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Posted: 8/11/2016 1:24:57 PM EDT
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The same gun would be 10+1 in 9mm... with the same 1 spare mag you're looking at 21 versus 17... or almost 25% moar chances to stop the fight.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its 8+1 with a spare mag. And it carries more comfortably than my g17. I artee you give up some rounds to certain other guns but not a g36 or this shield. The same gun would be 10+1 in 9mm... with the same 1 spare mag you're looking at 21 versus 17... or almost 25% moar chances to stop the fight. Unless my spare mag Is a scary black Wilson 10 rounder
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Posted: 8/11/2016 1:38:45 PM EDT
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I would get both... why not? shot placement though is a poor comeback.. who is going to be able to think like that when someone pulls a gun on them,, most people will shard themselves, then if they are lucky be able to pull their weapon out half assed while attempting to stay alive and fire.
sorry it doesnt work like: oh $hit.. someone pulled a gun on me, i need to pull my weapon out and shoot them in the XXX |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 1:41:03 PM EDT
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. Dumbest comment ever . And I've read ALL of Gym's posts . |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 1:41:54 PM EDT
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Dumbest comment ever . And I've read ALL of Gym's posts . Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. Dumbest comment ever . And I've read ALL of Gym's posts . Okay, make your case for a .45ACP carry gun. I'll wait. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 1:43:49 PM EDT
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Okay, make your case for a .45ACP carry gun. I'll wait. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. Dumbest comment ever . And I've read ALL of Gym's posts . Okay, make your case for a .45ACP carry gun. I'll wait. It goes BANG! And kills things. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 1:45:18 PM EDT
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It goes BANG! And kills things. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. Dumbest comment ever . And I've read ALL of Gym's posts . Okay, make your case for a .45ACP carry gun. I'll wait. It goes BANG! And kills things. Yep. And a gun the same size in 9X19 goes bang and stops things (killing is incidental and not really relevant) more times between reloads. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 1:49:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The same gun would be 10+1 in 9mm... with the same 1 spare mag you're looking at 21 versus 17... or almost 25% moar chances to stop the fight. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Its 8+1 with a spare mag. And it carries more comfortably than my g17. I artee you give up some rounds to certain other guns but not a g36 or this shield. The same gun would be 10+1 in 9mm... with the same 1 spare mag you're looking at 21 versus 17... or almost 25% moar chances to stop the fight.
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Posted: 8/11/2016 1:51:14 PM EDT
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Again due to the eliteness and skill of those who generally carry .45acp, we need way fewer rounds. 1 round per bad guy usually does it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its 8+1 with a spare mag. And it carries more comfortably than my g17. I artee you give up some rounds to certain other guns but not a g36 or this shield. The same gun would be 10+1 in 9mm... with the same 1 spare mag you're looking at 21 versus 17... or almost 25% moar chances to stop the fight. Well, nursing homes usually are fairly safe, so there's that.
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Posted: 8/11/2016 1:52:49 PM EDT
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Kinda like gun free zones are usually safe? :P
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Posted: 8/11/2016 2:21:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, nursing homes usually are fairly safe, so there's that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Its 8+1 with a spare mag. And it carries more comfortably than my g17. I artee you give up some rounds to certain other guns but not a g36 or this shield. The same gun would be 10+1 in 9mm... with the same 1 spare mag you're looking at 21 versus 17... or almost 25% moar chances to stop the fight. Well, nursing homes usually are fairly safe, so there's that.   *ducks on a pond  |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 2:27:49 PM EDT
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Yep. And a gun the same size in 9X19 goes bang and stops things (killing is incidental and not really relevant) more times between reloads. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. Dumbest comment ever . And I've read ALL of Gym's posts . Okay, make your case for a .45ACP carry gun. I'll wait. It goes BANG! And kills things. Yep. And a gun the same size in 9X19 goes bang and stops things (killing is incidental and not really relevant) more times between reloads. I don't plan to carry one into combat and I highly doubt I will get in a fight that will require any reloading. YMMV |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 2:44:17 PM EDT
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Some days I wanna ask for my membership dues back.
After the Die Hard movies started, some folks just can't comprehend that there are a lot of folks still carrying modern 1911's. I have the 9mm Shield. Sweet little gun. I want the 45 since I have ammo for it too. Looks like the grip texture has been significantly improved, not that I had any complaints about the texture on the 9mm. The only thing that concerns me on the 45 is that it's thicker across the slide and the real appeal to me has always been how slender the Shield is. It just slides right in my front pocket. Julie Golub from S&W has a youtube video where she talks about it. She's almost too nice, almost annoying, but she points out the differences without the typical attitude. 
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Posted: 8/11/2016 3:01:54 PM EDT
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Some bullet didn't get enough of a powder charge at the factory, a one in a billion chance, and you use that as justification> You realize the exact same problem can happen to ANY round in existence? That's a manufacturing issue not a round issue.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Two months ago there was a shooting with NYPD where a guys carHart jacket had a few 9mm ammo fail to penetrate the jacket. While this was probably an ammo problem, it still happend.
