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Posted: 11/6/2015 3:35:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/6/2015 3:47:03 PM EDT
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What's the over under on Ahsoka Tano making an appearance?
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Posted: 11/6/2015 3:47:39 PM EDT
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This caught my eye as well. Tie Fighters flying out of the sun....too freakin' cool. Really starting to believe the new Sith dude is really Luke. Too many indicators going off in my head. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tie Fighters in the Sun. GO EMPIRE! This caught my eye as well. Tie Fighters flying out of the sun....too freakin' cool. Really starting to believe the new Sith dude is really Luke. Too many indicators going off in my head. Difficult to see...always in motion are the clips There are clips that would appear to show the new masked Sith guy doing a sort of Vulcan mind meld grip on his/Luke's face. But it is interesting that Luke does not show up in most of the clips and is not on the one poster I have seen so far |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 3:49:14 PM EDT
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What's the over under on Ahsoka Tano making an appearance? That would be cool but they would have to explain why she wasn't in IV, V and VI. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 3:49:55 PM EDT
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There's also this audio dialog from the new line of toys. Pretty neat.
The following lines are spoken by Kylo Ren (Adam Driver), followed by my added commentary:
“I feel it too.”: Is he talking about The Force? “You know what I’ve come for.”: Probably Anakin Skywalker’s lightsaber? “Together we will destroy the Resistance and the last Jedi.”: Who is he talking to? Captain Phasma? Snoke? Interesting that it seems that Luke Skywalker has not trained another Jedi Knight in the 30 years following Return of the Jedi. “Don’t fight it.”: It appears that Ren is trying to convince someone to join the dark side? Could it be Finn or Rey? “You know you can’t, I am immune to the light.”: I assume he is talking metaphorically about being able to resist the reaches of the force. “We will send it away”: No idea “I’ve been waiting for this day for a long time.”: His first meeting with Luke Skywalker? “Is it true, you’re just a scavenger.” Renn seems disappointed of what Rey has made out of her life. “Don’t be afraid, I feel it too.” “That weapon is mine.”: Possibly Anakin’s lightsaber or maybe a bigger weapon? http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-dialogue/ |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 3:50:53 PM EDT
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Just read a cool theory that the new bad guy may be Darth Revan having awakened from some kind of sleep. Though the characters reverence for the melted mask of Vader would not track with this IMHO.
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Posted: 11/6/2015 3:52:33 PM EDT
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That would be cool but they would have to explain why she wasn't in IV, V and VI. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's the over under on Ahsoka Tano making an appearance? That would be cool but they would have to explain why she wasn't in IV, V and VI. Hiding from her former master. Unless Kylo Ren is the little dude from Rebels. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 3:57:40 PM EDT
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December 17th 10pm. I feel like this: http://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/images/shows/south-park/clip-thumbnails/season-10/1012/south-park-s10e12c01-cartman-wants-a-wii-16x9.jpg? 
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Posted: 11/6/2015 3:59:34 PM EDT
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True, but they're making a big deal of Adam Driver playing Kylo Ren. They didn't do that with Vader, the first guy that played him wasn't even an actor, just some bodybuilder in a suit. "They" also made a big deal about the bad guy in Star Trek Into Darkness NOT being Khan. Hey, look at that...the bad guy in STID is Khan. Huh. Go Figure. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:00:39 PM EDT
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Cant wait for some Star Wars Jungle loving. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:01:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would be cool but they would have to explain why she wasn't in IV, V and VI. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's the over under on Ahsoka Tano making an appearance? That would be cool but they would have to explain why she wasn't in IV, V and VI. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:02:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: December 17th 10pm. I feel like this: http://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/images/shows/south-park/clip-thumbnails/season-10/1012/south-park-s10e12c01-cartman-wants-a-wii-16x9.jpg? http:// http://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/images/shows/south-park/clip-thumbnails/season-10/1012/south-park-s10e12c08-butters-freezes-cartman-16x9.jpg?  |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:06:54 PM EDT
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Hiding from her former master. Unless Kylo Ren is the little dude from Rebels. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's the over under on Ahsoka Tano making an appearance? That would be cool but they would have to explain why she wasn't in IV, V and VI. Hiding from her former master. Unless Kylo Ren is the little dude from Rebels. Ezra. Ive heard this theory as well. They do look alike, but do the timelines match up? Ezra is 14 at the time of Rebels. ~5 years before the battle of Yavin. The time from the battle of Yavin to ROTJ is 4 years, then 30 more years to TFA. That would make Kylo Ren over 50. Plausible? |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:10:23 PM EDT
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"They" also made a big deal about the bad guy in Star Trek Into Darkness NOT being Khan. Hey, look at that...the bad guy in STID is Khan. Huh. Go Figure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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True, but they're making a big deal of Adam Driver playing Kylo Ren. They didn't do that with Vader, the first guy that played him wasn't even an actor, just some bodybuilder in a suit. "They" also made a big deal about the bad guy in Star Trek Into Darkness NOT being Khan. Hey, look at that...the bad guy in STID is Khan. Huh. Go Figure. Also true, I didn't think of that. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:11:15 PM EDT
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We noticed months ago. Keep up.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stormtroopers with flamethrowers?! Whats not to like! Has no one noticed that yet??? We noticed months ago. Keep up. ....and the black stormtrooper?? |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:12:12 PM EDT
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Ezra. Ive heard this theory as well. They do look alike, but do the timelines match up? Ezra is 14 at the time of Rebels. ~5 years before the battle of Yavin. The time from the battle of Yavin to ROTJ is 4 years, then 30 more years to TFA. That would make Kylo Ren over 50. Plausible? If he was put into carbonite for some time after Rebels, then I can see how it's possible. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:13:34 PM EDT
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Long with stupid hipsters but some good insight.
