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Posted: 5/25/2023 10:12:31 PM EDT
Here's the teaser shot:
 Based on the 4th Gen Tacoma, we have a pretty good idea what the platform and drive train are going to be. I think there's a pretty good chance these come standard with the hybrid engine. https://www.autoblog.com/2023/05/25/2024-lexus-gx-teaser-reveal-date/ |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 10:13:48 PM EDT
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Going with the EV style lights I see..
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Posted: 5/25/2023 10:19:59 PM EDT
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Was behind an LX600 yesterday. Real boxy looking from the rear. GX looks to be following that trend.
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Posted: 5/25/2023 10:21:26 PM EDT
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I'll bet it's getting the TT v6 from the Tundra rather than the TT I4 from the Taco?
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Posted: 5/25/2023 10:26:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll bet it's getting the TT v6 from the Tundra rather than the TT I4 from the Taco? That might be possible, but I'd give it a thin chance. In general, the GX is more closely related to the Tacoma and 4Runner while the LX shares underpinnings with the Tundra and Sequoia. The i-FORCE MAX hybrid I4 turbo is rated for 326 hp and 465 lb-ft of torque. I would guess Toyota sees that as a great replacement for the 4.6L V8 with 301 hp and 329 lb-ft. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 10:30:24 PM EDT
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No rear window rolly down and no v8 no care, might as well just get the 4Runner.
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Posted: 5/25/2023 10:35:00 PM EDT
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Hard pass... I'll stick woth my good ol trusted 4.6l...
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Posted: 5/25/2023 10:37:51 PM EDT
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Will the tech be from 2006 this time?
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Posted: 5/25/2023 10:54:06 PM EDT
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Wasn't the GX the US version of the Toyota Land Cruiser Prado?
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:03:36 PM EDT
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I’m curious about it but won’t be trading in my 2022 for one of them.
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:05:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn't the GX the US version of the Toyota Land Cruiser Prado? Yes, I have a 2023 in the driveway. I wanted the 23 before the 24's come out. They will be moving away from the V8 |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:06:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn't the GX the US version of the Toyota Land Cruiser Prado? Yes |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:09:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That might be possible, but I'd give it a thin chance. In general, the GX is more closely related to the Tacoma and 4Runner while the LX shares underpinnings with the Tundra and Sequoia. The i-FORCE MAX hybrid I4 turbo is rated for 326 hp and 465 lb-ft of torque. I would guess Toyota sees that as a great replacement for the 4.6L V8 with 301 hp and 329 lb-ft. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'll bet it's getting the TT v6 from the Tundra rather than the TT I4 from the Taco? That might be possible, but I'd give it a thin chance. In general, the GX is more closely related to the Tacoma and 4Runner while the LX shares underpinnings with the Tundra and Sequoia. The i-FORCE MAX hybrid I4 turbo is rated for 326 hp and 465 lb-ft of torque. I would guess Toyota sees that as a great replacement for the 4.6L V8 with 301 hp and 329 lb-ft. Didn't the old gx460 have the... 4.6l v8? And a 6 speed transmission? Both things the previous Tundra had. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:12:15 PM EDT
[#13]
does this mean 2020/2021s will be dropping into the low $30s
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:14:39 PM EDT
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I'll be on the lookout for a 2013-2015 w/~100k for low $20's.
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:19:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll be on the lookout for a 2013-2015 w/~100k for low $20's. Maybe in 5 years, they'll be down that low. $30k for that now. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:30:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In general, the GX is more closely related to the Tacoma and 4Runner while the LX shares underpinnings with the Tundra and Sequoia. Completely false. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:31:30 PM EDT
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4Runner for straight men.
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:33:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: does this mean 2020/2021s will be dropping into the low $30s  No.You lost your chance at cheap GX's a few years ago before people discovered them. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:38:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That might be possible, but I'd give it a thin chance. In general, the GX is more closely related to the Tacoma and 4Runner while the LX shares underpinnings with the Tundra and Sequoia. The i-FORCE MAX hybrid I4 turbo is rated for 326 hp and 465 lb-ft of torque. I would guess Toyota sees that as a great replacement for the 4.6L V8 with 301 hp and 329 lb-ft. I’m leaning TT V6…this is based on insider info but what do they know 
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:43:01 PM EDT
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Got a 23 last week. Wanted the V8.
