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Posted: 9/14/2022 12:46:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: harder to stall while in the pattern looks cooler https://preview.redd.it/9ral8pwj34z71.jpg?auto=webp&s=6c1744b9f3b506820fbd2a08900f093ac13afa14 No MU-2??? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 12:49:04 PM EDT
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 Honda Jet Takeoff |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 1:09:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a group of people that refused to relinquish their aircraft, and bought the entire inventory of spare parts. So there is a still a small and pretty active group of owners. https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/business-aviation/2009-10-14/owner-stumbles-starship-support-biz  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 1:25:14 PM EDT
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I heard that distinct sound this past weekend.
Looked up and got to enjoy watching a Starship zoom by. Nice to know at least 1 is still flying. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 2:59:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe sound on this is completely fake. Everybody knows that Honda doesn't have synchronizers on that crash box. There is no sound of double clutching, and the sound has gotta be fake. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:00:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I heard that distinct sound this past weekend. Looked up and got to enjoy watching a Starship zoom by. Nice to know at least 1 is still flying. I have seen a Starship flying around here a few times also, correct with the distinct sound. Also, a journalist should be asked what aircraft it was, they always have expert answers.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:06:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are the benefits of having the engines mounted backwards? Theoretically, the design can be more aeronautically efficient. A traditional horizontal stabilizer is always producing negative lift and drag. In practice, no one has ever made it pay off. My boss wanted to buy an Avanti, but I convinced him to go with a more traditional jet. I would have been happy enough to fly it. The cabin is very nice, but they didn't have an extensive maintenance network. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:07:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Piaggio... Naples (FL) airport or a group of neighbors were/are trying to ban the things because they have a distinct sound. I would love to have one, they look cool and are fast as hell. I've flown on one, the cockpit view is pretty great, seemed much better than the PC-12. It’s not nearly in the same class as a PC12. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:10:36 PM EDT
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Quote History I've been in the Hondajet a couple times. It is a nice plane. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:10:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Loud pipes save lives". Maybe John Denver Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I live a few miles from a GA airport. Had a Piaggio go over one evening while I was out for a run. Those things are ridiculously loud. I'm a sucker for pushers, and she was pretty but I can understand why people complain. If it was based out of my airport it would get old fast. "Loud pipes save lives". Maybe John Denver I see what you did there... Also there is a flying starship based out of Aspen. Saw it two weeks ago. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 3:12:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There used to be a Starship based at an airport near where I used to work. I saw it often. Aren't all jets pusher planes ? No. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 4:46:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aren't all jets pusher planes ? Jets not only blow, they also suck. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 4:48:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No MU-2??? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: harder to stall while in the pattern looks cooler https://preview.redd.it/9ral8pwj34z71.jpg?auto=webp&s=6c1744b9f3b506820fbd2a08900f093ac13afa14 No MU-2??? It would have likely made the list, but the entire crew that was sent to measure it is in the hospital with ruptured eardrums. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:35:22 PM EDT
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Always thought the Optica would be cool to fly
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:52:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No MU-2??? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:56:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck the MU-2. When I worked at an FBO as a fueler I hated having to gas up those pieces of shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No MU-2??? For about six months, I worked line service at an FBO that operated several of them. One long body freighter. A mix of long and short bodied charter planes. My life sucked for that six months. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 6:00:52 PM EDT
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I liked the Adam A500 that they used in the Miami Vice movie.
 Adam A500 Aircraft in Movie |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 6:01:22 PM EDT
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Got to see and touch a Starship eons ago at a airshow in Huntsville area. Pretty cool talking to the crew.
Check out a movie, The Dallas Connection. Titties, a Starship with interior shots and more titties. Did I mention titties? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 6:01:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well what is this?! Quote HistoryQuoted: Well what is this?!  Aero-TV: Walter Mitty's Near-Jet - The PJ-II Dreamer Ducted Fan |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 6:05:06 PM EDT
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The OG glass panel equipped cockpit.
 https://www.airlinereporter.com/2011/11/my-quest-to-ride-on-a-beechcraft-starship-my-epic-flight/ |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 6:08:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/14/2022 6:41:29 PM EDT
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GD should feel bad for leaving out the greatest pusher of all time. I shall therefore rescue this thread and restore the honor of the Peacemaker!
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Posted: 9/14/2022 6:55:48 PM EDT
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Those are so cool.
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Posted: 9/14/2022 7:35:10 PM EDT
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In another life, I worked for a Beech dealer for a while.
I've flown the Starship a few times after they first came out. I had to chose to get typed in it, or the Beechjet. S2000 types are pretty rare, BE-400, not so much. Beech had lots of issues during certification (first composite airplane) and the FAA made them overbuild the wings so much that any advantage/weight savings were lost. Beech only ordered 50 sets of engines and avionics for the production run of the Starship. It did nothing the BE-300 (Kingair 300/350) couldn't do for less money when you got right down to it and I was already typed in the BE-300. I saw the writing on the wall and went to Beechjet school. I remember it as being pretty stable, we used it as a camera platform and operated 2 of them for a while. I also flew the Cheyenne 400 once when Piper came around to demo one. Another performing airplane that didn't make it. |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 7:51:59 PM EDT
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I was told those Starships were loud as hell on the inside. The prop noise on either side of the tailcone would reverberate, essentially turning it into a huge speaker, blasting the prop noise throughout the cabin. I've got a family member that was a scientist for Beech Raytheon. The Starship issue became one of his projects. "How to quiet it down". The only thing they could come up with was to add a complete interior active noise reduction system. Tons of little speakers and mics throughout the walls of the cabin, sampling the noise, inverting the sound signature and pumping it back into the cabin. It weighed a bunch, cost about a million dollars, and quieted the Starship down to approximately that of a Kingair. That was it. That killed it. Plus they wanted to sell business jets and the Kingair was alive and well. No need to fuck around with such a problematic plane as the Starship.
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Posted: 9/14/2022 8:07:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are the benefits of having the engines mounted backwards? For backing into parking spots? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 8:35:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GD should feel bad for leaving out the greatest pusher of all time. I shall therefore rescue this thread and restore the honor of the Peacemaker! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/393191/145295_jpg-2526340.JPG Six turning and four burning!  Attached File |
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