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:22:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They've already tossed the EU. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think Luke will be hunted down and eventually killed........I can see him teaching the next generation of Jedi. If you read the books and if I am not mistaken, Han and Leia have 3 children.......Luke gets married and has a son........the daughter of Han and Leia and the oldest son learn the ways of The force.......the son becomes seduced by the dark side and becomes a Sith Lord eventually killing his aunt(Lukes wife). He eventually sees the error of His ways after a duel with his sister who eventually kills him........I think this movie will get the ball rolling in this direction, the new Sith Lord could be the Son of Leia and Han. They've already tossed the EU. Which is a good thing. In my opinion, 80% of the EU was crap to "meh" while 10% was good to excellent. As for the remaining 10% the authors should have been euthanized by the publisher as soon as they'd submitted their final draft which then should have been burnt, twice, and never spoken of again. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:30:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: we should bring a flask with us into the theater, we have to take a shot every time we see lens flare Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I hope not. Because then we have JJ Abrams remaking A New Hope like he did Wrath of Khan. Star Trek: Into Darkness sucked. we should bring a flask with us into the theater, we have to take a shot every time we see lens flare And shout, "Lens Flare! DRINK!!!" |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:36:28 PM EDT
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There has been talk that the story will basically be the original Star Wars again. This trailer confirms the girl "finds" the ball droid...I bet it has info vital to the Rebels... 
I hope not, but after seeing Into Darkness, it would not surprise me. What really pisses me off about Into Darkness is that JJ basically had a blank check to do whatever he wanted in that universe and he took the easy route and gave us a rehash of Khan. 
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I hope not. Because then we have JJ Abrams remaking A New Hope like he did Wrath of Khan. Star Trek: Into Darkness sucked. There has been talk that the story will basically be the original Star Wars again. This trailer confirms the girl "finds" the ball droid...I bet it has info vital to the Rebels...
I hope not, but after seeing Into Darkness, it would not surprise me. What really pisses me off about Into Darkness is that JJ basically had a blank check to do whatever he wanted in that universe and he took the easy route and gave us a rehash of Khan.
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:42:29 PM EDT
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....and the black stormtrooper?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stormtroopers with flamethrowers?! Whats not to like! Has no one noticed that yet??? We noticed months ago. Keep up. ....and the black stormtrooper?? Yes, he's black. We knew that last year. The rest of the Stormtroopers gave him the name Finn as in, "I'm finn blast these fools." There's a robot that's round and rolls along the ground too. Oh, and a female lead actress, she's white though. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 4:45:44 PM EDT
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Main characters need moar American accent. Only the bad guys speak the King's English!  Sounds like an Imperial accent to me. 
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Posted: 11/6/2015 5:29:51 PM EDT
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It makes no sense for Luke to be evil. None.
Han may die, the new characters may be the children of the old, Chewbacca may go bald, Anthony Daniels may stop being a pompous prick, but Luke will always be a Jedi. ...and don't bring up the now defunct EU. The EU sucked. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 5:32:57 PM EDT
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It makes no sense for Luke to be evil. None. Han may die, the new characters may be the children of the old, Chewbacca may go bald, Anthony Daniels may stop being a pompous prick, but Luke will always be a Jedi. ...and don't bring up the now defunct EU. The EU sucked. I'm just about convinced that Han dies in this one. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 5:41:04 PM EDT
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Yes, he's black. We knew that last year. The rest of the Stormtroopers gave him the name Finn as in, "I'm finn blast these fools." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stormtroopers with flamethrowers?! Whats not to like! Has no one noticed that yet??? We noticed months ago. Keep up. ....and the black stormtrooper?? Yes, he's black. We knew that last year. The rest of the Stormtroopers gave him the name Finn as in, "I'm finn blast these fools." 
