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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:21:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So weird that this mass shooting happened just as Judge Benitez’s California assault weapons ban ruling is about to go to the Supreme Court, possibly setting the precedent that all of those bans are illegal. Very weird indeed. So who do you imagine is behind this conspiracy? Did they MK Ultra him, or was it lizard people brain control? Fucking conspiracy bullshit. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:21:49 PM EDT
[#2]
Press conference just ended. Lots of jibber jabber about talking to President Biden, weapon/mag bans, 80 FBI agents working on the case...
No details about the search. 
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:22:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The lady with the head shakes in the news conference is speaking of nothing but how important she is by receiving phone calls from other politicians and campaigning for gun control. Get her off the podium and let someone give condolences to the families as well as an update on the investigation and possible wherabouts of the suspect. Hated that bitch for decades. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:22:47 PM EDT
[#4]
Yeesh.
Susan Collins - Supports Hi cap mag ban, historically supported AWB but was sabotaged by Feinstein trying expand the ban. Supports raising rifle age to 21, supports legislatively banning bumpstocks. The senate is looking rough, I hope the new Speaker of the House has balls of steel. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:23:03 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Collins just said she supports an AWB and ban on high capacity magazines. I guess it would have been impossible for her to exhibit an ounce of class and say "I don't believe it is appropriate to discuss such things at this time." |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:23:57 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeesh. Susan Collins - Supports Hi cap mag ban, historically supported AWB but was sabotaged by Feinstein trying expand the ban. Supports raising rifle age to 21, supports legislatively banning bumpstocks. The senate is looking rough, I hope the new Speaker of the House has balls of steel. None of these lawyer asshole politicians have never read the Constitution. They are dancing on the dead. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:25:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The press conference was a bunch of grand standing by politicians. No update on the manhunt, the suspect or the victims. It was simply an opportunity for politicians to grandstand. Absolutely disgusting. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:25:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The press conference was a bunch of grand standing by politicians. No update on the manhunt, the suspect or the victims. It was simply an opportunity for politicians to grandstand. Pretty much the standard these days. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:26:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn’t there a restaurant in tx that was shot up 20-30yrs ago? One of the patrons that was killed left his CCW in the vehicle as the restaurant was posted. IIRC his family sued the restaurant and won. Not exactly. Lubys Cafeteria 30 years ago. The patron, a female medical doctor was eating there with her parents when the shooter crashed a pick up truck into the building and began shooting. Her parents were killed. There was no “posted” or CCW in Texas at the time. She testified in hearings before the state legislature about leaving her handgun in her car because at the time there was no CCW in Texas, there was only a loophole that let people legally carry a gun in their car. Her testimony regarding that experience was critical to Texas, finally passing CCW licensing legislation. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:27:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Luby’s Diner. The Suzanna Rupp testimony is worth a listen, and I always share that with antis and the Warren v DC SCOTUS ruling up to the “the police will protect me” delusionals. That’s a chilling tale of its’ own  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEJFAvA-ZUEhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia @Duck_Hunt Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wasn’t there a restaurant in tx that was shot up 20-30yrs ago? One of the patrons that was killed left his CCW in the vehicle as the restaurant was posted. IIRC his family sued the restaurant and won. Luby’s Diner. The Suzanna Rupp testimony is worth a listen, and I always share that with antis and the Warren v DC SCOTUS ruling up to the “the police will protect me” delusionals. That’s a chilling tale of its’ own https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEJFAvA-ZUEhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia @Duck_Hunt Thank you sir @NY12ga |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:27:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's clearly a shitty picture that doesn't clearly show shit. It appears to be a police officer leading a civilian to the safety of the police lines. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:28:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Susan Collins has no shame. Looks like she does have Parkinson's though. glad I wasnt the only one who noticed she couldnt stop shaking / bobbing her head |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:29:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had taken fluoxetine a couple years back and I can tell you the gap between the thought of doing something dangerous and actually doing is greatly reduced. A crack head walks in front of you car and you don’t slow down because you’re perfectly fine with what ever happens. You drive over an overpass or pass impact absorbing rails and wonder what it would be like to run right into it. It got scary as hell and I went off cold turkey against my doctors recommendation. What’s worse, brain zaps or getting fucked in prison for running people over. This is still more wishful thinking to lay the blame anywhere else. The sheer number of people on SSRIs and guns, and cars, and matches and gasoline cans, we’d see this bore out in the numbers pretty quickly. I haven’t seen any studies that suggest they cause some sort of inhibition of general violent criminality. It’s just a fuzzy logic connection the gun community hopes can explain away, and draw attention away from, schizophrenics being able to get their hands on guns, without any real data(again that I’ve seen) to suggest it’s a direct cause of these events. Maybe lunatics shouldn’t be out on the streets? