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Link Posted: 3/22/2023 11:49:51 PM EDT
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Seems like this shit should be a 4th violation to me
Link Posted: 3/22/2023 11:52:15 PM EDT
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In this packet of papers  .of NCIC queries I was flipping through the other day, I did notice that one of them said my state I.D. Number was say something like OU812 ..which is NOT my driver's license number.

Sooo .that also makes me.
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That's the number they tattoo onto your arm when interned into the camp they send you to!  
Or possibly your bunk number.  I can't remember.
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 12:00:14 AM EDT
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The county sheriff used to have a deputy drive the parking lot of the Richmond VA gun shows with a video camera to get license plates.  I presume they ran them to look for warrants, but who knows.

This was at the old Kmart location in the late 90s.
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Cal DOJ does that at gun shows in adjacent States to find California plates which it then provides to CHP so they can look for and pull them over after they cross the border.
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 12:02:53 AM EDT
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Nevada Capital Investment Corporation
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 12:04:12 AM EDT
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Seems like this shit should be a 4th violation to me
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I’m not a fan but they’ve ruled it’s ok. If you’re in public you can be tracked and recorded. It’s why I don’t love license plates to begin with.
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 12:07:34 AM EDT
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Isn't living in a police state grand?  Govt. can track your movements wherever you go with no effort... or warrant... because you have nothing to hide and it's for your own good, right?
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 2:52:12 PM EDT
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I am now wondering if one podunk town on Route 4 has a(n) automatic license plate reader.  POSIT:  my plate got scanned and time stamped as I left Mascoutah, IL and traveled south on Route 4.

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Then the ALPR in Fayetteville scanned my plate and time stamped it.

The software between the two ALPR’s figures out:  “HOLY SHIT!  HOW FAST WAS HE GOING?"

And calculates my average speed between these two locations as say 90 MPH.

The software then has the Fayetteville, IL ALPR “do” the query to the NCIC.

EDIT:  of special note, just on the southern edge of Mascoutah is a place for re-filling anhydrous fertilizer tanks:

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Somebody posted up-thread there was a LPR or cameras installed by or across from the anyhydrous filling spot in their town.





Link Posted: 3/23/2023 2:57:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/23/2023 3:17:14 PM EDT
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When we first got ALPR stuff it automatically ran every plate the system saw via NCIC (to check for stolen/wanted plates,) and via NLETS, which generated an automatic NCIC, OMV, and MOTIONS (now defunct local database) of the registered owner of the vehicle.  Probably what happened to you.
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So they finally got rid of MOTIONS.
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 3:23:55 PM EDT
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National Crime Information Center=DOJ/FBI

Every time you are arrested and booked 3 copies of prints are taken:
1 for State
1 for local and
1 copy for FBI/DOJ

After trial/Dismissal, etc final disposition are also sent to all 3.
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 3:28:45 PM EDT
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https://www.flocksafety.com/products/flock-cameras

https://images.prismic.io/flock-safety/f2b477cd-ded3-42e0-a86b-9c734c7977b7_Flock9531.jpg?auto=compress,format&rect=0,1312,7870,2623&w=1920&h=640

Going to be interesting if someone sues. There was a court ruling that said random running of plates without a RS reason was un-Constitutional.

Some deputy was running plates in the parking lot of the local jail during visitor days and popping people with warrants.
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Not saying you're wrong but.. My understanding is that RS has never been required to run a plate.  

Link Posted: 3/23/2023 3:33:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/23/2023 3:43:19 PM EDT
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www.flocksafety.com. This companies system is in use all across NC.


Even little shit towns around here have these. They are actually pretty amazing.. but scary at the same time.
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 3:44:32 PM EDT
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@WeimaranerDad

https://www.eff.org/pages/automated-license-plate-readers-alpr

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Automated License Plate Readers (ALPRs)

Automated license plate readers (ALPRs) are high-speed, computer-controlled camera systems that are typically mounted on street poles, streetlights, highway overpasses, mobile trailers, or attached to police squad cars. ALPRs automatically capture all license plate numbers that come into view, along with the location, date, and time. The data, which includes photographs of the vehicle and sometimes its driver and passengers, is then uploaded to a central server.

Vendors say that the information collected can be used by police to find out where a plate has been in the past, to determine whether a vehicle was at the scene of a crime, to identify travel patterns, and even to discover vehicles that may be associated with each other. Law enforcement agencies can choose to share their information with thousands of other agencies.

Taken in the aggregate, ALPR data can paint an intimate portrait of a driver’s life and even chill First Amendment protected activity. ALPR technology can be used to target drivers who visit sensitive places such as health centers, immigration clinics, gun shops, union halls, protests, or centers of religious worship.

Drivers have no control over whether their vehicle displays a license plate because the government requires all car, truck, and motorcycle drivers to display license plates in public view. So it’s particularly disturbing that automatic license plate readers are used to track and record the movements of millions of ordinary people, even though the overwhelming majority are not connected to a crime.

 
How ALPRs Work

 Automated license plate readers can be broadly divided into two categories.
Stationary ALPR cameras 

Photo by Mike Katz-Lacabe (CC BY)

These are installed in a fixed location, such as a traffic light, a telephone pole, the entrance of a facility, or a freeway exit ramp. These cameras generally capture only vehicles in motion that pass within view. 

If multiple stationary ALPR cameras are installed along a single thoroughfare, the data can reveal what direction and what speed a car is traveling. If the data are stored over time, they can reveal every time a particular plate has passed a given location, allowing the government to infer that the driver likely lives or works close by.

Stationary cameras can sometimes be moved. For example, surveillance vans or truck trailers can be outfitted with ALPR systems and then parked at strategic locations, such as gun shows or political rallies. 

ALPR cameras are often used in conjunction with automated red-light and speed enforcement systems, and also as a means of assessing tolls on roads and bridges. 
Mobile ALPR cameras

Photo by Mike Katz-Lacabe (CC BY)

These are often attached to police patrol cars, allowing law enforcement officers to capture data from license plates as they drive around the city throughout their shifts. In most cases, these cameras are turned on at the beginning of a shift and not turned off again until the end of the shift. Also, private vendors like Vigilant Solutions capture plate data with mobile ALPRs and then sell that data to police agencies and others. 

In addition to capturing images of passing vehicles, mobile ALPR cameras are effective at capturing license plates of parked cars. For example, a patrol car may drive around a public parking lot capturing hundreds of vehicles’ plates in minutes. 
ALPR Databases 

Most of this ALPR data is stored in databases for extended periods of time—often as much as five years. The databases may be maintained by the police departments, but often they are maintained by private companies such as Vigilant Technologies. Law enforcement agencies without their own ALPR systems can access data collected by other law enforcement agencies through regional sharing systems and networks operated by these private companies. Several companies operate independent, non-law enforcement ALPR databases, contracting with drivers to put cameras on private vehicles to collect the information. These data are then sold to companies like insurers, but law enforcement can also purchase access to this commercial data on a subscription basis. 
Hotlists

Law enforcement agencies will often pre-load a list of license plates that the ALPR system is actively looking for—such as stolen vehicles and vehicles associated with outstanding warrants. Police officers can also create their own hotlists. If the ALPR camera scans a plate on the list, the system sends an alert to the officer in the squad car (if it's a mobile reader) or the agency (if it's a fixed reader). Some hotlists include low-level misdemeanors and traffic offenses. Some agencies use these hotlists to generate revenue by stopping citation scofflaws. 
 What Kinds of Data ALPRs Collect

ALPRs collect license plate numbers and location data along with the exact date and time the license plate was encountered. Some systems are able to capture make and model of the vehicle. They can collect thousands of plates per minute. One vendor brags that its dataset includes more than 6.5 billion scans and grows at a rate of 120-million data points each month.

When combined, ALPR data can reveal the direction and speed a person traveled through triangulation. In aggregate over time, the data can reveal a vehicle’s historical travel. With algorithms applied to the data, the systems can reveal regular travel patterns and predict where a driver may be in the future. The data also reveal all visitors to a particular location. 

The data generally does not include the driver’s name. However, law enforcement officers can use other databases to connect individual names with their license plate numbers. 

