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Posted: 2/10/2023 7:34:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2 options, China launched a little one to give PedoJoe a chance to redeem himself. Balloon is of US origin, same reason. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 7:36:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've worked in both the Arctic and Antarctic and I can assure you the risk is far overstated. The sled dogs almost never become infected with alien creatures from crashed UFO's, which run around eating scientists. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 7:36:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was "cylindrical" and "silverish grey," ABC's Martha Raddatz was told. ABC News Chief Global Affairs Correspondent Martha Raddatz first reported that when fighters were scrambled, the pilots did visuals, got images and said there was no sign the object had propulsion. It was described as "cylindrical and silver-ish gray" and seemed to be floating, a U.S. official said. Asked if was "balloon-like," the official said, "All I say is that it wasn't 'flying' with any sort of propulsion, so if that is 'balloon-like' well -- we just don't have enough at this point." 
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Posted: 2/10/2023 7:36:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/10/2023 7:38:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/10/2023 7:40:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could be Russian Why would they want PedoPeter to look good? |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 7:45:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would they want PedoPeter to look good? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Could be Russian Why would they want PedoPeter to look good? Amazing how much space that dude has in your head rent free. Is it possible that this is another Chinese intelligence gathering attempt? Misidentified weather balloon or amateur radio balloon like someone else already posed? Seems more likely than Russia sending a drone for us to shoot down intentionally so the president "looks good". |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:02:37 PM EDT
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Sounding more and more like it was possibly a NWS balloon now. Over reaction on the part of NORAD as a knee jerk to the intel balloon honestly.
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:04:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounding more and more like it was possibly a NWS balloon now. Over reaction on the part of NORAD as a knee jerk to the intel balloon honestly. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:09:31 PM EDT
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Cylindrical shaped floating object the size of a car?
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:11:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:16:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Link? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sounding more and more like it was possibly a NWS balloon now. Over reaction on the part of NORAD as a knee jerk to the intel balloon honestly. https://twitter.com/wildweatherdan/status/1624161750814711826?s=20
So these balloons are designed to transmit on their way up to 100k feet then pop and fall back to earth. Two are launched daily from Nome Alaska. One stopped transmitting data after only transmitting 100mb which apparently is unusual. That is what I am gathering from those tweets, I have no idea what the expected amount of data is though. The dude tweeting is a meteorologist. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:21:27 PM EDT
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Someone post the austin powers dick radar return
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:30:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://twitter.com/wildweatherdan/status/1624161750814711826?s=20
So these balloons are designed to transmit on their way up to 100k feet then pop and fall back to earth. Two are launched daily from Nome Alaska. One stopped transmitting data after only transmitting 100mb which apparently is unusual. That is what I am gathering from those tweets, I have no idea what the expected amount of data is though. The dude tweeting is a meteorologist. SOOO...... ,they possibly shot down a locally launched weather balloon ? Shapes don't match, so questionable . |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:35:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SOOO...... ,they possibly shot down a locally launched weather balloon ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://twitter.com/wildweatherdan/status/1624161750814711826?s=20
So these balloons are designed to transmit on their way up to 100k feet then pop and fall back to earth. Two are launched daily from Nome Alaska. One stopped transmitting data after only transmitting 100mb which apparently is unusual. That is what I am gathering from those tweets, I have no idea what the expected amount of data is though. The dude tweeting is a meteorologist. SOOO...... ,they possibly shot down a locally launched weather balloon ? Yes that is a possibility. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:39:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So a car sized object?? Pretty small for radar I'd think. hell my 20 yr old sonar can watch my sinker go down over 100 ft, |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:40:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes that is a possibility. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: https://twitter.com/wildweatherdan/status/1624161750814711826?s=20
So these balloons are designed to transmit on their way up to 100k feet then pop and fall back to earth. Two are launched daily from Nome Alaska. One stopped transmitting data after only transmitting 100mb which apparently is unusual. That is what I am gathering from those tweets, I have no idea what the expected amount of data is though. The dude tweeting is a meteorologist. SOOO...... ,they possibly shot down a locally launched weather balloon ? Yes that is a possibility.  |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:41:25 PM EDT
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So we’re just blinding shooting down flying objects now without IDing them first? Yeah I’m calling bullshit on that.
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:43:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:44:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So we’re just blinding shooting down flying objects now without IDing them first? Yeah I’m calling bullshit on that. It sounds like it was identified. As an object in our airspace that wasn't identifiable, days after an intelligence gathering platform transited our nation. Why is that reaction surprising? |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:54:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySoooo, it had no propulsion, yet our fighter jets "flew alongside" of it? "Ryder said American pilots who flew alongside the latest object before it was downed determined that no human was aboard. He added it was incapable of maneuvering and did not resemble an airplane" Exactly how does a jet flying at a speed of hundreds of miles per hour fly "alongside" of an object with no propulsion? |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:57:14 PM EDT
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So in the span of a week, our fighter jets have shot down two airborne craft inside the boundary of the USA.