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Posted: 11/6/2015 7:00:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/6/2015 8:56:38 PM EDT
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If you look at 1:53 then you see the white girl in the woods, at night, with snow, holding the arm of someone in a tan jacket and crying. Looks like Finn may have gotten in over his head trying to take on Kylo Ren. "Hope does not die today, it begins"
My guess...Finn is believed to be the future of the force, the rebels get their butts kicked by the new empire, Finn gets dead...but all along it was a build up to get the white girl to become a Jedi. Finn's death galvanizes her the way Ben's death galvanized Luke. Pure speculation. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:02:55 PM EDT
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Stormtroopers with flamethrowers?! Whats not to like! Has no one noticed that yet??? We noticed months ago. Keep up. ....and the black stormtrooper?? its black chrome and a chick
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:03:40 PM EDT
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I figured out The Dark Half after the first murder.
I figured out The Sixth Sense as soon as Bruce Willis died. I figured out The Village a week before it's opening (SyFy did a making of promo special, and they showed a shot of a car driving through a field to the set. That was when I figured it out). If I am right, then I will have figured out Star Wars 6 weeks before the movie came out, by using a blurry shot from a Chinese trailer. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:11:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kylo Ren is played by Adam Driver so... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tie Fighters in the Sun. GO EMPIRE! This caught my eye as well. Tie Fighters flying out of the sun....too freakin' cool. Really starting to believe the new Sith dude is really Luke. Too many indicators going off in my head. I hope not. Kylo Ren is played by Adam Driver so... |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:14:51 PM EDT
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Flying out of Saigon or something lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tie Fighters in the Sun. GO EMPIRE! This caught my eye as well. Tie Fighters flying out of the sun....too freakin' cool. Really starting to believe the new Sith dude is really Luke. Too many indicators going off in my head. Very eye catching scene. Avatar worthy, I think. Flying out of Saigon or something lol LOL. but it is my wall paper |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:17:42 PM EDT
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Tie fighter firing backwards @ 1:06 - is that normal?
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:20:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tie Fighters in the Sun. GO EMPIRE! This caught my eye as well. Tie Fighters flying out of the sun....too freakin' cool. Really starting to believe the new Sith dude is really Luke. Too many indicators going off in my head. I hope not. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:20:52 PM EDT
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That would be cool but they would have to explain why she wasn't in IV, V and VI. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's the over under on Ahsoka Tano making an appearance? That would be cool but they would have to explain why she wasn't in IV, V and VI. It could be simply explained that after feeling betrayed by the Jedi she went in to hiding, perhaps doing the occasional odd job with Asajj Ventress; remember the premonition she had on the Force Planet in Season 3 of 'Clone Wars', the darkness had been planted within her by her Master... I'd love to see Ahsoka make an appearance in the new movie 
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:21:29 PM EDT
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Tie fighter firing backwards @ 1:06 - is that normal? Well, it's over 30 years since Ties first flew. It's kind of silly that there are still X-Wings and Tie Fighters at all (though I understand the decision to avoid changing too much). |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:22:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Tie Fighters in the Sun. GO EMPIRE! This caught my eye as well. Tie Fighters flying out of the sun....too freakin' cool. Really starting to believe the new Sith dude is really Luke. Too many indicators going off in my head. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:26:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tie fighter firing backwards @ 1:06 - is that normal? Season 1 of Rebels has one flying sideways and backwards. The episode where Ezra and Zeb steal a TIE. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:29:21 PM EDT
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Main characters need moar American accent. Only the bad guys speak the King's English! Kinda like the movie Gladiator? Where the main character is a Spanish Roman that speaks with an English accent.
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:31:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Season 1 of Rebels has one flying sideways and backwards. The episode where Ezra and Zeb steal a TIE. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Tie fighter firing backwards @ 1:06 - is that normal? Season 1 of Rebels has one flying sideways and backwards. The episode where Ezra and Zeb steal a TIE. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:32:30 PM EDT
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Well, it's over 30 years since Ties first flew. It's kind of silly that there are still X-Wings and Tie Fighters at all (though I understand the decision to avoid changing too much). 1st flight, 1952. USAF still flying them: 
1st flight, 1952. Israeli AF phased them out two years ago. Brazil Navy still flying them: 
1st flight, 1958. German AF retired them two years ago. Greek AF still flying them. The Turks were flying them in combat missions in Syria as recently as last month: 
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:35:57 PM EDT
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Tie Fighters in the Sun. GO EMPIRE! This caught my eye as well. Tie Fighters flying out of the sun....too freakin' cool. Really starting to believe the new Sith dude is really Luke. Too many indicators going off in my head. Click To View Spoiler Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:36:11 PM EDT
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Last scene of the trailer looks like shes weeping over a dead chubaka.