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:48:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That might be possible, but I'd give it a thin chance. In general, the GX is more closely related to the Tacoma and 4Runner while the LX shares underpinnings with the Tundra and Sequoia. The i-FORCE MAX hybrid I4 turbo is rated for 326 hp and 465 lb-ft of torque. I would guess Toyota sees that as a great replacement for the 4.6L V8 with 301 hp and 329 lb-ft. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'll bet it's getting the TT v6 from the Tundra rather than the TT I4 from the Taco? That might be possible, but I'd give it a thin chance. In general, the GX is more closely related to the Tacoma and 4Runner while the LX shares underpinnings with the Tundra and Sequoia. The i-FORCE MAX hybrid I4 turbo is rated for 326 hp and 465 lb-ft of torque. I would guess Toyota sees that as a great replacement for the 4.6L V8 with 301 hp and 329 lb-ft. Historically true but lotta convergence - body on frame are now GA-F, tho I agree GX has always followed closer to 4Runner in the US. Engines been a key differentiator - outside the N210. Could go either way but I doubt the GX get lined up down market with with NX, RX T24A. The LS and LX, which the GX has always associated, already have the V35A so seems likely, but it's tension between creating upmarket cache versus CAFE efficiency - obviously GX buyers have never been moved by efficiency tho. My bets i-Force Max hybrid V6 but I see your point with similar power. Still feel the upmarket attachment prevailed. Very likely could split - T24A i-Force Max Base, V35A i-Force Max Premium, I but there's some risk created with undifferentiated lumps - regardless if there's a V35A it will be detuned. It'd make sense the TX gets the T24A, and the GX the V35A. Might as wel add the May 8th Lexus Pressroom teases  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 12:16:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn't the GX the US version of the Toyota Land Cruiser Prado? The current GX (the 460) is. The previous one was a 4Runner that had the V8 and was gussied up, that Gen 4Runner in Asia was called the Hilux Surf (as were the previous ones) but it was different than the Prado which existed along side it. The Hilux Surf is gone afaik. The Japanese market had some really cool accessories (including Toyota branded stuff) for the Surf. Nets to hang stuff inside, I think there was even a hammock for in interior. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 12:18:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't the old gx460 have the... 4.6l v8? And a 6 speed transmission? Both things the previous Tundra had. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'll bet it's getting the TT v6 from the Tundra rather than the TT I4 from the Taco? That might be possible, but I'd give it a thin chance. In general, the GX is more closely related to the Tacoma and 4Runner while the LX shares underpinnings with the Tundra and Sequoia. The i-FORCE MAX hybrid I4 turbo is rated for 326 hp and 465 lb-ft of torque. I would guess Toyota sees that as a great replacement for the 4.6L V8 with 301 hp and 329 lb-ft. Didn't the old gx460 have the... 4.6l v8? And a 6 speed transmission? Both things the previous Tundra had. The 4Runner also once had the 4.7L 2UZ-FE V8. The volume engine for the Tundra was the 3UR-FE 5.7L V8. That engine was also seen in the Land Cruiser, the Sequoia, and the LX, but to my knowledge, it was never offered in the GX. I don't think the 4.6L V8 has been offered in anything except the GX for several years. It's something of an orphan. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 12:20:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 4Runner also once had the 4.7L 2UZ-FE V8. The volume engine for the Tundra was the 3UR-FE 5.7L V8. That engine was also seen in the Land Cruiser, the Sequoia, and the LX, but to my knowledge, it was never offered in the GX. I don't think the 4.6L V8 has been offered in anything except the GX for several years. It's something of an orphan. The GX470 had the 4.7l V8. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 12:32:48 AM EDT
[#25]
somewhere is a big inline 6 with a turbo