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:29:35 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: First question from the media is to Collins about her support for an AWB. Second question is about an AWB. Nothing about the progress of the investigation, no new info on the shooters location, or updated status of victims. This press conference is fucking bullshit. All that matters to them, the commie damncrats and rino traitors is advancement of the agenda, disarm good Americans and make them vulnerable to criminals. They live to hear Americans plead for government to save us. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:33:08 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts Condolences to you and their family. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:34:01 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can’t keep up with the thread, but have we talked about the second shooter? Witness video from the scene clearly shows 2 people with guns running from the scene. Pics taken from Fox News video this am. The one in all black had the weapon light on while running. Appeared to be a rifle. AR style? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/128278/IMG_9682_jpeg-3005206.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/128278/IMG_9679_jpeg-3005207.JPG Not sure, but I thought that was one of the responding LEOs. News interview of the person who recorded the video had some mention of LEO patting down patrons as they exited and were escorted out of the establishment (to ensure they didn't miss the armed shooter mingling with the others, or something). The video CLEARLY shows LE on-site already. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:34:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby's_shooting She was the CCW holder. She left her gun in the car due to the “no guns allowed” signage. Some asshole drove his truck into the restaurant, got out and opened fire. Her parents were killed in the massacre. She left her pistol in the car for fear should lose her chiropractor’s license if she was caught with it. Incorrect. She was not a CCW holder. At that time there was no CCW (and thus no posted locations) in TX. At that time, the only legal option to carry a gun in Texas was a Loop hole which allowed one to keep a loaded handgun in their car. Her fear of losing her medical license if she carried on her person was due to TX not having any legal mechanism to do so anywhere. There were no “no guns” signs involved. That incident, and her subsequent testimony and activism was what lead to Texas finally getting CCW a couple years later. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:37:16 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:38:13 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts Damn. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:38:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you believe that same prosecutor would not try to throw you under the bus for "shooting to wound"? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah I would think under the right circumstances a DA would throw you under the bus for “shooting to kill.” I totally get the concept and agree a POS shooter should be killed, but Chauvin was taught the neck hold in LEO training and that didn’t stop the DA from saying his training killed Floyd. Do you believe that same prosecutor would not try to throw you under the bus for "shooting to wound"? That’s just it, it’s always been “shoot to stop the threat.” Policies stating Shooting to wound and shooting to kill I think would be easy targets for a DA. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:38:48 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not exactly. Lubys Cafeteria 30 years ago. The patron, a female medical doctor was eating there with her parents when the shooter crashed a pick up truck into the building and began shooting. Her parents were killed. There was no “posted” or CCW in Texas at the time. She testified in hearings before the state legislature about leaving her handgun in her car because at the time there was no CCW in Texas, there was only a loophole that let people legally carry a gun in their car. Her testimony regarding that experience was critical to Texas, finally passing CCW licensing legislation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wasn’t there a restaurant in tx that was shot up 20-30yrs ago? One of the patrons that was killed left his CCW in the vehicle as the restaurant was posted. IIRC his family sued the restaurant and won. Not exactly. Lubys Cafeteria 30 years ago. The patron, a female medical doctor was eating there with her parents when the shooter crashed a pick up truck into the building and began shooting. Her parents were killed. There was no “posted” or CCW in Texas at the time. She testified in hearings before the state legislature about leaving her handgun in her car because at the time there was no CCW in Texas, there was only a loophole that let people legally carry a gun in their car. Her testimony regarding that experience was critical to Texas, finally passing CCW licensing legislation. Safer ever since. Shame it took that happening to get the rhinos on board |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:40:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:41:17 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure, but I thought that was one of the responding LEOs. News interview of the person who recorded the video had some mention of LEO patting down patrons as they exited and were escorted out of the establishment (to ensure they didn't miss the armed shooter mingling with the others, or something). The video CLEARLY shows LE on-site already. Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure, but I thought that was one of the responding LEOs. News interview of the person who recorded the video had some mention of LEO patting down patrons as they exited and were escorted out of the establishment (to ensure they didn't miss the armed shooter mingling with the others, or something). The video CLEARLY shows LE on-site already. That makes sense. Thanks! |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:41:59 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Bryan MacFarlane, 40, was participating in a cornhole tournament at Schemengees Bar and Grille Restaurant when he was killed during Wednesday's mass shooting in Lewiston, his sister Keri Brooks told CNN. MacFarlane, who's part of the local deaf community, usually goes to Schemengees on Wednesdays where other deaf people gather to play cornhole, Brooks said. https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/lewiston-maine-shootings-active-shooter-10-25-23/h_63968cfacbf19b333364c83db3f27ca5 Dude with hearing problems targeted a deaf event? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:42:31 PM EDT