In addition to capturing license plate data, the photographs can reveal images of the vehicle, the vehicle’s drivers and passengers, as well as its immediate surroundings—and even people getting in and out of a vehicle. A 2009 privacy impact assessment report indicates that the photographs may even include bumper stickers, which could reveal information on the political or social views of the driver.
How Law Enforcement Uses ALPRs
A time-lapse visualization of the data collected by Oakland Police Department vehicles mounted with license plate readers
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ALPR data is gathered indiscriminately, collecting information on millions of ordinary people. By plotting vehicle times and locations and tracing past movements, police can use stored data to paint a very specific portrait of drivers’ lives, determining past patterns of behavior and possibly even predicting future ones—in spite of the fact that the vast majority of people whose license plate data is collected and stored have not even been accused of a crime. Without ALPR technology, law enforcement officers must collect license plates by hand. This creates practical limitations on the amount of data that can be collected and means officers must make choices about which vehicles they are going to track. ALPR technology removes those limitations and allows officers to track everyone, allowing for faster and broader collection of license plates with far reduced staffing requirements. 

Law enforcement has two general purposes for using license plate readers. 
Real-time investigations

By adding a license plate to a “hot list,” officers can use ALPR to automatically identify or track particular vehicles in real time. Licenses plates are often added to hot lists because the vehicle is stolen or associated with an outstanding warrant. Officers may also add a plate number to the list if the vehicle has been seen at the scene of a crime, the owner is a suspect in a crime, or the vehicle is believed to be associated with a gang. Hot lists often include low-level offenses, too. 
Historical investigations

Since ALPRs typically collect information on everyone—not just hot-listed vehicles—officers can use a plate, a partial plate, or a physical address to search and analyze historical data. For example, an officer may enter the location of a convenience store to identify vehicles seen nearby at the time of a robbery. The officer can then look up those plate numbers to find other locations that plate has been captured. 

Training materials, policies and laws in some jurisdictions instruct officers that a hot-list alert on its own may not be enough to warrant a stop. Officers are instructed to visually confirm that a plate number is a match. Failure to manually confirm, combined with machine error, has caused wrongful stops. 

Law enforcement claims that ALPR data has been used to, for example, recover stolen cars or find abducted children. However, police have also used ALPR data for mass enforcement of less serious offenses, such as searching for uninsured drivers or tracking down individuals with overdue court fees.

The ACLU estimates that less than 0.2 percent of plate scans are linked to criminal activity or vehicle registration issues. Many law enforcement agencies store ALPR data for years, and share it with other law enforcement agencies and federal agencies. 

The length of time that ALPR data is retained varies from agency to agency, from as short as mere days to as long as several years, although some entities—including private companies—may retain the data indefinitely. 
Who Sells ALPR Technology

Vigilant Solutions and ELSAG are the largest ALPR vendors.

Vigilant Solutions' subsidiary Digital Recognition Network, along with MVTrac, are the two main companies hiring contractors to collect ALPR data across the country. The companies then share the commercially-collected data not just with law enforcement but also with auto recovery (aka "repo") companies, banks, credit reporting agencies, and insurance companies.  Data collected by private entities does not have retention limits and is not subject to sunshine laws, or any of the other safeguards that are sometimes found in the government sector.

Some jurisdictions use ALPR technology originally developed by PIPS, which was subsequently sold  to 3M. The ALPR division was more recently acquired by Neology, Inc.
Threats Posed by ALPR

ALPR is a powerful surveillance technology that can be used to invade the privacy of individuals as well as to violate the rights of entire communities.

Law enforcement agencies have abused this technology. Police officers in New York drove down a street and electronically recorded the license plate numbers of everyone parked near a mosque. Police in Birmingham targeted a Muslim community while misleading the public about the project. ALPR data EFF obtained from the Oakland Police Department showed that police disproportionately deploy ALPR-mounted vehicles in low-income communities and communities of color.

Moreover, many individual officers have abused law enforcement databases, including license plate information and records held by motor vehicle departments. In 1998, a Washington, D.C. police officer “pleaded guilty to extortion after looking up the plates of vehicles near a gay bar and blackmailing the vehicle owners.” Police officers have also used databases to search romantic interests in Florida. A former female police officer in Minnesota discovered that her driver’s license record was accessed 425 times by 18 different agencies across the state.

In addition to deliberate misuse, ALPRs sometimes misread plates, leading to dire consequences. In 2009, San Francisco police pulled over Denise Green, an African-American city worker, handcuffed her at gunpoint, forced her to her knees, and searched both her and her vehicle—all because her car was misidentified as stolen due to a license plate reader error. Her experience led the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to rule that technology alone can’t be the basis of such a stop, but that judgment does not apply everywhere, leaving people vulnerable to similar law enforcement errors. 

Aggregate data stored for lengthy periods of time (or indefinitely) becomes more invasive and revealing, and it is susceptible to both misuse and data breach. Sensible retention limits, specific policies about who inside an agency is allowed to access data, and audit and control processes could help minimize these issues. One of the better privacy protections would be for police to retain no information at all when a passing vehicle does not match a hot list. 
EFF’s Work on ALPR

EFF has been investigating and combating the privacy threats of ALPR technology through public records requests, litigation, and legislative advocacy since 2012. 
ALPR Litigation

EFF and the ACLU of Southern California sued the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department and the Los Angeles Police Department after the agencies refused to hand over ALPR data. The agencies claimed the records were exempt from the California Public Records Act because they were investigative records. This argument amounts to claiming that all Los Angelenos are under investigation, a point that both a lawyer for the LAPD and a California Supreme Court Justice agreed sounded “Orwellian” during oral arguments. In 2017, the California Supreme Court ruled in EFF and ACLU’s favor and ordered the case back to the Superior court.

Outside of California, EFF has filed briefs in a lawsuit over the excessive storage collection of ALPR data in the state of Virginia.
ALPR Accountability and Transparency

In 2015, the California legislature passed S.B. 34, a bill that requires ALPR users to protect data, maintain access logs, hold public meetings before starting an ALPR program, implement a usage and privacy policy, and maintain access logs. The law also prohibits public agencies from selling, sharing, or transferring ALPR data except to other public agencies.

EFF has coordinated volunteers to collect ALPR policies across the state of California and to expose agencies failing to comply with the law. EFF has also independently filed public records requests with dozens of agencies to shine light on their use of ALPR data.  
ALPR Security 

EFF investigated more than 100 ALPR cameras operated by law enforcement that were leaking data because of misconfiguration. These cameras were inadvertently publicly accessible through web browsers and Telnet interfaces. After EFF disclosed these vulnerabilities, several agencies in Louisiana and California overhauled their ALPR networks. 

We have also contacted public safety agencies whose ALPR data was exposed online, often on websites accessible to anyone with a web browser, to responsibly disclose the security vulnerabilities we found.
EFF Legal Cases

ACLU of Southern California and EFF v. LAPD and LASD 

Neal v. Fairfax County Police Department
For More Information

You Are Being Tracked (ACLU)

License Plate Readers for Law Enforcement Opportunities and Obstacles (RAND Corporation)

Automated License Plate Readers Threaten Our Privacy (EFF/ACLU)

The Four Flavors of Automated License Plate Reader Technology (EFF) 

 

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The Atlas of Surveillance is a searchable database and map that reveals which technologies, such as drones and automated license plate readers, are used by domestic law enforcement agencies across the United States. Through a combination of crowdsourcing and data journalism, we are creating the largest-ever repository of information on which law enforcement agencies are using what surveillance technologies.


https://atlasofsurveillance.org/

^^^^ that site will give info on what the pd's and such around you are using.
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 3:45:48 PM EDT
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National Crime Information Center=DOJ/FBI

Every time you are arrested and booked 3 copies of prints are taken:
1 for State
1 for local and
1 copy for FBI/DOJ

After trial/Dismissal, etc final disposition are also sent to all 3.
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National Crime Information Center=DOJ/FBI

Every time you are arrested and booked 3 copies of prints are taken:
1 for State
1 for local and
1 copy for FBI/DOJ

After trial/Dismissal, etc final disposition are also sent to all 3.

And also, from what I have heard ... how you don't get a lot of jobs if you have an arrest in your record, which apparently ... never gets expunged. Employer has the NCIC db checked, gets a return that you were arrested, doesn't even talk to you after that, why bother to spend the effort to see if it's something they should really care about.
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 3:47:03 PM EDT
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I saw the movie . . .

Link Posted: 3/23/2023 3:49:13 PM EDT
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The Atlas of Surveillance is a searchable database and map that reveals which technologies, such as drones and automated license plate readers, are used by domestic law enforcement agencies across the United States. Through a combination of crowdsourcing and data journalism, we are creating the largest-ever repository of information on which law enforcement agencies are using what surveillance technologies.