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Posted: 5/26/2023 12:33:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Historically true but lotta convergence - body on frame are now GA-F, tho I agree GX has always followed closer to 4Runner in the US. Engines been a key differentiator - outside the N210. Could go either way but I doubt the GX get lined up down market with with NX, RX T24A. The LS and LX, which the GX has always associated, already have the V35A so seems likely, but it's tension between creating upmarket cache versus CAFE efficiency - obviously GX buyers have never been moved by efficiency tho. My bets i-Force Max hybrid V6 but I see your point with similar power. Still feel the upmarket attachment prevailed. Very likely could split - T24A i-Force Max Base, V35A i-Force Max Premium, I but there's some risk created with undifferentiated lumps - regardless if there's a V35A it will be detuned. It'd make sense the TX gets the T24A, and the GX the V35A. Might as wel add the May 8th Lexus Pressroom teases https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0200_jpeg-2829131.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0199_jpeg-2829125.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'll bet it's getting the TT v6 from the Tundra rather than the TT I4 from the Taco? That might be possible, but I'd give it a thin chance. In general, the GX is more closely related to the Tacoma and 4Runner while the LX shares underpinnings with the Tundra and Sequoia. The i-FORCE MAX hybrid I4 turbo is rated for 326 hp and 465 lb-ft of torque. I would guess Toyota sees that as a great replacement for the 4.6L V8 with 301 hp and 329 lb-ft. Historically true but lotta convergence - body on frame are now GA-F, tho I agree GX has always followed closer to 4Runner in the US. Engines been a key differentiator - outside the N210. Could go either way but I doubt the GX get lined up down market with with NX, RX T24A. The LS and LX, which the GX has always associated, already have the V35A so seems likely, but it's tension between creating upmarket cache versus CAFE efficiency - obviously GX buyers have never been moved by efficiency tho. My bets i-Force Max hybrid V6 but I see your point with similar power. Still feel the upmarket attachment prevailed. Very likely could split - T24A i-Force Max Base, V35A i-Force Max Premium, I but there's some risk created with undifferentiated lumps - regardless if there's a V35A it will be detuned. It'd make sense the TX gets the T24A, and the GX the V35A. Might as wel add the May 8th Lexus Pressroom teases https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0200_jpeg-2829131.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0199_jpeg-2829125.JPG That's a better argument. If Lexus still offered the GS, I'd probably look at that as a point of reference, too. The LS seems like too much of a low volume flagship to me at this point. I don't think it sells enough units to hit CAFE. The GX is more popular. I'm sure Toyota has worked out the math between the T24 and V35, and maybe it does make more sense to offer the V35 and charge a little more for product differentiation. I would just be a little surprised by that with the overall trends across the market. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 12:35:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: somewhere is a big inline 6 with a turbo It’s on the lot across the street with the Mazda sign out front |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 12:35:28 AM EDT
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Quoted: Here's the teaser shot: https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/1062x597/format/jpg/quality/100/https://s.aolcdn.com/os/ab/_cms/2023/05/25100218/20230525_02_01-copy.jpg Based on the 4th Gen Tacoma, we have a pretty good idea what the platform and drive train are going to be. I think there's a pretty good chance these come standard with the hybrid engine. https://www.autoblog.com/2023/05/25/2024-lexus-gx-teaser-reveal-date/ No teaser of the front? Probably because it’s made entirely out of grill. Something tells me it’s going to be hideous. Hope I’m wrong. Edit: should have read the replies Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'll bet it's getting the TT v6 from the Tundra rather than the TT I4 from the Taco? That might be possible, but I'd give it a thin chance. In general, the GX is more closely related to the Tacoma and 4Runner while the LX shares underpinnings with the Tundra and Sequoia. The i-FORCE MAX hybrid I4 turbo is rated for 326 hp and 465 lb-ft of torque. I would guess Toyota sees that as a great replacement for the 4.6L V8 with 301 hp and 329 lb-ft. Historically true but lotta convergence - body on frame are now GA-F, tho I agree GX has always followed closer to 4Runner in the US. Engines been a key differentiator - outside the N210. Could go either way but I doubt