Quoted:
Just got an email that GG&G is now making their own stock adapters for the 1301 and magpul stocks. They have a version to use the Remington 870 magpul stock as well. I ordered one, we'll see how it is!

Quoted:
Just got an email that GG&G is now making their own stock adapters for the 1301 and magpul stocks. They have a version to use the Remington 870 magpul stock as well. I ordered one, we'll see how it is!

Quoted:

Please make a thread here or in shotguns when you get it in. With the aridus part being unobtainable most of the time I’d be highly interested in finding out how the GG&G works.

Quoted:
Such a relief that everywhere is out of stock on these, or you guys would have emptied my wallet yet again.

Quoted:
At what generation was the “fatal flaw” corrected?

And if one has a older generation will beretta upgrade it?

Quoted:
Such a relief that everywhere is out of stock on these, or you guys would have emptied my wallet yet again.

Quoted:


Any 2nd gen has the updated lever. But if you have a 1st gen there is a part you can add on for about $5-10 to fix it.

Quoted:


Can you or someone share a pic of what the updated lever looks like please.

Want to know what to look for if in a store.

Quoted:

what do you need "lefty" on it?  the safety? cast-on?  

you can swap out some shims to set you up with cast-on so that the stock fits better.

the safety can be reversed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n7ZwkaJdZo

the only thing left is the loading port/charging handle and I actually prefer it to be right-side charging, makes port-loading a breeze

Quoted:


And Go

https://www.armsunlimited.com/Beretta-1301-Tactical-Semi-Auto-12-GA-Shotgun-p/j131tp18nle.htm

Quoted:
I guess I’m 1.5.

Gen 2 lever, no choke. Or maybe I need to check the box

Quoted:
Botach has 'em for $1099. But it's Botach, so take that with a very large grain of salt.

https://botach.com/beretta-1301-tactical-shotgun-w-pistol-grip-mag-extention/?avad=211021_d2449008d

Quoted:
Botach has 'em for $1099. But it's Botach, so take that with a very large grain of salt.

https://botach.com/beretta-1301-tactical-shotgun-w-pistol-grip-mag-extention/?avad=211021_d2449008d

Quoted:
LE version (fixed choke) I believe, if that matters to you.

Quoted:
Any machinists out there want to make a bayonet mount for the 1301? A magazine tube ring (like gg&g make) with a bayonet lug and a new cap or whole extension would be pretty simplehttps://i.imgur.com/ElnnwG7.jpg

Quoted:


Incorrect.  The M4s have been well under $2,000 for a bit now.  I just got an M1014 a few months ago for $1,700.  KyGunCo has had the regular M4s for just under $1,600 just recently.  Hell even going on gun.deals the M4s in the wild are around the mid $1,700 range.

Quoted:


Pistol-gripped stocks on shotguns in general suck dick unless you are using the shotgun as a true breacher (which would be PGO or a bird's head) or using it in conjunction with a shield.

It forces the strong hand wrist into a locked position. (No, thumb pointed forward is not a locked wrist, regardless of what some pistol shooter thinks. The way you'd make a fist is a locked wrist.) I find that this loads more felt recoil directly into the joint which sucketh mightily. The more traditional style stock doesn't load force into the wrist, allowing it to flow into the upper body which is way better at taking force than your wrist. When was the last time you put a significant number of rounds through a shotgun and found it was your hand/wrist that hurt? Well, put a pistol grip on your shotgun and you'll get to experience that pleasure.

The pistol grip is less efficient at delivering push-pull because it's dropping the firing hand significantly below the support hand. When you try to tear something in half, note that you generally attempt this with both your hands lined up...that way you're getting equal contributions from the muscle chains on both sides. It's not to say push/pull doesn't work, but you aren't getting optimal results.

I find they don't mount as quickly as a more traditional style stock. When I mount the shotgun part of my reference is contact between my strong hand and my face. There's a little touch going on there most don't see that helps me guarantee proper alignment. That's not there with a pistol-gripped stock.

Most pistol-grip style stocks are still TOO DAMN LONG. Pick up a factory-equipped Benelli PG stock and the motherfucker has a LOP that's like 14.5". The Benelli M4 Entry model (14" barrel) with the non-collapsible pistol grip stock is actually LONGER than an 18" Beretta 1301 with the Aridus adapter and the Magpul SGA on it.

The Mesa Urbino stock is a particularly terrible design. It has a shorter LOP but the cheek piece is too high and fucks with a proper mount. The angle on the stock is weird and when you combine that with the stupidly thick pistol grip it takes one of the lightest, handiest 12 gauge options on the market and makes it handle like a goddamn bread truck. "It look-a nice!", but it handles like a bag of broken glass. Meanwhile the SGA looks ugly as hell but gives you enough of an altered wrist angle to still do most PG style tasks (One handed use, mainly) well while not presenting the problems that an actual pistol grip gives. And the LOP is right.

Every time I've used the Urbino stock on a 1301 all it's done is piss me the fuck off. It might fit others a little bit better, but you're still stuck with the downsides of a pistol-grip on the gun.

Quoted:
Dumb question, but what are the better general purpose loads for these?

I've only shot mine a little. It's fine with target loads. It's manageable with some Estate 00 buck I picked up a few years ago. That NSI 00 buck 12 pellet load that ammoboard was selling a couple months back is f'ing wild.

I'm not really a shotgun guy, so I'm not really sure where the ideal combination of energy and speed/recoil is for a gun like this.

Quoted:


Is your agency still receiving Flite-control?  Wondering if commercial sales are being sacrificed for government sales, as FC can't be found by me.

Quoted:
Tactical lifters are back in stock on the Beretta web site....at least for the moment.