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Posted: 5/15/2021 12:19:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Article says the ship’s tracking systems weren’t detecting them. Can CIWS be targeted with Mark One eyeball? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don't our warships have CWIS? Curious why we are not engaging these things when they are following our ships. Article says the ship’s tracking systems weren’t detecting them. Can CIWS be targeted with Mark One eyeball? I think Fraver said their UFO's were tracked by radar but I have no idea to what degree and whether it was enough for a weapons system. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 12:26:07 AM EST
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I was pretty excited for a while but now it just seems like more and more dragged out bullshit. I wish they would just release everything. I honestly am not sure what I believe at this point. I'd like to think China Russia etc couldn't pull this stuff off. One of the things that really resonated with me was one of Joe Rogan's guests talking about how if it was a foreign power that had the technology why wouldn't they just take over all air business. They could own international travel and transport.
I really do think the scientific community should be in charge of this stuff. Once something gets deemed a threat by big daddy gov we'll never know the whole truth. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 12:44:31 AM EST
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Best case scenario this shit is ours and we're testing it on US military assets to get performance info.
Worst case scenario it's Chinese. I don't think there's any way any of this is alien. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 12:51:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Best case scenario this shit is ours and we're testing it on US military assets to get performance info. Worst case scenario it's Chinese. I don't think there's any way any of this is alien. Lol. The Chinese can’t make a single fighter aircraft that isn’t a direct ripoff of Russian or US tech with LOTS of problems. Anyone who thinks this is foreign is retarded. If it’s now ours, it’s not from earth. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 12:58:53 AM EST
[#5]
Aliens?
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Posted: 5/15/2021 1:00:28 AM EST
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Dems building the narrative for scary “Awiens”?
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Posted: 5/15/2021 1:04:18 AM EST
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Sure as heck seems like there's a convergence of absolute weirdness right now that the world has never seen: UFOs, COVID, vaccines, wars and threat of wars, MASKS, transexual-transwhatever-gaymentalillness, critical race theory, racism, white guilt, intersectionalism, WTF, and on and on and on...
It's only going to increase. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 1:04:49 AM EST
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6 feet happens to be the diameter of an Ohio-class missile tube.
Wonder what's in the VLS on the USS Florida these days... |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 1:07:54 AM EST
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 “UAV” toyed with a warship for 90 mins, and NO one got a clear photo??? ALL these close encounters…. Not a single in-focus pic???
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Posted: 5/15/2021 1:14:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: “UAV” toyed with a warship for 90 mins, and NO one got a clear photo??? ALL these close encounters…. Not a single in-focus pic??? +1 Decades of these "sightings" and not one single usable photo that hasn't been debunked? Yeah, this is US high tech testing. We've been in space for 50 years and zero hard evidence for "aliens" has been accumulated. How many trillions of dollars has been spent by the US defense industries for R&D? Plenty of nefarious shit going on, but it's all on earth and caused by humanoids. Fucking aliens... |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 1:20:30 AM EST
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IMO, 3 possibilities.
1. Ours (as in USA) and classified but ready to be slow rolled out into the public eye (but have been up for 20+ years) 2. Not ours (as in China, Russia etc). Not as scary as other possibilities but still a threat. 3. Little green (or grey) men who may or may not want to put things in our butts. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 1:22:24 AM EST
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Why do they spend time talking up the sensor capabilities of these Navy ships, then show a video that looks like somebody using a flip phone to record a computer screen actually displaying the footage?