the GX get lined up down market with with NX, RX T24A. The LS and LX, which the GX has always associated, already have the V35A so seems likely, but it's tension between creating upmarket cache versus CAFE efficiency - obviously GX buyers have never been moved by efficiency tho. My bets i-Force Max hybrid V6 but I see your point with similar power. Still feel the upmarket attachment prevailed. Very likely could split - T24A i-Force Max Base, V35A i-Force Max Premium, I but there's some risk created with undifferentiated lumps - regardless if there's a V35A it will be detuned. It'd make sense the TX gets the T24A, and the GX the V35A. Might as wel add the May 8th Lexus Pressroom teases https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0200_jpeg-2829131.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0199_jpeg-2829125.JPG Looks like it might be pretty good looking. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 12:36:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The current GX (the 460) is. The previous one was a 4Runner that had the V8 and was gussied up, that Gen 4Runner in Asia was called the Hilux Surf (as were the previous ones) but it was different than the Prado which existed along side it. The Hilux Surf is gone afaik. The Japanese market had some really cool accessories (including Toyota branded stuff) for the Surf. Nets to hang stuff inside, I think there was even a hammock for in interior. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wasn't the GX the US version of the Toyota Land Cruiser Prado? The current GX (the 460) is. The previous one was a 4Runner that had the V8 and was gussied up, that Gen 4Runner in Asia was called the Hilux Surf (as were the previous ones) but it was different than the Prado which existed along side it. The Hilux Surf is gone afaik. The Japanese market had some really cool accessories (including Toyota branded stuff) for the Surf. Nets to hang stuff inside, I think there was even a hammock for in interior. J120 is J120 |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 12:45:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a better argument. If Lexus still offered the GS, I'd probably look at that as a point of reference, too. The LS seems like too much of a low volume flagship to me at this point. I don't think it sells enough units to hit CAFE. The GX is more popular. I'm sure Toyota has worked out the math between the T24 and V35, and maybe it does make more sense to offer the V35 and charge a little more for product differentiation. I would just be a little surprised by that with the overall trends across the market. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'll bet it's getting the TT v6 from the Tundra rather than the TT I4 from the Taco? That might be possible, but I'd give it a thin chance. In general, the GX is more closely related to the Tacoma and 4Runner while the LX shares underpinnings with the Tundra and Sequoia. The i-FORCE MAX hybrid I4 turbo is rated for 326 hp and 465 lb-ft of torque. I would guess Toyota sees that as a great replacement for the 4.6L V8 with 301 hp and 329 lb-ft. Historically true but lotta convergence - body on frame are now GA-F, tho I agree GX has always followed closer to 4Runner in the US. Engines been a key differentiator - outside the N210. Could go either way but I doubt the GX get lined up down market with with NX, RX T24A. The LS and LX, which the GX has always associated, already have the V35A so seems likely, but it's tension between creating upmarket cache versus CAFE efficiency - obviously GX buyers have never been moved by efficiency tho. My bets i-Force Max hybrid V6 but I see your point with similar power. Still feel the upmarket attachment prevailed. Very likely could split - T24A i-Force Max Base, V35A i-Force Max Premium, I but there's some risk created with undifferentiated lumps - regardless if there's a V35A it will be detuned. It'd make sense the TX gets the T24A, and the GX the V35A. Might as wel add the May 8th Lexus Pressroom teases https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0200_jpeg-2829131.