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https://www.eff.org/pages/automated-license-plate-readers-alpr


Automated License Plate Readers (ALPRs)

Automated license plate readers (ALPRs) are high-speed, computer-controlled camera systems that are typically mounted on street poles, streetlights, highway overpasses, mobile trailers, or attached to police squad cars. ALPRs automatically capture all license plate numbers that come into view, along with the location, date, and time. The data, which includes photographs of the vehicle and sometimes its driver and passengers, is then uploaded to a central server.

Vendors say that the information collected can be used by police to find out where a plate has been in the past, to determine whether a vehicle was at the scene of a crime, to identify travel patterns, and even to discover vehicles that may be associated with each other. Law enforcement agencies can choose to share their information with thousands of other agencies.

Taken in the aggregate, ALPR data can paint an intimate portrait of a driver’s life and even chill First Amendment protected activity. ALPR technology can be used to target drivers who visit sensitive places such as health centers, immigration clinics, gun shops, union halls, protests, or centers of religious worship.

Drivers have no control over whether their vehicle displays a license plate because the government requires all car, truck, and motorcycle drivers to display license plates in public view. So it’s particularly disturbing that automatic license plate readers are used to track and record the movements of millions of ordinary people, even though the overwhelming majority are not connected to a crime.

 
How ALPRs Work

 Automated license plate readers can be broadly divided into two categories.
Stationary ALPR cameras 

Photo by Mike Katz-Lacabe (CC BY)

These are installed in a fixed location, such as a traffic light, a telephone pole, the entrance of a facility, or a freeway exit ramp. These cameras generally capture only vehicles in motion that pass within view. 

If multiple stationary ALPR cameras are installed along a single thoroughfare, the data can reveal what direction and what speed a car is traveling. If the data are stored over time, they can reveal every time a particular plate has passed a given location, allowing the government to infer that the driver likely lives or works close by.

Stationary cameras can sometimes be moved. For example, surveillance vans or truck trailers can be outfitted with ALPR systems and then parked at strategic locations, such as gun shows or political rallies. 

ALPR cameras are often used in conjunction with automated red-light and speed enforcement systems, and also as a means of assessing tolls on roads and bridges. 
Mobile ALPR cameras

Photo by Mike Katz-Lacabe (CC BY)

These are often attached to police patrol cars, allowing law enforcement officers to capture data from license plates as they drive around the city throughout their shifts. In most cases, these cameras are turned on at the beginning of a shift and not turned off again until the end of the shift. Also, private vendors like Vigilant Solutions capture plate data with mobile ALPRs and then sell that data to police agencies and others. 

In addition to capturing images of passing vehicles, mobile ALPR cameras are effective at capturing license plates of parked cars. For example, a patrol car may drive around a public parking lot capturing hundreds of vehicles’ plates in minutes. 
ALPR Databases 

Most of this ALPR data is stored in databases for extended periods of time—often as much as five years. The databases may be maintained by the police departments, but often they are maintained by private companies such as Vigilant Technologies. Law enforcement agencies without their own ALPR systems can access data collected by other law enforcement agencies through regional sharing systems and networks operated by these private companies. Several companies operate independent, non-law enforcement ALPR databases, contracting with drivers to put cameras on private vehicles to collect the information. These data are then sold to companies like insurers, but law enforcement can also purchase access to this commercial data on a subscription basis. 
Hotlists

Law enforcement agencies will often pre-load a list of license plates that the ALPR system is actively looking for—such as stolen vehicles and vehicles associated with outstanding warrants. Police officers can also create their own hotlists. If the ALPR camera scans a plate on the list, the system sends an alert to the officer in the squad car (if it's a mobile reader) or the agency (if it's a fixed reader). Some hotlists include low-level misdemeanors and traffic offenses. Some agencies use these hotlists to generate revenue by stopping citation scofflaws. 
 What Kinds of Data ALPRs Collect

ALPRs collect license plate numbers and location data along with the exact date and time the license plate was encountered. Some systems are able to capture make and model of the vehicle. They can collect thousands of plates per minute. One vendor brags that its dataset includes more than 6.5 billion scans and grows at a rate of 120-million data points each month.

When combined, ALPR data can reveal the direction and speed a person traveled through triangulation. In aggregate over time, the data can reveal a vehicle’s historical travel. With algorithms applied to the data, the systems can reveal regular travel patterns and predict where a driver may be in the future. The data also reveal all visitors to a particular location. 

The data generally does not include the driver’s name. However, law enforcement officers can use other databases to connect individual names with their license plate numbers. 

In addition to capturing license plate data, the photographs can reveal images of the vehicle, the vehicle’s drivers and passengers, as well as its immediate surroundings—and even people getting in and out of a vehicle. A 2009 privacy impact assessment report indicates that the photographs may even include bumper stickers, which could reveal information on the political or social views of the driver.
How Law Enforcement Uses ALPRs
A time-lapse visualization of the data collected by Oakland Police Department vehicles mounted with license plate readers
play
Privacy info. This embed will serve content from youtube-nocookie.com
 

ALPR data is gathered indiscriminately, collecting information on millions of ordinary people. By plotting vehicle times and locations and tracing past movements, police can use stored data to paint a very specific portrait of drivers’ lives, determining past patterns of behavior and possibly even predicting future ones—in spite of the fact that the vast majority of people whose license plate data is collected and stored have not even been accused of a crime. Without ALPR technology, law enforcement officers must collect license plates by hand. This creates practical limitations on the amount of data that can be collected and means officers must make choices about which vehicles they are going to track. ALPR technology removes those limitations and allows officers to track everyone, allowing for faster and broader collection of license plates with far reduced staffing requirements. 

Law enforcement has two general purposes for using license plate readers. 
Real-time investigations

By adding a license plate to a “hot list,” officers can use ALPR to automatically identify or track particular vehicles in real time. Licenses plates are often added to hot lists because the vehicle is stolen or associated with an outstanding warrant. Officers may also add a plate number to the list if the vehicle has been seen at the scene of a crime, the owner is a suspect in a crime, or the vehicle is believed to be associated with a gang. Hot lists often include low-level offenses, too. 
Historical investigations

Since ALPRs typically collect information on everyone—not just hot-listed vehicles—officers can use a plate, a partial plate, or a physical address to search and analyze historical data. For example, an officer may enter the location of a convenience store to identify vehicles seen nearby at the time of a robbery. The officer can then look up those plate numbers to find other locations that plate has been captured. 

Training materials, policies and laws in some jurisdictions instruct officers that a hot-list alert on its own may not be enough to warrant a stop. Officers are instructed to visually confirm that a plate number is a match. Failure to manually confirm, combined with machine error, has caused wrongful stops. 

Law enforcement claims that ALPR data has been used to, for example, recover stolen cars or find abducted children. However, police have also used ALPR data for mass enforcement of less serious offenses, such as searching for uninsured drivers or tracking down individuals with overdue court fees.

The ACLU estimates that less than 0.2 percent of plate scans are linked to criminal activity or vehicle registration issues. Many law enforcement agencies store ALPR data for years, and share it with other law enforcement agencies and federal agencies. 

The length of time that ALPR data is retained varies from agency to agency, from as short as mere days to as long as several years, although some entities—including private companies—may retain the data indefinitely. 
Who Sells ALPR Technology

Vigilant Solutions and ELSAG are the largest ALPR vendors.

Vigilant Solutions' subsidiary Digital Recognition Network, along with MVTrac, are the two main companies hiring contractors to collect ALPR data across the country. The companies then share the commercially-collected data not just with law enforcement but also with auto recovery (aka "repo") companies, banks, credit reporting agencies, and insurance companies.  Data collected by private entities does not have retention limits and is not subject to sunshine laws, or any of the other safeguards that are sometimes found in the government sector.

Some jurisdictions use ALPR technology originally developed by PIPS, which was subsequently sold  to 3M. The ALPR division was more recently acquired by Neology, Inc.
Threats Posed by ALPR

ALPR is a powerful surveillance technology that can be used to invade the privacy of individuals as well as to violate the rights of entire communities.

Law enforcement agencies have abused this technology. Police officers in New York drove down a street and electronically recorded the license plate numbers of everyone parked near a mosque. Police in Birmingham targeted a Muslim community while misleading the public about the project. ALPR data EFF obtained from the Oakland Police Department showed that police disproportionately deploy ALPR-mounted vehicles in low-income communities and communities of color.