FFS, everyone in the country is walking around with a 4k video camera in their pocket. We all know if these images were in UHD we'd be able to identify them very quickly as either real or fake. Instead they give us the same blurry blobs we got on still images in the 70's. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 1:31:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At one point it was fun or maybe qaint to think of these as extraterrestrial UFOs that were randomly visiting for whatever reason. But with frequency these are now sighted, i think they are clearly terrestrial in origin. It's either that or they (aliens) are testing our defenses and setting up for an all out assault on the planet. I'm hoping it's the former. Aliens testing our defenses or deciding to attack us would look nothing like "they have crazy wicked better versions of what we have" If they can get here, defeating us would be as simple as "snap" we are defeated. Like everyone on earth heart stops in an instant or our toenails rip off and slash our throats. Whatever it is, it would not be our technology vs theirs. It would be an absolute level of whatever they wanted to happen. We may or may not recognize what is happening and there would be nothing we can do about it. from our perspective, it would be magic and probably a lot of things that make no sense. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 1:39:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aliens testing our defenses or deciding to attack us would look nothing like "they have crazy wicked better versions of what we have" If they can get here, defeating us would be as simple as "snap" we are defeated. Like everyone on earth heart stops in an instant or our toenails rip off and slash our throats. Whatever it is, it would not be our technology vs theirs. It would be an absolute level of whatever they wanted to happen. We may or may not recognize what is happening and there would be nothing we can do about it. from our perspective, it would be magic and probably a lot of things that make no sense. *disheveled alien soldier walks into their COC* "Sir, we're getting massacred out there! No matter how high our energy defensive shields are turned up, we still die!" "what band are they using, soldier? Calibrate your shields for full spectrum!" "No sir, it appears to be high velocity metal propelled by a thermochemical reaction!" "Decomposing gases? Metals? We're doomed!" *Heavy Six bursts in, alien ears on a necklace, gasping for breath, and smoking aliens left and right with a PSA sub-$400 special with an NCStar red dot* |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 1:44:32 AM EST
[#15]
wrong thread
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Posted: 5/15/2021 2:10:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm hoping it goes more like this: *disheveled alien soldier walks into their COC* "Sir, we're getting massacred out there! No matter how high our energy defensive shields are turned up, we still die!" "what band are they using, soldier? Calibrate your shields for full spectrum!" "No sir, it appears to be high velocity metal propelled by a thermochemical reaction!" "Decomposing gases? Metals? We're doomed!" *Heavy Six bursts in, alien ears on a necklace, gasping for breath, and smoking aliens left and right with a PSA sub-$400 special with an NCStar red dot* Damn... I was able to follow & understand all of that... !!!  |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 2:28:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would be so sad and ironic that after decades of wanting to believe, that in the end, it may be just all gov bullshit. Our government has lied to us so much, we instinctively think everything they say is a lie, even when they do a 180 on something. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 2:31:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm hoping it goes more like this: *disheveled alien soldier walks into their COC* "Sir, we're getting massacred out there! No matter how high our energy defensive shields are turned up, we still die!" "what band are they using, soldier? Calibrate your shields for full spectrum!" "No sir, it appears to be high velocity metal propelled by a thermochemical reaction!" "Decomposing gases? Metals? We're doomed!" *Heavy Six bursts in, alien ears on a necklace, gasping for breath, and smoking aliens left and right with a PSA sub-$400 special with an NCStar red dot* Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Aliens testing our defenses or deciding to attack us would look nothing like "they have crazy wicked better versions of what we have" If they can get here, defeating us would be as simple as "snap" we are defeated. Like everyone on earth heart stops in an instant or our toenails rip off and slash our throats. Whatever it is, it would not be our technology vs theirs. It would be an absolute level of whatever they wanted to happen. We may or may not recognize what is happening and there would be nothing we can do about it. from our perspective, it would be magic and probably a lot of things that make no sense. *disheveled alien soldier walks into their COC* "Sir, we're getting massacred out there! No matter how high our energy defensive shields are turned up, we still die!" "what band are they using, soldier? Calibrate your shields for full spectrum!" "No sir, it appears to be high velocity metal propelled by a thermochemical reaction!" "Decomposing gases? Metals? We're doomed!" *Heavy Six bursts in, alien ears on a necklace, gasping for breath, and smoking aliens left and right with a PSA sub-$400 special with an NCStar red dot* “Ah the large one! He’s very dangerous, that one! Abort mission!........why is there nacho cheese all over the door handle? |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 2:32:42 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryNot far off. I for one welcome our squid overlords. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 2:33:41 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL at the people that think that any of this in any way disproves God  if aliens were proven to exist how would it not immediately render every major religous text invalid? it wouldn't disprove the existence of a God, but it would not be the God any of us know. it would throw the entire religious world into turmoil and I don't know how many religious people would be able to reconcile it. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 2:39:42 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Please, humans cannot build shit that gets anywhere near the capabilities described in these reports. "Muh black budget" doesn't even come close to describing how it can be done. If anything, it would be easier to do in the open, where you don't have to worry about hiding it, and where you can have the top minds in the world collaborating as effectively as possible. Remember back when the F117 was revealed around the time of Gulf War I? They were working on that as far back as the 70's! They can keep stuff secret if they want. With all the technological advancements since then, we can't make something "flying saucery"? Look, on the scale of likelihood I put "total fabrication by the government" well above "amazing unknown human technology", but the point is, the chance it's "aliens" is miniscule at best. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 2:44:15 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: if aliens were proven to exist how would it not immediately render every major religous text invalid? it wouldn't disprove the existence of a God, but it would not be the God any of us know. it would throw the entire religious world into turmoil and I don't know how many religious people would be able to reconcile it. How would it disprove traditional Judaism? The existence of aliens, even aliens with no, or different religious beliefs would not change or disprove traditional Judaism. If you are not Jewish, you dont need to be and there are more paths than the Jewish path to G-d. G-d created the heavens and the Earth. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 2:52:20 AM EST
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Posted: 5/15/2021 3:02:07 AM EST
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Posted: 5/15/2021 3:02:16 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure about the other ones, but this one could easily be a sub launched drone. I get the hype with the other vids, but not this one. What bugs me is why not just light it up. It's not big enough to be manned, what's the downside? Tiny Aliens way more advanced than us.