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:39:34 PM EDT
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"no there is another" may have not been refrencing leia.
Or he could be a clone from a sparti cloning tank |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:40:32 PM EDT
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1st flight, 1952. USAF still flying them: http://oi66.tinypic.com/2vkeolh.jpg 1st flight, 1952. Israeli AF phased them out two years ago. Brazil Navy still flying them: http://oi64.tinypic.com/2r2rfvs.jpg 1st flight, 1958. German AF retired them two years ago. Greek AF still flying them. The Turks were flying them in combat missions in Syria as recently as last month: http://oi64.tinypic.com/5wgi77.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, it's over 30 years since Ties first flew. It's kind of silly that there are still X-Wings and Tie Fighters at all (though I understand the decision to avoid changing too much). 1st flight, 1952. USAF still flying them: http://oi66.tinypic.com/2vkeolh.jpg 1st flight, 1952. Israeli AF phased them out two years ago. Brazil Navy still flying them: http://oi64.tinypic.com/2r2rfvs.jpg 1st flight, 1958. German AF retired them two years ago. Greek AF still flying them. The Turks were flying them in combat missions in Syria as recently as last month: http://oi64.tinypic.com/5wgi77.jpg 1) They're beyond obsolete. The absence of a peer/near-peer enemy allows their continued use. 2) Each Star Wars trilogy saw an evolution of the spacecraft used by each side. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:56:10 PM EDT
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The main female character is the doppelgänger of my ex. Kinda ruins it. Doublebanger? |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:58:02 PM EDT
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1) They're beyond obsolete. The absence of a peer/near-peer enemy allows their continued use. 2) Each Star Wars trilogy saw an evolution of the spacecraft used by each side. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, it's over 30 years since Ties first flew. It's kind of silly that there are still X-Wings and Tie Fighters at all (though I understand the decision to avoid changing too much). 1st flight, 1952. USAF still flying them: http://oi66.tinypic.com/2vkeolh.jpg 1st flight, 1952. Israeli AF phased them out two years ago. Brazil Navy still flying them: http://oi64.tinypic.com/2r2rfvs.jpg 1st flight, 1958. German AF retired them two years ago. Greek AF still flying them. The Turks were flying them in combat missions in Syria as recently as last month: http://oi64.tinypic.com/5wgi77.jpg 1) They're beyond obsolete. The absence of a peer/near-peer enemy allows their continued use. 2) Each Star Wars trilogy saw an evolution of the spacecraft used by each side. We don't know what's happened since The Return of the Jedi. If the Empire collapsed and fractured into multiple pieces, it's possible that the pace of technology slowed to a crawl. It's also possible that they live in a less dynamic time, where technology improvements aren't moving as quickly. Our current pace of technological evolution is historically rare. Also, think of other Military tech... How many M-48's, T-55's, etc, are still running around the world? |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 10:19:39 PM EDT
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It's also possible that they live in a less dynamic time, where technology improvements aren't moving as quickly. Our current pace of technological evolution is historically rare. Quote HistoryQuoted:
It's also possible that they live in a less dynamic time, where technology improvements aren't moving as quickly. Our current pace of technological evolution is historically rare. What was the pace of change during the World Wars? Also, think of other Military tech... How many M-48's, T-55's, etc, are still running around the world? Already addressed. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 10:23:06 PM EDT
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RLM has two theories on Luke. One is that he is in hiding so the Jedi die out and the other is that he ended up giving in to the Dark Side after Ep 3 (or 6 for you who don't know better).
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Posted: 11/6/2015 10:25:46 PM EDT
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Well, it's over 30 years since Ties first flew. It's kind of silly that there are still X-Wings and Tie Fighters at all (though I understand the decision to avoid changing too much). 1st flight, 1952. USAF still flying them: http://oi66.tinypic.com/2vkeolh.jpg 1st flight, 1952. Israeli AF phased them out two years ago. Brazil Navy still flying them: http://oi64.tinypic.com/2r2rfvs.jpg 1st flight, 1958. German AF retired them two years ago. Greek AF still flying them. The Turks were flying them in combat missions in Syria as recently as last month: http://oi64.tinypic.com/5wgi77.jpg 1) They're beyond obsolete. The absence of a peer/near-peer enemy allows their continued use. 2) Each Star Wars trilogy saw an evolution of the spacecraft used by each side. What's the average age of an F-15 or F-16? The X-wing and TIE fighters are proven designs and the ones shown in the trailers are obviously improved variants of the originals. |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 10:29:24 PM EDT
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What's the average age of an F-15 or F-16? The X-wing and TIE fighters are proven designs and the ones shown in the trailers are obviously improved variants of the originals. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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