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Link Posted: 1/5/2020 11:33:39 AM EST
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There are about 200 billion stars in the Milky Way, an average sized galaxy.  Probably half to three quarters are orbited by rocky planets.

We can see about 200 billion galaxies.

Extraterrestrial life exists.
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LOL no.  That's not proof.  That's what's known as an "opinion".  Extrapolating from a sample set of 1 to an entire universe, when there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of life anywhere except earth, is not science, and it's not even math.

Full disclosure:  I believe life might exist elsewhere, but await some proof.  Or at least some evidence.  I suspect it will never arrive.

Aliens have not visited earth, ever.  Even if they exist, we are so far from their home planet that we could never, ever meet.  They would have to have a life span measured in thousands of millennia just to get here.  And, why?  So they can watch Dancing with the Stars?
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 4:36:04 PM EST
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LOL no.  That's not proof.  That's what's known as an "opinion".  Extrapolating from a sample set of 1 to an entire universe, when there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of life anywhere except earth, is not science, and it's not even math.

Full disclosure:  I believe life might exist elsewhere, but await some proof.  Or at least some evidence.  I suspect it will never arrive.

Aliens have not visited earth, ever.  Even if they exist, we are so far from their home planet that we could never, ever meet.  They would have to have a life span measured in thousands of millennia just to get here.  And, why?  So they can watch Dancing with the Stars?
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I think that if people can believe in an omnipotent God of the Bible with zero proof, what makes believing in life out in the universe so IMpossible?
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 5:03:19 PM EST
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I think that if people can believe in an omnipotent God of the Bible with zero proof, what makes believing in life out in the universe so IMpossible?
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LOL no.  That's not proof.  That's what's known as an "opinion".  Extrapolating from a sample set of 1 to an entire universe, when there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of life anywhere except earth, is not science, and it's not even math.

Full disclosure:  I believe life might exist elsewhere, but await some proof.  Or at least some evidence.  I suspect it will never arrive.

Aliens have not visited earth, ever.  Even if they exist, we are so far from their home planet that we could never, ever meet.  They would have to have a life span measured in thousands of millennia just to get here.  And, why?  So they can watch Dancing with the Stars?
I think that if people can believe in an omnipotent God of the Bible with zero proof, what makes believing in life out in the universe so IMpossible?
Gods plan of redemption includes man because man is the object of God’s love, mercy, grace, holiness righteousness and justice. He only needs one race to prove Hemself.  God does not deal in redundancies. Another race would be redundant and purposeless. God created us for fellowship, in the end.
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 5:43:38 PM EST
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Gods plan of redemption includes man because man is the object of God’s love, mercy, grace, holiness righteousness and justice. He only needs one race to prove Hemself.  God does not deal in redundancies. Another race would be redundant and purposeless. God created us for fellowship, in the end.
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It’s called FAITH for a reason right?
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 8:53:48 PM EST
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Where's the proof?
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Statistics.  A % so small as to be insignificant, multiplied across infinity, = a whole lot of life.  The question is, will distances and/or timeframes ever allow us to interact with them?
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 9:04:41 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/5/2020 9:09:20 PM EST
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The SR-71 Blackbird was retired 21 years ago.

You don't retire something like that without having something superior replacing it.
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 9:19:05 PM EST
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The SR-71 Blackbird was retired 21 years ago.

You don't retire something like that without having something superior replacing it.
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SR-72? Cause it sure isn't a "tic tac".......
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 9:19:55 PM EST
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The things we know about indicates what we don’t about.
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 9:25:12 PM EST
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Statistics.  A % so small as to be insignificant, multiplied across infinity, = a whole lot of life.  The question is, will distances and/or timeframes ever allow us to interact with them?
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Where's the proof?
Statistics.  A % so small as to be insignificant, multiplied across infinity, = a whole lot of life.  The question is, will distances and/or timeframes ever allow us to interact with them?
I understand what you posted. I also think that there is a great chance that there is extraterrestrial life, possibly and hopefully, even in our own solar system. There is no proof that I'm aware of, however. All I'm requesting is proof. Without proof then statements saying there is definitely extraterrestrial life are faith based and no different than any other religion.
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 9:29:58 PM EST
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Just to put things in perspective.

This is how far our radio transmissions have travelled into our Galaxy.  It is the blue dot.



This is a small glimpse into the Universe from Hubble.  It has been described as looking though your peephole in your front door to the edge of your porch.
There are Galaxies so far away the light may never reach us.



Here is a picture of Earth from Voyager 1 in 2011.



Chances of Alien Life finding us is slim and none and slim hasn't been seen for awhile
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 9:30:55 PM EST
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My guess is the government secret squirrel is happy to stoke/enable the UFO theories from time to time.  That way when someone actually sees something odd in the sky they think aliens, not military.  When people talk about seeing aliens, nobody takes them seriously.
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 9:38:07 PM EST
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Like classified tech is many decades ahead .

Sorry my money is on facebook, google, Tesla, and the 4th year Indian kid at MIT having better tech, than the 10-20 year development cycle of govt contractors.

By the time the government even gets a test vehicle in the air with a live pilot the tech is already 10 years old.

Looking through the F-22, debacle.  Again, these are physics limits, no doubt the govt has some souped up stealth tech or next gen black bird drone in a hanger somewhere, but its still based of the same tech we have today all around us. Even the blackbird, F-117 and B-2 utilized know tech that was in development for decades and was very well documented.