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Posted: 5/15/2021 3:05:41 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember back when the F117 was revealed around the time of Gulf War I? They were working on that as far back as the 70's! They can keep stuff secret if they want. With all the technological advancements since then, we can't make something "flying saucery"? Look, on the scale of likelihood I put "total fabrication by the government" well above "amazing unknown human technology", but the point is, the chance it's "aliens" is miniscule at best. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Please, humans cannot build shit that gets anywhere near the capabilities described in these reports. "Muh black budget" doesn't even come close to describing how it can be done. If anything, it would be easier to do in the open, where you don't have to worry about hiding it, and where you can have the top minds in the world collaborating as effectively as possible. Remember back when the F117 was revealed around the time of Gulf War I? They were working on that as far back as the 70's! They can keep stuff secret if they want. With all the technological advancements since then, we can't make something "flying saucery"? Look, on the scale of likelihood I put "total fabrication by the government" well above "amazing unknown human technology", but the point is, the chance it's "aliens" is miniscule at best. As cool as the F117 is it still used conventional propulsion and flew like a plane. One of the things about these craft is they don't appear to be plane like at all. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 3:40:26 AM EST
[#27]
I'm not sure who I would rather they take.
Us out of here Or all the tards out of here so we can start rebuilding |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 3:52:49 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Shame they don't take a shot at one of them.............let's see this "phenomena" run from an AAM If they don't get radar returns from them, how is that going to work? Also, AMRAAMs are nowhere near as fast as the claimed speed for these objects. A completely futile act of aggression against an unknown party sounds like a great idea. What could go wrong? |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 3:57:34 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The real reason for the vaccine is to protect them from us Or to catalogue us for them  TBF, if you told me FJB was an alien in some sort of human prosthetic suit that would be more plausible than him being the senile racist idiot that received the most votes ever. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 3:57:35 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They've been running the UFO psy-op for 70 years. TV shows, books, movies, music, etc.... The fact that they might play that card shows how desperate they are, but it also shows they think they can pull off the grand deception. Matthew 24:24 "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." Don't be deceived. Lol. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 4:02:36 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Submarine periscope can only see a few miles due to the curvature of Earth Do the flat earthers have an explanation for this? |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 4:10:35 AM EST
[#32]
Photo just looks like a mylar balloon.