Moreover, many individual officers have abused law enforcement databases, including license plate information and records held by motor vehicle departments. In 1998, a Washington, D.C. police officer “pleaded guilty to extortion after looking up the plates of vehicles near a gay bar and blackmailing the vehicle owners.” Police officers have also used databases to search romantic interests in Florida. A former female police officer in Minnesota discovered that her driver’s license record was accessed 425 times by 18 different agencies across the state.

In addition to deliberate misuse, ALPRs sometimes misread plates, leading to dire consequences. In 2009, San Francisco police pulled over Denise Green, an African-American city worker, handcuffed her at gunpoint, forced her to her knees, and searched both her and her vehicle—all because her car was misidentified as stolen due to a license plate reader error. Her experience led the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to rule that technology alone can’t be the basis of such a stop, but that judgment does not apply everywhere, leaving people vulnerable to similar law enforcement errors. 

Aggregate data stored for lengthy periods of time (or indefinitely) becomes more invasive and revealing, and it is susceptible to both misuse and data breach. Sensible retention limits, specific policies about who inside an agency is allowed to access data, and audit and control processes could help minimize these issues. One of the better privacy protections would be for police to retain no information at all when a passing vehicle does not match a hot list. 
EFF’s Work on ALPR

EFF has been investigating and combating the privacy threats of ALPR technology through public records requests, litigation, and legislative advocacy since 2012. 
ALPR Litigation

EFF and the ACLU of Southern California sued the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department and the Los Angeles Police Department after the agencies refused to hand over ALPR data. The agencies claimed the records were exempt from the California Public Records Act because they were investigative records. This argument amounts to claiming that all Los Angelenos are under investigation, a point that both a lawyer for the LAPD and a California Supreme Court Justice agreed sounded “Orwellian” during oral arguments. In 2017, the California Supreme Court ruled in EFF and ACLU’s favor and ordered the case back to the Superior court.

Outside of California, EFF has filed briefs in a lawsuit over the excessive storage collection of ALPR data in the state of Virginia.
ALPR Accountability and Transparency

In 2015, the California legislature passed S.B. 34, a bill that requires ALPR users to protect data, maintain access logs, hold public meetings before starting an ALPR program, implement a usage and privacy policy, and maintain access logs. The law also prohibits public agencies from selling, sharing, or transferring ALPR data except to other public agencies.

EFF has coordinated volunteers to collect ALPR policies across the state of California and to expose agencies failing to comply with the law. EFF has also independently filed public records requests with dozens of agencies to shine light on their use of ALPR data.  
ALPR Security 

EFF investigated more than 100 ALPR cameras operated by law enforcement that were leaking data because of misconfiguration. These cameras were inadvertently publicly accessible through web browsers and Telnet interfaces. After EFF disclosed these vulnerabilities, several agencies in Louisiana and California overhauled their ALPR networks. 

We have also contacted public safety agencies whose ALPR data was exposed online, often on websites accessible to anyone with a web browser, to responsibly disclose the security vulnerabilities we found.
EFF Legal Cases

ACLU of Southern California and EFF v. LAPD and LASD 

Neal v. Fairfax County Police Department
For More Information

You Are Being Tracked (ACLU)

License Plate Readers for Law Enforcement Opportunities and Obstacles (RAND Corporation)

Automated License Plate Readers Threaten Our Privacy (EFF/ACLU)

The Four Flavors of Automated License Plate Reader Technology (EFF) 

 

Most recently updated August 28, 2017



The Atlas of Surveillance is a searchable database and map that reveals which technologies, such as drones and automated license plate readers, are used by domestic law enforcement agencies across the United States. Through a combination of crowdsourcing and data journalism, we are creating the largest-ever repository of information on which law enforcement agencies are using what surveillance technologies.


https://atlasofsurveillance.org/

^^^^ that site will give info on what the pd's and such around you are using.



@FlashMan-7k

I searched several that I know of that are using flock and they either don’t show as using a license plate reader technology.. or if they do the vendor is left blank FWIW YMMV
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Automated License Plate Readers (ALPRs)

Automated license plate readers (ALPRs) are high-speed, computer-controlled camera systems that are typically mounted on street poles, streetlights, highway overpasses, mobile trailers, or attached to police squad cars. ALPRs automatically capture all license plate numbers that come into view, along with the location, date, and time. The data, which includes photographs of the vehicle and sometimes its driver and passengers, is then uploaded to a central server.

Vendors say that the information collected can be used by police to find out where a plate has been in the past, to determine whether a vehicle was at the scene of a crime, to identify travel patterns, and even to discover vehicles that may be associated with each other. Law enforcement agencies can choose to share their information with thousands of other agencies.

Taken in the aggregate, ALPR data can paint an intimate portrait of a driver’s life and even chill First Amendment protected activity. ALPR technology can be used to target drivers who visit sensitive places such as health centers, immigration clinics, gun shops, union halls, protests, or centers of religious worship.

Drivers have no control over whether their vehicle displays a license plate because the government requires all car, truck, and motorcycle drivers to display license plates in public view. So it’s particularly disturbing that automatic license plate readers are used to track and record the movements of millions of ordinary people, even though the overwhelming majority are not connected to a crime.

 
How ALPRs Work

 Automated license plate readers can be broadly divided into two categories.
Stationary ALPR cameras 

Photo by Mike Katz-Lacabe (CC BY)

These are installed in a fixed location, such as a traffic light, a telephone pole, the entrance of a facility, or a freeway exit ramp. These cameras generally capture only vehicles in motion that pass within view. 

If multiple stationary ALPR cameras are installed along a single thoroughfare, the data can reveal what direction and what speed a car is traveling. If the data are stored over time, they can reveal every time a particular plate has passed a given location, allowing the government to infer that the driver likely lives or works close by.

Stationary cameras can sometimes be moved. For example, surveillance vans or truck trailers can be outfitted with ALPR systems and then parked at strategic locations, such as gun shows or political rallies. 

ALPR cameras are often used in conjunction with automated red-light and speed enforcement systems, and also as a means of assessing tolls on roads and bridges. 
Mobile ALPR cameras

Photo by Mike Katz-Lacabe (CC BY)

These are often attached to police patrol cars, allowing law enforcement officers to capture data from license plates as they drive around the city throughout their shifts. In most cases, these cameras are turned on at the beginning of a shift and not turned off again until the end of the shift. Also, private vendors like Vigilant Solutions capture plate data with mobile ALPRs and then sell that data to police agencies and others. 

In addition to capturing images of passing vehicles, mobile ALPR cameras are effective at capturing license plates of parked cars. For example, a patrol car may drive around a public parking lot capturing hundreds of vehicles’ plates in minutes. 
ALPR Databases 

Most of this ALPR data is stored in databases for extended periods of time—often as much as five years. The databases may be maintained by the police departments, but often they are maintained by private companies such as Vigilant Technologies. Law enforcement agencies without their own ALPR systems can access data collected by other law enforcement agencies through regional sharing systems and networks operated by these private companies. Several companies operate independent, non-law enforcement ALPR databases, contracting with drivers to put cameras on private vehicles to collect the information. These data are then sold to companies like insurers, but law enforcement can also purchase access to this commercial data on a subscription basis. 
Hotlists

Law enforcement agencies will often pre-load a list of license plates that the ALPR system is actively looking for—such as stolen vehicles and vehicles associated with outstanding warrants. Police officers can also create their own hotlists. If the ALPR camera scans a plate on the list, the system sends an alert to the officer in the squad car (if it's a mobile reader) or the agency (if it's a fixed reader). Some hotlists include low-level misdemeanors and traffic offenses. Some agencies use these hotlists to generate revenue by stopping citation scofflaws. 
 What Kinds of Data ALPRs Collect

ALPRs collect license plate numbers and location data along with the exact date and time the license plate was encountered. Some systems are able to capture make and model of the vehicle. They can collect thousands of plates per minute. One vendor brags that its dataset includes more than 6.5 billion scans and grows at a rate of 120-million data points each month.

When combined, ALPR data can reveal the direction and speed a person traveled through triangulation. In aggregate over time, the data can reveal a vehicle’s historical travel. With algorithms applied to the data, the systems can reveal regular travel patterns and predict where a driver may be in the future. The data also reveal all visitors to a particular location. 

The data generally does not include the driver’s name. However, law enforcement officers can use other databases to connect individual names with their license plate numbers. 

