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Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:48:58 AM EDT
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I'd love to know what happened after 2012 to make the entirety of the dem machine switch from , "the Russians are our allies now" to what we see today .

They invaded Crimea and Hussein did exactly jack shit about it . Now ?

The disparity of messages doesn't seem to bother anyone who can fall back on kill a commie for mommy ideology.

Being an 80s child I do love to watch Russian tanks explode , but the magnitude of policy change from 14 to 20 is just too large for me to forget it for too long .

Along with the fact that Dems haven't done anything in America's best interest in decades
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A better example would be "Trumps Russian Collusion". Although there was suspect linking from the get go, the constant droning drowned out any reasonable objection.

So now, even when those suspicions of validity are proven ironclad, nobody realizes the truth.

I'm willing to wait for more information, rather than hook my wagons to the emotionally satisfying explanation. Especially when the mechanisms surrounding the distribution of that linking falls within the pattern of manipulation.

But sure, I think we can all agree, Biden is cognitively impaired, morally bankrupt and quite likely not fit to serve as President. But Americans have moved on from holding any of their leadership to standards, as long as political outcomes favor their political beliefs.







I'd love to know what happened after 2012 to make the entirety of the dem machine switch from , "the Russians are our allies now" to what we see today .

They invaded Crimea and Hussein did exactly jack shit about it . Now ?

The disparity of messages doesn't seem to bother anyone who can fall back on kill a commie for mommy ideology.

Being an 80s child I do love to watch Russian tanks explode , but the magnitude of policy change from 14 to 20 is just too large for me to forget it for too long .

Along with the fact that Dems haven't done anything in America's best interest in decades

Fair observation - don't apply it solely to Ds tho. Examine it all.

It bothers me, and I'm sure from previous context a number here you may not think from this thread.

Russia and Putin favor NEITHER party - they favor Russia. Gaining advantage from playing EITHER is the game - and sowing confusion and dissent. Examining this thread, to a large part succeeding

Fxntime above is exactly correct


Link Posted: 9/30/2022 7:58:33 AM EDT
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Fair observation - don't apply it solely to Ds tho. Examine it all.

It bothers me, and I'm sure from previous context a number here you may not think from this thread.

Russia and Putin favor NEITHER party - they favor Russia. Gaining advantage from playing EITHER is the game - and sowing confusion and dissent. Examining this thread, to a large part succeeding

Fxntime above is exactly correct


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Agreed.

It really gets the hair on the back of my neck raised when both Dems and Rs agree on something
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:05:35 AM EDT
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Agreed.

It really gets the hair on the back of my neck raised when both Dems and Rs agree on something
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Fair observation - don't apply it solely to Ds tho. Examine it all.

It bothers me, and I'm sure from previous context a number here you may not think from this thread.

Russia and Putin favor NEITHER party - they favor Russia. Gaining advantage from playing EITHER is the game - and sowing confusion and dissent. Examining this thread, to a large part succeeding

Fxntime above is exactly correct





Agreed.

It really gets the hair on the back of my neck raised when both Dems and Rs agree on something

So it's clear, get INCREDIBLY concerned when Cincinnatus is accused en masse of communist leanings.

I'll fucking poke at holes in his arguments - but FFS, he's one hell of a deep agent if true.

For that matter - note how most of us decry Biden, Blinken, hell even Trump. Zero issue

Note who studiously avoids criticizing Putin. Some understandably. Fuck him he needs to go as well. See how this works?


Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:09:06 AM EDT
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I agree with all those points. But Biden is just the useful idiot. Someone else is making all these disastrous decisions. How many times have we seen him say “they’re going to be mad at me for that” or “they told me I’m not allowed to take questions” or something else along those lines. Whoever it is, is definitely out to destroy America and what it’s stood for.
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Examine Biden's work product since he's been president for the answer:

1) Steals the election while eating ice cream in the comfort of his basement.
2) Tries to mandate a sketchy and dangerous vax on everyone in America.
3) Cuts and runs from Afghanistan abandoning Americans and leaving enough weapons behind to start WW3.
4) Floods the USA with millions of illegal aliens and fentanyl.
5) Prints money like crazy which will create a huge recession/depression in America before the end of 2023.
6) Uses federal law enforcement to harass, persecute and arrest political opponents.
7) Vilifies half of America, threatens them with the military and suggests they will need F-15's to defeat him.
8) Threatens to end the Nordstream pipelines.

Did I miss anything?

Now is there anything there that suggests Biden is the type of personality to commit terrorism, crime or an act of war?


I agree with all those points. But Biden is just the useful idiot. Someone else is making all these disastrous decisions. How many times have we seen him say “they’re going to be mad at me for that” or “they told me I’m not allowed to take questions” or something else along those lines. Whoever it is, is definitely out to destroy America and what it’s stood for.


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Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:13:02 AM EDT
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Agreed.

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Reminds me of this creepy vid of Lindsey Graham and McCain in Ukraine telling some soldiers about how they'll help them in their war against Russia. "2017 will be the year of offense". I'd bet Lindsey and McCain were very much looking forward to president Hillary.

Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:18:30 AM EDT
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Fact:  Biden said (paraphrased):   “…. If Putin invades Ukraine…WE will end Nordstream”

It is a BIG problem when a country is led by a bumbling, dementia ridden buffoon.  

Only 2 possibilities:


1.  We actually blew up the pipeline.  
2.  Someone else blew up the pipeline and will exploit the POTUS threat.

Either one is bad.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:24:11 AM EDT
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Nothing except Biden publicly stating he would put an end to Nordstream2 if Russia invaded Ukraine.

(at 1:30) if Russia invades Ukraine, we will put an end to Nordstream 2

How much clearer could this possibly be that the US government blew up the pipelines?

Only a liberals are frantically looking elsewhere for someone else to falsely blame.
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28 pages and still no evidence to support any of the various statements that claim whodunit.


Nothing except Biden publicly stating he would put an end to Nordstream2 if Russia invaded Ukraine.

(at 1:30) if Russia invades Ukraine, we will put an end to Nordstream 2

How much clearer could this possibly be that the US government blew up the pipelines?

Only a liberals are frantically looking elsewhere for someone else to falsely blame.

He's a politician.  They say things all the time they don't mean or do.   Things also get misinterpreted.     I'm not saying the US didn't do it, but it's a huge step to take that and use it as the sole proof.   Lots of people could have done it and I've seen no proof.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:30:29 AM EDT
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Does that sound like a crafty and cunning villain who plans pipeline attacks months in advance?
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It’s not Biden. It’s never been Biden. It’s these people and thousands of accomplices and enablers behind them…

Attachment Attached File


ETA: And FedGov stakeholders helping them destroy the U.S.A. for a pension and job security.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:33:16 AM EDT
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I believe the gov of this country did blow up the pipeline.  They did it to provoke war, like they have been provoking the citizens of the country. They want conflict on every front to pave the way for one global gov and currency that they can control.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:34:04 AM EDT
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Germany was beginning to face a lot of protests to end the sanctions against Russia.

Seems to me, if the US and Germany are all in on the WEF great reset idea, then taking the pipeline off the table would advance their interests.  No point in protesting against sanctions against gas that can no longer flow through a damaged pipeline.  Can't have Europe happy and warm this winter if you want them miserable and desperate enough to accept global socialism.
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This.

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Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:36:43 AM EDT
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What about when they've filled w/ salt water and potentially sit filled w/ it for months or more?
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I'm pretty sure undersea pipelines are filled with salt water for months while being built. Once finished and sealed up, they pump out the seawater and send tooling through the line to prep it for gas transport.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:40:24 AM EDT
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Reminds me of this creepy vid of Lindsey Graham and McCain in Ukraine telling some soldiers about how they'll help them in their war against Russia. "2017 will be the year of offense". I'd bet Lindsey and McCain were very much looking forward to president Hillary.