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Posted: 5/15/2021 4:35:33 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was pretty excited for a while but now it just seems like more and more dragged out bullshit. I wish they would just release everything. I honestly am not sure what I believe at this point. I'd like to think China Russia etc couldn't pull this stuff off. One of the things that really resonated with me was one of Joe Rogan's guests talking about how if it was a foreign power that had the technology why wouldn't they just take over all air business. They could own international travel and transport. I really do think the scientific community should be in charge of this stuff. Once something gets deemed a threat by big daddy gov we'll never know the whole truth. If there is definitive proof that other world crafts are routinely visiting this planet, which it appears there is, then my instinct is that this all a controlled release to avoid panic and hysteria. Humans are generally retards and while many will be able to maturely digest this knowledge there will be 10's of millions of mouth breathers that will go bat shit crazy. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 4:37:05 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think Fraver said their UFO's were tracked by radar but I have no idea to what degree and whether it was enough for a weapons system. I believe that the "Tic Tacs" were tracked by multiple systems as well as visual. No heat sig though, IIRC. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 4:49:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They (supposedly) don't use flight surfaces or conventional propulsion. One of the theories that fits a lot of the behavior, including lack of sonic boom, is that they manipulate mass in and around them. There are hints of this in the US Navy "UFO" patents that surfaced a couple years ago. If the air that collides with them is without mass it imparts no resistance or friction heating, so the craft doesn't have to be at all aerodynamic, or hydrodynamic to travel through water. If it uses some kind of field generator for propulsion it could be mounted centrally, without some air intake-engine-exhaust or horizontal rotor propulsion that would give different models a common shape. The hull can be whatever shape is most convenient for its components and payload, since it hardly has to consider external conditions at all. Lockheed Martin has a measurement tool that could detect these kinds of physics shenanigans: Gravity Gradiometer If they are able to manipulate mass then they could be detected/observed. The recent (at least as far as I know LOL) nautical aspect of the UFOs is interesting. To randomly speculate for a minute I would wonder how you would jump from one dimension to another without the danger of materializing inside of a mountain. Initially you could jump into near Earth orbit, as you are unlikely to run into anything. Our species has recently (50 years) started to spend a lot more time observing near Earth. We still don't watch our oceans, so perhaps this is the UFO new hotness for an entry point? |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 7:03:52 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When I can kick the wreckage, I'll believe. When hot alien babes abduct me and use me for a sex slave I’ll believe. I already do believe but I kinda want to encourage them. I imagine they need my seed for their re breeding process. They’re likely us from the future after mRNA treatments went out of control and rendered future humans into decrepit little twats who can’t produce sperm. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 7:06:08 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not insignificant Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They are really pushing this UFO stuff lately. What are the odds they roll out a false-flag and use that to attempt to usher in global Not insignificant Project Blue Beam in a nutshell. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 7:10:27 AM EST
[#38]
Maybe the vaccines are for protection from the underwater flying objects?
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Posted: 5/15/2021 7:11:27 AM EST
[#39]
If I’ve said it once I’ve said it a thousand times, the vaccine is just alien marinade. They’re meal prepping!
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Posted: 5/15/2021 7:14:16 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They are really pushing this UFO stuff lately. What are the odds they roll out a false-flag and use that to attempt to usher in global That’s plausible. Space force was rolled out, now an uptick in ufo sighting confirmed by government entities since then.. makes you wonder. ETA: while I believe there is life outside of this earth, I also believe that some governments have the technology for these craft as well as other energy source technology. The time line here is suspect and would lead one to believe a government induced false flag event is on the horizon that could unite the entire world against one common enemy. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 7:15:18 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do the flat earthers have an explanation for this? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Submarine periscope can only see a few miles due to the curvature of Earth Do the flat earthers have an explanation for this? Yes. A movie studio.
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Posted: 5/15/2021 7:22:22 AM EST
[#42]
to be honest i think we could use an alien invasion right now...
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Posted: 5/15/2021 7:25:16 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: to be honest i think we could use an alien invasion right now... Was wanting a giant asteroid, but aliens will do. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 7:26:56 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: “UAV” toyed with a warship for 90 mins, and NO one got a clear photo??? ALL these close encounters…. Not a single in-focus pic??? Whatever the objects are, they most certainly do have clear detailed images, data, and video. The sources that get theses videos admit this. You are not going to see anything that demonstrates our surveillance, tracking, and defense capabilities. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 7:29:50 AM EST
[#45]
six feet in diameter????
so whatever was inside was really really small - right? |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 7:32:43 AM EST
[#46]
If they are aliens, they would probably look at us the way we look at ants
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Posted: 5/15/2021 7:33:20 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: dollars to donuts its china is asshoe Cant be, we haven't developed one yet. First US develops one, then democrats give them the plans or china steals the plans, then CHina builds one. See china is like 3m with forced slave labor. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 7:34:48 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They are really pushing this UFO stuff lately. What are the odds they roll out a false-flag and use that to attempt to usher in global Wondered the same thing. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 7:40:11 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: six feet in diameter???? so whatever was inside was really really small - right? I'm thinking, just like the tic tac vehicle in the other video, that these smaller vehicles are some kind of surveillance drone sent up as a spy plane from the larger manned ones that lie under the water. Remember the darting tic tac had a larger USO just under the surface of the water, causing a disturbance. |
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Posted: 5/15/2021 7:41:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only 6 ft in diameter? That's not what I expect from an intergalactic invasion. It's what I expect from a drone. Maybe some bad guys have some long range, throw away drones? Maybe we do? |
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