In addition to capturing license plate data, the photographs can reveal images of the vehicle, the vehicle’s drivers and passengers, as well as its immediate surroundings—and even people getting in and out of a vehicle. A 2009 privacy impact assessment report indicates that the photographs may even include bumper stickers, which could reveal information on the political or social views of the driver.
How Law Enforcement Uses ALPRs
A time-lapse visualization of the data collected by Oakland Police Department vehicles mounted with license plate readers
play
Privacy info. This embed will serve content from youtube-nocookie.com
 

ALPR data is gathered indiscriminately, collecting information on millions of ordinary people. By plotting vehicle times and locations and tracing past movements, police can use stored data to paint a very specific portrait of drivers’ lives, determining past patterns of behavior and possibly even predicting future ones—in spite of the fact that the vast majority of people whose license plate data is collected and stored have not even been accused of a crime. Without ALPR technology, law enforcement officers must collect license plates by hand. This creates practical limitations on the amount of data that can be collected and means officers must make choices about which vehicles they are going to track. ALPR technology removes those limitations and allows officers to track everyone, allowing for faster and broader collection of license plates with far reduced staffing requirements. 

Law enforcement has two general purposes for using license plate readers. 
Real-time investigations

By adding a license plate to a “hot list,” officers can use ALPR to automatically identify or track particular vehicles in real time. Licenses plates are often added to hot lists because the vehicle is stolen or associated with an outstanding warrant. Officers may also add a plate number to the list if the vehicle has been seen at the scene of a crime, the owner is a suspect in a crime, or the vehicle is believed to be associated with a gang. Hot lists often include low-level offenses, too. 
Historical investigations

Since ALPRs typically collect information on everyone—not just hot-listed vehicles—officers can use a plate, a partial plate, or a physical address to search and analyze historical data. For example, an officer may enter the location of a convenience store to identify vehicles seen nearby at the time of a robbery. The officer can then look up those plate numbers to find other locations that plate has been captured. 

Training materials, policies and laws in some jurisdictions instruct officers that a hot-list alert on its own may not be enough to warrant a stop. Officers are instructed to visually confirm that a plate number is a match. Failure to manually confirm, combined with machine error, has caused wrongful stops. 

Law enforcement claims that ALPR data has been used to, for example, recover stolen cars or find abducted children. However, police have also used ALPR data for mass enforcement of less serious offenses, such as searching for uninsured drivers or tracking down individuals with overdue court fees.

The ACLU estimates that less than 0.2 percent of plate scans are linked to criminal activity or vehicle registration issues. Many law enforcement agencies store ALPR data for years, and share it with other law enforcement agencies and federal agencies. 

The length of time that ALPR data is retained varies from agency to agency, from as short as mere days to as long as several years, although some entities—including private companies—may retain the data indefinitely. 
Who Sells ALPR Technology

Vigilant Solutions and ELSAG are the largest ALPR vendors.

Vigilant Solutions' subsidiary Digital Recognition Network, along with MVTrac, are the two main companies hiring contractors to collect ALPR data across the country. The companies then share the commercially-collected data not just with law enforcement but also with auto recovery (aka "repo") companies, banks, credit reporting agencies, and insurance companies.  Data collected by private entities does not have retention limits and is not subject to sunshine laws, or any of the other safeguards that are sometimes found in the government sector.

Some jurisdictions use ALPR technology originally developed by PIPS, which was subsequently sold  to 3M. The ALPR division was more recently acquired by Neology, Inc.
Threats Posed by ALPR

ALPR is a powerful surveillance technology that can be used to invade the privacy of individuals as well as to violate the rights of entire communities.

Law enforcement agencies have abused this technology. Police officers in New York drove down a street and electronically recorded the license plate numbers of everyone parked near a mosque. Police in Birmingham targeted a Muslim community while misleading the public about the project. ALPR data EFF obtained from the Oakland Police Department showed that police disproportionately deploy ALPR-mounted vehicles in low-income communities and communities of color.

Moreover, many individual officers have abused law enforcement databases, including license plate information and records held by motor vehicle departments. In 1998, a Washington, D.C. police officer “pleaded guilty to extortion after looking up the plates of vehicles near a gay bar and blackmailing the vehicle owners.” Police officers have also used databases to search romantic interests in Florida. A former female police officer in Minnesota discovered that her driver’s license record was accessed 425 times by 18 different agencies across the state.

In addition to deliberate misuse, ALPRs sometimes misread plates, leading to dire consequences. In 2009, San Francisco police pulled over Denise Green, an African-American city worker, handcuffed her at gunpoint, forced her to her knees, and searched both her and her vehicle—all because her car was misidentified as stolen due to a license plate reader error. Her experience led the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to rule that technology alone can’t be the basis of such a stop, but that judgment does not apply everywhere, leaving people vulnerable to similar law enforcement errors. 

Aggregate data stored for lengthy periods of time (or indefinitely) becomes more invasive and revealing, and it is susceptible to both misuse and data breach. Sensible retention limits, specific policies about who inside an agency is allowed to access data, and audit and control processes could help minimize these issues. One of the better privacy protections would be for police to retain no information at all when a passing vehicle does not match a hot list. 
EFF’s Work on ALPR

EFF has been investigating and combating the privacy threats of ALPR technology through public records requests, litigation, and legislative advocacy since 2012. 
ALPR Litigation

EFF and the ACLU of Southern California sued the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department and the Los Angeles Police Department after the agencies refused to hand over ALPR data. The agencies claimed the records were exempt from the California Public Records Act because they were investigative records. This argument amounts to claiming that all Los Angelenos are under investigation, a point that both a lawyer for the LAPD and a California Supreme Court Justice agreed sounded “Orwellian” during oral arguments. In 2017, the California Supreme Court ruled in EFF and ACLU’s favor and ordered the case back to the Superior court.

Outside of California, EFF has filed briefs in a lawsuit over the excessive storage collection of ALPR data in the state of Virginia.
ALPR Accountability and Transparency

In 2015, the California legislature passed S.B. 34, a bill that requires ALPR users to protect data, maintain access logs, hold public meetings before starting an ALPR program, implement a usage and privacy policy, and maintain access logs. The law also prohibits public agencies from selling, sharing, or transferring ALPR data except to other public agencies.

EFF has coordinated volunteers to collect ALPR policies across the state of California and to expose agencies failing to comply with the law. EFF has also independently filed public records requests with dozens of agencies to shine light on their use of ALPR data.  
ALPR Security 

EFF investigated more than 100 ALPR cameras operated by law enforcement that were leaking data because of misconfiguration. These cameras were inadvertently publicly accessible through web browsers and Telnet interfaces. After EFF disclosed these vulnerabilities, several agencies in Louisiana and California overhauled their ALPR networks. 

We have also contacted public safety agencies whose ALPR data was exposed online, often on websites accessible to anyone with a web browser, to responsibly disclose the security vulnerabilities we found.
EFF Legal Cases

ACLU of Southern California and EFF v. LAPD and LASD 

Neal v. Fairfax County Police Department
For More Information

You Are Being Tracked (ACLU)

License Plate Readers for Law Enforcement Opportunities and Obstacles (RAND Corporation)

Automated License Plate Readers Threaten Our Privacy (EFF/ACLU)

The Four Flavors of Automated License Plate Reader Technology (EFF) 

 

Most recently updated August 28, 2017



The Atlas of Surveillance is a searchable database and map that reveals which technologies, such as drones and automated license plate readers, are used by domestic law enforcement agencies across the United States. Through a combination of crowdsourcing and data journalism, we are creating the largest-ever repository of information on which law enforcement agencies are using what surveillance technologies.


https://atlasofsurveillance.org/

^^^^ that site will give info on what the pd's and such around you are using.



@FlashMan-7k

I searched several that I know of that are using flock and they either don’t show as using a license plate reader technology.. or if they do the vendor is left blank FWIW YMMV

At this point the only way the states stop being a massive electronic surveillance fest (of varying intensity) is a massive solar flare that is strong enough to wipe all electronics and set is back to pre-telegraph days.

Orgs around where I live even have flipping facial recognition going on.

Give the atlas a search for your area. It's creepy.
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Give the atlas a search for your area. It's creepy.
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https://www.eff.org/pages/automated-license-plate-readers-alpr


Automated License Plate Readers (ALPRs)

Automated license plate readers (ALPRs) are high-speed, computer-controlled camera systems that are typically mounted on street poles, streetlights, highway overpasses, mobile trailers, or attached to police squad cars. ALPRs automatically capture all license plate numbers that come into view, along with the location, date, and time. The data, which includes photographs of the vehicle and sometimes its driver and passengers, is then uploaded to a central server.