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December 2016. After Trump had been elected and about a year before we started sending massive amounts of money to the Ukraine to arm them and Trump's DOD started sending trainers and advisers to the Ukraine to prepare them for the next Russia incursion into Ukrainian territory.  All of those actions are what gave the Ukraine the ability to withstand the onslaught and it also provided the policy basis for what the current administration is doing now. Oh, and it was all done by Republicans, including Trump, and they should be given credit for it.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:45:18 AM EDT
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Why would Russia use rec divers OR rig divers?

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Can the "who done it" be narrowed down by process of elimination? I'm guessing only a few nation state's have the resources and technology to carry out such a mission.
Resources and technology to blow something up under water?  Pretty much anyone with 1940s era technology can accomplish that.


Being a SCUBA diver, I didn't realize it was so easy to dive so deep and blow something up!

Almost 2,000 oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico. Won't be pretty if this becomes commonplace.
Heliox rebreather and the boom rigged to a slightly negatively buoyant platform. 4 guys per charge. Two boats, 2 men stay on each boat, two dive teams per boat. Twenty guys could do it. Could probably do it with 12 if you had to but the downtime would be longer.


Sure. Easy peasy. Might take some special training, you think? I have many SCUBA certifications but missed the BUD/S one. Besides, he made it sound like Jacques Cousteau was blowing up U-boats in 1942. And now DIY mini-subs! And that pipeline is so easy to fix after being dynamited! Some people ought to just stick to hating on Trump. LMAO.
It isn't a job for rec divers for sure. But it wouldn't be a stretch for rig divers, and there are quite a few out there. Basically any commercial divers with Trimix or Heliox experience could handle the dive part of it. It wasn't *that* deep, 300ft or so.

I'm a rec diver too and it isn't anything I'd do, but I know a couple of rig divers/welders and the one I spoke with didn't think it was a big deal from the dive standpoint. The not being detected is probably the biggest issue.

Why would Russia use rec divers OR rig divers?


Especially when they already have trained military who do this kind of thing for a living...
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:48:53 AM EDT
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Sure. I think. I am not a pipeline guy but I know they shove squeegee butt plug  things in there.  Seems like that would require product to be flowing to move it along...but maybe not.
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They're called pipeline pigs. They require pressure behind the pig to move it through the pipe, more pressure behind than in front.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:52:10 AM EDT
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A pants shitting retard would be exact type of person who would inadvertently, off the cuff discuss covert activities to demonstrate he is a persons with power or in the know.
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So now we’re talking about Trump?  
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:52:25 AM EDT
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Either he's a pants shitting retard or we trust everything he says.
Can't be both.
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You know the answer: A lot clearer, such as if there was evidence. The lack of evidence doesn't absolve US from involvement, but it negates your claim. You are simply re-stating a claim without evidence. No argument even exists, you're not actually making one.


Biden's statement is evidence.
It's fine with me if you want to defend him.
All the liberals are.



Either he's a pants shitting retard or we trust everything he says.
Can't be both.

Don't you know, he's Sauron Gump!

Can't take credit for that. Heard it during the GWB years with some comedian making fun of how the Libs regarded GWB. Simultaneously a complete idiot and an evil mastermind.

Now here we are...
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:52:34 AM EDT
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Biden has the same job as Ronald McDonald. And has an equal amount of say of what goes on.
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Does that sound like a crafty and cunning villain who plans pipeline attacks months in advance?


Biden has the same job as Ronald McDonald. And has an equal amount of say of what goes on.

This. Biden does/says what he's coached to do/say. He's pretty much a muppet.
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:53:46 AM EDT
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Biden's statement is evidence.
It's fine with me if you want to defend him.
All the liberals are.

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Extra potato and vodka ration for you, comrade!

