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Link Posted: 10/26/2023 4:33:12 PM EDT
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I take it you don't bowl or at least not don't appendix carry, more than a beginners approach and you'd know wearing a concealed pistol anywhere on your waste would be an issue. Also there's no way to keep a gun concealed in that situation. Maybe a BUG in some baggy-ass carpenter jeans but some of us don't walk around looking like extras on the job site.
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Why take the gun off to bowl? I wouldn't and haven't. Outside of places where I don't really have a choice legally, the only time I take it off is to go in the water.

You're correct you can't be paying complete attention all the time and you can always get distracted but at least have the tools on you. That way when you hear the first shots you can snap back.



I take it you don't bowl or at least not don't appendix carry, more than a beginners approach and you'd know wearing a concealed pistol anywhere on your waste would be an issue. Also there's no way to keep a gun concealed in that situation. Maybe a BUG in some baggy-ass carpenter jeans but some of us don't walk around looking like extras on the job site.


I carry right side at 3:00 and I've bowled with the gun in that normal position 3:00 many times.

No I don't bowl seriously and regularly. Just once in awhile less and less over the years. But I have bowled plenty of times armed. If I bowl more, I wouldn't change my habits. If I print or someone sees it oh well. I try to conceal but I don't obsess over it. Being armed is more important then offending someone. If its illegal, then I totally get abstaining.
Link Posted: 10/26/2023 4:34:27 PM EDT
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ANYBODY IN HIS CHAIN OF COMMAND KILLED/WOUNDED AT EITHER OF THE SCENES?
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My most sincere condolences.
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My friend and his son did not make it.

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My most sincere condolences.


This.

Terribly sorry man.
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Looks like dude was a schizo who had recently gotten hearing aids. Obviously as he adjusted he heard a lot of things he had not before.  His schizo mind decided that the extra stuff he was hearing were people talking bad about him at the bar and bowling ally.
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I'm sorry man

Link Posted: 10/26/2023 4:38:35 PM EDT
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Anyone else hearing reports that the rifle he used came from the NG armory?  

If true they better cover it up fast as it doesn't look good with Biden trying to use this to ban assault weapons.
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If true they better cover it up fast as it doesn't look good with Biden trying to use this to ban assault weapons.
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The NG Armory has braced AR pistols?
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Can't believe that scumbag is not accounted for yet?
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Bryan  MacFarlane, 40, was participating in a cornhole tournament at  Schemengees Bar and Grille Restaurant when he was killed during  Wednesday's mass shooting in Lewiston, his sister Keri Brooks told  CNN. MacFarlane, who's part of the local deaf community, usually goes to Schemengees on  Wednesdays where other deaf people gather to play cornhole, Brooks  said.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/lewiston-maine-shootings-active-shooter-10-25-23/h_63968cfacbf19b333364c83db3f27ca5
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Yeah maybe but that stuff looks horrible. Point is that’s impossible to stay strapped at all times. The one dude who ran down the lane into ‘the pit’ to get away was thinking.

Again, this is a time for all of us to reflect on what we’re doing and not doing.

RIP for the Victims….
Link Posted: 10/26/2023 4:44:00 PM EDT
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The NG Armory has braced AR pistols?


Those pics in the op don't look like either of those things.
Link Posted: 10/26/2023 4:44:42 PM EDT
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Man sorry to read this.   Condolences


Link Posted: 10/26/2023 4:44:44 PM EDT
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That's not typically how it works with audio hallucinations.

Amplifying ambient sounds would actually help diminish AH. Hear muffs are bad
Link Posted: 10/26/2023 4:45:14 PM EDT
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Nope, not a way if you're an advanced bowler.....Any gun concealed on your waistband would be seen by other bowlers pretty easily. A Miami rig with overshirt maybe but that would be cumbersome as fuck bowling, I'm guessing your idea of bowling is breaking a 100? Go watch some videos of pros and even advanced league bowlers, not sure where you'd have the gun on you where other bowlers wouldn't see it.