Vendors say that the information collected can be used by police to find out where a plate has been in the past, to determine whether a vehicle was at the scene of a crime, to identify travel patterns, and even to discover vehicles that may be associated with each other. Law enforcement agencies can choose to share their information with thousands of other agencies.

Taken in the aggregate, ALPR data can paint an intimate portrait of a driver’s life and even chill First Amendment protected activity. ALPR technology can be used to target drivers who visit sensitive places such as health centers, immigration clinics, gun shops, union halls, protests, or centers of religious worship.

Drivers have no control over whether their vehicle displays a license plate because the government requires all car, truck, and motorcycle drivers to display license plates in public view. So it’s particularly disturbing that automatic license plate readers are used to track and record the movements of millions of ordinary people, even though the overwhelming majority are not connected to a crime.

 
How ALPRs Work

 Automated license plate readers can be broadly divided into two categories.
Stationary ALPR cameras 

Photo by Mike Katz-Lacabe (CC BY)

These are installed in a fixed location, such as a traffic light, a telephone pole, the entrance of a facility, or a freeway exit ramp. These cameras generally capture only vehicles in motion that pass within view. 

If multiple stationary ALPR cameras are installed along a single thoroughfare, the data can reveal what direction and what speed a car is traveling. If the data are stored over time, they can reveal every time a particular plate has passed a given location, allowing the government to infer that the driver likely lives or works close by.

Stationary cameras can sometimes be moved. For example, surveillance vans or truck trailers can be outfitted with ALPR systems and then parked at strategic locations, such as gun shows or political rallies. 

ALPR cameras are often used in conjunction with automated red-light and speed enforcement systems, and also as a means of assessing tolls on roads and bridges. 
Mobile ALPR cameras

Photo by Mike Katz-Lacabe (CC BY)

These are often attached to police patrol cars, allowing law enforcement officers to capture data from license plates as they drive around the city throughout their shifts. In most cases, these cameras are turned on at the beginning of a shift and not turned off again until the end of the shift. Also, private vendors like Vigilant Solutions capture plate data with mobile ALPRs and then sell that data to police agencies and others. 

In addition to capturing images of passing vehicles, mobile ALPR cameras are effective at capturing license plates of parked cars. For example, a patrol car may drive around a public parking lot capturing hundreds of vehicles’ plates in minutes. 
ALPR Databases 

Most of this ALPR data is stored in databases for extended periods of time—often as much as five years. The databases may be maintained by the police departments, but often they are maintained by private companies such as Vigilant Technologies. Law enforcement agencies without their own ALPR systems can access data collected by other law enforcement agencies through regional sharing systems and networks operated by these private companies. Several companies operate independent, non-law enforcement ALPR databases, contracting with drivers to put cameras on private vehicles to collect the information. These data are then sold to companies like insurers, but law enforcement can also purchase access to this commercial data on a subscription basis. 
Hotlists

Law enforcement agencies will often pre-load a list of license plates that the ALPR system is actively looking for—such as stolen vehicles and vehicles associated with outstanding warrants. Police officers can also create their own hotlists. If the ALPR camera scans a plate on the list, the system sends an alert to the officer in the squad car (if it's a mobile reader) or the agency (if it's a fixed reader). Some hotlists include low-level misdemeanors and traffic offenses. Some agencies use these hotlists to generate revenue by stopping citation scofflaws. 
 What Kinds of Data ALPRs Collect

ALPRs collect license plate numbers and location data along with the exact date and time the license plate was encountered. Some systems are able to capture make and model of the vehicle. They can collect thousands of plates per minute. One vendor brags that its dataset includes more than 6.5 billion scans and grows at a rate of 120-million data points each month.

When combined, ALPR data can reveal the direction and speed a person traveled through triangulation. In aggregate over time, the data can reveal a vehicle’s historical travel. With algorithms applied to the data, the systems can reveal regular travel patterns and predict where a driver may be in the future. The data also reveal all visitors to a particular location. 

The data generally does not include the driver’s name. However, law enforcement officers can use other databases to connect individual names with their license plate numbers. 

In addition to capturing license plate data, the photographs can reveal images of the vehicle, the vehicle’s drivers and passengers, as well as its immediate surroundings—and even people getting in and out of a vehicle. A 2009 privacy impact assessment report indicates that the photographs may even include bumper stickers, which could reveal information on the political or social views of the driver.
How Law Enforcement Uses ALPRs
A time-lapse visualization of the data collected by Oakland Police Department vehicles mounted with license plate readers
play
Privacy info. This embed will serve content from youtube-nocookie.com
 

ALPR data is gathered indiscriminately, collecting information on millions of ordinary people. By plotting vehicle times and locations and tracing past movements, police can use stored data to paint a very specific portrait of drivers’ lives, determining past patterns of behavior and possibly even predicting future ones—in spite of the fact that the vast majority of people whose license plate data is collected and stored have not even been accused of a crime. Without ALPR technology, law enforcement officers must collect license plates by hand. This creates practical limitations on the amount of data that can be collected and means officers must make choices about which vehicles they are going to track. ALPR technology removes those limitations and allows officers to track everyone, allowing for faster and broader collection of license plates with far reduced staffing requirements. 

Law enforcement has two general purposes for using license plate readers. 
Real-time investigations

By adding a license plate to a “hot list,” officers can use ALPR to automatically identify or track particular vehicles in real time. Licenses plates are often added to hot lists because the vehicle is stolen or associated with an outstanding warrant. Officers may also add a plate number to the list if the vehicle has been seen at the scene of a crime, the owner is a suspect in a crime, or the vehicle is believed to be associated with a gang. Hot lists often include low-level offenses, too. 
Historical investigations

Since ALPRs typically collect information on everyone—not just hot-listed vehicles—officers can use a plate, a partial plate, or a physical address to search and analyze historical data. For example, an officer may enter the location of a convenience store to identify vehicles seen nearby at the time of a robbery. The officer can then look up those plate numbers to find other locations that plate has been captured. 

Training materials, policies and laws in some jurisdictions instruct officers that a hot-list alert on its own may not be enough to warrant a stop. Officers are instructed to visually confirm that a plate number is a match. Failure to manually confirm, combined with machine error, has caused wrongful stops. 

Law enforcement claims that ALPR data has been used to, for example, recover stolen cars or find abducted children. However, police have also used ALPR data for mass enforcement of less serious offenses, such as searching for uninsured drivers or tracking down individuals with overdue court fees.

The ACLU estimates that less than 0.2 percent of plate scans are linked to criminal activity or vehicle registration issues. Many law enforcement agencies store ALPR data for years, and share it with other law enforcement agencies and federal agencies. 

The length of time that ALPR data is retained varies from agency to agency, from as short as mere days to as long as several years, although some entities—including private companies—may retain the data indefinitely. 
Who Sells ALPR Technology

Vigilant Solutions and ELSAG are the largest ALPR vendors.

Vigilant Solutions' subsidiary Digital Recognition Network, along with MVTrac, are the two main companies hiring contractors to collect ALPR data across the country. The companies then share the commercially-collected data not just with law enforcement but also with auto recovery (aka "repo") companies, banks, credit reporting agencies, and insurance companies.  Data collected by private entities does not have retention limits and is not subject to sunshine laws, or any of the other safeguards that are sometimes found in the government sector.

Some jurisdictions use ALPR technology originally developed by PIPS, which was subsequently sold  to 3M. The ALPR division was more recently acquired by Neology, Inc.
Threats Posed by ALPR

ALPR is a powerful surveillance technology that can be used to invade the privacy of individuals as well as to violate the rights of entire communities.

Law enforcement agencies have abused this technology. Police officers in New York drove down a street and electronically recorded the license plate numbers of everyone parked near a mosque. Police in Birmingham targeted a Muslim community while misleading the public about the project. ALPR data EFF obtained from the Oakland Police Department showed that police disproportionately deploy ALPR-mounted vehicles in low-income communities and communities of color.

Moreover, many individual officers have abused law enforcement databases, including license plate information and records held by motor vehicle departments. In 1998, a Washington, D.C. police officer “pleaded guilty to extortion after looking up the plates of vehicles near a gay bar and blackmailing the vehicle owners.” Police officers have also used databases to search romantic interests in Florida. A former female police officer in Minnesota discovered that her driver’s license record was accessed 425 times by 18 different agencies across the state.