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0199_jpeg-2829125.JPG That's a better argument. If Lexus still offered the GS, I'd probably look at that as a point of reference, too. The LS seems like too much of a low volume flagship to me at this point. I don't think it sells enough units to hit CAFE. The GX is more popular. I'm sure Toyota has worked out the math between the T24 and V35, and maybe it does make more sense to offer the V35 and charge a little more for product differentiation. I would just be a little surprised by that with the overall trends across the market. Lexus has always been very careful bout differentiation, much more so than VAG- internally Lexus flexes to ensure, Sato drew the lines, (recall he was Chief Branding Officer as well as Lexus (and Gazoo) President. See where he is now  Why I'm leaning to V35A - it's what Lexus would want. But much is changing and electrics are a wild card. The tea leaves are tough to read anymore and I don't get near the sugar I used to. Case in point - Lexus Yaris  |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 12:57:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's on the lot across the street with the Mazda sign out front  Attached FileNothing pisses me off worse than Lexus chucking co-op on that. Very unhappy with Nakajima. Very unhappy Sato acquiesced. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 12:59:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No teaser of the front? Probably because it's made entirely out of grill. Something tells me it's going to be hideous. Hope I'm wrong. Edit: should have read the replies Looks like it might be pretty good looking. Looks like a pain in the ass to wash I'm sure there's a lot of grille we don't see. Hopefully better integrated than the GX 460 refresh, but it's corp language for brand recognition, tho Bracken has noted Lexus realizes the styling polarizing, so we can hope. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 1:02:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lexus has always been very careful bout differentiation, much more so than VAG- internally Lexus flexes to ensure, Sato drew the lines, (recall he was Chief Branding Officer as well as Lexus (and Gazoo) President. See where he is now Why I'm leaning to V35A - it's what Lexus would want. But much is changing and electrics are a wild card. The tea leaves are tough to read anymore and I don't get near the sugar I used to. Case in point - Lexus Yaris Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'll bet it's getting the TT v6 from the Tundra rather than the TT I4 from the Taco? That might be possible, but I'd give it a thin chance. In general, the GX is more closely related to the Tacoma and 4Runner while the LX shares underpinnings with the Tundra and Sequoia. The i-FORCE MAX hybrid I4 turbo is rated for 326 hp and 465 lb-ft of torque. I would guess Toyota sees that as a great replacement for the 4.6L V8 with 301 hp and 329 lb-ft. Historically true but lotta convergence - body on frame are now GA-F, tho I agree GX has always followed closer to 4Runner in the US. Engines been a key differentiator - outside the N210. Could go either way but I doubt the GX get lined up down market with with NX, RX T24A. The LS and LX, which the GX has always associated, already have the V35A so seems likely, but it's tension between creating upmarket cache versus CAFE efficiency - obviously GX buyers have never been moved by efficiency tho. My bets i-Force Max hybrid V6 but I see your point with similar power. Still feel the upmarket attachment prevailed. Very likely could split - T24A i-Force Max Base, V35A i-Force Max Premium, I but there's some risk created with undifferentiated lumps - regardless if there's a V35A it will be detuned. It'd make sense the TX gets the T24A, and the GX the V35A. Might as wel add the May 8th Lexus Pressroom teases https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0200_jpeg-2829131.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0199_jpeg-2829125.JPG That's a better argument. If Lexus still offered the GS, I'd probably look at that as a point of reference, too. The LS seems like too much of a low volume flagship to me at this point. I don't think it sells enough units to hit CAFE. The GX is more popular. I'm sure Toyota has worked out the math between the T24 and V35, and maybe it does make more sense to offer the V35 and charge a little more for product differentiation. I would just be a little surprised by that with the overall trends across the market. Lexus has always been very careful bout differentiation, much more so than VAG- internally Lexus flexes to ensure, Sato drew the lines, (recall he was Chief Branding Officer as well as Lexus (and Gazoo) President. See where he is now Why I'm leaning to V35A - it's what Lexus would want. But much is changing and electrics are a wild card. The tea leaves are tough to read anymore and I don't get near the sugar I used to. Case in point - Lexus Yaris Is the biggest reason to favor the V35 in the GX… NVH?
