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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:25:23 PM EDT
[#1]
Why do they hate us?
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:27:28 PM EDT
[#2]
FNJ
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:27:28 PM EDT
[#3]
Not a lawyer: how does this not contradict Bruen?
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:27:52 PM EDT
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Keep poking the bear and watch the reaction when the state become a constitutional carry mandate!
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:28:29 PM EDT
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who on God's green earth would want to live in that fucked up state?
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:28:53 PM EDT
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I looked up the bill number, no text available yet: https://legiscan.com/NJ/bill/A4769/2022
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:29:22 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a lawyer: how does this not contradict Bruen? They don’t give a shit |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:29:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a lawyer: how does this not contradict Bruen? It does, but laws being unconstitutional has never stopped them before |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:30:04 PM EDT
[#9]
This law discriminates against the low income residents. I see it getting overturned.
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:30:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a lawyer: how does this not contradict Bruen? I am sure it will and they will be over turned. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:32:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-jersey-poised-to-enact-nation-s-strongest-gun-law-after-supreme-court-ruling/ar-AA12VTFs?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3700783cf25a4352cc76c089f16b11d6 TRENTON, N.J. — New Jersey’s top lawmakers unveiled sweeping gun legislation Thursday that would significantly restrict when and where guns can be carried outside of the home, a bill they touted as “the nation’s strongest measure concerning concealed carry.” The bill would, among other things, require people wanting to carry guns in public to purchase liability insurance — the first statewide mandate of its kind in the nation should the bill become law — and banning guns from being carried in 25 broad categories, including but not limited to government buildings, health care facilities, airports, casinos and private properties where the owners have not given express permission to have guns. Violations would be deemed a third-degree crime... Interesting. What other constitutional rights require insurance to exercise or can be denied by a property owner? |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:32:21 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This law discriminates against the low income residents. I see it getting overturned. So what's the problem? |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:33:07 PM EDT
[#13]
Honestly? Give us the strongest test cases you can while the court makeup is in our favor. The more case law we can establish now the better.
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:34:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do they hate us? because they know in the end, we're gonna have to use those guns to stop them. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:35:11 PM EDT
[#15]
Things that are automatically unconstitutional under bruin concerning guns:
“The first time in the nation” |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:36:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:37:02 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a lawyer: how does this not contradict Bruen? Explain to this guy how it contradicts the Bruen decision, and then let us know how that works out for ya once you make bail  |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:37:24 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So what's the problem? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This law discriminates against the low income residents. I see it getting overturned. So what's the problem? Poor doesn’t mean criminal. There are a lot of decent poor people, and they have just as much of a right to protect themselves as anyone else. In fact, I’d say they need it even more because they’re more likely to be victims of violent crime than rich or middle class folks. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:37:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: because they know in the end, we're gonna have to use those guns to stop them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why do they hate us? because they know in the end, we're gonna have to use those guns to stop them. There it is. 
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:38:08 PM EDT
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It’ll get struck down. They know it’ll get struck down. But it’ll buy them votes until it does, and it’s not like the lawsuit comes out of their pockets.
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:38:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Explain to this guy how it contradicts the Bruen decision, and then let us know how that works out for ya once you make bail https://www.odmp.org/media/image/officer/25587/orig/thumbnail_razukas-matthew-5939-lt-image-b.jpg I hate New Jersey nazis. /Blues Brothers |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:39:50 PM EDT
[#22]
Criminal charges for any politician forwarding unconstitutional laws.
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:40:14 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: because they know in the end, we're gonna have to use those guns to Ironic, the only way that doesn't happen is to leave us alone and let us keep our firearms. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:41:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do they hate us? They hate us, because they anus! |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:42:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do they hate us? Because you're not their slave. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:44:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They don’t give a shit Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not a lawyer: how does this not contradict Bruen? They don’t give a shit The coastal confederacy states have been in FULL Kim Davis mode since the SCOTUS decision. In their new law, they want to require insurance to carry. IIRC they already passed a law a few years ago banning insurance for carry. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:44:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a lawyer: how does this not contradict Bruen?  Bruen is irrelevant. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:44:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Explain to this guy how it contradicts the Bruen decision, and then let us know how that works out for ya once you make bail https://www.odmp.org/media/image/officer/25587/orig/thumbnail_razukas-matthew-5939-lt-image-b.jpg Nazis always have the sharpest uniforms. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:44:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. What other constitutional rights require insurance to exercise or can be denied by a property owner? As always this is why the right needs to propose legislation requiring these same requirements to free speech, the right to vote, etc. It tells everyone that the left believes that the second is in fact a secondary right. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:45:16 PM EDT
[#30]
The Left does not understand the word NO.
They are spoiled, rotten children. Only whats important to them is sacred. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:46:02 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do they hate us? Because the .gov doesn't have a monopoly on violence if people are armed outside of their homes. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:46:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. What other constitutional rights require insurance to exercise or can be denied by a property owner? Don't know but sounds like they are asking to be included for illegals from Texas and Florida. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:48:11 PM EDT
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This is 'Rats being 'Rats. This is exactly what the 'Rats did when the courts told them to desegregate. It was one long series of defiant acts that were ultimately smacked down - hard.
