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Posted: 11/29/2022 6:48:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would want to have them define "small" farm. These might be 1-5 acres, and all of them combined might not have the output of a single medium sized farm in the US. I don't think most people here understand how small the Netherlands is, how crowded it is, or how intensive their production is. There's nothing comparable like it in the US. They aren't Sri Lanka, these issues should be quite easy to work out. The really stupid part of this is the treaty trying to "preserve" anything in the Netherlands, which is all influenced by millennia of human activity already. The goal should be improvement to better meet human needs. Top-down edicts are always problematic. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 6:54:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lake Erie had a algae bloom that caused the water intakes to be shut of briefly for a couple cities. They blamed it on nitrogen run off from agriculture Which is bullshit. Yes, a portion comes from ag. But a whole bunch comes from runoff from residential lawn treatment and untreated sewage from outdated and poorly run civic treatment systems - yes, untreated sewage is still dumped into waterways on a regular basis. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:25:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like the Dutch OD'd on that AOC kool-aid. well, they voted for those politicians, govt, they get what they deserve. Ultimate stupidity. So did the USA then. What if, all elections, world wide, are rigged? |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:31:00 PM EDT
[#4]
Buy your tulips now...
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:31:42 PM EDT
[#5]
I don’t care
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:41:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which is bullshit. Yes, a portion comes from ag. But a whole bunch comes from runoff from residential lawn treatment and untreated sewage from outdated and poorly run civic treatment systems - yes, untreated sewage is still dumped into waterways on a regular basis. EPA sued the fuck out of Akron, and they’re spending upwards of a billion dollars to curb raw sewage dumping by.......a whopping 10% You read that right , 10 , ten percent . Government is a complete waste of resources on top of being evil |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:44:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The number is about 750 farms that wil be forces to close but they do get about 120-150% of their value as compensation. To be honest I myself would love my house to eminent domain'ed but I get that some people don't want that. They get 120% to 150% of what the government determines the value is, and in return they lose their ability to earn money in the future. What a deal. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:54:59 PM EDT
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Good chance it only gets worse from here on out...however, be of good courage bros.
Find Rest in the ranks of The King.  In a World of War, BE CALM | Dr. David Jeremiah | Matthew 24:6-7 |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:12:08 PM EDT
[#9]
Joe Biden will put a stop to it. I just know he will! |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:52:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dutch farmers are some of the most productive in the entire world. I honestly hope making their way to the US would be an option with that buyout money. If they invest the money in a business here they go to the front of the line. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent-workers/eb-5-immigrant-investor-program Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The number is about 750 farms that wil be forces to close but they do get about 120-150% of their value as compensation. To be honest I myself would love my house to eminent domain'ed but I get that some people don't want that. This is not about climate change but about nitrogen deposition in the surrounding area affecting protected nature reserves that we are treaty bound to protect. We have some sandy land areas with poor soil that are home to certain species that dissapear if the soil gets better and that were the problem lies. I myself say 'fuck it commies' but it is the law and the farms could tecnically stay IF they would be able to not have stuff land next to them but this is often cost prohibative. NL is a microscopic country with one of the highest population densities in Yurp and thus the wold but we are a large produce exporter due to high intensity of our farms. The govenment was fine and pro farmers UNTIL eviromental groups started a test case to forece the gov to act and they won  Like I said I would just say fuck that treaty bullshit but people get all senitive about that. Shithead that did the test case https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/2n-u2MrR_f4bafsLaVCCBa8oLGc/diocontent/157021444/_fitwidth/763?appId=93a17a8fd81db0de025c8abd1cca1279&quality=0.8&desiredformat=webp Dutch farmers are some of the most productive in the entire world. I honestly hope making their way to the US would be an option with that buyout money. If they invest the money in a business here they go to the front of the line. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent-workers/eb-5-immigrant-investor-program Lots move to the US and Canada as wel as Eastern Europe. Dutch farm tech is pretty cutting edge as due to high lands costs ect you need to be really efficient. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:56:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that nature preserve with the starving horses included in this battle? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Completly not my field so no idea but the main issue is with the amount of manure produced and the particulate blowing over to protected areas 'next door' The shit tey want to protect looks like this. I personally not give a shit if it turns in to forest becuase of more fertilizer in the ground. https://www.wandel.nl/media/5m4hosc2/cid1600_hei-paars.jpg?center=0.56133266027258966,0.71882887430590614&mode=crop&width=1280&height=640&rnd=132797419575900000&quality=90&format=jpg Is that nature preserve with the starving horses included in this battle? Yes envio nazis have a weird thing that they want to create nature that is completly devoid of human interaction. Problem is a tiny country and large livestock needs to be able to roam 'n shit |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 9:01:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They get 120% to 150% of what the government determines the value is, and in return they lose their ability to earn money in the future. What a deal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The number is about 750 farms that wil be forces to close but they do get about 120-150% of their value as compensation. To be honest I myself would love my house to eminent domain'ed but I get that some people don't want that. They get 120% to 150% of what the government determines the value is, and in return they lose their ability to earn money in the future. What a deal. No mostly the expert determined value is already about +10% of the market value. You really get a pretty good deal financially but it sucks for those that want to keep the farm as afarm (technically you can stil live there but can't raise farm animals or crops. To quote Cyprus Hill litterally 'cops coming to snach my crops' 
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Posted: 11/29/2022 9:04:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @iggy1337 How many acres of this pristine wilderness are they protecting? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Completly not my field so no idea but the main issue is with the amount of manure produced and the particulate blowing over to protected areas 'next door' The shit tey want to protect looks like this. I personally not give a shit if it turns in to forest becuase of more fertilizer in the ground. https://www.wandel.nl/media/5m4hosc2/cid1600_hei-paars.jpg?center=0.56133266027258966,0.71882887430590614&mode=crop&width=1280&height=640&rnd=132797419575900000&quality=90&format=jpg @iggy1337 How many acres of this pristine wilderness are they protecting? @lorazepam 309000Ha (hectare?) it's not really pristine wildern either but artificcialy manged to be simulation pristine wilderins 
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Posted: 11/29/2022 9:15:47 PM EDT
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Quoted: Why are we fucking with food production? Climate change n shit. As one of Europe’s most prominent farming nations, half of the Netherlands’ emissions come from agricultural activity. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 9:16:34 PM EDT
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This is a big deal and it’s coming to America. Look into Biden’s 30 by 30 plan.