Link Posted: 9/30/2022 8:57:13 AM EDT
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He's a politician.  They say things all the time they don't mean or do.   Things also get misinterpreted.     I'm not saying the US didn't do it, but it's a huge step to take that and use it as the sole proof.   Lots of people could have done it and I've seen no proof.
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28 pages and still no evidence to support any of the various statements that claim whodunit.


Nothing except Biden publicly stating he would put an end to Nordstream2 if Russia invaded Ukraine.

(at 1:30) if Russia invades Ukraine, we will put an end to Nordstream 2

How much clearer could this possibly be that the US government blew up the pipelines?

Only a liberals are frantically looking elsewhere for someone else to falsely blame.

He's a politician.  They say things all the time they don't mean or do.   Things also get misinterpreted.     I'm not saying the US didn't do it, but it's a huge step to take that and use it as the sole proof.   Lots of people could have done it and I've seen no proof.

And according to the notes that came out about the circumstances that led to the investigation of Gen Flynn, VPOTUS mentioned going after him for Logan Act which later happened.  

Whether VPOTUS had a flash of inspiration, his staff briefed him on the subject, or he saw discussions of the Logan Act on an episode of the West Wing that was aired around that time we will never know.  Or, for that matter whether VPOTUS’ mentioning of it was the genesis of the FBI investigation or they planning to use it before he mentioned it.
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Reminds me of this creepy vid of Lindsey Graham and McCain in Ukraine telling some soldiers about how they'll help them in their war against Russia. "2017 will be the year of offense". I'd bet Lindsey and McCain were very much looking forward to president Hillary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeWHviwLMy8
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Agreed.

It really gets the hair on the back of my neck raised when both Dems and Rs agree on something


Reminds me of this creepy vid of Lindsey Graham and McCain in Ukraine telling some soldiers about how they'll help them in their war against Russia. "2017 will be the year of offense". I'd bet Lindsey and McCain were very much looking forward to president Hillary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeWHviwLMy8


Wow! That's a heavy promise made back then.
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Wow! That's a heavy promise made back then.
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Its a great narrative, which continues to, rather baldly,  be put forward repeatedly - without any real context - which DKProf provided only once.

Likely since he felt it resolved the issue and people recognize this fact

Unfortunately, information exchange and persuasion doesn't work like this. Even demonstrably false information becomes accepted truth - merely by the interval of repetition.


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Take a lie, make it big enough and tell it often enough, and it becomes truth. US eeeeeevilllllllll
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 9:07:17 AM EDT
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It’s not Biden. It’s never been Biden. It’s these people and thousands of accomplices and enablers behind them…

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/197999/B7960B73-DB24-45DC-B8DA-9DEE5A38CD28_jpe-2544790.JPG

ETA: And FedGov stakeholders helping them destroy the U.S.A. for a pension and job security.
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Does that sound like a crafty and cunning villain who plans pipeline attacks months in advance?


It’s not Biden. It’s never been Biden. It’s these people and thousands of accomplices and enablers behind them…

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/197999/B7960B73-DB24-45DC-B8DA-9DEE5A38CD28_jpe-2544790.JPG

ETA: And FedGov stakeholders helping them destroy the U.S.A. for a pension and job security.


So who are they?
Link Posted: 9/30/2022 9:15:16 AM EDT
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Well, we all know Putin had to invade to get evidence from the 46 bio weapons labs that the US globalists were making Corona 2.0 because the first Corona and vaccine weren't deadly enough. Putin was also being a bro and once he got the records from Kyiv, expose Biden's "10% for the big guy".

So now that we've established that Putin is the last world leader to resist the WEF, what choice did he have?

So at that point, the Ukrainians fighting back (anyone fighting to the comedian/actor Zelensky) are fighting to protect the WEF/Bidens.