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:49:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’ll get struck down. They know it’ll get struck down. But it’ll buy them votes until it does, and it’s not like the lawsuit comes out of their pockets. .....and expect NJ new stations to have non-stop coverage of shootings across the state and country a little "nudge" with story reporting and its easy to persuade the populace who to vote for |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:52:32 PM EDT
[#35]
This kind of bullshit is why I haven't initiated a CCW permit as of yet.
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Posted: 10/13/2022 6:54:47 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They don’t give a shit I suspect that attitude will become very prevalent on both sides of the argument. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 7:00:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Explain to this guy how it contradicts the Bruen decision, and then let us know how that works out for ya once you make bail https://www.odmp.org/media/image/officer/25587/orig/thumbnail_razukas-matthew-5939-lt-image-b.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not a lawyer: how does this not contradict Bruen? Explain to this guy how it contradicts the Bruen decision, and then let us know how that works out for ya once you make bail https://www.odmp.org/media/image/officer/25587/orig/thumbnail_razukas-matthew-5939-lt-image-b.jpg Damn that uniform looks awfully familiar. Didn't I see some German dudes in the late 1930s to mid 1940s. wearing something similar |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 7:01:00 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Explain to this guy how it contradicts the Bruen decision, and then let us know how that works out for ya once you make bail https://www.odmp.org/media/image/officer/25587/orig/thumbnail_razukas-matthew-5939-lt-image-b.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not a lawyer: how does this not contradict Bruen? Explain to this guy how it contradicts the Bruen decision, and then let us know how that works out for ya once you make bail https://www.odmp.org/media/image/officer/25587/orig/thumbnail_razukas-matthew-5939-lt-image-b.jpg Damn that uniform looks awfully familiar. Didn't I see some German dudes in the late 1930s to mid 1940s wearing something similar.? |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 7:01:47 PM EDT
[#39]
Poor people don't deserve the ability to protect themselves and their families! Good job NJ!
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Posted: 10/13/2022 7:02:38 PM EDT
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I'll add NJ to the "Never Going There" list. Oh wait, it's already on it.
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Posted: 10/13/2022 7:03:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Explain to this guy how it contradicts the Bruen decision, and then let us know how that works out for ya once you make bail https://www.odmp.org/media/image/officer/25587/orig/thumbnail_razukas-matthew-5939-lt-image-b.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not a lawyer: how does this not contradict Bruen? Explain to this guy how it contradicts the Bruen decision, and then let us know how that works out for ya once you make bail https://www.odmp.org/media/image/officer/25587/orig/thumbnail_razukas-matthew-5939-lt-image-b.jpg Bail? Edit: That Trooper died of COVID. Not sure what you're getting at. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 7:05:52 PM EDT
[#42]
New Yorks version of this law was struck down yesterday....
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Posted: 10/13/2022 7:06:09 PM EDT
[#43]
Insurance should be dirt cheap.
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Posted: 10/13/2022 7:08:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Explain to this guy how it contradicts the Bruen decision, and then let us know how that works out for ya once you make bail https://www.odmp.org/media/image/officer/25587/orig/thumbnail_razukas-matthew-5939-lt-image-b.jpg  NJSP would have fit in well during the DDR. |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 7:11:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Poor doesn’t mean criminal. There are a lot of decent poor people, and they have just as much of a right to protect themselves as anyone else. In fact, I’d say they need it even more because they’re more likely to be victims of violent crime than rich or middle class folks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This law discriminates against the low income residents. I see it getting overturned. So what's the problem? Poor doesn’t mean criminal. There are a lot of decent poor people, and they have just as much of a right to protect themselves as anyone else. In fact, I’d say they need it even more because they’re more likely to be victims of violent crime than rich or middle class folks. I think what he meant was it will be overturned so who gives a damn? |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 7:12:23 PM EDT
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If it’s anything like the CCIA in NY, there’s hope that it’ll go down in flames.
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Posted: 10/13/2022 7:16:26 PM EDT
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Most people living in NJ dont mind those laws, and the few that do should move to a state that more politically aligns with them...If everyone did that, there would be less issues overall...I am doing that exact thing ASAFP....
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Posted: 10/13/2022 7:31:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. What other constitutional rights require insurance to exercise or can be denied by a property owner? None for the insurance. If I tell you that you're allowed on my property only if you don't talk, I can do that because it's my property (as in "not yours"). I'm not forcing you to be on my property. This includes "public accommodations" (which was an evil invention and taking). |
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Posted: 10/13/2022 7:42:50 PM EDT
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Some day the gun people will decide to dictate what the law will be.
 I mean WTH what are the no gun people going to do 
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Posted: 10/13/2022 7:47:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do they hate us? Because they are evil communists who want you to be their slaves. |
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