In addition to deliberate misuse, ALPRs sometimes misread plates, leading to dire consequences. In 2009, San Francisco police pulled over Denise Green, an African-American city worker, handcuffed her at gunpoint, forced her to her knees, and searched both her and her vehicle—all because her car was misidentified as stolen due to a license plate reader error. Her experience led the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to rule that technology alone can’t be the basis of such a stop, but that judgment does not apply everywhere, leaving people vulnerable to similar law enforcement errors. 

Aggregate data stored for lengthy periods of time (or indefinitely) becomes more invasive and revealing, and it is susceptible to both misuse and data breach. Sensible retention limits, specific policies about who inside an agency is allowed to access data, and audit and control processes could help minimize these issues. One of the better privacy protections would be for police to retain no information at all when a passing vehicle does not match a hot list. 
EFF’s Work on ALPR

EFF has been investigating and combating the privacy threats of ALPR technology through public records requests, litigation, and legislative advocacy since 2012. 
ALPR Litigation

EFF and the ACLU of Southern California sued the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department and the Los Angeles Police Department after the agencies refused to hand over ALPR data. The agencies claimed the records were exempt from the California Public Records Act because they were investigative records. This argument amounts to claiming that all Los Angelenos are under investigation, a point that both a lawyer for the LAPD and a California Supreme Court Justice agreed sounded “Orwellian” during oral arguments. In 2017, the California Supreme Court ruled in EFF and ACLU’s favor and ordered the case back to the Superior court.

Outside of California, EFF has filed briefs in a lawsuit over the excessive storage collection of ALPR data in the state of Virginia.
ALPR Accountability and Transparency

In 2015, the California legislature passed S.B. 34, a bill that requires ALPR users to protect data, maintain access logs, hold public meetings before starting an ALPR program, implement a usage and privacy policy, and maintain access logs. The law also prohibits public agencies from selling, sharing, or transferring ALPR data except to other public agencies.

EFF has coordinated volunteers to collect ALPR policies across the state of California and to expose agencies failing to comply with the law. EFF has also independently filed public records requests with dozens of agencies to shine light on their use of ALPR data.  
ALPR Security 

EFF investigated more than 100 ALPR cameras operated by law enforcement that were leaking data because of misconfiguration. These cameras were inadvertently publicly accessible through web browsers and Telnet interfaces. After EFF disclosed these vulnerabilities, several agencies in Louisiana and California overhauled their ALPR networks. 

We have also contacted public safety agencies whose ALPR data was exposed online, often on websites accessible to anyone with a web browser, to responsibly disclose the security vulnerabilities we found.
EFF Legal Cases

ACLU of Southern California and EFF v. LAPD and LASD 

Neal v. Fairfax County Police Department
For More Information

You Are Being Tracked (ACLU)

License Plate Readers for Law Enforcement Opportunities and Obstacles (RAND Corporation)

Automated License Plate Readers Threaten Our Privacy (EFF/ACLU)

The Four Flavors of Automated License Plate Reader Technology (EFF) 

 

Most recently updated August 28, 2017



The Atlas of Surveillance is a searchable database and map that reveals which technologies, such as drones and automated license plate readers, are used by domestic law enforcement agencies across the United States. Through a combination of crowdsourcing and data journalism, we are creating the largest-ever repository of information on which law enforcement agencies are using what surveillance technologies.


https://atlasofsurveillance.org/

^^^^ that site will give info on what the pd's and such around you are using.



@FlashMan-7k

I searched several that I know of that are using flock and they either don’t show as using a license plate reader technology.. or if they do the vendor is left blank FWIW YMMV

At this point the only way the states stop being a massive electronic surveillance fest (of varying intensity) is a massive solar flare that is strong enough to wipe all electronics and set is back to pre-telegraph days.

Orgs around where I live even have flipping facial recognition going on.

Give the atlas a search for your area. It's creepy.




All in the name of ‘safety’.

Government is an organism that only knows growth.
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 4:01:32 PM EDT
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How does one check their NCIC report?

Oh, I see it's only for more equal members of society.
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 4:16:22 PM EDT
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EDIT:  soooo….WHEW!  I can take my tinfoil hat off now.  It is not necessarily Big Brother watching gunowners.  Big Brother is just watching e’rbody coming and going through Fayetteville, IL.
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Is it more comforting that big brother isn't singling out gun owners, and is just tracking everyone, or less comforting that big brother is tracking everyone but not singling out gun owners?
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Some deputy was running plates in the parking lot of the local jail during visitor days and popping people with warrants.
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Outstanding warrants?

Now THAT's showing some initiative, boy!
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National Crime Information Center=DOJ/FBI

Every time you are arrested and booked 3 copies of prints are taken:
1 for State
1 for local and
1 copy for FBI/DOJ

After trial/Dismissal, etc final disposition are also sent to all 3.
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Close.

It is 1 sent of prints sent to 3 locations.

I would guess less than 60% of case actually show a dispo. That is why NICS delays are so common.
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Freedom of Information Act:
But you must send them a copy of your prints it seems they changed this and filled out form letter.

https://www.justice.gov/oip/make-foia-request-doj


etting Started

The Department of Justice posts a great deal of information on its website so before making a request you might want to look there first.  You may find that the information you are interested in is already posted.  Our FOIA Library also has links to the websites of the Department’s forty components to make finding records easier.

You should also keep in mind that each federal agency handles or processes its own records in response to FOIA requests.  There is no central office in the government that processes FOIA requests for all federal departments and agencies. Therefore, before sending a request to the Department of Justice you should determine whether DOJ is likely to have the records you are seeking.  You can also view the descriptions of the types of records that are maintained by each Department of Justice component. Finally, you can also read the official FOIA regulations of the Department of Justice.

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Link Posted: 3/23/2023 4:38:59 PM EDT
[#25]
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The county sheriff used to have a deputy drive the parking lot of the Richmond VA gun shows with a video camera to get license plates.  I presume they ran them to look for warrants, but who knows.

This was at the old Kmart location in the late 90s.
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wonder if they did R&B festivals
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 4:40:13 PM EDT
[#26]
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Y'all would stroke if you knew about the stuff the feds have on the interstate highways.
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serious question... why not just state what you know? Is there some sort of job secrecy or NDA holding you back?
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 4:41:00 PM EDT
[#27]
To get your NCIC report:

Fillout https://www.justice.gov/ust/file/doj361_form.pdf/download


U.S Department of Justice Certification of Identity
FORM APPROVED OMB NO. 1103-0016
EXPIRES 05/31/2023
Privacy Act Statement. In accordance with 28 CFR Section 16.41(d) personal data sufficient to identify the individuals submitting requests by
mail under the Privacy Act of 1974, 5 U.S.C. Section 552a, is required. The purpose of this solicitation is to ensure that the records of individuals
who are the subject of U.S. Department of Justice systems of records are not wrongfully disclosed by the Department. Requests will not be
processed if this information is not furnished. False information on this form may subject the requester to criminal penalties under 18 U.S.C.
Section 1001 and/or 5 U.S.C. Section 552a(i)(3).
Public reporting burden for this collection of information is estimated to average 0.50 hours per response, including the time for reviewing
instructions, searching existing data sources, gathering and maintaining the data needed, and completing and reviewing the co llection of
information. Suggestions for reducing this burden may be submitted to the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, Office of Management
and Budget, Public Use Reports Project (1103-0016), Washington, DC 20503.
Full Name of Requester 1 ________________________________________________________________________
Citizenship Status 2 __________________________ Social Security Number 3 _____________________________
Current Address _______________________________________________________________________________
Date of Birth _______________________________ Place of Birth ______________________________________
OPTIONAL: Authorization to Release Information to Another Person
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Link Posted: 3/23/2023 4:44:35 PM EDT
[#28]
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Is it more comforting that big brother isn't singling out gun owners, and is just tracking everyone, or less comforting that big brother is tracking everyone but not singling out gun owners?
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I am in the “still collecting more info / data phase “.

Either way, it is still creepy as fuck.

There were several pings that if my memory is correct were also in calendar year 2022.

It got me thinking, “Gee, I don’t remember getting pulled over that many times last year???”


One of those locations or jurisdictions of at least 2 maybe 3 pings to NCIC  were in an area I travel frequently enough through

It also happens to be where an LGS that I frequent is.  It is also where an Academy Sports is.