Americans are all about narratives not details. My sarcastic comments are in line with the narratives many here claim to espouse.
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Of course there are "bio labs" in Ukraine. Every country has them for medical research (Ohio has them too!) or for defensive purposes BUT these are not labs mass producing plagues and biological warfare agents,  etc. The biolabs are also used for agricultural purposes against blight and other dangers to crops since Ukraine is one of the largest agricultural exporters in the world.

This disinformation has been used as the excuse for Putin the " cHriSTIan sAVIOR fIghT'eN dA GloBALiSTs fEr aLL ''MerICaNs" to bomb Ukraine and InfoWarriors from Alexi Joneskov's fan club have been cheering him on along with Tucker's admirers. Here is the "great source" of info on this that YOU agree with: :



Funny how all the "CIA bio labs" are in countries Putin is trying to control and take over.
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Even if Putin did it, it's only because he had to.
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This is all for "outward consumption" (Russian disinformation term - look it up) - meaning Putin wants to appeal to the American right wing (that's what the RT News operation in America was for starting 20 years ago) so that it becomes a tool to apply pressure against any US foreign policy efforts to undermine Putin's true goals. He uses the Russian Orthodox church in the same way to give uninformed/gullible American Christians the idea that Russia is somehow some great Christian nation - about twice a month the "church" (KGB spies) releases some statement against gays, importance of the traditional family, satanic globalists, etc..
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Of course there are "bio labs" in Ukraine. Every country has them for medical research (Ohio has them too!) or for defensive purposes BUT these are not labs mass producing plagues and biological warfare agents,  etc. The biolabs are also used for agricultural purposes against blight and other dangers to crops since Ukraine is one of the largest agricultural exporters in the world.

This disinformation has been used as the excuse for Putin the " cHriSTIan sAVIOR fIghT'eN dA GloBALiSTs fEr aLL ''MerICaNs" to bomb Ukraine and InfoWarriors from Alexi Joneskov's fan club have been cheering him on along with Tucker's admirers. Here is the "great source" of info on this that YOU agree with: :



Funny how all the "CIA bio labs" are in countries Putin is trying to control and take over.

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Now you'd done it!!

You revealed that there are Bio-Labs in Ohio - Just what Putin needed to give the Russian Orcs exactly the caucus belli & excuse they needed to invade ...  OHIO!!!  

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Didn't mean to state the obvious, but you are right, we will never know.

Most people here despise Biden but love their country. And they want America to be the good guy. So they have a hard time believing our country under Biden would commit terrorism, crime and an act of war by blowing up a pipeline. Even when he says he would. And in a sad display, they give him the benefit of the doubt. Truth is, FJB has already done more horrible things to this country and the world.

Now if Trump had said the same thing as Biden, Pelosi would of started her 3rd impeachment for crimes against humanity and would be presenting the statement of "end Nordstream" as incontrovertible proof that he blew up the pipeline. And the state run MSM would run with it. Sadly, that's the type of country we live in now.

Conversely, if incontrovertible proof was presented that Biden did it, the MSM and big tech would bury it, just like they did the lap top and everything else. And even more sadly, that's the type of country we live in now.

So this mystery will never be solved. We'll never know, like you say.
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Well stated.

I'll add these types of shenanigans will get lost in the muck and mire( fog of war), it's just another mechanism towards reshaping the world. This meme sums it up....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Thompson
They're all puppets, even Fred.
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It wasn't just Biden and Nuland

We will do everything we can to make sure that that pipeline doesn't threaten Europe"
--Mike Pompeo

I believe Bolton also recently referred to Nord 1 and 2 as "national security threats" to both Europe and America.

Now that "threat" has been, temporarily at least, eliminated.