Also lots of people in this thread said the Dutch farmers would do nothing. Have you guys not watched the news? The Dutch farmers have been protesting and shutting down cities for a year now. I’m a American farmer and I can tell you this country will be fucked by 2030. If you’re not producing your own food you should start now. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:02:15 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They get 120% to 150% of what the government determines the value is, and in return they lose their ability to earn money in the future. What a deal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The number is about 750 farms that wil be forces to close but they do get about 120-150% of their value as compensation. To be honest I myself would love my house to eminent domain'ed but I get that some people don't want that. They get 120% to 150% of what the government determines the value is, and in return they lose their ability to earn money in the future. What a deal. Who wouldn't want to sell value farmland for |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:47:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: “Nitrogen Minister”? Holy shit. WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 11:20:23 PM EDT
[#18]
never getting to 500,000,000 without hard work
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Posted: 11/29/2022 11:29:28 PM EDT
[#19]
Fuck the Netherlands or whoever that is
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Posted: 11/29/2022 11:33:14 PM EDT
[#20]
Lol!!!
That’s exactly what Venezuela did! And now they can’t grow their own food for the last 2 decades. Talk about history repeating itself. Communisms first goal is starvation. Well, 2nd to taking the guns. Then comes starvation. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 11:33:17 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Centralized control. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why are we fucking with food production? Centralized control. And these types always use food as a weapon. Always. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 11:50:52 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The number is about 750 farms that wil be forces to close but they do get about 120-150% of their value as compensation. To be honest I myself would love my house to eminent domain'ed but I get that some people don't want that. This is not about climate change but about nitrogen deposition in the surrounding area affecting protected nature reserves that we are treaty bound to protect. We have some sandy land areas with poor soil that are home to certain species that dissapear if the soil gets better and that were the problem lies. I myself say 'fuck it commies' but it is the law and the farms could tecnically stay IF they would be able to not have stuff land next to them but this is often cost prohibative. NL is a microscopic country with one of the highest population densities in Yurp and thus the wold but we are a large produce exporter due to high intensity of our farms. The govenment was fine and pro farmers UNTIL eviromental groups started a test case to forece the gov to act and they won Like I said I would just say fuck that treaty bullshit but people get all senitive about that. Shithead that did the test case https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/2n-u2MrR_f4bafsLaVCCBa8oLGc/diocontent/157021444/_fitwidth/763?appId=93a17a8fd81db0de025c8abd1cca1279&quality=0.8&desiredformat=webp Its likely not just the loss of property. In effect they are killing their career as well because its unlikely they can establish a new farm or take over an existing farm. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 11:59:52 PM EDT
[#23]
Depressing thread.
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Posted: 11/30/2022 12:09:34 AM EDT
[#24]
Somebody should be shooting by now.
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Posted: 11/30/2022 12:30:05 AM EDT
[#25]
In before Dutch mail order brides.
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Posted: 11/30/2022 12:38:08 AM EDT
[#26]
Farmers have lots of equipment to dig tank traps, tiger pits, string concertina wire, and otherwise create area denial...Diesel and other chemicals, etc. Preparation is the key.
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Posted: 11/30/2022 12:45:21 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope the farmers are planning It's called plannting, sir. |
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Posted: 11/30/2022 12:48:02 AM EDT
[#28]
But don't worry, the elites won't miss any meals or suffer from a freezing home.
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Posted: 11/30/2022 12:56:19 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if the citizenry has arms over there in the Netherlands, cuz they’re gonna need ‘em. There was a lot of stuff left laying around that made its way into barns and basements after WW2. But the current condition is a big question. |
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Posted: 11/30/2022 1:03:52 AM EDT
[#30]
We deserve the bad things that happen to us.
