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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:41:51 PM EDT
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It's surprisingly honest about that point. It was a worthwhile read, especially given the unexpected source.
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:42:31 PM EDT
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My take: Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. So, shoot your AR's all you want, there's plenty more where they came from. Taxes, ammo taxes, fees, UBC, etc. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:42:33 PM EDT
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I hope Anderson and PSA keep selling all the low cost low quality items they possibly can. I want to see these numbers going up, up, up, up for this exact reason.
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:46:27 PM EDT
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I hope Anderson and PSA keep selling all the low cost low quality items they possibly can. I want to see these numbers going up, up, up, up for this exact reason. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:46:58 PM EDT
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An actual rational editorial in the NYT that concerns guns?
 I'm guessing that for an editor at the NYT, that's roughly equivalent to arfcom account suicide via Cockpocalypse #(whatever number is next in line). Suicide by senior editor? |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:47:42 PM EDT
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e. In 1996, Australia launched a mandatory gun buyback of 650,000 military-style weapons. Lots of people didn't bother turning them in. There are currently around 15 million military-style rifles in civilian hands in the United States. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:48:38 PM EDT
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He doesn't mention something that will become even more important in the future: 3D printing.
Eventually the technology will exist for people to just print AR-15's at home. Then they will try to restrict 3D printing. Then something else will come along. We may be shooting Plasma Rifles in the 40-Watt range before the AR-15 finally dies the death. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:49:33 PM EDT
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"Never mind that a majority of Americans support such a ban."
Citation needed. Last I checked, the country was bitterly divided on such a ban. Never mind that this author is a lying sack of shit. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:49:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe so, but they will sure do their best to find a way to make ownership as painful as possible. Taxes, ammo taxes, fees, UBC, etc. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:49:57 PM EDT
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Flooding the market is absolutely required, for a number of reasons. Namely upcoming legal challenges - "common use." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hope Anderson and PSA keep selling all the low cost low quality items they possibly can. I want to see these numbers going up, up, up, up for this exact reason. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:50:27 PM EDT
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He doesn't mention something that will become even more important in the future: 3D printing. Eventually the technology will exist for people to just print AR-15's at home. Then they will try to restrict 3D printing. Then something else will come along. We may be shooting Plasma Rifles in the 40-Watt range before the AR-15 finally dies the death. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:51:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:52:25 PM EDT
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It's surprisingly honest about that point. It was a worthwhile read, especially given the unexpected source. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:53:31 PM EDT
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3-D printing in metals and ceramics already exists, of course. And it's relatively expensive. But it'll get cheaper and more readily available in the years to come.
The day will come when having a 3D printing system that can handle ceramics and metals and plastics and other sprayable/formable materials, with a good sized work envelope, will become that a serious hobbyist will be able to buy at a reasonable price. It'll be the equivalent of a guy who today has a knee mill and a decent lathe. And when that day comes, and as the technology improves, you'll be able to make durable, strong, safe, workable guns just by pushing the RUN button on the controller, and keeping the materials hoppers full. Eventually even surface finishes will improve to such an extent that for most part, secondary machining won't even be necessary except on critical part surfaces. The day will come when even barrels are made by additive metallurgy processes. They may need lapping after being made, though. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:55:22 PM EDT
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No shit, huh?
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:56:16 PM EDT
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I hope Anderson and PSA keep selling all the low cost low quality items they possibly can. I want to see these numbers going up, up, up, up for this exact reason. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:58:45 PM EDT
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Holy Shit! One person at least can see reality for what it is!
ETA: only 15 million?  There's AT LEAST probably triple that!
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Posted: 8/9/2019 12:59:33 PM EDT
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And this is where we should appreciate PSA for what they have done in making AR's so commonplace.
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:00:35 PM EDT
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Mass shootings get far more Press coverage. Yet account for an extremely small fraction of actual shootings in America.
And it's a commonly held belief that the vast majority of mass shootings are done by white people. 
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:01:32 PM EDT
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Like it or not we are seeing a shift from banning items to simply making them ridiculously difficult to buy.
That is where the smart money is. The left wants to make your entire life public record and searchable. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:01:32 PM EDT
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Where's the video by the owner of PSA where he says he wants to make ARs so common they are impossible to ban?
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:03:34 PM EDT
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Mid-way through the article:
"forced confiscation or a major cultural shift" In a nutshell, what the left desires to accomplish! |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:05:52 PM EDT
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Flooding the market is absolutely required, for a number of reasons. Namely upcoming legal challenges - "common use." Kinda hard to say it's "not in common use" when there are over 15 million of them legally owned in citizen hands and over 1 million are sold a year. . |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:06:26 PM EDT
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The day will come when having a 3D printing system that can handle ceramics and metals and plastics and other sprayable/formable materials, with a good sized work envelope, will become that a serious hobbyist will be able to buy at a reasonable price. It'll be the equivalent of a guy who today has a knee mill and a decent lathe. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:07:18 PM EDT
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Boom Chaka Laka It’s Too Late to Ban Assault Weapons
The half-life of military-style rifles ensures they’ll be with us for many generations. Time to deal with the world as it is. With proper care and maintenance, an AR-15 rifle manufactured today will fire just as effectively in the year 2119 and probably for decades after that.