We can all sleep easier now
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This is all for "outward consumption" (Russian disinformation term - look it up) - meaning Putin wants to appeal to the American right wing (that's what the RT News operation in America was for starting 20 years ago) so that it becomes a tool to apply pressure against any US foreign policy efforts to undermine Putin's true goals. He uses the Russian Orthodox church in the same way to give uninformed/gullible American Christians the idea that Russia is somehow some great Christian nation - about twice a month the "church" (KGB spies) releases some statement against gays, importance of the traditional family, satanic globalists, etc..
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This is all for "outward consumption" (Russian disinformation term - look it up) - meaning Putin wants to appeal to the American right wing (that's what the RT News operation in America was for starting 20 years ago) so that it becomes a tool to apply pressure against any US foreign policy efforts to undermine Putin's true goals. He uses the Russian Orthodox church in the same way to give uninformed/gullible American Christians the idea that Russia is somehow some great Christian nation - about twice a month the "church" (KGB spies) releases some statement against gays, importance of the traditional family, satanic globalists, etc..

Like it or not almost all governments are running active internal and external IO programs.
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Seems to me, if the US and Germany are all in on the WEF great reset idea, then taking the pipeline off the table would advance their interests.  No point in protesting against sanctions against gas that can no longer flow through a damaged pipeline.  Can't have Europe happy and warm this winter if you want them miserable and desperate enough to accept global socialism.

FIFY
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If the Russians did it, would they not simply place an inspection thing-a-ma-jig with explosives into the pipe and let it run a few miles and then detonate?  Much easier than divers.
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It would help to see pics of the breaks to tell if they were caused by an internal or external source.
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It would help to see pics of the breaks to tell if they were caused by an internal or external source.
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Exactly. How many days has it been now and no one has viewed the "damage"?
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He's a politician.  They say things all the time they don't mean or do.   Things also get misinterpreted.     I'm not saying the US didn't do it, but it's a huge step to take that and use it as the sole proof.   Lots of people could have done it and I've seen no proof.
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Or his old brain can’t filter out things he’s told in secret briefs when he speaks to reporters.
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It would help to see pics of the breaks to tell if they were caused by an internal or external source.
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If the Russians did it, would they not simply place an inspection thing-a-ma-jig with explosives into the pipe and let it run a few miles and then detonate?  Much easier than divers.


It would help to see pics of the breaks to tell if they were caused by an internal or external source.

Pressure transducers along the pipeline would tell that story easily enough.
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Your proposed false flags would be blatant and require Putin to do something that he doesn't have the combat power to do short of WMDs.  I don't believe Putin is mush-brained enough to openly use nukes or chemical weapons.  Your proposed false flags would therefore result in Putin losing face and risking his life and political power.  I also believe that not even Biden is mush-brained enough to commit an act of war against Germany and/or Russia.

There are lots of theoretically possible scenarios ranging from a systemic design or manufacturing flaw to the US to China to terrorists, but Soviet KGB officer become dictator who's nuts are being squeezed in a vice of his own making is the least improbable by a fair margin.
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LOL, wut? He doesn't need nukes to stage some "Ukrainian" terrorist action. Shit, he just needs to have his KGB guys blow something up, or shoot something up, then deposit some captured Ukrainian soldiers bodies or bits therof as "proof" the Ukrainians did it. Jesus terrorist organizations have been doing this shit for decades without WMD's.

As for mush brain, he certainly gave Putin the "go flag" for the invasion. So it does not strain credulity that he would be this stupid? And thats assuming he actually is in charge of anything.

IDK who actually did this, but the US could see a benefit from it from several angles, as well as other countries like China and others that are re-selling Russian gas to Europe at a premium and don't particularly want that pipeline back online.
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Now you'd done it!!

You revealed that there are Bio-Labs in Ohio - Just what Putin needed to give the Russian Orcs exactly the caucus belli & excuse they needed to invade ...  OHIO!!!  

Bigger_Hammer


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Of course there are "bio labs" in Ukraine. Every country has them for medical research (Ohio has them too!) or for defensive purposes BUT these are not labs mass producing plagues and biological warfare agents,  etc. The biolabs are also used for agricultural purposes against blight and other dangers to crops since Ukraine is one of the largest agricultural exporters in the world.