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Posted: 5/26/2023 1:15:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the biggest reason to favor the V35 in the GX NVH? Fair point - tho much of what Lexus (and Premium Toyota) done with NVHE made intrusion extremely attenuated, T24A sounds worse standing quarter front than you'd ever imagine if you'd only been inside the NX. But V35A would simplify, |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 1:34:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That might be possible, but I'd give it a thin chance. In general, the GX is more closely related to the Tacoma and 4Runner while the LX shares underpinnings with the Tundra and Sequoia. The i-FORCE MAX hybrid I4 turbo is rated for 326 hp and 465 lb-ft of torque. I would guess Toyota sees that as a great replacement for the 4.6L V8 with 301 hp and 329 lb-ft. My GX 470 has the exact same drivetrain as the LX 470 and Land Cruiser 100 Series. (4.7 2UZ) The GX 460 was only different because the 5.7L v8 in the LX 570 and Land Cruiser 200 Series was overkill and too big for the GX size. The 4.6 was plenty for it. No way they will stick the 4 banger from the Tacoma into the 3rd gen GX. It’s a Lexus and the American cousin to the Toyota Land Cruiser Prado. It’s not the flagship LX/LC, but it’s still technically a Land Cruiser. I would wager that it will get a detuned version of the TT v6 from the LX600. All that said, the GX is the king of Toyota 4x4s. Tacomas and 4Runners are the most popular, but they are incredibly overpriced for what they are; Tacoma is a cramped truck that can’t haul anything and the 4Runner is laughably underpowered. LX and 200 Series LC are the flagships, but they are massive and heavy and also ridiculously expensive. The GX is the perfect overland vehicle. Lexus luxury, Toyota reliability, 4Runner size, Land Cruiser drivetrain. It’s the best of all worlds. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 1:41:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The current GX (the 460) is. The previous one was a 4Runner that had the V8 and was gussied up, that Gen 4Runner in Asia was called the Hilux Surf (as were the previous ones) but it was different than the Prado which existed along side it. The Hilux Surf is gone afaik. The Japanese market had some really cool accessories (including Toyota branded stuff) for the Surf. Nets to hang stuff inside, I think there was even a hammock for in interior. False The 1st Gen GX is a 120 Series Land Cruiser. 4Runner = Hilux Surf GX 470 (J120) = Land Cruiser Prado 120 (J120) The GX shares it’s frame/size with the 4Runner. That’s literally where the similarities end. The GX is just a smaller version of the Land Cruiser. The US market just never got the global version (LC Prado). |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 1:47:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll be on the lookout for a 2013-2015 w/~100k for low $20's. Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll be on the lookout for a 2013-2015 w/~100k for low $20's. LMAO!!!!!!! You’ll pay that much for a 100k mile ‘03-09 GX 470. That’s also an odd range of years to pick because the 2013 is a lot different than the refreshed ‘14-15. If you want a 2014+ with 100k you’ll need to change that to low $30s. Quoted: does this mean 2020/2021s will be dropping into the low $30s Sure… In 15-20 years. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 1:48:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No rear window rolly down and no v8 no care, might as well just get the 4Runner. Just did. No regerts. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 2:05:04 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My GX 470 has the exact same drivetrain as the LX 470 and Land Cruiser 100 Series. (4.7 2UZ) The GX 460 was only different because the 5.7L v8 in the LX 570 and Land Cruiser 200 Series was overkill and too big for the GX size. The 4.6 was plenty for it. They aren't - J120 GX VF4B is a Torsen center diff - the HF2A in the LX and LC100 has an open diff without a Torsen. There's other differences. '00 front to 4 pinion, A750F and diff gears 4.10 came in on refresh, VVTI, so all J100s themselves didn't have identical drivetrains. The differentiation between GX and LX was primarily due to the same calculus that will be in play if the V35A ends up in the GX. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 2:41:10 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LMAO!!!!!!! You’ll pay that much for a 100k mile ‘03-09 GX 470. That’s also an odd range of years to pick because the 2013 is a lot different than the refreshed ‘14-15. If you want a 2014+ with 100k you’ll need to change that to low $30s. Sure… In 15-20 years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'll be on the lookout for a 2013-2015 w/~100k for low $20's. LMAO!!!!!!! You’ll pay that much for a 100k mile ‘03-09 GX 470. That’s also an odd range of years to pick because the 2013 is a lot different than the refreshed ‘14-15. If you want a 2014+ with 100k you’ll need to change that to low $30s. Quoted: does this mean 2020/2021s will be dropping into the low $30s Sure… In 15-20 years. Damn. Guess I'll be holding on to my 2014 Luxury with 150k miles a little bit longer then. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 2:44:53 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They aren't - J120 GX VF4B is a Torsen center diff - the HF2A in the LX and LC100 has an open diff without a Torsen. There's other differences. '00 front to 4 pinion, A750F and diff gears 4.10 came in on refresh, VVTI, so all J100s themselves didn't have identical drivetrains. The differentiation between GX and LX was primarily due to the same calculus that will be in play if the V35A ends up in the GX. They were all 4.7 2UZ, though. The GX (03-09) added VVTI in ‘05. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 3:15:37 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn't the GX the US version of the Toyota Land Cruiser Prado? Yes |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 3:21:15 AM EDT
[#43]
Rumor is the LC is coming back to North America. If it’s the 300 series I’ll be selling my 200 to get one. It might be the smaller LC Prado version in which case I’ll pass.