[#25]
Over 1 million abortions happen a year in the US.these people don’t give a flying fuck about the most vulnerable and innocent. Fuck them. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:43:20 PM EDT
[#26]
NBC News just interviewed an Army reservist in motorcycle attire who said he was trained on the M16 by Card. Said Card is smart, knows how to handle himself and that “they really need soldiers here, not just police”.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:43:23 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So who do you imagine is behind this conspiracy? Did they MK Ultra him, or was it lizard people brain control? Fucking conspiracy bullshit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So weird that this mass shooting happened just as Judge Benitez’s California assault weapons ban ruling is about to go to the Supreme Court, possibly setting the precedent that all of those bans are illegal. Very weird indeed. So who do you imagine is behind this conspiracy? Did they MK Ultra him, or was it lizard people brain control? Fucking conspiracy bullshit. I’m pretty sick of all these 22-23ers coming in and trying to police everyone’s speech and in oddly the same way. [Deleted] |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:43:27 PM EDT
[#28]
Be prepared for all manner of the most firearms ignorant people to opine on this event. While it’s unlikely to result in the repeal of the 2nd, it will cause lots of “debate” and legislative suggestions. Get ready to counter them. These are intellectually lazy people. They have nothing and completely avoid the real problem. Bad people!
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:43:54 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Every single one of these democrats that is supposedly against gun bans always folds. A democrat is anti gun, period. A republican may or may not be. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Congressman Jared Golden just stated he has always opposed AWB but now is the time to get these "weapons of war" off the streets  Every single one of these democrats that is supposedly against gun bans always folds. A democrat is anti gun, period. A republican may or may not be. The overwhelming majority of Republicans would be happy to disarm the filthy plebs and make firearms a privilege reserved for the 'Special folks' like them and their buddies. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:46:47 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw the video running in the background of the press conference. It appears to be a police officer leading a civilian to the safety of the police lines. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's clearly a shitty picture that doesn't clearly show shit. It appears to be a police officer leading a civilian to the safety of the police lines. Yup. But the conspiracy screeching from some, shall continue. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:47:40 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:48:11 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With what? Disregard. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:48:57 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For those thinking he used an issued army m4. I dont have some inside source so this is just my opinion. It's nearly impossible to get m4 out of the vault without being the supply nco. You would need to enter the locked armory (easy part if you drill there), get into the locked supply room, get into the locked vault, get into the locked m4 weapons rack, then exit the armory.. tough task. Steal a humvee? Easy assuming the batteries aren't dead. Steal an m4? I don't think so but idk I think the issue weapon theory is heavily dependent on the (apparently false) rumor that he was a "firearms instructor" and as such likely his unit's armorer (which would mean he could steal a weapon if he didn't care about ever returning it) |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:49:50 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts I'm really sorry to hear that man, I'll keep you and his family in my prayers. This is terrible. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:50:03 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bump stock ??? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
Bump stock ??? Sounds like moderate semi auto shots bouncing off buildings. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:51:04 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm really sorry to hear that man, I'll keep you and his family in my prayers. This is terrible. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts I'm really sorry to hear that man, I'll keep you and his family in my prayers. This is terrible. I am so sorry. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:51:07 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the issue weapon theory is heavily dependent on the (apparently false) rumor that he was a "firearms instructor" and as such likely his unit's armorer (which would mean he could steal a weapon if he didn't care about ever returning it) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For those thinking he used an issued army m4. I dont have some inside source so this is just my opinion. It's nearly impossible to get m4 out of the vault without being the supply nco. You would need to enter the locked armory (easy part if you drill there), get into the locked supply room, get into the locked vault, get into the locked m4 weapons rack, then exit the armory.. tough task. Steal a humvee? Easy assuming the batteries aren't dead. Steal an m4? I don't think so but idk I think the issue weapon theory is heavily dependent on the (apparently false) rumor that he was a "firearms instructor" and as such likely his unit's armorer (which would mean he could steal a weapon if he didn't care about ever returning it) News stated "Certified Firearms Instructor". Not sure where the "Apparently false" bit is from? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:51:37 PM EDT
[#38]