This disinformation has been used as the excuse for Putin the " cHriSTIan sAVIOR fIghT'eN dA GloBALiSTs fEr aLL ''MerICaNs" to bomb Ukraine and InfoWarriors from Alexi Joneskov's fan club have been cheering him on along with Tucker's admirers. Here is the "great source" of info on this that YOU agree with: :

https://i.ibb.co/x6BzFkW/456-BA842-A796-4-BA3-BCDF-520441-FA8-C22-jpe-2303882-jpeg.jpg

Funny how all the "CIA bio labs" are in countries Putin is trying to control and take over.



Now you'd done it!!

You revealed that there are Bio-Labs in Ohio - Just what Putin needed to give the Russian Orcs exactly the caucus belli & excuse they needed to invade ...  OHIO!!!  

Bigger_Hammer



#iwishamotherfuckerwould
#mybodyisready

I've got a 5 ton military truck for hauling and plenty of parking space for captured Russian armor and vehicles.

Link Posted: 9/30/2022 10:31:11 AM EDT
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It can very much be both. Biden hears something in his little secret meetings, then blurts it out on TV after. It doesn't mean he's in charge of making any of those decisions or coming up with any of the plans.
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Either he's a pants shitting retard or we trust everything he says.
Can't be both.


It can very much be both. Biden hears something in his little secret meetings, then blurts it out on TV after. It doesn't mean he's in charge of making any of those decisions or coming up with any of the plans.

Or he just said something stupid, as usual. The point is it's not the "proof" some think it is.
You can't believe every word he says...or are you suggesting we can?


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Biden has NOTHING to do with US government policy.
He is OWNED by the deep state and says whatever he is told to say.
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One minute Biden is shitting his own pants and doesn't know what month it is, the next we're assuming something he said 7 months ago means we blew up a pipeline today.

Which is it?


Biden has NOTHING to do with US government policy.
He is OWNED by the deep state and says whatever he is told to say.

Ah gotcha. In that case nothing he says proves anything since he has nothing to do with policy.
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A pants shitting retard would be exact type of person who would inadvertently, off the cuff discuss covert activities to demonstrate he is a persons with power or in the know.
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You know the answer: A lot clearer, such as if there was evidence. The lack of evidence doesn't absolve US from involvement, but it negates your claim. You are simply re-stating a claim without evidence. No argument even exists, you're not actually making one.


Biden's statement is evidence.
It's fine with me if you want to defend him.
All the liberals are.



Either he's a pants shitting retard or we trust everything he says.
Can't be both.


A pants shitting retard would be exact type of person who would inadvertently, off the cuff discuss covert activities to demonstrate he is a persons with power or in the know.


It would also be the person who says something stupid and inconsequential.
The point is his comment means absolutely nothing.
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Reminds me of this creepy vid of Lindsey Graham and McCain in Ukraine telling some soldiers about how they'll help them in their war against Russia. "2017 will be the year of offense". I'd bet Lindsey and McCain were very much looking forward to president Hillary.

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Yep, it was all planned. They are all in on it and Hillary was their choice. Trump was the turd in the punch bowl and he screwed their plans. Everything back on track now.
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That sure looks like a lot of gas leaking from a shut off pipeline
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Shut off does not mean empty or not pressurized
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Shut off does not mean empty or not pressurized
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That sure looks like a lot of gas leaking from a shut off pipeline


Shut off does not mean empty or not pressurized
I would imagine that part of its integrity comes from it being pressurized.  The other thing to think about is that there are several pumping stations along the pipeline.  Typically, there are shutoffs at each pumping station.  I would be willing to bet that the damage is limited to whatever line exists between the pumping stations rather than the entire line.  Its not that hard to just relay the damaged section between stations.
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Or his old brain can’t filter out things he’s told in secret briefs when he speaks to reporters.
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If the Russians did it why is the line from Norway to Poland not destroyed?
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The next couple weeks could be spicy.
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Regardless who blew it up, I bet we will see the other pipelines in the area that feed into Europe blow up soon.  Pandora’s box has been opened


The next couple weeks could be spicy.


