damn... the more i read this thread the more i want that damn optic!!

Sounds like your have really high expectations.... Keep in mind that we are talking about shooting man sized targets out to 600 meters, not shooting MOA at 1000. Given that they use the same reticle for both 5.56 and .308 and use a man sized torso for the range finding portion of the reticle, it's pretty clear that the scope has the DMR role in mind rather than being pressed into sniper duty at long range. This thing is intended to help an average rifleman who prefers a RDS reach out when he needs to, not replace a dedicated long range scope.

You talk like you know so much yet the people who actually go to war with these things don't agree with you. How to reconcile these two juxtaposed opinions........

I'll probably pick one of these up if Trijicon will sell them this year with their instructor discount.

What is this instructor's discount that you speak? (Feel free to IM me)

DEVO sucks.

Mildot or one of the Christmas tree reticles is where it's at.

Dual illuminated sucks when you're using a flashlight in the dark.

Dual illuminated could mean a lot of things. If you mean fiber optic and tritium, I agree.

Yes

I love my tri-power.  It gets no love from a lot of people but I have found no flaws with mine yet.

Battery life... But you don't really need it much.

Buttons could be better.

But every optic currently made is lacking in some way.

The real question is if Trijicon is going to make a super-RMR to avoid the buttrape the Deltapoint Pro is going to give them...

If so, they need to announce it right nao, before everyone starts jumping ship...

What soldiers bring to war doesn't always reflect the Best of the Best. Things like procurement program life cycles, budgets, etc. dictacte when new equipment is bought, items are handed down etc. As I mentioned before, Trijicon sold the RX01NSN to SF units that had discretionary budgets. The bottom line with Big Army and the Marines is that they want a magnified ACOG instead of an unmagnified ACOG (the Reflex series) and that doesn't mean that the unmagnified sights don't have a place in the world or that they are inferior to what ever else is out there.

And, I know "enough". If you don't like my $.02, I really don't care. I have a lot of experience with DI sights/scopes and Trijicon products (hell, they are about 3 miles from where I am sittin on my couch right now) in particular ,and I don't mind sharing what I know. What are you adding to the conversation?

I find them to dim noticeably within the time frame of an Aimpoint battery life. It's not enough that it just be visible, it has to be of an appropriate brightness to be seen readily against the target with both eyes open. On a bright moonlit night the dot can become hard to pick out pretty readily. Or in some night urban environments, especially with sodium lighting.

That said I do like the tritium concept. I wish there was a more straightforward maintainability to them, as far as a known (and reasonable) price to have the tritium replaced. Also potentially an option for a brighter non-NV compatible version.

I've wondered if changing to a green color might be superior to the amber in this regard.

I have an idea to really improve the usability of some of the sights in some environments/situations. Someday I might even prototype it and see if it works.

I still think the Tripower is a huge lost opportunity. What could be the best product I've seen from Trijicon after the ACOG, but squandered due to poor choices which could be rectified. If it's a sore subject within the company as some claim, why not fix it, instead of leaving it to be sore? Or to go one better, a mini version like this MRO but with tritium & fiber optic along with the chevron reticle.

I am hoping for a DI version of this MRO. The original Reflex sights are roughly the same size and objective diameter of the Aimpoint micros that are en vogue these days, it is the right time to redo that sight. The RX34/43 that followed are light years ahead of the Reflex II and an update to the fiber optic, lens coatings etc. would be welcome enough on its own. If they were to give this MRO the DI treatment they would really have something because there are design elements from the SRS that would knock it out of the park.

I spoke to one of their employees about this in the bar after SHOT one night, hope they do something with it.

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I don't know that green is the answer.. Like with the other products, to get acceptable contrast in high light conditions, they coat the lenses darker and it hurts the sight in low light. In daylight, the green is attention getting but probably not worth the trade off. Customers can be fickle, a lot of them think a $500 sight ought to give them a blowjob every time they pull it out of the safe, having a sight they can't see thru at 9:30 at night in their back yard would probably go over like a lead ballon on the Internet. I'm surprised nobody complains about the RMR..