When's the last time something similar has occurred? WWII? |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:59:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So in the span of a week, our fighter jets have shot down two airborne craft inside the boundary of the USA. When's the last time something similar has occurred? WWII? WW2, a P-63 shot down a japanese ballon bomb over the continental US-Nevada.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:01:12 PM EDT
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What if there are millions of balloons to be released?
Like a balloon Banzai charge? |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:03:10 PM EDT
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We need to fire an awful lot of people in the federal government.
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:05:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It sounds like it was identified. As an object in our airspace that wasn't identifiable, days after an intelligence gathering platform transited our nation. Why is that reaction surprising? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So we’re just blinding shooting down flying objects now without IDing them first? Yeah I’m calling bullshit on that. It sounds like it was identified. As an object in our airspace that wasn't identifiable, days after an intelligence gathering platform transited our nation. Why is that reaction surprising? Considering commercial airliners fly at 40,000 feet & given the technology we have I find it hard to believe that they don’t know exactly what they were shooting down. But that’s just my opinion 
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:06:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Amazing how much space that dude has in your head rent free. Is it possible that this is another Chinese intelligence gathering attempt? Misidentified weather balloon or amateur radio balloon like someone else already posed? Seems more likely than Russia sending a drone for us to shoot down intentionally so the president "looks good". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Could be Russian Why would they want PedoPeter to look good? Amazing how much space that dude has in your head rent free. Is it possible that this is another Chinese intelligence gathering attempt? Misidentified weather balloon or amateur radio balloon like someone else already posed? Seems more likely than Russia sending a drone for us to shoot down intentionally so the president "looks good". I was arguing against it being Russian, thanks for reading. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:12:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Considering commercial airliners fly at 40,000 feet & given the technology we have I find it hard to believe that they don’t know exactly what they were shooting down. But that’s just my opinion Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So we’re just blinding shooting down flying objects now without IDing them first? Yeah I’m calling bullshit on that. It sounds like it was identified. As an object in our airspace that wasn't identifiable, days after an intelligence gathering platform transited our nation. Why is that reaction surprising? Considering commercial airliners fly at 40,000 feet & given the technology we have I find it hard to believe that they don’t know exactly what they were shooting down. But that’s just my opinion I guess identifying something as NOT a commercial airliner, NOT a US military asset, NOT responding, NOT manned, and inside our controlled airspace is identification enough in my mind. Not trying to be argumentative or anything, just offering a different perspective. I don't see the need or possibility for 100% verification of an item when you're limited to radar return and visual observation at high speed and 40k feet altitude if you're able to rule the things it isn't. Even if it ends up being an errant weather service balloon from Nome that malfunctioned. I wouldn't expect an intelligence gathering platform to be announcing its presence and identity. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:12:48 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was arguing against it being Russian, thanks for reading. You're right, apologies. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:14:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess identifying something as NOT a commercial airliner, NOT a US military asset, NOT responding, NOT manned, and inside our controlled airspace is identification enough in my mind. Not trying to be argumentative or anything, just offering a different perspective. I don't see the need or possibility for 100% verification of an item when you're limited to radar return and visual observation at high speed and 40k feet altitude if you're able to rule the things it isn't. Even if it ends up being an errant weather service balloon from Nome that malfunctioned. I wouldn't expect an intelligence gathering platform to be announcing its presence and identity. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So we’re just blinding shooting down flying objects now without IDing them first? Yeah I’m calling bullshit on that. It sounds like it was identified. As an object in our airspace that wasn't identifiable, days after an intelligence gathering platform transited our nation. Why is that reaction surprising? Considering commercial airliners fly at 40,000 feet & given the technology we have I find it hard to believe that they don’t know exactly what they were shooting down. But that’s just my opinion I guess identifying something as NOT a commercial airliner, NOT a US military asset, NOT responding, NOT manned, and inside our controlled airspace is identification enough in my mind. Not trying to be argumentative or anything, just offering a different perspective. I don't see the need or possibility for 100% verification of an item when you're limited to radar return and visual observation at high speed and 40k feet altitude if you're able to rule the things it isn't. Even if it ends up being an errant weather service balloon from Nome that malfunctioned. I wouldn't expect an intelligence gathering platform to be announcing its presence and identity. To be clear, I have no problem with us shooting it down. I just want to know what it is. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:19:06 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Could be Russian Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 2 options, China launched a little one to give PedoJoe a chance to redeem himself. Balloon is of US origin, same reason. Was it full of diesel smoke? |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:27:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just want to know what it is. Same here. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:32:45 PM EDT
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Ok it's been what, 7 hours since shooting "the object" down.