I thought it was a really bad wheat harvest the was supposed to kick things off…
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If the Russians did it why is the line from Norway to Poland not destroyed?
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Yup, it started operation the day before this happened right?

I know, the Norwegians did it!
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Like it or not almost all governments are running active internal and external IO programs.
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Nooooooooooooo. Only evil US does that. Based Russia is just telling it how it is noooooooo
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Nothing except Biden publicly stating he would put an end to Nordstream2 if Russia invaded Ukraine.

(at 1:30) if Russia invades Ukraine, we will put an end to Nordstream 2

How much clearer could this possibly be that the US government blew up the pipelines?

Only a liberals are frantically looking elsewhere for someone else to falsely blame.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/181959/FC3294EC-C780-4CD8-9450-B83E272A341D-2544534.png


He keeps getting away with it.
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Now you'd done it!!

You revealed that there are Bio-Labs in Ohio - Just what Putin needed to give the Russian Orcs exactly the caucus belli & excuse they needed to invade ...  OHIO!!!  

Bigger_Hammer


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Of course there are "bio labs" in Ukraine. Every country has them for medical research (Ohio has them too!) or for defensive purposes BUT these are not labs mass producing plagues and biological warfare agents,  etc. The biolabs are also used for agricultural purposes against blight and other dangers to crops since Ukraine is one of the largest agricultural exporters in the world.

This disinformation has been used as the excuse for Putin the " cHriSTIan sAVIOR fIghT'eN dA GloBALiSTs fEr aLL ''MerICaNs" to bomb Ukraine and InfoWarriors from Alexi Joneskov's fan club have been cheering him on along with Tucker's admirers. Here is the "great source" of info on this that YOU agree with: :

https://i.ibb.co/x6BzFkW/456-BA842-A796-4-BA3-BCDF-520441-FA8-C22-jpe-2303882-jpeg.jpg

Funny how all the "CIA bio labs" are in countries Putin is trying to control and take over.



Now you'd done it!!

You revealed that there are Bio-Labs in Ohio - Just what Putin needed to give the Russian Orcs exactly the caucus belli & excuse they needed to invade ...  OHIO!!!  

Bigger_Hammer




LOL!
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#iwishamotherfuckerwould
#mybodyisready

I've got a 5 ton military truck for hauling and plenty of parking space for captured Russian armor and vehicles.

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Of course there are "bio labs" in Ukraine. Every country has them for medical research (Ohio has them too!) or for defensive purposes BUT these are not labs mass producing plagues and biological warfare agents,  etc. The biolabs are also used for agricultural purposes against blight and other dangers to crops since Ukraine is one of the largest agricultural exporters in the world.

This disinformation has been used as the excuse for Putin the " cHriSTIan sAVIOR fIghT'eN dA GloBALiSTs fEr aLL ''MerICaNs" to bomb Ukraine and InfoWarriors from Alexi Joneskov's fan club have been cheering him on along with Tucker's admirers. Here is the "great source" of info on this that YOU agree with: :

https://i.ibb.co/x6BzFkW/456-BA842-A796-4-BA3-BCDF-520441-FA8-C22-jpe-2303882-jpeg.jpg

Funny how all the "CIA bio labs" are in countries Putin is trying to control and take over.



Now you'd done it!!

You revealed that there are Bio-Labs in Ohio - Just what Putin needed to give the Russian Orcs exactly the caucus belli & excuse they needed to invade ...  OHIO!!!  

Bigger_Hammer



#iwishamotherfuckerwould
#mybodyisready

I've got a 5 ton military truck for hauling and plenty of parking space for captured Russian armor and vehicles.



What beer should we bring for Red Dawn? LOL!
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