Some bullet didn't get enough of a powder charge at the factory, a one in a billion chance, and you use that as justification> You realize the exact same problem can happen to ANY round in existence? That's a manufacturing issue not a round issue.http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nypd-police-bullets-didn-bounce-knife-wielding-psycho-article-1.2659348 https://youtu.be/A4FqEEgq9eA |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 3:07:41 PM EDT
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It didn't happen. The initial rumors were wrong. The ammunition functioned perfectly and was not hindered by the coat. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nypd-police-bullets-didn-bounce-knife-wielding-psycho-article-1.2659348 https://youtu.be/A4FqEEgq9eA Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Two months ago there was a shooting with NYPD where a guys carHart jacket had a few 9mm ammo fail to penetrate the jacket. While this was probably an ammo problem, it still happend.
Some bullet didn't get enough of a powder charge at the factory, a one in a billion chance, and you use that as justification> You realize the exact same problem can happen to ANY round in existence? That's a manufacturing issue not a round issue.http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nypd-police-bullets-didn-bounce-knife-wielding-psycho-article-1.2659348 https://youtu.be/A4FqEEgq9eA So basically the bullet penetrated the front of the jacket, through the thug, but didn't exit the back of the jacket. Like properly designed expanding ammo. Gee who'd have thunk? |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 3:09:42 PM EDT
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So basically the bullet penetrated the front of the jacket, through the thug, but didn't exit the back of the jacket. Like properly designed expanding ammo. Gee who'd have thunk? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Two months ago there was a shooting with NYPD where a guys carHart jacket had a few 9mm ammo fail to penetrate the jacket. While this was probably an ammo problem, it still happend.
Some bullet didn't get enough of a powder charge at the factory, a one in a billion chance, and you use that as justification> You realize the exact same problem can happen to ANY round in existence? That's a manufacturing issue not a round issue.http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nypd-police-bullets-didn-bounce-knife-wielding-psycho-article-1.2659348 https://youtu.be/A4FqEEgq9eA So basically the bullet penetrated the front of the jacket, through the thug, but didn't exit the back of the jacket. Like properly designed expanding ammo. Gee who'd have thunk? But .45ACP is so powerful that even the rumors tear limbs off....
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Posted: 8/11/2016 3:14:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But .45ACP is so powerful that even the rumors tear limbs off.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Two months ago there was a shooting with NYPD where a guys carHart jacket had a few 9mm ammo fail to penetrate the jacket. While this was probably an ammo problem, it still happend. Some bullet didn't get enough of a powder charge at the factory, a one in a billion chance, and you use that as justification> You realize the exact same problem can happen to ANY round in existence? That's a manufacturing issue not a round issue.http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nypd-police-bullets-didn-bounce-knife-wielding-psycho-article-1.2659348 https://youtu.be/A4FqEEgq9eA So basically the bullet penetrated the front of the jacket, through the thug, but didn't exit the back of the jacket. Like properly designed expanding ammo. Gee who'd have thunk? But .45ACP is so powerful that even the rumors tear limbs off.... |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 3:29:25 PM EDT
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I carry a G41 (That is the Glock 45 with the 5.3 " barrel) so Im all fucked up in the head. Lighter than the 1911 I used to lug around.
any...back to the caliber argument... Taking my woman out to try a G19 and a G30 to see which one she shoots better. The one she likes better is the one Ill get her. Just shoot what you like and who gives a fuck |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 4:21:08 PM EDT
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Just shoot what you like and who gives a fuck
Best answer when choosing a caliber for a sub compact single stack. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 5:49:31 PM EDT
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Best answer when choosing a caliber for a sub compact single stack. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just shoot what you like and who gives a fuck
Best answer when choosing a caliber for a sub compact single stack. Or any weapon for that matter. Shoot whatever you shoot well. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 6:01:48 PM EDT
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Not wrong. The .45ACP is a great cartridge, fun as shit at the range, super cool suppressed. But in a carry gun you're either adding size/weight or giving up capacity (or both) in exchange for nothing useful. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong Not wrong. The .45ACP is a great cartridge, fun as shit at the range, super cool suppressed. But in a carry gun you're either adding size/weight or giving up capacity (or both) in exchange for nothing useful. Any 45acp handgun is much more accurate in my hand than most 9mms. I don't know if it's me or the guns, but that's enough reason for me to prefer 45acp for carry and HD. |
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Posted: 8/11/2016 6:04:06 PM EDT
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Not really. .45ACP won't fit in a gun that could realistically be called "subcompact". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.45ACP in a subcompact carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong There. Now it's right. Not really. .45ACP won't fit in a gun that could realistically be called "subcompact". The 45 Shield is barely any bigger than the 9mm version. It holds 6 in the flush mag which is the same as the .40 and one less than the 9mm model. |
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