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Posted: 11/30/2022 1:14:50 AM EDT
[#31]
World Economic Fascists and their defenders need to learn a lesson to NOT be Tyrants.
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Posted: 11/30/2022 1:15:12 AM EDT
[#32]
Man made famine here we come
Time for your own exit from the hellspawns running the EU |
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Posted: 11/30/2022 1:16:52 AM EDT
[#33]
 Tristate City - The Reason to Bankrupt Dutch Farmers - The Netherlands Well then. |
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Posted: 11/30/2022 1:18:43 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There was a lot of stuff left laying around that made its way into barns and basements after WW2. But the current condition is a big question. Yes it did. Took a wrong turn and ended up at a farm. They all have stuff they plowed up. Including piles of 75mm HE for Pack 75s. |
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Posted: 11/30/2022 1:40:41 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think China can feed themselves. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's almost as if the elites *want* poverty and starvation for some reason. I'm sure China, who isn't really subject to these sorts of climate actions, will step up and sell the world food. I don't think China can feed themselves. Once the WEF pushes food prices high enough, it'll be profitable enough for China to do a better job of it. And heck... maybe that's why the WEF is so hell-bent on causing starvation, and why they continue to do it in ways that hurts the Western world, but not so much China. Maybe they want depopulation, maybe they're in China's pocket books. Maybe both, who knows. |
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Posted: 11/30/2022 4:16:20 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Once the WEF pushes food prices high enough, it'll be profitable enough for China to do a better job of it. And heck... maybe that's why the WEF is so hell-bent on causing starvation, and why they continue to do it in ways that hurts the Western world, but not so much China. Maybe they want depopulation, maybe they're in China's pocket books. Maybe both, who knows. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's almost as if the elites *want* poverty and starvation for some reason. I'm sure China, who isn't really subject to these sorts of climate actions, will step up and sell the world food. I don't think China can feed themselves. Once the WEF pushes food prices high enough, it'll be profitable enough for China to do a better job of it. And heck... maybe that's why the WEF is so hell-bent on causing starvation, and why they continue to do it in ways that hurts the Western world, but not so much China. Maybe they want depopulation, maybe they're in China's pocket books. Maybe both, who knows. There's no "maybe". The Chinese suck at innovating new technology, but are great at playing the long term game. |
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Posted: 11/30/2022 5:24:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no idea about their taxes, but taxes on farmland here is nothing Wish I could say the same. |
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Posted: 11/30/2022 9:03:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/30/2022 7:31:16 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are we fucking with food production? Really? Kill usable energy. More people die from cold than from heat. Kill excess food. Why not add some starvation too. These fuckers are wanting people dead. |
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Posted: 11/30/2022 7:38:52 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its likely not just the loss of property. In effect they are killing their career as well because its unlikely they can establish a new farm or take over an existing farm. It’s the loss of a livelihood. It’s the loss of the land. It’s the loss of a particular lifestyle that non-farmers will never understand. It’s the loss of family history. Of connection to that piece of property. Memories. Sweat. Tears. Blood. I’ll die in a pile of brass before the government gets my land. |
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Posted: 11/30/2022 7:48:36 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Then starve you stupid m-fuckers.  You think the folks making the rules are going to do without? |
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Posted: 11/30/2022 7:52:11 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Too much of it can really wreak havoc on waterways, since it is a nutrient, overgrowth of certain species of plant life and algae blooms. So I'm assuming their issue is runoff. 
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Posted: 11/30/2022 9:52:40 PM EDT
[#43]
I hope this works out for them as well as Europe boycotting natural gas.
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Posted: 12/8/2022 8:58:41 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You think the folks making the rules are going to do without? |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 9:10:23 AM EDT
[#45]
Isn't nitrogen and carbon dioxide literally plant food...
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Posted: 12/8/2022 9:11:54 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: IF this actually comes to pass, we shall see what those farmers are made of. Nothing. They had their chance to rebel. Now the government has corrected the flaws in their plans and will kill them. People don't seem to quite understand the whole concept of watering the Tree of Liberty for some reason... |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 9:14:11 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Whats the difference between this and blacks forcibly removing white farmers from their farmer in South Africa, Zimbabwe etc? Well they're both Commies so... nothing. It's all a stepping stone towards the Sovietization of the world. |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 9:15:23 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: new zealand govt is going to tax farmers on emissions. We are not far behind. Our dear leader is also a klaus schwab ball gargler. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/432086/Poem_by_Martin_Niemoeller_at_the_the_Hol-2617626.JPG and this is why 'they' will win. Well you fucking turnips decided to turn in your guns quietly instead of taking the fight to them; what level of sympathy do you actually expect? |
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Posted: 12/8/2022 9:16:44 AM EDT
[#49]
Where are the people fed by those farms supposed to get their food?
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Posted: 12/8/2022 9:29:56 AM EDT
[#50]
I guess we’ll see if there are any Europeans with a set of balls left on that continent. I bet there are still some WW2 caches around here and there. Nah…there are no Europeans with balls left on that continent.
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