This particular LGS is right next to I-64, so if a license plate reader was positioned on or near the interstate, most people wouldn’t even give it a second thought or even think “I wonder if that is scanning license plates at that LGS???”

Link Posted: 3/23/2023 4:44:35 PM EDT
[#29]
OP just needs to make up his own License Plate on a piece of cardboard when he goes to this gun range.

Then he won't have to worry about some podunk police department pinging his NCIC file.
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 4:50:04 PM EDT
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Our retired cop who posted above about Fayetteville having an (automated) license plate reader camera on the Route 4 part of the highway just north of that town and then again another camera (s) east of that town has me wondering .

Did my NCIC get pinged a second time as I traveled east out of that town?

And then say 4 to 6 hours later on my trip back home, did either camera ping my NCIC?

Or is there some software that lets the two cameras talk to each other and keep them from over-pinging NCIC.

And ..here's the thing .

Regardless if one or both cameras pinged or did NOT ping NCIC all 4 times on that day, my license plate number is still in their database and is searchable . Forever.


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Most likely the cameras would be part of the same client package, and would be tied to the same online server instance. There probably would be some type of code telling it not to submit a plate more than once every XXX hours.
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 4:51:17 PM EDT
[#31]
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wonder if they did R&B festivals
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Or mosque parking lots???
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 4:53:52 PM EDT
[#32]
In my line of work, I interact with ALPR systems.  One of these companies works with airports, and one of their services is to submit every single license plate entering an airport (that uses the service) to DHS.  If the license plate comes back flagged, it sends an alert that a plate of interest has been flagged.  The salesman told me that most airports take this service as it is all paid for (subscription service and equip) through DHS grants.
Link Posted: 3/23/2023 4:55:20 PM EDT
[#33]
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At this point the only way the states stop being a massive electronic surveillance fest (of varying intensity) is a massive solar flare that is strong enough to wipe all electronics and set is back to pre-telegraph days.

Orgs around where I live even have flipping facial recognition going on.

Give the atlas a search for your area. It's creepy.
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Imagine how quickly it would all be rebuilt, since the knowledge would still exist.  I bet within 10 years we would be back to pre-flare technology.
Link Posted: 4/13/2023 8:59:16 PM EDT
[#34]
I got another look at my NCIC queries today.

There was one from August 29th, 2022 at exactly 1700 hours.  This ping was from the Shiloh, IL police department.

So I was wondering where the heck I was on that date at that time.

I started flipping through my pics.

A-ha!

I was at a members only gunclub shooting trap.  Here is a screenshot:

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And before I left the range, I checked out the new indoor range that was under construction:

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Google maps says it takes 26 minutes to go from this range to Shiloh, IL.

Sooooo…. My best guess is there yet another license plate reader just outside this gun club’s gate.

Which in turn makes me wonder if the state is spying on everybody coming and going to gun ranges in this commie state.

Link Posted: 4/13/2023 10:55:48 PM EDT
[#35]
As you come into Sparta on 154 heading west you will pass the Amateur Trapshooting Association office. Look closely and you will see a wooden post near their entrance with two cameras that point toward traffic.
Link Posted: 4/13/2023 10:59:47 PM EDT
[#36]
Link Posted: 4/13/2023 11:31:14 PM EDT
[#37]
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https://www.flocksafety.com/products/flock-cameras

https://images.prismic.io/flock-safety/f2b477cd-ded3-42e0-a86b-9c734c7977b7_Flock9531.jpg?auto=compress,format&rect=0,1312,7870,2623&w=1920&h=640

Going to be interesting if someone sues. There was a court ruling that said random running of plates without a RS reason was un-Constitutional.

Some deputy was running plates in the parking lot of the local jail during visitor days and popping people with warrants.
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We are free and clear here to run any tag for whatever reason
Link Posted: 4/13/2023 11:47:08 PM EDT
[#38]
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We are free and clear here to run any tag for whatever reason
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Investigate people to see what you can find ...

instead of ...

investigating evidence, to see who you can find.

Even better, it doesn't matter if anyone did anything wrong. It only matters how bad you want them and how much time and effort you're willing to put into the dive.

So, in the end, it doesn't matter if you've done anything wrong, or you deserve it or not.

... and people wonder why nobody respects what's called law.

ETA: learn the traffic bible. Get anyone you want for anything.
Link Posted: 4/14/2023 12:01:05 AM EDT
[#39]
If you were to request a full NCIC query history for most any adult who hasn't been arrested, you'd find they probably have anywhere from a handful up to a few dozen NCIC queries over the span of their life.

Often they're linked to other actual individuals (because demos are so similar, ie every dude named Michael Washington who was born on whatever date).

If you're frequently speeding, or going past LPRs, it'll trigger as well. Add in moving LPRs on cruisers and on repo trucks too...
Link Posted: 4/14/2023 2:16:21 AM EDT
[#41]
In the very fine print on these NCIC query hard copies there was a website listed.

Left cold on purpose:


https://www.omnigo.com

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Ain’t that some future dystopian looking shit?

Might as well be Cyberdyne Systems or Weyland-Yutani  trying to sell that.

Link Posted: 4/15/2023 2:16:28 AM EDT
[#42]
I went back to that private members only gun club today.  It is off a two lane highway.  I walked up and down the side of this highway looking at the power poles searching for cameras.  As I was walking back to the gun club, I spotted this:

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At first glance, I thought it was some solar powered battery charger.

Then the more I thought about it and looked at pictures online, I thought “Wait a second!  Why are there red reflectors on the back of it?  The only reason you put red reflectors on something that is wheeled is to denote the back of it.  That way you don’t rear end it with your car.”


I wasn’t able to see the front of it.


Link Posted: 4/15/2023 2:22:27 AM EDT
[#43]
GWOT opened the door to data sharing in exchange for fed dollars and a new bearcat in the pd's parking lot
Link Posted: 4/15/2023 1:47:25 PM EDT
[#44]
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I went back to that private members only gun club today.  It is off a two lane highway.  I walked up and down the side of this highway looking at the power poles searching for cameras.  As I was walking back to the gun club, I spotted this:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369122/5D49F5F8-2284-4FA8-8F6D-7F3BF64352C2_jpe-2783004.JPG

At first glance, I thought it was some solar powered battery charger.

Then the more I thought about it and looked at pictures online, I thought “Wait a second!  Why are there red reflectors on the back of it?  The only reason you put red reflectors on something that is wheeled is to denote the back of it.  That way you don’t rear end it with your car.”


I wasn’t able to see the front of it.


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I think that your first glance was correct. It's home built; they probably made it on a pre-built car that had the reflectors.
Link Posted: 4/15/2023 1:50:48 PM EDT
[#45]
B and C.


Link Posted: 4/15/2023 1:59:41 PM EDT
[#46]
You better start believing in police states, because you’re living in one.
Link Posted: 4/15/2023 2:07:33 PM EDT
[#47]
Flock camera system, in my town they are a fake looking boulder sitting next to the road.
Link Posted: 4/15/2023 2:48:36 PM EDT
[#48]
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Flock camera system, in my town they are a fake looking boulder sitting next to the road.
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Yeahhhh.,,,

As I was walking back to the gun club yesterday, I was thinking back to the Flock camera I saw recently by the Target store.  It is about the size of a shoebox.  And then there is a solar panel on top.  That might be two foot by two foot.

So as I am looking up at all these telephone poles and noticing the trees, I started thinking “SHIT!  You could put a camera just about anywhere or inside anything and it would never get noticed.”

As I have been googling stuff, I saw one website saying it has software that basically turns any camera into a license plate reader.

My Arlo Go cameras are maybe just a little bit bigger than a billiard ball.

I did some more googling and found some news articles about  that town wanting to place ALPR’s at say Point X.  Then the police Chief was quoted as saying he would like more cameras placed in other strategic places in town.

It looks like it is about $20,000 per camera according to that article.

The first camera got $5,000 paid towards it from the county’s drug seizure fund.

The article went on to say that the DEA would continue running the program that monitors the camera.



Link Posted: 4/15/2023 3:26:16 PM EDT
[#49]
The fact that police hide the cameras shows they are not for safety, making people slow down. They are to make $.
Link Posted: 4/15/2023 3:49:46 PM EDT
[#50]
I live on an island community. We have two bridges to get on/off the island. We have license plate readers at both bridges to record every plate that comes on/off the island at any time.
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