It’s been 24hrs and he’s still at large? Damn
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:52:15 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the issue weapon theory is heavily dependent on the (apparently false) rumor that he was a "firearms instructor" and as such likely his unit's armorer (which would mean he could steal a weapon if he didn't care about ever returning it) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For those thinking he used an issued army m4. I dont have some inside source so this is just my opinion. It's nearly impossible to get m4 out of the vault without being the supply nco. You would need to enter the locked armory (easy part if you drill there), get into the locked supply room, get into the locked vault, get into the locked m4 weapons rack, then exit the armory.. tough task. Steal a humvee? Easy assuming the batteries aren't dead. Steal an m4? I don't think so but idk I think the issue weapon theory is heavily dependent on the (apparently false) rumor that he was a "firearms instructor" and as such likely his unit's armorer (which would mean he could steal a weapon if he didn't care about ever returning it) See 7 posts up from yours. Fellow Army reservist said Card trained him. Wish I could find the clip to post. Guy also said police aren’t up for this. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:53:08 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Be prepared for all manner of the most firearms ignorant people to opine on this event. While it’s unlikely to result in the repeal of the 2nd, it will cause lots of “debate” and legislative suggestions. Get ready to counter them. These are intellectually lazy people. They have nothing and completely avoid the real problem. Bad people! Get ready for Grab'em Newscum to be the new 2A czar and segue his way into being installed as president. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:53:35 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s been 24hrs and he’s still at large? Damn He got away. He is either bear food or literally gone never to be caught. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:54:18 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: After the DC snipers, 9/11, and Dorner, I have always thought that 20 guys could really make a mess in this country. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just imagine something like this across multiple cities simultaneously with multiple bad actors at each location. Hope the guys room temperature soon! After the DC snipers, 9/11, and Dorner, I have always thought that 20 guys could really make a mess in this country. Look at the casualty count in Paris a about 6 years back. The moment you have a people working together things can get deadly much more quickly. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:54:35 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude with hearing problems targeted a deaf event? I’m really starting to think this guy was a horse’s ass and people didn’t like him but they acted civil to his face but talked crap about him behind his back. They knew him to be hard to hearing so they didn’t try too hard to be discrete when talking about him. He can’t me anyway right. Dude gets hearing aids and quickly discovers the truth of things and loses his fragile but violent mind. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:55:38 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So who do you imagine is behind this conspiracy? Did they MK Ultra him, or was it lizard people brain control? Fucking conspiracy bullshit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So weird that this mass shooting happened just as Judge Benitez’s California assault weapons ban ruling is about to go to the Supreme Court, possibly setting the precedent that all of those bans are illegal. Very weird indeed. So who do you imagine is behind this conspiracy? Did they MK Ultra him, or was it lizard people brain control? Fucking conspiracy bullshit. Today's conspiracies are tomorrow's headlines. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:55:50 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck Jared Golden. I hope that cake eater gets ass cancer. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:56:29 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s been 24hrs and he’s still at large? Damn It took the Bureau five years to run down Eric Rudolph |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:56:40 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In before someone calls you a Q tard or whatever other boomer buzzwords they use here Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So weird that this mass shooting happened just as Judge Benitez’s California assault weapons ban ruling is about to go to the Supreme Court, possibly setting the precedent that all of those bans are illegal. Very weird indeed. In before someone calls you a Q tard or whatever other boomer buzzwords they use here 
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:57:36 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: NBC News just interviewed an Army reservist in motorcycle attire who said he was trained on the M16 by Card. Said Card is smart, knows how to handle himself and that “they really need soldiers here, not just police”. From Army Crimes: Sgt. 1st Class Robert R. Card II is a petroleum supply specialist in the Army Reserve who enlisted in December 2002, Card’s awards include the Army Achievement Medal, Army Reserve Component Achievement Medal x2, Humanitarian Service Medal, National Defense Service Medal and Army Service Ribbon. He has no combat deployments. https://www.armytimes.com/news/2023/10/26/maine-mass-shooting-suspect-is-an-army-reservist/ ************** May very likely have been able to shoot and teach. That likely wasn't his primary role in the USAR, but who knows. I do find it strange that a guy in since 2002 never deployed. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:58:16 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It took the Bureau five years to run down Eric Rudolph They never did. Locals got him IIRC. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 6:59:29 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He got away. He is either bear food or literally gone never to be caught. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It’s been 24hrs and he’s still at large? Damn He got away. He is either bear food or literally gone never to be caught. It is sofa king easy to get away in northern New England. |
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