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Posted: 5/26/2023 3:22:07 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They were all 4.7 2UZ, though. The GX (03-09) added VVTI in '05. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They aren't - J120 GX VF4B is a Torsen center diff - the HF2A in the LX and LC100 has an open diff without a Torsen. There's other differences. '00 front to 4 pinion, A750F and diff gears 4.10 came in on refresh, VVTI, so all J100s themselves didn't have identical drivetrains. The differentiation between GX and LX was primarily due to the same calculus that will be in play if the V35A ends up in the GX. They were all 4.7 2UZ, though. The GX (03-09) added VVTI in '05. All had the same engine, sure, with substantially the same dev cycle, which isn't included in the drivetrain - tho I figured you meant powertrain since you mentioned the engine. Regardless 120 GX doesn't share nearly as much content with J100s as it does other models on the same platform. The N210 V8 Limited had the same A750F, VF4B, axles, etc as the GX470, on the same chassis with nearly identical suspensions when HCS was optioned. Really it's the V8 N210 that shares more powertrain with the GX than any of the J100s. FWIW there's a lot shared across Prado, GX, 4R/Surf, FJ and the front half of the 2nd Gen Taco since they derived from original J120 Platform Koyari's team developed. |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 4:29:35 AM EDT
[#45]
This gonna make my 2018 look like a dinosaur
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Posted: 5/26/2023 5:28:54 AM EDT
[#46]
They purposely aren't showing the front. It ain't gonna be pretty.
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Posted: 5/26/2023 7:23:40 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: does this mean 2020/2021s will be dropping into the low $30s Not likely. People that know, will want the v8. If anything, I see it going the other way first. Eta also, to me, the pic in the op looks like a 2000 jeep Cherokee from the back. Really square... |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 9:48:20 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My GX 470 has the exact same drivetrain as the LX 470 and Land Cruiser 100 Series. (4.7 2UZ) Our '09 GX470 engine looks very different from the '05 LX470 that I looked at recently. I thought they were different. Or, did earlier GX470s have different engines than newer ones? |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 10:32:14 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They purposely aren't showing the front. It ain't gonna be pretty. ALL grill.
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Posted: 5/26/2023 10:38:13 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Our '09 GX470 engine looks very different from the '05 LX470 that I looked at recently. I thought they were different. Or, did earlier GX470s have different engines than newer ones? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My GX 470 has the exact same drivetrain as the LX 470 and Land Cruiser 100 Series. (4.7 2UZ) Our '09 GX470 engine looks very different from the '05 LX470 that I looked at recently. I thought they were different. Or, did earlier GX470s have different engines than newer ones? 2UZ-FE was basically same throughout run - mid year break in '05 when VVTi came in with ACIS, plastic intake runners, castings/heads were identical, don't recall any accessory differences (alt upgrade isn't much). Visual difference - lost the trans dipstick second year A750F, cover on GX pre/post VVTi, pretty certain the LX cover was same through run. Did you have the top cover off? |
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