Those kinds of complaints were what killed the Tri-Power IMO. The high speed tactical crowd on the Internet had to have a battery, they had to have a red reticle-both of which Trijicon wasn't doing at the time. People wanted sealed tube sights like an Aimpoint, again, Trijicon didn't do that at the time either. So, they came out with a tube style reflex sight and one-upped Aimpoint by putting a multi use Chevron reticle in it to offer some basic ranging and BDC ability. Of course, being a
Trijicon, it had to be dual illuminated so they did that too.  When it came out, people complained that the fiber optic glowed... Well, of course it does. Never mind that
Trijicon includes a rubber bikini cover to prevent people seeing it in the dark. The Tri-Power came out what, fifteen years ago now, and a lot of the components that are needed to make 5000 hour RDSs weren't available at the time, specifically low current drain Integrated Circuits and low current diodes for the reticle illumination. That hurt it a lot, but probably not as much as their battery choice. the only reason I can think they would pick a 2/3N cell was that they needed a lot of voltage to make their power supply work. They use 2 cells in this sight, which meant they needed small ones so that the battery tube didn't dominate the optic. Hind sight is 20/20...

Honestly, the biggest reason that there is no push to remake the Tri-Power is a lack of market interest in sights that size. Everyone wants the mini sights or a really large one and they cover both of those bases with the RMR and RX34/43 and now this new MRO.

LOL. Prepared for what?


Better yet trijicon, skip the advertising and use the savings to lower your optics prices.

We have pricing and info on the optics, we got to handle one today. They are AWESOME!





Definitely an aimpoint killer and at only $544 with a 1/3 co witness mount I think aimpoint will have to lower their prices to stay competitive





Edited...VA-gunnut








 

pics were taken today by us with an iphone of the actual optic with the mount that is included from trijicon

background was photoshopped for a clean white look so we could post it on our site until trijicon releases hi-resolution photos

No, but it should.

 
Thanks for the info.  That sounds awesome.



 


ETA:  what did you think of the factory mount?


 

Battery life is the one thing that is stupid on the tri-power, and I agree on the buttons.  I have beat up my tri-power and it is still kicking though and it has worked for me so I will keep it.

Plus it has the Jesus code on it, which gives it a +3 to enrage fedoras.  

Mmmmmmmmmm yes.  I like that.






 

If the MRO have chevrons I will buy more than 1.

Whoops, you're right, my Aimpoints use 2L76 and the TA02 ACOG takes AA.

They get replaced so infrequently I tend to forget.

the mount it comes with is solid but since many people prefer a QD, larue will have a mount out around september 1st as well from what I understand. unfortunately he does not OEM the mounts or sell them to other dealers but theres always that option and I am sure other companies will be releasing QD mounts quickly

Where's that picture of that line drawn person drooling at his computer?

Thanks for the 411 ArmsUnlimited.

I just got da' EMail.

ArmsUnlimited:
Can you check the dot with magnification to see how it compares to a T2?
With my astigmatism, no dot ever looked great until the T2 came along.  I was waiting for the H2, since I assume Itll be $560 (since the T2 is $625 in many places), but I'd prefer to try this out if it magnifies well.

Maybe they're asking aimpoint if they are prepared

Hell yes.

Looks like it's available....priced at $544.

https://www.armsunlimited.com/Trijicon-MRO-2-MOA-Mini-Rifle-Optic-Red-Dot-Sight-p/2200006.htm

i'd be all over this if I had not just picked up an RX-34a51

Which LaRue mount will this fit on?

Not sure I agree.  T2 is pretty much perfect (aside from price)

Interesting, I was going to grab a T2 the next time I found a deal,  may need to check this out first.

Serious question, what makes the Deltapoint Pro so much better than RMR?

I am utterly ignorant.


Thanks

im in!!

Agreed. Bolded Changes are the most important.

Change Battery type
Reduce Size
Redesign FiberOptic/Powered Optic Cover
Reduce Battery Usage (the TriPower I had positively ATE batteries)
Various Reticle Choices
Various Reticle Colors

Yeah, I really must be missing something with that one. The integrated rear sight doesn't really do anything for me personally.

Pre-Order, Shipping Begins September 1st...

2MOA dot is bigger than I want. Lack of any added functionality in the reticle when used with a magnifier. Red dot, which means about 1/8th of the male population has difficulty perceiving the dot due to colorblindness.

Much larger total viewing area, which matters on a pistol. Steel protective hood. Triangle reticle option. Smaller base. Integrated water drain (water will make an RMR non-functional). Top battery replacement. Manual brightness override which doesn't retardedly put the buttons on the side. And the rear sight option is actually pretty kickass.

Now if they would just the damn thing in the public's hands.

You accidentally the damn thing.

Apparently Delta & Friends have decided to buy all the Deltapoint Pro's that will be made for the next 5,000 years...

My thought as well if they would put in an led with a circle dot reticle with the battery life of the t1 and the MSRP pf $5-600 they would probably sell better than aimpoint. But they still may we'll see I guess.

Thx