I am not arguing on secret projects, but the claim the govt has something operating that is completely outside the known functional understanding of the scientific community is a stretch.
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Just to play devil’s advocate: this seems to be exactly the common belief in the crypto community.
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 9:48:59 PM EST
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There are about 200 billion stars in the Milky Way, an average sized galaxy.  Probably half to three quarters are orbited by rocky planets.

We can see about 200 billion galaxies.

Extraterrestrial life exists.
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And that is only what we can see or can prove exists
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 9:58:06 PM EST
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There is no Santa Clause.

If you want bleeding edge tech all you need to do is look at the public records.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_SR-72
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-51_Waverider
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-37
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak_Fusion_Test_Reactor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RF_resonant_cavity_thruster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Fusion_Drive

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=49270.0

The reality much like moore's law, we hit peak aviation limits in the 60's based on conventional systems.  Everything since than, has be shavings here in there based on better materials, and better fly by wire instrumentation. But the laws of physics remain the same. Just look at the fact that general aviation commercial aircraft look the same as they did 40 years ago.

If you claim that there is some super secret unconventional propulsion system that the government has developed, then you would need extraordinary evidence beyond grainy youtube videos of wheather ballons or little timmys drones.

Considering the billions of dollars spent on theoretical research annually in pursuit of  alternative propulsion systems, it would be an amazing act of secrecy if the government has managed to keep one secret for decades, and used it spook people in Arizona, and nudie pics of putin.

There are more governments, billionaires, scientists and industries in the world who would love to get a piece of next gen energy, then there are government contractors who can keep their mouths shut.

The facts are also extraordinary propulsion systems, like ant-matter drives, nuclear fusion drives,  generate large signatures and have exotic system requirements, and would be easy to spot and identify.
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This. There is so much independent money out there trying to develop the same things now, the likelihood of our government developing and possessing a next generation technology like that it incredibly low, although not impossible. Probably on the same level as getting it from aliens.
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 10:00:22 PM EST
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LOL no.  That's not proof.  That's what's known as an "opinion".  Extrapolating from a sample set of 1 to an entire universe, when there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of life anywhere except earth, is not science, and it's not even math.

Full disclosure:  I believe life might exist elsewhere, but await some proof.  Or at least some evidence.  I suspect it will never arrive.

Aliens have not visited earth, ever.  Even if they exist, we are so far from their home planet that we could never, ever meet.  They would have to have a life span measured in thousands of millennia just to get here.  And, why?  So they can watch Dancing with the Stars?
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You instantly dismiss his opinion then give one of your own at the end and treat it as fact?

You must believe in God, too.
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 10:07:51 PM EST
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So does that basically mean boomer?
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You shut your whore mouth 13er.
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 10:07:56 PM EST
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I have a hard time believing that we've been working on that kind of tech for decades and nothing has ever leaked out.
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Don't be
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 10:13:23 PM EST
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Where's the proof?
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There are about 200 billion stars in the Milky Way, an average sized galaxy.  Probably half to three quarters are orbited by rocky planets.

We can see about 200 billion galaxies.

Extraterrestrial life exists.
Where's the proof?
Oh that silly ol theory of large numbers again.
Link Posted: 1/5/2020 10:22:26 PM EST
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Of course they do. They sometimes even kill other motorists.
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But come to earth and crash?
Aliens DWI too?
Of course they do. They sometimes even kill other motorists.
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Link Posted: 1/6/2020 8:33:27 AM EST
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It's statistically improbable that we are the only living beings in the universe.
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There are about 200 billion stars in the Milky Way, an average sized galaxy.  Probably half to three quarters are orbited by rocky planets.

We can see about 200 billion galaxies.

Extraterrestrial life exists.
Where’s the proof?
It's statistically improbable that we are the only living beings in the universe.
By the same logic, it’s statistically improbable that any life out there will find us in the humongousness of the universe during the nano-eyeblink of time that we’ve been here.
Link Posted: 1/9/2020 9:25:26 AM EST
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It's statistically improbable that we are the only living beings in the universe.
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yet when creationists say evolution is impossible (mathematically, proven) folks just stick fingers in their ears.  i mean, im fine if you dont choose God, but denying that his fingerprints are literally, everywhere, is just equivalent of saying earth is flat...IMO

as a christian, i dont asssume there are any "aliens"  but i also wont say "God doesnt exist" if ET shows up...
Link Posted: 1/9/2020 9:45:38 AM EST
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It's statistically improbable that we are the only living beings in the universe.
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We have exactly one - ONE - data point.  You cannot estimate population parameters (ie statistics) with one data point.
Link Posted: 1/9/2020 9:51:13 AM EST
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It's just survey crews for the highway that's to be built.
Link Posted: 1/9/2020 9:55:27 AM EST
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Just to put things in perspective.

This is how far our radio transmissions have travelled into our Galaxy.  It is the blue dot.

https://i.imgur.com/uyYLIFvl.jpg

This is a small glimpse into the Universe from Hubble.  It has been described as looking though your peephole in your front door to the edge of your porch.
There are Galaxies so far away the light may never reach us.

https://i.imgur.com/5b9qGm1l.jpg

Here is a picture of Earth from Voyager 1 in 2011.

https://i.imgur.com/4oVtsMHl.jpg

Chances of Alien Life finding us is slim and none and slim hasn't been seen for awhile
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ETA: My error. Wasn’t taking into account Earth’s placement within the provided image.
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