There are currently around 15 million military-style rifles in civilian hands in the United States. They are very rarely used in suicides or crimes. But when they are, the bloodshed is appalling. Acknowledging the grim reality that we will live among these guns indefinitely is a necessary first step toward making the nation safer. Frustratingly, calling for military-style rifles bans — as I have done for years — may be making other lifesaving gun laws harder to pass. President Trump on Wednesday — touring two mass shooting sites in Ohio and Texas — said that “there is no political appetite” for a new ban of assault weapons. Never mind that a majority of Americans support such a ban. Short of forced confiscation or a major cultural shift, our great-great-great-grandchildren will live side-by-side with the guns we have today and make tomorrow. That also means that we’re far closer to the beginning of the plague of mass public shootings with military-style weapons than we are to the end. Little wonder that major companies are now including mass shootings in their risk to shareholder filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Not only is confiscation politically untenable — the compliance rates of gun owners when bans are passed are laughably low. The distribution of these weapons across society makes even their prohibition nearly impossible. In 1996, Australia launched a mandatory gun buyback of 650,000 military-style weapons. While gun ownership per capita in the country declined by more than 20 percent, today Australians own more guns than they did before the buyback. New Zealand’s leaders, in the wake of the Christchurch massacre, launched a compulsory buyback effort for the tens of thousands of military-style weapons estimated to be in the country.
For context: In 2016 alone, more than one million military-style weapons were added to America’s existing civilian arsenal, according to industry estimates. Not only are the number of total guns in America orders of magnitude larger than other nations, the political imagination is far less ambitious. Consider a federal assault weapons ban that Democrats introduced this year. It is purely a messaging bill since there was no chance it will win support from Republicans and become law. Yet even this thought experiment falls far short: The bill bans military-style weapons, except for the millions of military-style weapons already in circulation. 
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:07:45 PM EDT
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I contend that it is not too late based on the number of weapons already in circulation, rather, the convictions of the number of individuals not willing to abide by any confiscatory laws.
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:07:48 PM EDT
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I wonder what they are going to bitch about when directed energy weapons are a thing?
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:09:00 PM EDT
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State-by-state is the plan against us
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:09:02 PM EDT
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I’m surprised this didn’t disappear like the global warming being caused by the sun article.
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:09:35 PM EDT
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Where's the video by the owner of PSA where he says he wants to make ARs so common they are impossible to ban? |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:09:46 PM EDT
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Hard to believe they're publishing the 15M number.
There's a lot more than that, but they used to report it as a fringe weapon. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:10:34 PM EDT
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Flawless Palmetto State Armory victory
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:13:07 PM EDT
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That number may for complet rifles and not stripped lowers and kit forms. They are not even counting in 80% kits
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:15:43 PM EDT
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With proper care and maintenance, an AR-15 rifle manufactured today will fire just as effectively in the year 2119 and probably for decades after that. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:15:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They banned a lot more than military style weapons. Lots of people didn't bother turning them in. 7 It's gotta be higher. There's like 500m guns in the US and only 15m are MSRs? 15 million was a number sold since the AWB ended, and is out if date by several years. ETA: 500 million is.low. Very low. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:17:27 PM EDT
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3-D printing in metals and ceramics already exists, of course. And it's relatively expensive. But it'll get cheaper and more readily available in the years to come. The day will come when having a 3D printing system that can handle ceramics and metals and plastics and other sprayable/formable materials, with a good sized work envelope, will become that a serious hobbyist will be able to buy at a reasonable price. It'll be the equivalent of a guy who today has a knee mill and a decent lathe. And when that day comes, and as the technology improves, you'll be able to make durable, strong, safe, workable guns just by pushing the RUN button on the controller, and keeping the materials hoppers full. Eventually even surface finishes will improve to such an extent that for most part, secondary machining won't even be necessary except on critical part surfaces. The day will come when even barrels are made by additive metallurgy processes. They may need lapping after being made, though. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:17:32 PM EDT
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Hard to believe they're publishing the 15M number. There's a lot more than that, but they used to report it as a fringe weapon. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:18:36 PM EDT
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It's gotta be higher. There's like 500m guns in the US and only 15m are MSRs? |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:18:39 PM EDT
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State-by-state is the plan against us |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:20:28 PM EDT
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I’m surprised this didn’t disappear like the global warming being caused by the sun article. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:20:33 PM EDT
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In-fucking-shallah.
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:20:50 PM EDT
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That number may for complet rifles and not stripped lowers and kit forms. They are not even counting in 80% kits |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:26:29 PM EDT
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Where's the video by the owner of PSA where he says he wants to make ARs so common they are impossible to ban?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3eQGOCHsi4Thanks, Mr. McCallum. You're a real hero of freedom! It's been an honor to give you so much of my hard earned money to receive so much value (and beyond just the material value) in return. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:26:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: yup. agree 100%. makes it harder to get them banned. |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:31:45 PM EDT
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They don't need to ban rifles all they need to do is ban half the people from ownership
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Posted: 8/9/2019 1:32:59 PM EDT
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The NYT had proven that even a broken clock gets the correct time at least once a day.
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Posted: 8/9/2019 2:02:03 PM EDT
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Quote History |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 2:02:43 PM EDT
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State-by-state is the plan against us |
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Posted: 8/9/2019 2:04:58 PM EDT
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Hard to believe they're publishing the 15M number. There's a lot more than that, but they used to report it as a fringe weapon. My favorite was: "Those are man-killers. What do you want that for?" My response: "You just said it." Can't tell you how many times I watched the blood drain from someone's face after I said that. But my all-time, never gets old favorite is: When the subject of Fifty-caliber sniper rifles comes up and some Fudd says, "What do you hunt with that?" My answer was always, "Semi's." JOKING....JOKING.
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Posted: 8/9/2019 2:10:11 PM EDT
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Their line of "The majority of American's support an AWB" smells like bullshit. If it were true they'd call for an outright ban on civilian ownership and an immediate confiscation or turn in with anyone not doing it a felon after a short period of time.
But very few on the left are doing that. Even the nutcases among the 2020 hopefuls aren't going that far. They couch it behind terms like "buy back". If the support they claim exists they wouldn't have to do that. |
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