Best option would be a BUG in some baggy pants or keeping it in your bag nearby. Don't tell me your have a shower or shitter gun?
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I bowl and agree for the most part, although something small like an LCP in a pocket holster could be kept in the back pocket.  Nobody would think it’s anything but a wallet.
Link Posted: 10/26/2023 4:46:04 PM EDT
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Thanks everyone for the condolences, I'm just kind of in shock right now.

Yes, he and his son started bowling together a couple of years ago. His son took right to it and it really helped him socially, Bill said he was getting really good.
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I’d never find your original post at this point. Was that the dad with his autistic son there for league night?  

I hate to hear that man. May they rest in peace. I’ll be praying for you and their family.


Thanks everyone for the condolences, I'm just kind of in shock right now.

Yes, he and his son started bowling together a couple of years ago. His son took right to it and it really helped him socially, Bill said he was getting really good.



Absolutely tragic.  You have my condolences.  I have family in Maine.  Have been there a few times.  Unimaginable this could happen there.  My wife broke down in tears when i passed the news on to her.
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Link Posted: 10/26/2023 4:46:58 PM EDT
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I carry right side at 3:00 and I've bowled with the gun in that normal position 3:00 many times.

No I don't bowl seriously and regularly. Just once in awhile less and less over the years. But I have bowled plenty of times armed. If I bowl more, I wouldn't change my habits. If I print or someone sees it oh well. I try to conceal but I don't obsess over it. Being armed is more important then offending someone. If its illegal, then I totally get abstaining.
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Did we get confirmation this was a “gun free” establishment? One would likely be told to leave if discovered unless it Carrie’s weight in ME. Here it does not so I carry my gun into places, in fact a local “entertainment” place that happens to have bowling has one of these signs. I just store it in my bag nearby, just not ideal.


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Balls of steel… he tried his best. May he rest in peace.
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Yeah that looks like a close to standard sized carbine.
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Talking heads on MSNBC said it was a 308, it was sickening listening to them(some politicians from Maine) talk about how nobody needs an AR to hunt, how it will destroy deer meat etc etc etc
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Yeah maybe but that stuff looks horrible. Point is that’s impossible to stay strapped at all times. The one dude who ran down the lane into ‘the pit’ to get away was thinking.

Again, this is a time for all of us to reflect on what we’re doing and not doing.

RIP for the Victims….
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Yeah maybe but that stuff looks horrible. Point is that’s impossible to stay strapped at all times. The one dude who ran down the lane into ‘the pit’ to get away was thinking.

Again, this is a time for all of us to reflect on what we’re doing and not doing.

RIP for the Victims….


Walter carried his 1911 wrapped in a rag in his ball bag. Smokey found that out when he refused to mark it zero.
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Fuck Biden and fuck the Democratic Socialist dictatorship, they do not represent America
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In my latest active shooter training we were actually taught to do anchor shots.  We were told it is now state policy, put out by our Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission, that any son of a bitch that tries to kill kids in a school in Florida is not going to survive the attempt.

The thinking is we will be by ourselves until law enforcement arrives so we have to make sure the attacker is dead in case there is a second attacker we have to go deal with.

I had same training


It was a bit of a shock after over twenty years in the business to be told we are NOT shooting to stop the threat, we are shooting to kill.  I understand and have even advocated for a more "infantry" mindset dealing with active shooters, but I never expected to be told by an LEO trainer at an official class that it is now state policy.
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In the old days drinking it could kill.
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I bowl and agree for the most part, although something small like an LCP in a pocket holster could be kept in the back pocket.  Nobody would think it’s anything but a wallet.
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Nope, not a way if you're an advanced bowler.....Any gun concealed on your waistband would be seen by other bowlers pretty easily. A Miami rig with overshirt maybe but that would be cumbersome as fuck bowling, I'm guessing your idea of bowling is breaking a 100? Go watch some videos of pros and even advanced league bowlers, not sure where you'd have the gun on you where other bowlers wouldn't see it.

