fully penetrated by NKVD. Langley would have been side-lined from PDB with a DIA NSC senior advisor, and the Russians and communists can't afford for that to happen after all the work they've put into reading our mail, appointing our directors, and steering our Presidents. That's how that works. |
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and it never reached his desk. Of course you won't continue. Bush let the AWB sunset despite a huge outcry to extend or renew and strengthen it. Ah but let's ignore facts and actual history, right? View Quote And yet to you, he is a conservative hero |
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Looks like fake news is on board with stopping the abuse.
Johnson: Mueller email dispute may require change to the law "Sen. Ron Johnson, the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, told CNN he may seek to change federal law after concerns were by raised by Trump lawyers that special counsel Robert Mueller had improperly gained access to thousands of transition emails." "We're going to have to potentially update the laws ... to make it very clear that even though this is housed at GSA, this is not government property," |
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Is @atlaturne legit shunned out of your guys group now? He hasn't posted since the falling out last night or whenever that was. View Quote He has not posted here since...... |
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Does your foot hurt? I just caught up from page 144 onward and thought I would ask. I mean you kicked the ever-loving **** out him so hard you had me worried. |
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