And nobody is any the wiser (outside of the government) on what the fuck it is. Everything I'm reading says no surveillance onboard, not a balloon, unknown origin, flying at 40,000ft, no propulsion. What the fuck is that then |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:36:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would be an act of war and we'd send a strongly worded letter of condemnation. Letter of condemnation? Under Biden? C’mon man, coming from Biden it’d be a letter of commendation |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:41:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just want to know what it is. Quite possibly a NOAA weather balloon, which would explain why they're so tight-lipped about it. They need the time to write up a narrative and identify a fall guy, maybe Lt. Col. Graf, commander of the 90th Fighter Squadron. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:42:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok it's been what, 7 hours since shooting "the object" down. And nobody is any the wiser (outside of the government) on what the fuck it is. Everything I'm reading says no surveillance onboard, not a balloon, unknown origin, flying at 40,000ft, no propulsion. What the fuck is that then That is a good question, I had assumed a small balloon because they didn't mention it was aerodynamic in shape , a flying cylinder w/ no propulsion, wth . We know nothing . |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:42:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok it's been what, 7 hours since shooting "the object" down. And nobody is any the wiser (outside of the government) on what the fuck it is. Everything I'm reading says no surveillance onboard, not a balloon, unknown origin, flying at 40,000ft, no propulsion. What the fuck is that then Either something embarrassing to admit or they destroyed it prior to actually determining what it was? |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:44:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably launched by Team Xiden just so it could be shot down. That's actually a good point ?? |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:44:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What if there are millions of balloons to be released? Like a balloon Banzai charge? This is really good, the History Guy never disappoints, but one of the things I was most amazed by was the staggering number of balloons released every day  Shootin' Balloons: A History |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:48:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quite possibly a NOAA weather balloon, which would explain why they're so close-lipped about it: they need the time to write up a story and identify a fall guy. Nah, they'll call it what it is if that ends up being the case. I don't think a fall guy is necessary either. I think they're just recovering shit that blew up at 40k feet and fell to the ground in a remote location for analysis. We already see the overactive imaginations at work because they gave a brief an hour after the shootdown with the information they had at the time. Now we have people picking it apart because someone said "flew alongside" instead of "next to" or something, and the dude who saw it didn't use the word "balloon" so they didn't brief "balloon" and suddenly when they recover balloon debris it's a conspiracy. We'll hear something. If it is a NWS weather balloon that is what we will hear, and it'll be before Monday. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:09:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is really good, the History Guy never disappoints, but one of the things I was most amazed by was the staggering number of balloons released every day  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqC9ICdfhQMQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What if there are millions of balloons to be released? Like a balloon Banzai charge? This is really good, the History Guy never disappoints, but one of the things I was most amazed by was the staggering number of balloons released every day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqC9ICdfhQMIf a billion chinese built a million balloons and 1% contained nukes and the rest were decoys that would be 10,000 nukes floating into the USA or 200 EMP airbursts over each state. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:16:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've worked in both the Arctic and Antarctic and I can assure you the risk is far overstated. The sled dogs almost never become infected with alien creatures from crashed UFO's, which run around eating scientists. They only eat the slow ones, and Prof. Domack was a prick anyway |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:19:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If a billion chinese built a million balloons and 1% contained nukes and the rest were decoys that would be 10,000 nukes floating into the USA or 200 EMP airbursts over each state. Heck at this point I think they could send over a dozen balloons full of nothing and we'd shut the country down. They'll probably do that first just for entertainment value, then they'll do a balloon banzai. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:19:44 PM EDT
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I wonder if china’s tic tac squadron is operational. Maybe we finally shot one down.
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:21:00 PM EDT
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 Sorry guys, I was playing with my new toy.
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:24:04 PM EDT
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The type of balloons NWS offices use for soundings aren't cylindrical, aren't silver and they are also not the size of a car.
 And since they are released on a daily basis by NWS offices nationwide, they also aren't anything uncommon. Pretty much anyone with a meteorological or aviation background would be thoroughly familiar with a weather balloon. So whatever this device was, it was probably something just a little out of the ordinary. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:26:23 PM EDT
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I hope the CCP executes the man responsible for this fiasco and reeducates his entire family and all the people he has dinner parties with on the weekends.
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:29:13 PM EDT
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I jumped the gun. Amateur radio community was wrong. K9YO-15 was just picked up again.
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:31:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The type of balloons NWS offices use for soundings aren't cylindrical, aren't silver and they are also not the size of a car. https://www.gannett-cdn.com/authoring/2017/09/05/NSJR/ghows-LS-54158573-1a47-51fa-e053-0100007fa882-d37647ab.jpeg?width=660&height=429&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp And since they are released on a daily basis by NWS offices nationwide, they also aren't anything uncommon. Pretty much anyone with a meteorological or aviation background would be thoroughly familiar with a weather balloon. So whatever this device was, it was probably something just a little out of the ordinary. Do those balloons stay the same size at all altitudes? Do they look differently if they expand? Does weather change how things look at 40k feet? |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:32:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So we’re just blinding shooting down flying objects now without IDing them first? Yeah I’m calling bullshit on that. If that’s the case we should be engaging tic tacs often. |
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