Best option would be a BUG in some baggy pants or keeping it in your bag nearby. Don't tell me your have a shower or shitter gun?


I bowl and agree for the most part, although something small like an LCP in a pocket holster could be kept in the back pocket.  Nobody would think it’s anything but a wallet.


Aren't bowling shirts baggy?

I conceal 1911s under scrub tops that are kinda snug
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That's not typically how it works with audio hallucinations.

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Looks like dude was a schizo who had recently gotten hearing aids. Obviously as he adjusted he heard a lot of things he had not before.  His schizo mind decided that the extra stuff he was hearing were people talking bad about him at the bar and bowling ally.


That's not typically how it works with audio hallucinations.

Amplifying ambient sounds would actually help diminish AH. Hear muffs are bad

When I was young, I did hallucinogens and that is exactly how it worked.  All ambient conversations turned into being about me.   Like everyone was talking amongst themselves about me. Then, as I was probably acting strange, they would look at me, then of course my mind took that as confirmation that they had indeed been talking about me.
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They need to make a bowling ball that holds a glock.
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We all die. Good way to go trying to protect Innocent people.


If people were armed that this establishment, then the perp would be dead for sure. Sucks man. What could have been versus what is.
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If true they better cover it up fast as it doesn't look good with Biden trying to use this to ban assault weapons.
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The NG Armory has braced AR pistols?


Those pics in the op don't look like either of those things.


Looks like a 14.5-16” barrel and definitely a standard M4 waffle stock.
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So, my buddy is AGR in the battalions S3 shop of the dude in question. They were at ECT at west point training cadets when he went a little fucko. The state police were called in, and the end result was him being hospitalized.

West Point does not have a mental health facility, and he was transferred to a civilian hospital and held for 2 weeks. After release, he threatened to shoot up the saco Reserve Center during September's drill.

The COC is shitting bricks right now and are trying to figure out how to cover there asses.

Edit: When I talked to my buddy, he was heading in a meeting with the BC and other relevant leadership to try and figure out what to do.

Some things he brought up were:

-The unit facebook page has been shut down because news outlets were using it to contact soldiers in the unit.

-The BC RFI'd my buddy on the COA for when the dude is killed by the cops. Does he get a military funeral?

-the dudes first sausage is sweating bullets. I'm not sure the reasoning.

My buddies phone was blowing up while talking to him. I'll update more when and if he gets a chance to talk.

On a side note, my va councilor and my grammother lives 5 minutes from where he swapped vehicles.


I think the leadership is sweating due to what they did or didn't do after his release. They are probably fine. However, they are about to be held under a microscope on a national scale. This event will certainly affect an oer/ncoer, so I bet they are trying to ensure that they did, in fact, take all the necessary actions.

It is hard to manage soldiers in the reserves. As a leader, you can't do much unless they are at drill or on orders. For instance, you can't confiscate his firearms.

When I was in, I had a soldier who decided to Don his full battle rattle and march down the city streets with an AR at 2 in the morning. The cops took his firearms, and we got him a mental health profile. If the cops didn't confiscate his guns, the profile would be useless because the 90% he's at home he would have access to firearms.





Is it true his weapon was taken from the unit arms room? I keep seeing that on Twitter.
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The NG Armory has braced AR pistols?


Are we certain is was pistol.  The one photo looked as if it may have been a 16" upper.
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Yeah that looks like a close to standard sized carbine.
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Yeah that looks like a close to standard sized carbine.


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If I was in that F250, I'm unassing that AO, ASAFP. I don't want to be anywhere near either group when that gun fight goes down.
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Yeah maybe but that stuff looks horrible. Point is that’s impossible to stay strapped at all times. The one dude who ran down the lane into ‘the pit’ to get away was thinking.

Again, this is a time for all of us to reflect on what we’re doing and not doing.

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Yeah maybe but that stuff looks horrible. Point is that’s impossible to stay strapped at all times. The one dude who ran down the lane into ‘the pit’ to get away was thinking.

Again, this is a time for all of us to reflect on what we’re doing and not doing.

RIP for the Victims….


I have tried a pair of CCW Breakways.  They have some design problmes that need to be addressed .  They don't look right for use.  They moved the gun forward in the pants so it is more to the inside of the thigh.  No problem with comfort and use; but the weight of the psitol will pull the front of the pants at the closure down from under your belt.  It look stupid. I have a seamstress working on a solution and if it works I will share with them.
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We all die. Good way to go trying to protect Innocent people.


If people were armed that this establishment, then the perp would be dead for sure. Sucks man. What could have been versus what is.
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We all die. Good way to go trying to protect Innocent people.


If people were armed that this establishment, then the perp would be dead for sure. Sucks man. What could have been versus what is.


Agreed. It would be nice to have a different outcome where just the shooter was eliminated.
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Balls of steel… he tried his best. May he rest in peace.


Amen. The man tried - I wish to God he'd had a gun on him to succeed.
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Video has been geolocated to his last known resident.  The audio may be faked.
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I kept a 12 ga under the bar when I was a bartender.  Mossberg pump fit fine on top of the beer cooler.  Easy to grab.
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Did we get confirmation this was a “gun free” establishment? One would likely be told to leave if discovered unless it Carrie’s weight in ME. Here it does not so I carry my gun into places, in fact a local “entertainment” place that happens to have bowling has one of these signs. I just store it in my bag nearby, just not ideal.


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I carry right side at 3:00 and I've bowled with the gun in that normal position 3:00 many times.

No I don't bowl seriously and regularly. Just once in awhile less and less over the years. But I have bowled plenty of times armed. If I bowl more, I wouldn't change my habits. If I print or someone sees it oh well. I try to conceal but I don't obsess over it. Being armed is more important then offending someone. If its illegal, then I totally get abstaining.



Did we get confirmation this was a “gun free” establishment? One would likely be told to leave if discovered unless it Carrie’s weight in ME. Here it does not so I carry my gun into places, in fact a local “entertainment” place that happens to have bowling has one of these signs. I just store it in my bag nearby, just not ideal.




I'm not sure if it was illegal or not in this case.

I do think a baggy t shirt would likely cover up the gun to most even while bowling. Some people that really know what to look for like cops might know but most non gun people probably wouldn't.

If you are wearing t fitting clothes sure it'll be pretty obvious.
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Well I’ve gotten a little fat so most of my shirts are not
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Looks like it was taken near the guy's house. It could have been earlier today.

It sounds like they're telling people to stay inside.
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Did we get confirmation this was a “gun free” establishment? One would likely be told to leave if discovered unless it Carrie’s weight in ME. Here it does not so I carry my gun into places, in fact a local “entertainment” place that happens to have bowling has one of these signs. I just store it in my bag nearby, just not ideal.


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I carry right side at 3:00 and I've bowled with the gun in that normal position 3:00 many times.

No I don't bowl seriously and regularly. Just once in awhile less and less over the years. But I have bowled plenty of times armed. If I bowl more, I wouldn't change my habits. If I print or someone sees it oh well. I try to conceal but I don't obsess over it. Being armed is more important then offending someone. If its illegal, then I totally get abstaining.



Did we get confirmation this was a “gun free” establishment? One would likely be told to leave if discovered unless it Carrie’s weight in ME. Here it does not so I carry my gun into places, in fact a local “entertainment” place that happens to have bowling has one of these signs. I just store it in my bag nearby, just not ideal.




Not legally a gun free zone. I don't know if they have signs there but they wouldn't carry legal weight in Maine even if they do.
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Early to mid 70s its nickname was the "Ram-it-in"
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The Ramada was a happening place in the 70s and 80s.


Early to mid 70s its nickname was the "Ram-it-in"


Later it was The Barnyard. (Barnaby's). Midcap would have loved it
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Balls of steel… he tried his best. May he rest in peace.
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https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/lewiston-maine-shootings-active-shooter-10-25-23


Balls of steel… he tried his best. May he rest in peace.


You got that right.  He was left defenseless when he needed it.
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